I got ganked trying to get DMF about a month ago but showed up with every other buff and consume. My guild leader asks me why I didn't have DMF and I told him what happened, and I didn't have time to try again before the raid. He then sent me a paragraph about how I need to be more prepared ect... Haven't logged into SoD since.
It's so crazy people are still like that for freaking SoD, hell, even Classic Era doesn't need WB, but people just want big numbers. It's one of the main reasons I didnt play SoD or Era, because people go insane for world buffs.
I see you and the rest of the replies are fools or something. Maybe get an item called a chronoboon? It costs 20s at a reagent vendor. It is also nothing new.... Its been around for years at this point. Instead of blaming a guild YOU decided to join, maybe play the game like you have a brain
I'm glad that you pointed out that it is the Purist Classic Andy's that is holding SoD and classic+ back and not the devs. Because holy F they hate change
@@messaroundhandleit are you dumb? they don't wanna change it because the dumb ass classic andys make them money, there would be a flat out money hit if they went full fledged in that direction.
Wasn't it obvious from P1 that the devs will not create something ground breaking new? I was disappointed by the "new raid" when I saw it's BFD with some new mechanics. Just enough to get the hopium for a Classic+ up. It's not the fault of era players that the product is suboptimal.
Always love you, Savvix. Big hugs. I agree. I was just sick and tired of everyone looking the same with these Jabroni gear. And it was repetitive and of course way too many classic andys in there wanting to keep it so close to classic. I was like then go Era or Hardcore. This is Season of Discovery, I wanted to DISCOVER new things. New playstyles for classes, quest lines, maybe even unlock an even faster mount speed. You know quality of life things.. I said it from day one of SoD it needed Transmog. A very loooooong questline to unlock them. We'd all do them for sure.. I had fun unlocking all the runes with those new questlines. It was something different; a new experience. But after awhile it just still felt too close to classic and I got burnt out. Played retail for 19 years and then SoD for awhile. Im burnt out entirely. Used to run high mythic + keys and even that was a burn out. Always catch up with you from time to time. Got mad love for you. I stay following up on what you have going on. Be easy bro, 😊
@@AJD-od9nq Yea, but it's not classic though. You had Classic back then that went on to Bc then wrath and now cata live. Then Era came out, and so did Hardcore. That's three times PLUS the original vanilla which equates to four times having that armor on live servers. Let's not mention classic private servers that went on for awhile too So Season of Discovery has potential to be something else entirely. If I earned that tier set, I should keep the look if I want it. And not look like a Power Ranger when Zul Gurub comes out. Bleh lol Recoloring could be something, but I still think transmogs should be a thing. No flying mounts either for Discovery but can we Discover at a looooong quest line to unlock an even faster mount than the 60 mount. Like having the flying speed but on your ground mount instead.
@@anthonyvelez8002 but it is classic. No matter what anyone says IT IS CLASSIC. Its a seasonal edition of classic with changes. Now I'm not going to sit here and defend all the changes or anything but people that played SoD thinking its not classic is fundamentally mistaken. The core foundation of the game was always classic. This also doesn't mean that there isn't room to think about even further changes like potentially a transmog system but it is still classic.
The classic team just don’t understand why people like classic. All they have done is focus on making harder raid content rather than building on the world and the journey. Imagine if they gave us all the new skills but also made more quest areas full of elites so you still had to group.
kinda feel the same. SoD was fun at the beginning but it had the same issues as classic for me. People treat it like the hardest game ever when it comes to finding groups for raids...its insane. Getting logs and having to do an interview like application process just to raid MC is just a huge timewaste.
I like the way turtle wow does classic+ , one of my fav parts about the server is world buffs are disabled in raids! Cannot use them, only helps leveling and dungeons etc..
