Why You Shouldn't Trust Grading Companies - BGS Beckett Grading Services
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New series where we look at the sketchy things done by trading card grading companies. Should you trust them? Should you use their services? In this episode we take a look at BGS Beckett Grading Services and their obvious preferential grading for Joe Clemons. This is sports related but could easily happen in Pokemon where the value of cards is increasing.
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I been grading cards with BGS for the past 4 or so years, and I go thru a LCS submitter. the LCS I go thru was sending in thousands of cards per month before BGS closed down most of their services, and whenever they get cards back from any graders, they would always do a "reveal" video. In the past 4 or so years, I have probably seen 4 BGS 10s in all the reveal videos(and no the 4 BGS 10s were not my cards). I have yet to see one single BGS black label from all the submissions sent thru my LCS(again, they send in thousands of cards per month). So for that guy Joe Clemons to get that many BGS 10s and Black Labels, there is def something sketchy going on with him and BGS.
Sent in 66 cards. Received 2 Black Labels. Only 3 Golden 10’s…I love their slab design, but the cards I sent were PRISTINE!
I have always thought the grading companies should have two or three inspectors grade a card and must get 2 of the 3 same grades to make an official grade.
It's an interesting idea but would significantly drive up costs and grading time.
Because a. the grading companies only REALLY care about money, they aren't going to change for that. b. most people sending cards for grade are only looking to flip so they want the cheapest and fastest returns possible
Both are screwing over true collectors who are the minority in the hobby.
I thought all of them had two. One to give it the grade and another to agree before it is pit into the slab.
@@chrisrobinson4595 me too
Hate to break it to you, but they actually already do this. Not only that, if it's an extremely expensive card they'll have a small team of graders examine it. Not just 2 or 3.
I was a huge baseball collector as a young kid. I never did like the idea of sending off my cards to a third party. Why should I trust grading companies was my thought then and still now to this day. Please condsider the fact that they may ALL truly be real black labels stolen from customers and placed off to the side and replaced with weaker cards. Since this hobby has changed so much I almost sent off some of my best card to be graded but I still have no faith in this process.
*"Please condsider the fact that they may ALL truly be real black labels stolen from customers and placed off to the side and replaced with weaker cards"*
I'm sorry, but you're just an idiot if you seriously think grading companies like PSA or BGS would do something like that. Do you have any idea how fast they would get caught? Do you really think people wouldn't notice that the card they got back wasn't the same one they submitted? Do you think people don't take detailed photos of their really expensive cards for insurance purposes before sending them out to be graded? They would get caught almost immediately and it would completely destroy their reputation beyond any hope of repair. What motive could they possibly have that would be worth taking a risk like that? It makes no sense whatsoever.
@@uthmanibn-jafar1159 you're obviously ignorant to something called 'corruption'... it's definitely plausible that someone in the grading card business would do something like that ...not a grand conspiracy, but individual temptation and corruption...or you can believe that everything is pure and honest... which would make you a sucker... give them your money, you sucker, you
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind You're obviously ignorant to how the grading process actually works. All submissions are anonymous to the people grading, they're just assigned an ID number. So they have no way of knowing whose cards they're grading. Do yourself a favor and stop commenting on things you know absolutely nothing about, and while you're at it go take some remedial English courses so you can learn how to write properly.
@@uthmanibn-jafar1159 and you're completely naive to suggest its never happened
Agreed, this is important information that all collectors and investors should know about. Crazy how they are not regulated, and not required to undergo any type of investigation for this kind of stuff especially since it affects so many other people in the hobby. Can't wait to see the information on other grading companies. 👍
Important to know and hold them accountable. More shady things happen when large amounts of money are involved.
This is great content! Can't wait for this series to continue. I've been looking for in depth reviews and data on ratings and this really help. Keep up the great work!
Thanks
A friend of mine recently submitted a single high value card at a large convention at the BGS booth. The card viewed under a variety of magnification and lighting environments was pretty much perfect. Even better in comparison to an already graded card on hand (10,10,9.5,9.5). Anyhow the card returned 3x9.5 and 9 on corners, which is just insainty. Not even a true gem was awarded. Anyhow my belief is that on a single submission they won't hand out elite grades to a joe schmo, those are reserved for ppl with stature.
