00-The Korg ARP 2600M-Why I am astonished

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  • @golafs
    @golafs 9 місяців тому +2

    still remember your tutorials from watching them 15 years ago! :) good stuff

  • @1980VINZ
    @1980VINZ 5 місяців тому +1

    I finally was able to order one, in France these last days it was priced for 990€ the standard edition, I was almost crying of happiness and I’ve just received it today (or should I say yesterday….it’s 5am and I force myself to leave it to go sleep…..!!)
    I AM IN LOVE WITH IT. I love Japanese and their sense of detail and respect…….. The way this little beauty is packed, the case, the construction Made in Japan (PRICELESS), it sounds even better than expected, the spring reverb is A REAL GOOD ONE, …….. I cannot be more happy.
    Now I will start to really enjoy your videos !!!!!!
    THANK YOU
    Salut 🫡 from southeast coast France 🇫🇷
    ViNZ.

  • @Manmademadman
    @Manmademadman 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks Marc-- I couldn't agree more! I LOVE the smaller (arguably better?) size of the 2600M and was equally surprised at the sound, build quality, and massive spring reverb. I had to open it up to see! I'll be using this live for sure.

  • @arjanr100
    @arjanr100 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the great series on the 2600 ! It helped me to better understand this great machine. So did your series on the Fusebox !!!

  • @codymchardy7465
    @codymchardy7465 2 роки тому +5

    You're so great! I watch your Minilogue and 2600 series like once a month!

  • @ConstantLittleGhost
    @ConstantLittleGhost 2 роки тому +5

    My 2600m arrived last week. Waited 9 months for it.
    Opened the box yesterday and was so happy. It oozes quality, and the sound was gorgeous. ❤️❤️❤️
    Will follow this series more closely than usual as I think I'll be learning a lot from it.

    • @futurebeats898
      @futurebeats898 2 роки тому

      So korg are still making them?.. Im confused cause they stoped i believed

    • @johnmiddleton4291
      @johnmiddleton4291 2 роки тому +2

      @@futurebeats898 They just starter making the 2600m. Are you thinking of the FS version, which was limited to about 400?

    • @ConstantLittleGhost
      @ConstantLittleGhost 2 роки тому

      @@futurebeats898 yeah the FS was strictly limited and isn't made any more.
      The "m"... I ordered mine last summer and got it last week. I don't know how much longer Korg will make them for.

  • @gelsol
    @gelsol 2 роки тому +1

    Glad you're "revisiting" the 2600. Much appreciated!

  • @davypelletier
    @davypelletier 2 роки тому +2

    This is the synth I’ve been waiting to get my hands on.

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 2 роки тому +8

    The beastie. You're right, it doesn't feel small at all because the original is really big by today's standards. The 2600m is the same size as a cab of System 100m. Pretty perfect really.
    Leant mine to a friend and he arrived wearing an ARP t-shirt and wheeled it away in the ARP suitcase. I had to take a photo. 😄

  • @jonastiljander6217
    @jonastiljander6217 2 роки тому +1

    Got mine in February and simply love it. I don't feel I need another synthesizer actually. Can't wait for this series, your videos are always fun and helpful!

  • @rexterrocks
    @rexterrocks 2 роки тому +2

    I had always wanted a 2600 of my own and I got the 2600M recently. I'd watched your videos on the original many years ago and when I got mine it was great to rewatch them. I've been having a great time going through the original patch book. The smaller size is absolutely perfect as I wouldn't even have the space for a full size, even if I could get one.

  • @luizfernandopedroso334
    @luizfernandopedroso334 7 місяців тому +1

    Very nice, thanks for the video!
    Looking forward for you to try the new plugin KORG is releasing.

  • @peterkadarmusic9728
    @peterkadarmusic9728 2 роки тому

    I’m really looking forward to this series. Thank you, Marc.

  • @1111undici1111
    @1111undici1111 2 роки тому

    This is an amazing device! I can't wait to get my hands on it finally! Nice video, thank you!

  • @MrArpSolina
    @MrArpSolina 2 роки тому +9

    Awesome, I love my Behringer 2600 Blue Marvin so much. Thanks for this great video!

