One of the things I love the most about this adaptation is how Lydia has a chance. She's a real person here, with good traits and bad traits, a person who makes mistakes. As much as I love the book I always feel bad for Lydia because she is such a shallow character there, and in the end she had her future ruined by her ingenuity and no chance of fixing it, and that's it.
Ana Almeida I kinda like how this is an interactive video, mainly because you watch the videos where they fallout an people comment down below that she was immature and petty and selfish and etc. it makes certain moments like 3:55 even more heartbreaking. It isn't just in the script actual people are saying that.
+Ana Almeida I love what they do with Lydia, but I'm not at all sure that she's "more of a person" than in the books. She's in a different situation. LBD!Lydia gets left out of her sisters' friendship and is regularly lectured and disparaged by her mother, so she's much more lonely and unsure of herself than novel!Lydia who is closest to her sister Kitty (and despite being younger is the one who dictates what they do), and she's her mother's unashamed favourite. In the books Lizzie is (If I recall) the only one who ever tries to prevent Lydia from doing something she wants to. Novel!Lydia is very sure of herself, while also being impulsive and even spoiled. Add to that that novel!Lydia's desire to go dancing and be the centre of attention would not have been considered quite as irresponsible as LBD!Lydia's desire to party and be the centre of attention, because LBD!Lydia is culturally expected to finish school and get a job (requiring her to be responsible), while novel!Lydia is culturally expected to get married. But the changes they made in LBD because of these different situations are definitely part of what make this such a great adaption.
exactly. In our college we used to theorize and many agree that the way Lydia and Mary were treated the way they were in the original was because of the tone deafness when it comes to writing about social commentary by Austen. Of course Mary is not too intellectual, she is finding her personal footing at 14, of course Lydia is not flighty, she is a 15 year old kid with none of his sisters and father taking her care. But Austen, in order to make her point about the discourse of marriage and partnership, consumerism and women education, never treated these two as more than social commentary where the audience were supposed to find a 20 year old adult Elizabeth's choices and way of thinking better than her kid sisters. That is why in the epilogue, there is not realization for Elizabeth that the way Lydia is begging for money with her unable to save money and a gambler husband is horrible and Mary is just ok now that she is not compared to others and hurray! This series treated Lydia as a well rounded character and not a social commentary otherwise she wouldn't feel anything or would have disappeared with scant mention about what she feels from the series if we went by the real spirit of the original text. I love the original books but it has it own flaws and i am glad Bernie Su tried to do better where it was needed.
I totally agree! I'm actually writing my term paper on this, for my major's seminar in uni! She's a much more compelling character here! Also almost all modern day retellings don't have her end up with him - which i find fascinating. Modern society seems to have decided that Lydia deserves better.
+ahandfuloftime I think the difference is how Modern society works. For us, divorce isn't some mythical line we can never cross, nor do we have no choice but to put up with an asshole because society gives us no way out. But in 1800s, once Lydia became involved with Wickham, there was no way out. Anything other than marriage would have completely ruined her and her whole family making them social phariahs. Keep in mind, that unlike today, their world would have been quite smaller. Now, in most societies not only no one would be ostracized to that extent but even if there is a little backlash, you have the option of relocating.
I hate seeing comments on this video saying Lydia needed this "wake up call" or something. I identify so deeply with Lydia in this series. Being the youngest sister, being the most flirtatious one, dating the most guys, making the most mistakes. And I dated a guy like George Wickham. A guy who isolated me from my friends and family, who made me feel like I didn't love him unless I did exactly what he asked. I was lucky enough to have gone to a seminar about "revenge porn" before meeting him, so when he asked me to send him topless pictures, I refused. But I don't doubt that when we broke up (when he left me, would be more accurate. Left me feeling like I failed as a girlfriend. Like I would never be loved again), he would've sent those pictures around. So, having gone through this (on a lesser scale of course) I can attest that no one needs this. No one can be so flirtatious or promiscuous that they /deserve/ this. No one. And I don't think anyone has the right to insinuate that this was good for Lydia. If you think Lydia needed this, then you're ostensibly saying that women deserve the abuse they suffer.
+Nina Richner I really hope you're doing okay now -- either happily single or with someone who treats you like a treasure instead of trash. Awful story. -SO- glad you went to that seminar and are away from him. As for "needs to happen", definitely not. But if anyone can see a story like this and then gain an awareness to avoid these kinds of people, that is something good. No one needs this.