Grats on 9k man. Amazing growth that’s awesome. Just got this recommended for me so watched it through. Great video and I feel the same way. It sucks but it is actually obvious that grading companies just do it for the money. you can get multiple cards of different grades and you can always find a 9 that is cleaner and better centered then a 9.5 or 10. But how does it happen, besides the fact that there is no set standards to determine a grade and it’s just a “guess” by a “grader”. They hold no responsibility to consistency or accuracy.
Good comment! But I mean, of course they do it for the money, because they are a business. And businesses want to make money. I don't really see a huge issue with cards in slightly worse quality get the same or even a higher grade in some cases. I think in modern times there are better and more reliable ways to prevent this kind of "human error" and - as you said - there should be a clearer grading guideline as to what aspects lead to which grade, but it is what it is. Every business has its flaws that could be prevented. For example, the Pokémon company had abysmal print quality in most of their 2021 products. Some cards came in "heavy played" condition straight out of the pack. I pulled a Alternate Art Tyranitar V from Battle Styles and it looks worse than some of my childhood Base set cards. Mistakes can and will happen everywhere.
It really becomes an issue though when it's not human erroranymore, but knowingly giving away high grades for cards that don't deserve them. Because that hurts every collector in the hobby as it devalues the credibility of the company and therefore their grading.
I always feared that they would trade cards. For example, if I were a grader and I had a base set charizard in what I’d consider to a 7 can be swapped for somebody who sent in a 10 and there is no way to tell.
New fear unlocked
I read a post in a forum recently, and the poster said that they’d submitted ~$25,000 worth of originals (that they’d pulled from packs) to PSA. I think they said 13 cards total. They said all of them came back as UNABLE TO GRADE as they were not authentic. The guy who posted the story said that he’d taken pictures and scans of each of his cards before he sent them, and after comparing the pictures and the scans to the cards he got back, 11 of them were not the cards he originally sent. He said he had already retained an attorney, but considering it was his word against theirs, he was afraid not much would go in his favor. His post was just to warn anyone reading, and let me tell you it absolutely terrified me. I can’t imagine holding onto something for your entire life and then the one time you let it out of your site, it’s to be authenticated by the top company in their respective field, but said company “allegedly” swaps your real cards worth $$$$$ with fakes.
I actually believe this happened.
@@nezbola link to the post plz or let us know where we can find it
Thank you for sharing all of this information. I have never been a real big fan of "graded" cards and the grading companies that overcharge just to put a label and seal your card in plastic. There is literally no standard or 3rd party inspections to check on these grading companies. It is literally impossible most of the time to tell the difference between most 9, 9.5, 10s and 10 black labels. Until robo grading picks up, there will always be the subjectivity of employees of these companies to favor some over others. I understand the chase of getting the highest grade of a certain card, but when purchasing something, customers should buy the card first and then the label second. Too many are willing to pay too much just for the label, even when the card inside the case is a common/easier to come by card.
Rattle! Thanks for always being real buddie. Love your content. I recently submitted my childhood 1st ed Chizy was expecting a 5, would have been blown away by a 7, ended up grading an 8. Hard to be upset but clearly not an 8. Like not even close.
After watching Pokerev's Beckett grading, I would never use Beckett. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing. I highly doubt their Black Labels mean anything.
Ah yes....Eagle Eye Joe i remember that thread very well. It was comical to read his response trying to defend himself saying he just has a real good eye for picking out good cards to grade. The best eye in the world i suppose...thus how he got the nickname Eagle Eye Joe. A couple more pieces of information is that he used to work for Beckett. He says he wasn't a grader himself but "still has friends there". Also interestingly the owner of Beckett parent company Greg Lindberg is currently in prison for wire fraud and trying to bribe a judge in NC.
Love your videos. Can you please do one about AGS robo grading please. I have been sending my cards with them and I like the fact that no human emotion will interfere with the grade.