I'm full BiS Gear, almost all Rep exalted tryhard warrior in SoD and quit end of P5 cause I can't deal with the World Buffs anymore after classic, classic era and now SoD. It's just a absolute timewaste feeling.
can you explain to me how retail is fun? i am not trying to pick a fight i am asking because i played it for 2 weeks and its the same shit as dragonflight its the worlds most expensive shitty single player rpg out there
For world buffs: I think it wouldn’t be bad if we reduce the amount and let guards give you the buff if you missed the drop.. since all world buffs are local events the city guards can “fill you in” on what you missed
I've pretty much quit sod as well. But i told my irl mate this with the coins you get from dungeons you should be able to spend them on buying the scroll that gives full WBs. and with Blizz still adding more dungeons in sod it gives people more insentive to go farm coins to get WBs.
My guild in SoD kicked me out cause they thought I was annoying and wasn’t a good player cause everyone was parsing higher than me. I told them they deliberately never use fire res aura or anything else for me to parse or allow me to get loot and feed it to all hunters. Needless to say I’m glad I quit SoD, it’s too damn toxic and blizzard takes too long to give new stuff. Would be sick if they gave everything at launch and just added their own expansion (turtle wow essentially) but alas they didn’t
This is a huge hit to SOD, losing Savix. yeah man I feel like a lot of the classic era players are holding SOD back. They are so scared of change it’s just making things weird in SOD. I will say this bro, BWL is wayyy better than MC. But yeah I really hate SOM MC. You did your part Savix, you brought so many players to SOD and I think most people don’t even realize that. Cheers dude. Thanks for helping as much as you did in this project.
That is a perfect solution to world buffs do a quest chain get a scroll. I already did full world buffs on classic era and want nothign to do with world buffs in sod unless we can get them instantly and i was alliance at that and had to do mind controls even made a priest for it but man i hated when it backfired 💀💀Tbh that might bring back a decent amount of players if they added that
Nah I said sod was disappointing I never said classic sucks. Classic wow is fun in its own ways, I’m simply stating if ppl don’t want changes go play fking era or hardcore. It’s not rocket science 👍
Why not. It is classic. Its built on the foundation of classic. Its on the same client as classic. It is quite frankly just classic with changes, all be it a lot of changes with a lot of them good and bad and very subjective but it is still at its core classic.
Good sod sucked. I barely wanted to log on for mc, and was only logging on for my guild. At some point I just had enough and told 1 person and quit disc, uninstalled the game, and never looked back.
MC such an easy raid to add cool things to as well it's basically one giant template of a raid, so much unused space. Such a shame they didn't try to get freaky wit it
You don't have to play every raid lockout, let the sod team try out different mechanics for raids, they obviously won't hit every time, I'm sure they've learned lessons(having a resistance requirement). Keep providing this kind of feedback! Enjoy Savix
@@Kim-tr5op it's been said from the beginning that SoD is experimental. It's success or lack thereof determines its future so feedback is necessary. If they don't do a Classic+ then it is what it is
everyone loved SOD because the first few phases were actually new and really refreshing, even if there was some Ls, at least it was new content. I didnt even bother with level 60 phases because its literally just vanilla raids with barely anything new, which is the whole point of why people want classic+, people love vanilla but are tired of doing the same raids they did million times already.
Funny some clown on our server made his whole stream about camping the flower around ally fp flower in felwood. I forget his name something with an ''A'' horde lock.
idk mate, if you want hard mechs you can just play retail too... Works both ways with that state of mind ! To me sod is kinda in between, it's kinda fun and not too hard. Still pretty hard if you care about logs and compete against your own class. Depends on what you like doing. Trying to play as perfect as possible for a moderately hard encounter then you'll enjoy sod. If you wanna play weakaura simulator just play retail idk... Classic andys sure like to gatekeep but it's also to maintain the spirit of classic, without the uproar of classic boys speaking against retail imported systems like incursions you can be sure there would have been more of this shit in later phases. I just think you like retail right now and it's okay. Just don't shit on SoD cause you playing something fresh on retail that for once doesn't suck ass straight away.
"i like that everyone wore the same stuff it made items recognizable and cool" *a few years pass after classic release* "i hate that everyone looks the same i want transmog" wow players dont know what they fcking want and they never have why do you think the game is so garbage all the time "this is what i want!!" *gets it* "this sucks!! the other thing was WAAAAY better!!!"