    • @silkyglimpses7686
      @silkyglimpses7686 2 роки тому +3

      same here love my blue synth can't afford a korg 2600

    • @dogboywonder
      @dogboywonder 2 роки тому +2

      Had a Grey Meanie. Flipped it because the build quality sucked even though the components are supposedly “hand selected”. You get what you pay for I guess

    • @mattthomasoverdrive4514
      @mattthomasoverdrive4514 Рік тому +3

      @@dogboywonder I've used my Grey Meanie live for a year now and build quality is great, no issues. What problems did you have?

  • @XanderEwald
    @XanderEwald 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have been on the fence to get the 2600m, but kept wondering if the Antonus wouldn’t sound more authentic. Seems Korg did a good job there.

  • @neilloughran4437
    @neilloughran4437 2 роки тому +4

    Nice Mark! I got the FS on release and it's just an amazing synth. I was wondering how they got around the LFO speed, vibratio delay delay/depth and portamento controls on the FS keyboard controller for the mini... does the mini version just lose those controls/capabilities?

    • @AngeloSantelliMusic
      @AngeloSantelliMusic Рік тому

      They lose those controls except portamento is through midi cc which I have no clue about. Using another ARP (with a keyboard) with cv / gate passes through portamento, vibrato, octave switching.

  • @stevehofer3482
    @stevehofer3482 2 роки тому +8

    I really like your theme. it looks like the limited edition is going for a street price of around $2,400, and I think that is about what the first 2600 sold for in 1971. Per the inflation calcualtor - that would be the equivalent of $15,970 in 2021. (Throw in another 5 or 6% for 2022.) We are indeed living in a great time for synthesizers.

  • @AgentsofRush
    @AgentsofRush Рік тому +1

    I followed your older vids you metnioned when I was learning the software version all those years ago. I got an M on Thursday so about to go through your new vids now 👍

  • @sonicultura
    @sonicultura 2 роки тому

    Made my day with this!! Agree it’s a great price for it! And in a way it sounds super modern! Love it! Thanks man!!

  • @inperfectsequence7840
    @inperfectsequence7840 Рік тому

    Ohh friend I remember the wonderful videos you made with ARP2600. 😍
    This 2600 mini is like the MS20 mini and the Odyssey mini, they are not home products for consumption, they are products for which they have space problems, the materials are cheaper but that is why they are cheaper, for those who do not have room for put a real arp 2600 korg offers a smaller one and not everyone does that.
    The minis are really expensive and not everyone can make a purchase of any of the korg minis.
    They are real and great synthesizers, they are 100% analog and for lovers of analog sound they are great sound machines.
    I have the MS20 mini and it's great, really great, you have to take good care of them, not treat them badly with bumps and things like that, they are expensive and unique machines.
    I am lucky to have the original Odyssey and it really is a very difficult heavy tank to move, it sounds as heavy as its real weight, but that sound is also dark and old because the years do not forgive and cricuits have their way of aging, like people.
    Anything good sounding analog mini or not, will be a great buy.

  • @sonicultura
    @sonicultura 2 роки тому

    I would love seeing more! Lovely man!!

  • @nictrax
    @nictrax Рік тому

    I'm saving for one. Hope they are still avialable when I have enough.

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 2 роки тому +2

    How does the Beheringer 2600 compare to the Korg ARP 2600M? The 2600M costs almost 4 times the price. I'd like to hear more about how they differ.
    I had an ARP Pro Soloist and loved it. What I'd really like to see is the aftertouch effects section of a Pro Soloist added to a 2600. The 2600 isn't limited to presets and has an awesome stage look to it, but lacks the important aftertouch effects I loved about the Pro Soloist.

  • @timthompson468
    @timthompson468 2 роки тому

    Great video. I’m gad to hear you’ll be demoing the 2600M. I first learned about the 2600 from your excellent video series. I was thinking I’d have to settle for the Arturia virtual 2600, but I was lucky enough to snag a the 2600FS when they came out. (I paused the Sonic State video as soon as I heard him mention it was a limited run, and ordered the first one I found online. I got number 17 of 18 that the vendor had allotted to them.) I’ve been having a blast with it ever since. I like working through the excellent manual, but I find myself getting distracted exploring sounds, so it takes forever to work through it. I’m looking forward to your new series.