Mind you I'm a fan of TCAGaming and I'm not even not 100% sure if it was a favor or not, but this reminds me of how TCA submitted those recent metal Pokemon cards to PSA and apparently they sent them back due saying they will not grade metal cards anymore. Well TCA makes a video about specifically about PSA not grading his metal cards (which was clearly a video made *to* PSA and less his audience knowing they watch his videos) basically saying why they should be accepted them etc etc. Then a few videos later he's opening his PSA returns and he has a bunch of metal cards that were graded, and now those cards are worth thousands. So did PSA just let it "slide" for TCA and grade them anyways?
I'm pretty sure he sent in a couple of batches of the metal cards, the initial wave of them got slabbed and sent back out alongside other collectors but then there were reports of damage to the cards in the slabs (I think like paint chipping off the metal when it bumps against the sides of the case? Cant remember exact reason ) So because of this they said they were postponing the further grading of them. Probably his first batch got returned because it had already gone through the grading process
I appreciate the video, I hope you do not fall prey to bribery or some sort of strike because of this video causing it to be taken down. It is a great video for seasoned or new collectors.
You can't bribe me.
This is why once ags was announced I have been preaching an ai system helps eliminate human error and bias.
I agree however company like hga that uses AI to grade for those reasons have graded and authenticated fake cards and fake autographed cards. I think a mix of both human and AI would be best
You made a lot of good points in this video. The greed and questionable aspects in card grading, especially the past couple years, has really started to turn me off lately. I do like the PSA 10s I own and I feel they deserve the grade assigned, but on some cards I'm no longer paying the massive premium that it can carry unless I REALLY want it. I've actually been going more for PSA 8s to just have a regular NM copy that I can keep slabbed or decide to crack into a binder as they are in my experience actually NM compared to what most "NM" cards are on eBay as sellers exaggerate condition at times or hide damage in pics. Also in Pokemon people hate BGS and I find it funny that you can get a BGS 9.5 for the same price as PSA 9 or less at times. I also love collecting these because they are often 1/4 or 1/5 the price of a PSA 10, lol. The whole thing just feels like a big psychological mess at times. It's like you see the 10 on the label, but it's never actually a subjectively perfect card. Harder and harder to want to drop the big money on it.
Can someone hire this man and pay him what he deserves he did the job of how many "professionals" better than they did from behind his computer.. for free...
Great video man! Totally agree with you. Sucks so much that this is the case. Sadly it’ll probably never change either
I only just got into collecting after not playing or buying pokemon for over 10 years and it’s so fun but my main issue is this, the grading. I actually like the way cards look in just sleeves or toploaders tbh and unless there’s a definitive guideline for what makes a card a 9 or 10 I just can’t buy into it, quite literally when you consider the prices
That's exactly me too! Just got back into collecting. I think it would actually bother me if my cards got different grades; it doesn't feel like its the same collection anymore.
Yea friends of me had cards graded and got the wrong cards back (they made picturs before and you could cleary see it , wear being where there was none and wear magically disapearing). Now before you think it is a scam , in some cases the cards they got back where in better condition then what they had sent in. So i is simply chaos and mismanagement.
I have also seen examples of them claiming the wrong edition of a card, not just confusing revised and unlimited, but even connfusing 4th and unlimited etc. Cards getting the wrong label and sooo many other things
I sent in a 1st Edition Base Set Charizard to BGS a while ago. Recently got it back with a grade of GI Joe.
Well, at least these slabs make for good coasters. I really dislike watermark rings left by sweating beverages.
Not saying you should never grade or buy graded cards but these are important things to keep in mind to make more informed purchases.
0:55 greta cawrd…tth;
I was rewinding to this point several times so I timestamped for my own future reference and anyone else who appreciates your cawrds more after listening to Rattle
Is leaf a printing company? Maybe he's getting perfect cut sheets? From the printing company? Only way to get those many black labels is to get absolute perfect print runs. Wich are rare on their own. But ya just paying off bgs would be alot easier
I find that, for some reason, questioning very clearly sketchy situations occurring in the hobby feels taboo. Even suggesting the Logan Paul BGS regrade was sus on E4 seemed to really make some people angry. It's weird how quick some are to dismiss the idea that some foul play *could* have happened, or they just explain it away as something that's not really a big deal. I'm glad you're speaking up!! Keep that good detective work coming lol
The thing is, that was a really shady situation. Beckett had previously denied the 10 for Gary but Logan was given the 10.