@@deliciousfirstsip glaze more classic andy's got what they wanted and now its not good enough anymore and suddenly they dont want it they miss the feature that people have complained about for the last 14 years
the problem with classic andies is that truly deep down they dont want classic they want something else but cant vocalize it. classic + will be an epic fail but a niche community will hold onto it and protect it till it burns. If you are currently not enjoying era or retail, maybe wow just isnt the game for you. this is the problem with the wow community they wont give up even though they hate the gameplay in what ever iteration they play
Yep I never even made it to 60, SOD was a terrible experience from the very start, the reason so many of us stuck by it was hope but that hope got smashed in P3. I was finally enjoying SOD but then they did the PVP nerf and said for the weekend to try out so I waited, the following monday I quit forever when I realized that was BS and they were sticking with it
You called it off? Bro, I'm still active in your dead ass hardcore guild Bricked up Brothers. Also, I haven't played retail much recently so what's that flappy feather thing on your paladin's right shoulder?
I got BIS gear on my warlock back in gnomer and havent touched sod since it just got boring having everyone be sweaty and toxic for lfr tier difficulty and boring ass pvp. I would rather play retail where they can actually improve the game without a bunch of 40 year old man children seething because they can't just press 1 button as their whole rotation.
3:39 They will do it because they know people will be mad. It's stupid to need tons of buffs to do content; it's just shit. The preparation to do PvE in classic is over the top. I think it's ... ok to camp since you're camping equally leveled and geared players. Ganking is what is cringe af; I ganked when I was 16 and nowadays it's like killing a low lvl mob.
Sod is a actually a joke in terms of difficulty, saying your a sod pro means literally nothing. That said, i wont say im not disappointed with MC either. Everything the Sod devs have given us has been garbo. BWL being unbeatable because of a bug on day 1 didnt help anything for phase 5 so far.
? Are you brain dead LMAOOO It’s new content and popping. Playing it would make me money but I’m simply choosing not to. I played it enough and gave it a fair chance imo.
just quit joining guilds like, that i joined one we just need rend, ony and song, thats all thats req. we made it thru BWL just fine, had only mongoose and elix or giants for my consumes. ez game, but when we push is like yea we gotta be decked but still, ain't no thang when we want more loot we gotta do just a tiny bit more prep to get 1-2 pieces of loots
The fuckin HELL NAW at the beginning lmao 6:06 This is what holds back the classic trilogy, basically, people flocked to old wow private servers because they liked the gameplay, not because they wanted to raid MC for 50 years, or ICC, or Black Temple... They preferred the gameplay back then compared to retail. They want wow to start from there and do it better than retail did.
"basically, people flocked to old wow private servers because they liked the gameplay" People flocked to old wow private servers because they're free. Private servers are like 80% poor East European players who'd rather buy 3 packs of cigarettes than pay for a game.
@@VDA19 Yes, definitely, the price was a reason for some. But I think classic's official releases showed there are a lot of people that actually prefer it. And they were mostly European because all the servers were European, as Blizzard would rarely hit those.
@@Ecliptor. Classic had 50% player loss halfway through WOTLK Classic and never got them back. It turns out these old expansions hipsters praised were pretty overrated.
@@Ecliptor. So are private servers? People played for years on the same Warmane server because they'd rather play the same 2 raid for free than pay 10$ for new content on Retail. They're just cheap.
pop a scroll lol, shiiiiit suggestion. Wbuffs brings interactions between players, good or bad, imo the best moments in mmos are not instanced content but content made from player interaction out in the world. yes camping DMF is lame, but DMF week brings life to the zones, that would otherwise just be a barren boring wasteland, cause everyone is afk in capitals or inside raids or bgs.
This is why actually interesting content needs to be added to the zones that gets people to leave the cities to go and do that content. The problem with WBs like DMF is that its not interesting content so people try to make it interesting by camping/griefing the buff and this causes problems because the players become the content and when it happens enough people quit the game over it. This has been the cycle of WBs for a long time now and it always causes a large group of people to quit classic and in the end only the true classic andy's stick around that actually like the WB content.
