Another fantastic video! As I've written before, please consider covering Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC, KCB, KCIE, Major-General Clive Wynne-Candy, and/or the great Canadian (super) hero, James Howlett.
Thanks for your feedback. I have added them on my (very long) to-to list, I've pencilled in some time over the Xmas/NY period to dig out my Flashman books and do some research. Judging by the amount of escapades he was in, it may be a 2 or 3 part mini series!
I saw another video about Coporal Jones medals on another channel. Someone in the BBC props department really did their homework. Dad's Army is a series to look into after looking into the real history. And most of the cast were either WW2 military veterans or even Home Guard and WW1 veterans (Pvt Godfery).
The reveal that Jones was unlikely to be in the Warcs, and yet his local regiments fitting the early medals so nicely makes the ribbon bar even cooler. I wonder if the costume department knew someone who had this exact history.
where he was captured and spent most of the war in a POW camp, he said he had a horrible war and doesn't know why anyone would look back fondly at that time
Interest fact if you don’t know already. A large part of the cast of Dads Army had served in the British Army, either during or after the first World War or the Second World War. So most of them would have had actual service medals.
Quite a lot of actors of the 50’s to 70’s served, Richard Todd, Michael Horden, David Niven, John Gregson( he took part in the last boarding party to use Cutlasses)
Next time, how about Jock Sinclair or rather most of the characters from "Tunes of Glory" (1960)? There's a lot of fun going on there. DSO, MC w/Bar, MM and all the campaign medals. It practically tells the story itself.
Corporal Jones often references Field Marshal Kitchener, but I am always surprised that his character never referenced Winston Churchill, an officer in his regiment and comrade in many of his campaigns.
Considering Jones was willing to volunteer for anything and get involved in the action I'm a little surprised he didn't pick at least one gallantry medal along the way.
I've read an account of the battle of Abu Klea which put the blame for the square breaking at least partly on Colonel Fred Burnaby, who apparently ordered a unit on his side of the square to wheel outwards so give them a better field of fire, creating a gap which the dervishes exploited. Burnaby himself was attacked and killed outside the square.
Arnold Ridley also had a distinguished (and real) military career. The RN canvass First Aid bags were called Godfrey bags. I think the slang has moved on now!
Thanks for the suggestion, I may do one in future about Godfrey focusing on his gallantry award and experiences on the western front. I think Sgt Wilson may have also been at Gallipoli in the RA but will have to look into that so that could also be a possibility.
My Grandfather was promoted to Lance Corporal 'in the field' at Passchendaele. On a Vickers gun and prevented the trench from being overrun. No fuzzy Wuzzies, but not much fun. 9th Hawkes Bay, Wellington mounted rifles. NZ Army.
The Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal ribbon is actually incorrect - since Jones joined in 1884 and the LSCGM qualification period was 18 years, he would be awarded the medal in 1902 which in that time was plain crimson. Yet Jones's ribbons show the medal with the post-1916 ribbon, which was crimson with white edges. Otherwise, great video 👍
I think Jones appears in an early episode of Dad's Army in his WW1 uniform. Perhaps the uniform is from his earlier career and I think the episode is in colour so maybe not a very early episode. I think he's a sargeant, but then I might have got that wrong, too! Anyway great to hear more from his exploits. Thanks.
Minor point, but I think it would be more correct to say that Wolseley was in overall command and Earle was in command of the river column. (spoiler: it was Gladstone's fault!)
Well done!! That was very enjoyable and must have been a workout for you. I think it was a shame that he didn't get a coronation or jubilee medal at some point and if anyone is worthy of a meritorious service medal it would be him but I think you need to be a Sargent for them. He will get the defence medal at some stage and as they took a U-boat crew captive who knows what he might have got for that! As a set of medals it is a very impressive career and God knows what a set like that would be worth! Now you can go and lay down in a dark room for a bit!!😅😊
Another fantastic video! As I've written before, please consider covering Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC, KCB, KCIE, Major-General Clive Wynne-Candy, and/or the great Canadian (super) hero, James Howlett.
Thanks for your feedback. I have added them on my (very long) to-to list, I've pencilled in some time over the Xmas/NY period to dig out my Flashman books and do some research. Judging by the amount of escapades he was in, it may be a 2 or 3 part mini series!
I saw another video about Coporal Jones medals on another channel. Someone in the BBC props department really did their homework.
Dad's Army is a series to look into after looking into the real history. And most of the cast were either WW2 military veterans or even Home Guard and WW1 veterans (Pvt Godfery).
Apologies in advance, I had a technical issue with my microphone in this video at some points so will be getting a replacement before the next video!
Don't worry, it wasn't distracting at all! Keep up the good work! ;)
No worries. A little boomy, but ready for the parage ground.
The reveal that Jones was unlikely to be in the Warcs, and yet his local regiments fitting the early medals so nicely makes the ribbon bar even cooler. I wonder if the costume department knew someone who had this exact history.
Imagine Flasheart and Jonesy existing in the same universe. Id love to see that meeting.
lol...Baldrick and Godfrey could get on quite well together I reckon
Lcpl Jones was actually a hero, a hero by accident.