@@justinbuck1957 It's definitely very sus
Just found your videos from Randolph, love the style!
I have a Beckett 9 Coro coro shining mew. in the pictures it looked great, but after receiving the slab and examined it I believe I would be lucky to get a PSA 8! I predict PSA 7 at best.
Another guy named Gengar gang with gengar profile pic or Genji or something like that on Instagram has a new blacklabel every week. BGS is doing favors to lot of high follower count graders on socials. its free marketing for them and they don't mind charging them up the butt for it either. When I called them out in pokemon and dragonball communities they exiled me. Shortly after I deleted my socials because social media is cancer and these people are cancerous who display them and entice others to start grading or ask them to grade for them its CON101 . Save your money, collect raw cards or buy graded don't submit to 3rd party or LCS stores because they would swap your card with lesser version if they suspect that yours will net a blacklabel. This is what I feel like these scammers are doing.
We are living in the junk slab era.
When it's just an opinion no laws apply unfortunately if they just suck at their job. If they can prove money was changing hands a RICO case might be in order
Great video. Nat Turner keep saying that there is no preferential treatment at PSA and that all submitter names remain anonymous. Then how does Steve Aoki submit a 1986 Fleer Jordan and get a PSA 10 with ’The Aoki Collection’ on the label? The card was in the December Goldin auction.
Solid question. Maybe they don’t slab with the imprint until after they’ve graded it and they’ve then figured out who the owner is. Just guessing
this is actual instanity. these companies are blindly trusted with their grading and they just abuse the power that they have... i mean it all makes sense but its still always sad to hear about stuff like this. makes me not want to send anything into any grading company
You should start a grading service, people would trust you 100% especially after everything has came out. People can see your a genuine trustworthy dude that wouldn’t take pay offs as that has already been proven
with hundreds of submissions to BGS, I have never received a black label, the highest was one gold label 10,
They are so harsh. Why? Should I go for PSA instead?
@@Clovud you shouldn’t grade with either to be honest
@@YOUNGINflyy why
@@Clovud because they are using people to grade your cards. Just think about it there are multiple people that work at these companies that grade differently. Do they all have 20/20 vision ? They show no report on why they give the grades they do. Why don’t they give a report ? Because it will kill the scam to put money in there pockets because you can’t just hand out a black label or psa 10 with a AI scan showing a detail report of a card
@@YOUNGINflyy they’re all like that
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My 1st ed Shining Charizard got a PSA 9, and it looks better than some of the 10's I've seen out there. I've thought about having it cracked and graded again, but the cost is far too high. It was $500 to get graded the first time :(
I have resubmitted the same card four times until it moved from a 9 to a 9.5. The separate underlying grades, even centering, changed each time.
where is the hoodie from!
This is why AGS- automatic grading system is the future. Robots don’t get tired or lazy and are unbiased
I do believe BGS gatekeep people from getting Black Labels on purpose. Yet, I've seen someone get multiple BLs in one order. Honestly, if BGS wanted to give publicity to Logan Paul, they would of just gave him in the 1st edition Zard Black Label.
That would have been even worse and more obvious. No reason to do that when they can just bump it up to be tied for the highest grade.
Thanks for this vid. I really really wanted to send in a card or two to see if I could get the black label but now?...
I know this isn’t directly related to this video but it’s semi related, has anyone personally tried that grading company adrive owns part of? And if so how good a job do you think they do? I doubt I’ll use it just cause it seems so small and that seems so risky to me but I’m just curious
I have a video on the current state of grading, the countless grading companies that popped up and why it is usually a bad idea to grade at the moment.
That's why I paid less than 20 a card to have some graded. Love the look of BGS and going to look great in my open coffin. I don't sell cards, I buy them.