@@Savixirl yeah dude a lot of people like to log in crack a beer and fuck around no one really wants to sweat for pixels in a video game. it aint that deep we got jobs n shit to do
@@Savixirl i mean, sod is not the best and yhe most innovative thing i gotta give you that, but i enjoy the way classic plays out if i want to play complex games i rather play the souls series
Like honestly if you dont like Classic play retail or catha, When retailplayers say Classic players are holding classic back i think you are out on deeeeeep water. its ppl like you that are going to make blizzard fuck up Classic +. if there is even 1% of the changes from SoD in Classic+ its going to be unplayable. Classic is supost to be weird. the bis weapon for Druids are supost to be a lvl 30 weapon from a dungeon. the bis Gloves is supost to be a rare lvl 44 world drop. Classic+ should be Classic pluss some new dungeons, raids, mabye give paladin a taunt and help Boomkins not to go oom as fast. The new raid should have classic like bosses with classic like mecanics with classic like stats. if only retailstreamers could stop having an opinion about a game they dont relly like. you stay on your side and we stay on our. Retail and Classic is not the same game. Imagine a League Of Legend player having an opinion och what dota2 is supost to be like, and then they make changes to Dota to be more like Lol and then the dota players dont want to play anymore and then the lol streamer says that it is the dota player that is holding the game back... and noone enjoys playing it.
Ehm Season of Discovery is Classic+ or did you thought that there was like something bigger coming? Like hate it to break it to you but if you classic people all jump from SoD, they probably wont dive further into doing new stuff for classic because SoD was their try. If it failed in their eyes, thats it.
Just play classic era if you want it, don’t hold sod and classic plus back with your bs. Talking fondly about shit like crowd pummeler is fucking brain rot, that shit is so unbelievably ass.
If you like classic, stay playing classic era. Most people don't want to go raid molten core and press frost bolt reminiscing about when they used to be young.
You say that and all the content I see of you uploading is hardcore wow/csgo LMAOO at least I tried genuinely and gave a fair opinion on why I don’t like it. If you want to argue about me being a retail Andy you’re fking lost buddy. I’ve prbly played classic longer than you breathed. It’s because of ppl like you we have sod Mc where u stand still and hit a piñata for loot. If you want no changes play era 😂simple as that!
I got ganked trying to get DMF about a month ago but showed up with every other buff and consume. My guild leader asks me why I didn't have DMF and I told him what happened, and I didn't have time to try again before the raid. He then sent me a paragraph about how I need to be more prepared ect... Haven't logged into SoD since.
It's so crazy people are still like that for freaking SoD, hell, even Classic Era doesn't need WB, but people just want big numbers. It's one of the main reasons I didnt play SoD or Era, because people go insane for world buffs.
@@diode_wow yeah it kind of sucks to do all that preparation and travel just to save some minutes it gets kind of tideous on long run
oh man. what a snooze fest it all is
Sod is just so piss easy its great on paper but minmaxers really Fed it with all the sweatiness
I see you and the rest of the replies are fools or something. Maybe get an item called a chronoboon? It costs 20s at a reagent vendor. It is also nothing new.... Its been around for years at this point. Instead of blaming a guild YOU decided to join, maybe play the game like you have a brain
I'm glad that you pointed out that it is the Purist Classic Andy's that is holding SoD and classic+ back and not the devs. Because holy F they hate change
I disagree. It's up to the devs to make changes, they're to afraid too.
@@messaroundhandleit are you dumb?
they don't wanna change it because the dumb ass classic andys make them money, there would be a flat out money hit if they went full fledged in that direction.
Wasn't it obvious from P1 that the devs will not create something ground breaking new? I was disappointed by the "new raid" when I saw it's BFD with some new mechanics.
Just enough to get the hopium for a Classic+ up. It's not the fault of era players that the product is suboptimal.
I thought they were trolling when the new "Raid" was just a larger turtle boss in BFD lmao
then they just hit us with SoM again for 60
Always love you, Savvix. Big hugs.
I agree. I was just sick and tired of everyone looking the same with these Jabroni gear. And it was repetitive and of course way too many classic andys in there wanting to keep it so close to classic. I was like then go Era or Hardcore.