Clive Dunn actually fought in Greece in 1941.
where he was captured and spent most of the war in a POW camp, he said he had a horrible war and doesn't know why anyone would look back fondly at that time
If he was still alive at the end of the war he would have also earned the 1939-45 defence medal
Hi, love watching this program. I wonder if you can do a video about Uncle Albert from Fools and Horses?
Good choice! 👍
Thanks for the suggestion, its on my to-do list!
What a good idea!
James Donald who played Group Captain Ramsey in the Great Escape apparently has his medal ribbon displayed incorrectly.
Interest fact if you don’t know already. A large part of the cast of Dads Army had served in the British Army, either during or after the first World War or the Second World War. So most of them would have had actual service medals.
That would also be a great topic for a video
That would also be a great topic for a video
Quite a lot of actors of the 50’s to 70’s served, Richard Todd, Michael Horden, David Niven, John Gregson( he took part in the last boarding party to use Cutlasses)
Next time, how about Jock Sinclair or rather most of the characters from "Tunes of Glory" (1960)? There's a lot of fun going on there. DSO, MC w/Bar, MM and all the campaign medals. It practically tells the story itself.
Corporal Jones often references Field Marshal Kitchener, but I am always surprised that his character never referenced Winston Churchill, an officer in his regiment and comrade in many of his campaigns.
Don't panic!!! CoC has uploaded a new video! Don't panic!!! 😃
Legend has it the Lance Corporals medals were altered when the series was filmed in colour.
Brilliant video as usual keep up the good work
A slight dating error at 19:05 (weirdly that is the exact mistake!) It's a great video and very informative.
Considering Jones was willing to volunteer for anything and get involved in the action I'm a little surprised he didn't pick at least one gallantry medal along the way.
I've read an account of the battle of Abu Klea which put the blame for the square breaking at least partly on Colonel Fred Burnaby, who apparently ordered a unit on his side of the square to wheel outwards so give them a better field of fire, creating a gap which the dervishes exploited. Burnaby himself was attacked and killed outside the square.
Funny that you mentioned the Royal West Kent Regiment.
The Home Guard platoon in “Dad’s Army” wear the cap badge of the Royal West Kent Regiment.
Thank you for your excellent video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this one! Perhaps Pte Godfrey next....?
Arnold Ridley also had a distinguished (and real) military career. The RN canvass First Aid bags were called Godfrey bags. I think the slang has moved on now!
Thanks for the suggestion, I may do one in future about Godfrey focusing on his gallantry award and experiences on the western front. I think Sgt Wilson may have also been at Gallipoli in the RA but will have to look into that so that could also be a possibility.
Permission to panic , mister Mainwaring! Permission to panic!
My Grandfather was promoted to Lance Corporal 'in the field' at Passchendaele. On a Vickers gun and prevented the trench from being overrun. No fuzzy Wuzzies, but not much fun. 9th Hawkes Bay, Wellington mounted rifles. NZ Army.
The Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal ribbon is actually incorrect - since Jones joined in 1884 and the LSCGM qualification period was 18 years, he would be awarded the medal in 1902 which in that time was plain crimson. Yet Jones's ribbons show the medal with the post-1916 ribbon, which was crimson with white edges.
Otherwise, great video 👍
What about his home guard service?
Defence medal and victory medal?
As far as I know, members of the LDV were ineligible for the War Medal.
I think Jones appears in an early episode of Dad's Army in his WW1 uniform. Perhaps the uniform is from his earlier career and I think the episode is in colour so maybe not a very early episode. I think he's a sargeant, but then I might have got that wrong, too! Anyway great to hear more from his exploits. Thanks.
@stco2426 In a couple of episodes, Lance Corporal Jones appears in his dress uniform of a redcoat black trousers and a bearskin hat!!
Would he have earned any more medals for service in the home guard?
Yes, the Defence Medal.
Hey mate can you cover breaker morant and the lighthorsemen films cheers ✌
Dunn did an interview with Wogan in character and said he volunteered for the Camel Corps in Africa. Not sure if this helps the anomaly?
The British army's top officer in India cpt Bloomberg form Indian Jones and the temple of doom
Minor point, but I think it would be more correct to say that Wolseley was in overall command and Earle was in command of the river column. (spoiler: it was Gladstone's fault!)
Yes fair point, a slip of the tongue on my behalf.
It could be that he was transferred to a new regiment or possibly signed a new contract (or reenlisted after being caught)
And after ww2 he would have added 39-45 star and the war medal and defence medal
Well done!!
That was very enjoyable and must have been a workout for you.
I think it was a shame that he didn't get a coronation or jubilee medal at some point and if anyone is worthy of a meritorious service medal it would be him but I think you need to be a Sargent for them.
He will get the defence medal at some stage and as they took a U-boat crew captive who knows what he might have got for that!
As a set of medals it is a very impressive career and God knows what a set like that would be worth!
Now you can go and lay down in a dark room for a bit!!😅😊
Yes thanks John it was a bit of an epic to research ! Ah yes I will have to rewatch that U-boat episode - it was a classic.
Do someting on Godfeys medal.
it looks like who ever came up with this medals. didn´t realy do their research. but at least it was in the right time period.
Re-post?
The History Chap did a video on LCPL Jones about a year ago, perhaps you're thinking of that? ua-cam.com/video/WL_F3E973bU/v-deo.html