I agree with this video & all the issues raised in it. People live in a fallen world & all are corruptible.
PSA is cool but it's not near as classy as Beckett.. Beckett grades less cards but they are what Big time traders and PC guys love the most especially for baseball and foot ball .
BGS grades best on thick cards and corners hands down.
Black label tens are so loved. Much more than PSA.
These guys are all working for PSA in some way probably.
Or they are just use to PSA.
PSA takes for ever to get cards back.
PSA has many pros and cons
Card protection is an issue for PSA.
Cards move around too much in PSA slabs and get damaged all the time in transport.
PSA needs stronger slabs.
This is super interesting and raises a the eyebrows. But, this info is from 2019? Although not super long ago the info is a bit dated. I'd definitely like to see some more concrete evidence from the last year or so. Then a strong case can be made to discredited BGS
It was the same company in 2019. Just because they don't do anything sketchy for a couple years or another article hasn't popped up doesn't mean they changed anything or haven't continued. I'm sure there is tons of unethical practices that happen without being caught. This is an extreme enough example that it could be exposed. The Logan zard crossover is a similar situation where favours were likely involved but harder to prove with one card.
I just get happier and happier for every video I watch that I get bad feelings every time I've considered grading my cards. Those replica slabs you buy on ebay seems more and more attractive, because the slabs look really great though.
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Which grading company is the best in your opinion? Looking forward to your reply. Thanks
Oh and he did make a video on it and talked about it on his pod cast.
I recently sent in PSA 10 to Beckett to re-grade and I swear they sent me a different card than what I sent in. The pics I have the corners don’t look the same from the PSA I submitted. I received a 9.5 but wonder if they just sent me the 9.5 🤔. How do you really know they actually cracked your slab?
Which grading company should I trust? If I want to grade my cards?
Hey I know I'm late to the party but yeah why are bgs 10s worth so much more than psa? For example, I was recently offered the same pokemon card in psa 10 for $28 or the bgs 9.5 for $60. I bought the psa one lol.
Heck, does this mean I shouldn't get my VSTAR Universe God Pack set graded? ;-; I wanna preserve them, and I felt grading would be the best way, but now I'm not sure
Thanks for doing this for us brother 👍👍👍
so long as the industry is using the human eye alone to grade tolerances it is bound to fail. Whomever achieves the ability to grade with minimal human oversight of grading will win in the end. Expanding services to streamlined on-site servicing while selling additional supplies would create more growth but it seems they are too stuck in their old ways and will eventually fade away like the typerwriter and its' once dominate position turned to dust.
Question, did anyone not expect this to happen? There's to much incentive for someone on the inside or the third party company themselves to not manipulate the grading scales. Getting stuff graded is retarded unless it's not done by human hands. Subjective grading completely ruins any monetary value that doing something like that has in the first place. Trading cards, games, books, ect, all of it completely useless to get graded. People are way over paying for a stupid service. It's almost as bad as the money laundering that goes on in the art world if not that exactly. You can't nor should you even trust someone outside the company to regulate their grading scale. To many insider shaking hands as proven in the past.
You don't really have to put that much thought into it. Any grading company that charges you more to grade the card if it is worth more, well , that's CLEARLY a conflict of interest, don't use that company, period. I use KSA , in Canada. They're only about 1 hour from my house and you can walk right in there and talk to the owner/grader. It's a flat rate per card , no matter the value and you can save on the currency exchange if you live in the States. He's really honest and a good guy. They've gone to more of a bulk format but that's ok, I'll just wait until I have at least 10 cards to grade, 20 cards for even more savings. MNT is also great.
Thoughts on the newer grading companies, AGS, which uses AI (“unbiased”)?
yea especially with all these smaller companies popping up like HGA...they are doing breaks on IG too...kinda sus to have a grading company doing breaks. A third party regulator should be established or these grading companies need to have more transparency on how they got to the grade they did.. IE AI reporting with heatmaps of cards etc. If they don't get to this point the investing side will die off quick as trust will evaporate.