This is Season of Discovery, I wanted to DISCOVER new things. New playstyles for classes, quest lines, maybe even unlock an even faster mount speed. You know quality of life things..
I said it from day one of SoD it needed Transmog. A very loooooong questline to unlock them. We'd all do them for sure..
I had fun unlocking all the runes with those new questlines. It was something different; a new experience.
But after awhile it just still felt too close to classic and I got burnt out. Played retail for 19 years and then SoD for awhile.
Im burnt out entirely. Used to run high mythic + keys and even that was a burn out.
Always catch up with you from time to time. Got mad love for you. I stay following up on what you have going on. Be easy bro, 😊
Idk transmog hurts the core benefit of classic wow: world building. I think armor recoloring could be pretty good though
@@AJD-od9nq Yea, but it's not classic though.
You had Classic back then that went on to Bc then wrath and now cata live.
Then Era came out, and so did Hardcore.
That's three times PLUS the original vanilla which equates to four times having that armor on live servers. Let's not mention classic private servers that went on for awhile too
So Season of Discovery has potential to be something else entirely. If I earned that tier set, I should keep the look if I want it. And not look like a Power Ranger when Zul Gurub comes out. Bleh lol
Recoloring could be something, but I still think transmogs should be a thing.
No flying mounts either for Discovery but can we Discover at a looooong quest line to unlock an even faster mount than the 60 mount. Like having the flying speed but on your ground mount instead.
@@anthonyvelez8002 but it is classic. No matter what anyone says IT IS CLASSIC. Its a seasonal edition of classic with changes. Now I'm not going to sit here and defend all the changes or anything but people that played SoD thinking its not classic is fundamentally mistaken. The core foundation of the game was always classic. This also doesn't mean that there isn't room to think about even further changes like potentially a transmog system but it is still classic.
The classic team just don’t understand why people like classic.
All they have done is focus on making harder raid content rather than building on the world and the journey.
Imagine if they gave us all the new skills but also made more quest areas full of elites so you still had to group.
Hard for who? For window lickers?
It's so joever bros.
kinda feel the same. SoD was fun at the beginning but it had the same issues as classic for me. People treat it like the hardest game ever when it comes to finding groups for raids...its insane. Getting logs and having to do an interview like application process just to raid MC is just a huge timewaste.
I like the way turtle wow does classic+ , one of my fav parts about the server is world buffs are disabled in raids! Cannot use them, only helps leveling and dungeons etc..
I'm full BiS Gear, almost all Rep exalted tryhard warrior in SoD and quit end of P5 cause I can't deal with the World Buffs anymore after classic, classic era and now SoD. It's just a absolute timewaste feeling.
RETAIL IS SO MUCH FUN ATM ! F SOD
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Yup. I've found it best to just play what is most fun at the time. And rn retail is bis.
boring was fun first week
@@deadservers2374 no
can you explain to me how retail is fun? i am not trying to pick a fight i am asking because i played it for 2 weeks and its the same shit as dragonflight its the worlds most expensive shitty single player rpg out there
For world buffs: I think it wouldn’t be bad if we reduce the amount and let guards give you the buff if you missed the drop.. since all world buffs are local events the city guards can “fill you in” on what you missed
War Within has so much fun stuff, yea it has the usual “retail” drawbacks but it’s more fun than the same thing over and over.
I've pretty much quit sod as well. But i told my irl mate this with the coins you get from dungeons you should be able to spend them on buying the scroll that gives full WBs. and with Blizz still adding more dungeons in sod it gives people more insentive to go farm coins to get WBs.
My guild in SoD kicked me out cause they thought I was annoying and wasn’t a good player cause everyone was parsing higher than me. I told them they deliberately never use fire res aura or anything else for me to parse or allow me to get loot and feed it to all hunters. Needless to say I’m glad I quit SoD, it’s too damn toxic and blizzard takes too long to give new stuff. Would be sick if they gave everything at launch and just added their own expansion (turtle wow essentially) but alas they didn’t
This is a huge hit to SOD, losing Savix. yeah man I feel like a lot of the classic era players are holding SOD back. They are so scared of change it’s just making things weird in SOD. I will say this bro, BWL is wayyy better than MC. But yeah I really hate SOM MC.