  • @roger_001
    @roger_001 2 роки тому +3

    I really love your ARP2600 series, i watched it for the first time around the time it came out, i dont remember exactly how i end up there beacause at the time i didnt even know what a synthesizer was or that such a thing existed, i just was mesmerized by all the cables, faders and weird sounds. Ive seen the series countless times and im just finally getting into synths. anyway, just wanted to say thank you for your videos and all the work you put into them!!

  • @aseomg
    @aseomg 2 роки тому

    How Korg hasn't taken a few features of the 2600 and make a Volca version, is beyond me.
    Looking forward to hearing you make some grandfather clock sounds out of your new mini ARP.

  • @analogholic3651
    @analogholic3651 Рік тому

    Marc, how does the reissue compare to your original soundwise?

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  Рік тому +1

      The first reissue I played sounded identical to my original. The FS and M I have now are at least as close to the Grey Face I had as the Orange and Black is.
      The spring reverb is too good, and as bad as the ADSR is, it’s still better than the original! Ha ha

    • @analogholic3651
      @analogholic3651 Рік тому

      @@automaticgainsay Thanks man" Much appreciated! Guess it´s not too big of a deal mod the ADSR...one cap IIRC :)

  • @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
    @ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST 2 роки тому

    Wow, it actually sounds like an old analog synth. Impressive!

  • @synthdude7664
    @synthdude7664 2 роки тому +3

    Marc Doty, such an incredibly intelligent and informative voice for the synth community. So glad he does what he does!

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you!

    • @synthdude7664
      @synthdude7664 2 роки тому +1

      @@automaticgainsay no no, thank you! Haha

    • @synthdude7664
      @synthdude7664 2 роки тому +1

      @@automaticgainsay have you ever had a chance to play a 2500?

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  2 роки тому +1

      @@synthdude7664 I never have. But I hope to someday!

  • @monotronfan1
    @monotronfan1 2 роки тому +3

    The form factor and authenticity are impressive but the built in midi usb host is what really got me. It’s crazy that’s not a standard feature on more synths

  • @dr.eville
    @dr.eville Рік тому

    Have you tried the Behringer 2600? How does that compare?

  • @JustPassingByBaby
    @JustPassingByBaby 2 роки тому +1

    Have you tried the Behringers and what's your opinion on that whole thing? Just curious. I still prefer my 2600 KORG

  • @sonicultura
    @sonicultura 2 роки тому

    Great video!!

  • @dreamzilla1344
    @dreamzilla1344 2 роки тому

    How does the sound of the 2600M compare to the 2600 FS?

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  2 роки тому

      I have been planning to do a video on this subject, but it seems like it is the same, with the exception of the FS having more functions.

    • @dreamzilla1344
      @dreamzilla1344 2 роки тому

      @@automaticgainsay Great to hear! I love the idea of having one of a smaller size. What are some of the functions that are missing? By the way, any chance of you remaking those old MS-20 videos you did years ago? I love those videos and would love to have them in HD :)

  • @KamilKisiel
    @KamilKisiel 2 роки тому

    Does the micro key fit in the case with the 2600?

  • @geoffk777
    @geoffk777 2 роки тому

    I have a couple of 2600 VSTs and, honestly, that's fine for me. I can do at least 90% of what a hardware version can do. I've never found ARPs to be especially intuitive--even simpler ones like the Odyssey, and I really don't enjoy working with them as much as most of my other synths--hardware or VST. Just a personal preference, but Moog vs ARP was a thing back in the 1970's and I can't easiy change my attitude now.

  • @yoshimitsu1977
    @yoshimitsu1977 2 роки тому +1

    I live in japan and the small factor man, made possible for me to own one.

    • @dreamzilla1344
      @dreamzilla1344 2 роки тому

      Price is a little cheaper here in Japan too!

  • @emilythemartian
    @emilythemartian Рік тому

    This guy has the most luscious head of hair in all of the youtube synth game. Respect

  • @mpmi7588
    @mpmi7588 2 роки тому +1

    I shall control the 2600 with either grandmother or minilogue xd. One if them should make for a cool combo.

  • @dvamateur
    @dvamateur Рік тому

    This 2600M by itself looks very nice. I also like the Behringer System 55. Behringer also has the 2600 model; but the 2600M looks better than the Behringer. I simply don't like the Behringer slider parts bin. Anyway, it's all good, except for that mini keyboard which quite ruins the whole experience.