I'm old school never once gotten any cards graded or bought a graded card never graded my cards back in the 90s why do it now because it's money maker? Nah not my thing awsone video man
It protects the cards and provides a scale that other collectors can trust and it takes liability away from the seller. Selling a raw mint card versus a graded psa 9 card the person selling the raw card could run into a LOT more problems from someone buying it who will say it is not mint. Regardless if you agree with the grade PSA lr BGS gives, that grade alone will hold the value of the card and will sell based off that. Ive seen some awful 9s
Great video! Thanks
Is it possible he is working with someone with Leaf making sure cards are cut perfect ?
I sent something to Beckett that Beckett had already graded, and they failed it. It proves that their services are flawed. The best thing to do is study the autograph and compare it with others.
Beckett loves giving you the Gem Mint 9.5, I’ve been given a handful of 10’s and 2 Black Labels. I guess .8% is about right
Grading companies are jokes I really think AI is the future as long as they have it on a realistic setting
After the BBCE situation you gotta do a vid on PSA
? What happened at BBCE
I handle hundreds of cards. I rarely find a "perfect" card., Even with Japanese Pokemon cards. I recently submitted some cards to bgs that I think should get 10s. Not expecting black labels but I am expecting 10s.
Sometimes you can get a modern 8 and get it less than raw
Good job on putting this info out there. Grading is completely non sensical (not even gonna go into the argument of old grades pre 2010 vs new grades). Also not to mention the stupid shill bidding and the deliberate pop control. Evolutions charizard holo 11/108 has a psa 9 population of over 10000. And yet they seem to consistently go for more than $100 on ebay lol
Evolutions has been in a weird spot with all the new people entering the hobby. Going from so much printed that people no longer wanted it in their mixed pack products to crazy demand. It shouldn't be nearly as valuable as it is currently and that will become evident when things cool off.
Rattle, you 100% correct with the Logan P. Zard upgrade. It was done for free advertisements, and publicity!! Look how much the price jumped with that BGS 10 label now.
There isn't a real price on a BGS 10 1st ed zard since the only owners, Gary and Logan, are both extremely unlikely to sell.
@@RattlePokemon yes, and I totally understand that... however just having the BGS black 10 will without a doubt drastically jump the value of the card
I thought this was sort of fishy too until I realized/watched the video of him explaining that he cracked it out first and then sent it to bgs, thats a huge difference. When somebody is cross grating they are putting the company's name on the line saying that that is a 10 and if it isn't they are responsible for that psa 10 if they crack it and ruin it or missed something, so the grader is going to be extremely careful when upgrading to a 10, but when it is a fresh grade it is much less pressure and they also have a better look/feel for the card in its raw form.
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How do you feel about machines grading 100% of the card. Essentially all grading companies would cease to exist seeing how, as it stands, grading is opinion of a person(s).
Before answering, I want to point out a few pro's
- The cost would be a fraction per card
- Cards wouldn't be judged based of price
- Cards would be consistent grading unbiased by A.I
- Return times would be irrelevant
There ARE negatives but im curious on what others opinions are
I'd have to see the entire process to have a real opinion on it. Typically A.I. ends up being used as more of a buzz word rather than an accurate description of the process. Initial cost to start up, process development and for maintenance would be much higher. Just because it is being graded by a computer doesn't mean there won't be mistakes made, damage done to the card, etc... The process would not be perfect even though people like to blindly believe it.
@@RattlePokemon not right away, but grading centering and scratches would be almost 0 bias. I am sure some cracks would slip through but its got to be 1/1000 of human errors. Furthermore, I feel like the errors would be a card getting judged more harsh than slipping through the cracks and getting a higher grade it doesnt deserve.
What I mean to say is, if you see a Ai 10, it would surely and truly probably be an actual 10. I think the issue would more be 10's that are arguably nothing visibly to the human eye being graded under 10, correct me if my assumption is wrong here?
I think the many people are concerned that their 10's are not actual 10's, especially when comparing old labels. There are so many documented videos of this, so having consistency i think is a better trade-off.