You did your part Savix, you brought so many players to SOD and I think most people don’t even realize that. Cheers dude. Thanks for helping as much as you did in this project.
That is a perfect solution to world buffs do a quest chain get a scroll. I already did full world buffs on classic era and want nothign to do with world buffs in sod unless we can get them instantly and i was alliance at that and had to do mind controls even made a priest for it but man i hated when it backfired 💀💀Tbh that might bring back a decent amount of players if they added that
“Sod sucks, there’s nothing new so I’m going to lvl 1-60 on classic era”
He didnt say he was gonna play classic era at all bro, youre an idiot.
Nah I said sod was disappointing
I never said classic sucks. Classic wow is fun in its own ways, I’m simply stating if ppl don’t want changes go play fking era or hardcore. It’s not rocket science 👍
They should of never added classic to the title of sod
Why not. It is classic. Its built on the foundation of classic. Its on the same client as classic. It is quite frankly just classic with changes, all be it a lot of changes with a lot of them good and bad and very subjective but it is still at its core classic.
Good sod sucked. I barely wanted to log on for mc, and was only logging on for my guild. At some point I just had enough and told 1 person and quit disc, uninstalled the game, and never looked back.
They completely fucked SoD pvp and that's why I lost all faith in them..
MC such an easy raid to add cool things to as well it's basically one giant template of a raid, so much unused space. Such a shame they didn't try to get freaky wit it
I cant blame you savix cause yo bring valid points cause I got annoyed ever since war within came into play people weren’t coming to raids anymore
does anyone know the yellow glow effect addon he has around his cursor? i need asap
It’s probably the addon Cursortrail which lets you change the in game cursor
SSF HARDCORE PLAYERS WHO CAMP WORLD BUFFS ARE NOT SSF
Hand of Ragnaros gonna collect some dust.
You don't have to play every raid lockout, let the sod team try out different mechanics for raids, they obviously won't hit every time, I'm sure they've learned lessons(having a resistance requirement). Keep providing this kind of feedback! Enjoy Savix
with that mentality they are on blizz chopping block
@@Kim-tr5op it's been said from the beginning that SoD is experimental. It's success or lack thereof determines its future so feedback is necessary. If they don't do a Classic+ then it is what it is
everyone loved SOD because the first few phases were actually new and really refreshing, even if there was some Ls, at least it was new content. I didnt even bother with level 60 phases because its literally just vanilla raids with barely anything new, which is the whole point of why people want classic+, people love vanilla but are tired of doing the same raids they did million times already.
@@Grumpypu then I'll see you when they potentially do "khara crypts", that's okay
@@Kynawrath I think a lot of people would come back to that
Funny some clown on our server made his whole stream about camping the flower around ally fp flower in felwood. I forget his name something with an ''A'' horde lock.
I think we all saw this coming a mile away
idk mate, if you want hard mechs you can just play retail too... Works both ways with that state of mind ! To me sod is kinda in between, it's kinda fun and not too hard. Still pretty hard if you care about logs and compete against your own class. Depends on what you like doing. Trying to play as perfect as possible for a moderately hard encounter then you'll enjoy sod. If you wanna play weakaura simulator just play retail idk... Classic andys sure like to gatekeep but it's also to maintain the spirit of classic, without the uproar of classic boys speaking against retail imported systems like incursions you can be sure there would have been more of this shit in later phases.
I just think you like retail right now and it's okay. Just don't shit on SoD cause you playing something fresh on retail that for once doesn't suck ass straight away.
"i like that everyone wore the same stuff it made items recognizable and cool"
*a few years pass after classic release*
"i hate that everyone looks the same i want transmog"
wow players dont know what they fcking want and they never have why do you think the game is so garbage all the time
"this is what i want!!" *gets it* "this sucks!! the other thing was WAAAAY better!!!"
Everyone has different opinions. Also, people's opinions change. This is fact, no reason to respond.