  • @spurv
    @spurv 2 роки тому

    I'm sure the 2600M is pretty identical to the 2600FS, only in a smaller box. However, the 2600M is not a smaller version of the original Arp 2600, which has through-hole wiring (while the 2600M is SMT), making for much easier servicing. Also, from what I heard, they cut corners on the build quality of the 2600M.

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  2 роки тому +1

      “Cut corners on the build quality?” How?

    • @spurv
      @spurv 2 роки тому +1

      @@automaticgainsay Saw some people complain about the nuts/washers being fake, made of plastic, and not securing the jacks to the panel. Meaning, the strain of plugging/unplugging is going directly to the solder joints.

    • @AngeloSantelliMusic
      @AngeloSantelliMusic Рік тому

      @@spurvon gearslutz there’s 10 pages of anticipatory complaining but they’re fine in person, I can’t tell even if they’re metal or plastic in person

  • @sugurukase1046
    @sugurukase1046 2 роки тому +1

    My only reason for not buying one right now is just that I’m afraid KORG is going to make a plug-in version of it and then I’m like noooooo. For new synthesists with no particular emotional connection to this machine it is certainly an exotic and interesting choice

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths Рік тому

      oh they or someone else will make a soft synth version

  • @guysmiley7289
    @guysmiley7289 2 роки тому +1

    I got one. It sounds amazing but everything feels like it is going to break off.

  • @activelow9297
    @activelow9297 2 роки тому +2

    Marc you're not out of luck if you want an ARP 2600 recreation for cheap. The Behringer 2600's are fine instruments.. I own 3 of them. Nothing sucks harder than making a complicated patch and then having to undo all the connections to make another one. I can have 3 2600 parts going at the same time in a production and that's a huge timesaver!

    • @AngeloSantelliMusic
      @AngeloSantelliMusic Рік тому

      Behringer gets Moog clones right but thier ARPs especially 2600 are not even close

  • @RadicalCaveman
    @RadicalCaveman Рік тому

    The original keyboard had an extra LFO in it which this thing lacks.

    • @automaticgainsay
      @automaticgainsay  Рік тому +1

      The original keyboard on the 2600 was the 3604, which was limited and did not have an LFO. More ARP 2600s had this keyboard. The 3620, which came out later, did have an LFO.
      If you watch my original demonstration series on the original 2600, I show you some ways to feign an LFO when you don’t have the 3620.

  • @Cyndaqueer
    @Cyndaqueer 2 роки тому

    I’m here because Ozzy didn’t know wtf all those knobs did

  • @saren6538
    @saren6538 2 роки тому +10

    Thank god for behringer

    • @michaeltamburello
      @michaeltamburello Рік тому +1

      Amen, brother! I recently acquired two of them. Having more fun than a human should be allowed!

    • @AngeloSantelliMusic
      @AngeloSantelliMusic Рік тому

      The Behringer one doesn’t sound anything like the 2600m or vintage 2600. The poly D sounds similar to a modern Moog but they don’t come close to a vintage or modern ARP

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Рік тому

      @@AngeloSantelliMusic sounds nothing like ? 😂😂😂

    • @saren6538
      @saren6538 Рік тому

      @@AngeloSantelliMusic sounds nothing like ? 😂😂😂

  • @angelog.spicolaiii8021
    @angelog.spicolaiii8021 2 роки тому +1

    Well I'll say THIS¡...this korg's way better than any of that cheapo knockoff b-ear-ringer clone crap of course the korg had limited production, cost 2 gran more & has a kybd so that's gotta account for something not being a korg guy at all?! But ARP (IS)[STILL] has auh (THE) ^KING^'s ransom's edge. I'll be interested to hear & see when u get to the filter section part of these vids if the ones in this korg (which are supposed to I guess be similar to the Real Deal's) are rendition's of the filters in the ancient DW8000 -they are analog I believe¿
    those syrupy specials are stellar.magic, not unlike the real 26oo's isare, that can be routed externally with audio&MIDI nice feature commendably for 'we'd be nothing without yamaha' korg(¡) As usual Udahbest Doty thanx again dude 😎
    [P.S.-aren't those the reason that Moog sued ARP & made'm change'm post haste of the original(s)¡]