Also, to respond to the maintenance aspect, lasers need very little upkeep and cameras too, I think the machinery and movement of the arms and lubrication and power would be more the expense. If you used a system like a vending machine style grading machine, I cant see why you couldn't skip a lot of the issues of positioning issues.
The company that PSA merged with a year ago was just made the companies president. So Genamint has already automated a lot of these without telling the public. They say its still humans, but every card is still scanned before the grading itself. They obviously still grade using humans or the popular cards wouldn't be getting lower than average grades consistently over 10x-20x more than holos from the same set.
What if graders are switching black label potential cards sent in by customers with mint copies of that card that they already own?
Well.... CGC records the grading process along the way, so....
How much is a walk in service for one card?
depends on what grading you want, and return time for grading the card and 1 grade or sub grade pricing, if you want it back in a week or so, few hundred dollars for just 1 card, 60 day waiting, which is 60 business days, not weekends counted, way, way, less
Jay Z and Blakrock are destroying it right now. They are literally just spinning a wheel for scores at this point
I don't need a grading company to tell me what condition my card is in.
man the content is just getting more hot
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Great info👍
Glad you think so!
Probstein123 got me a couple times in a string of a month Of orders. Still owes me about 4500 for over a year. Wouldn’t send big cards that I got a decent deal in auction and beat out his shill bidders. Sent me 33/34 cards and claimed they were all there. Claimed I still owed on an order which I provided many times receipt of payment then blamed eBay and sent order even after tried canceling multiple times only to have eBay screw up my refund after returning order. Beware!
Detective yotubachu! Sick video
i would trust you with grading pokemon cards :D you need to make your grading card company for pokemon.
This guy is so legit I would totally pay to use his services. It's sorely needed in the pokemon card collecting community
So I think Logan paul is doing the same thing with BGS , the grade 10 charizard on his neck looks either fake or a paid grade , logan Paul is shady and pretending to really be into Pokémon , I can tell he clout chasing the hobby for the young audience, his drink is watered down Gatorade 🤣🤣
Great stuff!! Keep it u0
Thank you
If you know Joel Clemens you will get a black label 10 beckett.
Sending cards to a grading company is for morons. It became a thing for key vintage cards so dealers wouldn't have to worry about arguments over authenticity and lowballers saying the grade was lower than it was.
Basically every company is shady?
To convenient lol for that 1st edition zard. 🤣.
Early release grading that's bull.
Paying for someone's opinion on your card, playing God with its value, is something I will never understand.
You do that yourself if you list a raw card on eBay "wow, super clean mint copy omg PSA69"
@@flvbbernvggets Yea, I dont do that lol.
Good video
Friends don't let friends get 9s lol
Sounds like a lawsuit to me???
I don't trust any of them. With the exception of a black label 10 the grades are usually subjective to who ever is grading your card.
Maybe bring a previous grader, he knows what a black label looks like and only sends those in?
Doesn't matter how good someone's eye is or how much the cherry pick mass amounts of cards, they won't get black labels at that rate.
@@RattlePokemon but what if they only send in what they know to be a black label as...
The people who give out the black labels don't even know the requirements for the labels they give out. There is no amount of cards someone could go through to attain black labels at this rate. Go look at the forum shown in the video and ask any of the experts on there.
Grading companies should be regulated and audited by a single regulating body who ensure that they are not only grading to an appropriate grading table but also that there grading centers are appropriately secure, clean and the graders are certified.
The problem with that is none of the bigger graders will accept this new rugulating body and noone with trust the regulating body because, after all, who regulates the regulators?
Funko Pop will be the next Fraud somewhere.
Something stinks in Denmark
What's that?
@@RattlePokemon Idiom for something is suspicious, or something like that. From Hamlet I think?
Ah, "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" and yes from Hamlet but I had no idea. Don't see many Shakespeare references in UA-cam comments. Lol
You should look into Revolution Card Grading - RCG
ISA is my new go to. Seems very honest and legit. Hopefully their cards will fill the market as truthful grades. Definitely not a perfect science. BGS was my go to, but this Joe guy soured me. Shameful.