@@deliciousfirstsip glaze more
classic andy's got what they wanted and now its not good enough anymore and suddenly they dont want it
they miss the feature that people have complained about for the last 14 years
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING. The era community shoots themselves in the foot and probably be the reason Classic plus will suck
the problem with classic andies is that truly deep down they dont want classic they want something else but cant vocalize it. classic + will be an epic fail but a niche community will hold onto it and protect it till it burns. If you are currently not enjoying era or retail, maybe wow just isnt the game for you. this is the problem with the wow community they wont give up even though they hate the gameplay in what ever iteration they play
Yep I never even made it to 60, SOD was a terrible experience from the very start, the reason so many of us stuck by it was hope but that hope got smashed in P3. I was finally enjoying SOD but then they did the PVP nerf and said for the weekend to try out so I waited, the following monday I quit forever when I realized that was BS and they were sticking with it
You called it off? Bro, I'm still active in your dead ass hardcore guild Bricked up Brothers. Also, I haven't played retail much recently so what's that flappy feather thing on your paladin's right shoulder?
I got BIS gear on my warlock back in gnomer and havent touched sod since it just got boring having everyone be sweaty and toxic for lfr tier difficulty and boring ass pvp. I would rather play retail where they can actually improve the game without a bunch of 40 year old man children seething because they can't just press 1 button as their whole rotation.
3:39 They will do it because they know people will be mad.
It's stupid to need tons of buffs to do content; it's just shit.
The preparation to do PvE in classic is over the top.
I think it's ... ok to camp since you're camping equally leveled and geared players.
Ganking is what is cringe af;
I ganked when I was 16 and nowadays it's like killing a low lvl mob.
Here comes the drama from savix
Thank god, it's over!
Are you calling out Payo on world pvp rant about bushes etc?
Sod is a actually a joke in terms of difficulty, saying your a sod pro means literally nothing. That said, i wont say im not disappointed with MC either. Everything the Sod devs have given us has been garbo. BWL being unbeatable because of a bug on day 1 didnt help anything for phase 5 so far.
SOD and Classic losers malding right now.
Make world buff persist through death
Good
will there be fresh hardcore realms ?
Sod blew harder than som. And some was just classic redux for plebs who failed the first classic
what are you saying lol a lot of sod players fully played classic, how do you "fail" classic
It seems like you didn't play enough😮
SOD's popping right now. I guess there's not enough money in making videos about it.
? Are you brain dead LMAOOO
It’s new content and popping. Playing it would make me money but I’m simply choosing not to. I played it enough and gave it a fair chance imo.
Classic Andy’s are in shambles rn
Pro SoD, now Pro Retail until the meta changes lol then pro that
Raid lockouts are dumb change my mind
You just wanna run it 5 times a week on the same toon and get fully geared, then get burnt out quicker?
@H-D-D No but some people would want the option to do that
@@H-D-D if you can wrangle 20 tards into running a raid 5 times a week you kinda deserve the loot
@@screaming311 Just shut up you whiny casual lol
just quit joining guilds like, that i joined one we just need rend, ony and song, thats all thats req. we made it thru BWL just fine, had only mongoose and elix or giants for my consumes. ez game, but when we push is like yea we gotta be decked but still, ain't no thang when we want more loot we gotta do just a tiny bit more prep to get 1-2 pieces of loots
He said SoD guild lmao....
sod was dead months ago lol
it was dead p3 and revived its got almost as much as cata.. so yeah not dead
The fuckin HELL NAW at the beginning lmao
6:06 This is what holds back the classic trilogy, basically, people flocked to old wow private servers because they liked the gameplay, not because they wanted to raid MC for 50 years, or ICC, or Black Temple... They preferred the gameplay back then compared to retail. They want wow to start from there and do it better than retail did.
"basically, people flocked to old wow private servers because they liked the gameplay"
People flocked to old wow private servers because they're free. Private servers are like 80% poor East European players who'd rather buy 3 packs of cigarettes than pay for a game.
@@VDA19 Yes, definitely, the price was a reason for some. But I think classic's official releases showed there are a lot of people that actually prefer it.
And they were mostly European because all the servers were European, as Blizzard would rarely hit those.
@@Ecliptor. Classic had 50% player loss halfway through WOTLK Classic and never got them back. It turns out these old expansions hipsters praised were pretty overrated.
@@VDA19 Yes, because it was the same content.
@@Ecliptor. So are private servers? People played for years on the same Warmane server because they'd rather play the same 2 raid for free than pay 10$ for new content on Retail. They're just cheap.
Lol....to play retail....to appease adhd losers....cool
pop a scroll lol, shiiiiit suggestion. Wbuffs brings interactions between players, good or bad, imo the best moments in mmos are not instanced content but content made from player interaction out in the world. yes camping DMF is lame, but DMF week brings life to the zones, that would otherwise just be a barren boring wasteland, cause everyone is afk in capitals or inside raids or bgs.
This is why actually interesting content needs to be added to the zones that gets people to leave the cities to go and do that content. The problem with WBs like DMF is that its not interesting content so people try to make it interesting by camping/griefing the buff and this causes problems because the players become the content and when it happens enough people quit the game over it. This has been the cycle of WBs for a long time now and it always causes a large group of people to quit classic and in the end only the true classic andy's stick around that actually like the WB content.
Savix has some retail brain rot
There’s no way you enjoy hitting a piñata for loot in classic. All I’m asking for is fun boss mechs😂
@@Savixirl yeah dude a lot of people like to log in crack a beer and fuck around no one really wants to sweat for pixels in a video game. it aint that deep we got jobs n shit to do
@@deadservers2374 that’s why era and hc exists, and who says I want crazy complicated mechs. Sod mc was just a repeat of som.. it simply is not fun
@@Savixirl i mean, sod is not the best and yhe most innovative thing i gotta give you that, but i enjoy the way classic plays out if i want to play complex games i rather play the souls series
@@deadservers2374 I mean you can just raid NHC on retail and do the same thing, NHC is not that hard.
so glad even the streamers are realizing how dog CHIT this game is. Its not classic. its trash it takes no skill and pvp is brutal
Classic pvp was broken; never took that much skill.
@@fistofram5526It doesn't need to take "skill" cause it's a f mmo.
@@luckylazaros9653 I love when moronic stupid people speak so we can highlight dumb from smart.
Thank you.
Like honestly if you dont like Classic play retail or catha, When retailplayers say Classic players are holding classic back i think you are out on deeeeeep water. its ppl like you that are going to make blizzard fuck up Classic +. if there is even 1% of the changes from SoD in Classic+ its going to be unplayable. Classic is supost to be weird. the bis weapon for Druids are supost to be a lvl 30 weapon from a dungeon. the bis Gloves is supost to be a rare lvl 44 world drop. Classic+ should be Classic pluss some new dungeons, raids, mabye give paladin a taunt and help Boomkins not to go oom as fast. The new raid should have classic like bosses with classic like mecanics with classic like stats. if only retailstreamers could stop having an opinion about a game they dont relly like. you stay on your side and we stay on our. Retail and Classic is not the same game. Imagine a League Of Legend player having an opinion och what dota2 is supost to be like, and then they make changes to Dota to be more like Lol and then the dota players dont want to play anymore and then the lol streamer says that it is the dota player that is holding the game back... and noone enjoys playing it.
Ehm Season of Discovery is Classic+ or did you thought that there was like something bigger coming? Like hate it to break it to you but if you classic people all jump from SoD, they probably wont dive further into doing new stuff for classic because SoD was their try. If it failed in their eyes, thats it.
Just play classic era if you want it, don’t hold sod and classic plus back with your bs. Talking fondly about shit like crowd pummeler is fucking brain rot, that shit is so unbelievably ass.
@@yakkamotogaming2656 based
If you like classic, stay playing classic era. Most people don't want to go raid molten core and press frost bolt reminiscing about when they used to be young.
You say that and all the content I see of you uploading is hardcore wow/csgo LMAOO at least I tried genuinely and gave a fair opinion on why I don’t like it. If you want to argue about me being a retail Andy you’re fking lost buddy. I’ve prbly played classic longer than you breathed. It’s because of ppl like you we have sod Mc where u stand still and hit a piñata for loot. If you want no changes play era 😂simple as that!