Watching Lydia breakdown like this and all her videos, it really shows that people can be strong and smart, but they still can get mixed up in horrible relationships and not know what's going on and the videos with her and George honestly terrify me.
Nobody deserves what Lydia almost got. I HATE the shame that girls have to endure for being flirtatious or just very sexually active. And however a girl chooses to act, being shamed for it, especially on a sexual standpoint, is disgusting and the shame lies entirely with the person who shames them. I have not hated George Wickham more than in this version.
Nobody deserves this, on that we agree. But we're not talking about shaming here--we're talking about a full-blown abusive relationship on multiple levels long before things ever became sexual. Certainly Lydia's past behavior made her an easy target, but the responsibility always lies with the abuser. This particular series of events is particularly where a modern-day P&P does it works best, in my opinion. Whenever you have a story being told on or involving the Internet, you have to be willing to acknowledge that there is very much a dark side to this kind of technology, and that's exactly what we saw here.
Going back and rewatching this episode is hard - it's when I started to realize my own abusive relationship. Nothing so dramatic as a sex tape but...its almost been a year since I left him. Thank you LBD for helping me realize that relationship was toxic. Not sure where I'd be now if I hadn't left him.
Good on you for getting out of the relationship. I’m glad this show helped you! It’s such an amazing depiction of P&P. Hope you are still doing well 5 years later
Thats the problem, when we think of abusiv relationships we always think of the realy bad stuff, and tell ourself it is not that bad if it is not the worst even if it hurt someone realy realy bad and they might never be the same again . . . My best friends where an abusiv relationship, she realy did not mean to hurt her, but she did, terribly . . .
I know it's been close to a decade since you posted this, but I'm really glad you got out of there. I hope you've gone on to have a happy and fulfilling life, full of people who actually deserve your love, in the interim
@@samuelgiraudo8748 I super did! I'm much older, have a partner that loves and respects me and whom I love and respect, and I'm so happy with the people I love. It really truly does get better.
I mean this is piece of art, In ordinary tv shows, you do not have such a level of acting and I think ther this was way way cheaper (I guess) So yeah, everybody deserves en Emmy for this and Ashley, Laura and Mary Kate deserve Oscar for this performance...
I am so freaking glad they didn't play the outro music. Very wise decision by the producers. That would've totally killed the moment caused by the fantastic and heartbreaking heart to heart done by these two brilliant actresses and the wonderful writers.
+Keyziahah Long same oh my god. like i've rewatched this series so many times but that one line is all it takes to break me down into an emotional coma
"How could I have never told Lydia that I love her? Just as she is? Exasperating, caring, crazy, wonderful, all of it. What the hell kind of sister does that make me?" --The Secret Diary of Lizzie Bennet ;~;
She did not let him film that. He scared her and forced her into doing that. If this was a case of asking if it would be okay, discussing it for a while, and giving her time to think about it, that would be fine.
mysteryperson1976 Yes. Coercion is never consent. And even if she had consented to be filmed, she didn’t consent to it being posted for the internet to see.
This is one of the most well-acted and fascinating portrayals of P&P I've seen. Sure, what both parties in the series did was wrong, but I feel like there's more closure within this story than in the original novel. Watching this, I think that this Lydia is almost a different character; Lydia didn't ever expose any hurt/guilty feelings openly within Austen's novel, she was more haughty and prideful that she "won" in marrying before her other sisters. The original P&P novel, however, was written during a time when children were almost "sold off" in marriage and relationships as cattle to benefit the parents, and that was one of P&P's many messages. Did Tom and/or Hank Green help in creating this? If so, this video feels very in their "style"; they give closure to several subjects about which they probably were curious about when they first read P&P, and, in doing so, give P&P that beautiful, heart-wrenching verisimilitude (Darcy-ism!) that we all love in Green's novels!
+Noelle M In P&P Lydia was a rather one-dimensional character. When LBD starts it portrays her in such a manner, but as the story progresses, Lydia becomes a fully-fledged character. So, this goes way beyond source material. And yes, this episode is very powerful. The best of what I've seen thus far (I'm watching continuously from the beginning for the first time).
+Noelle M Hank had a major role in creating this. In one of Lizzie's Q&As she talks about vidcon and Lizzie runs into the real Hank Green (so meta). This whole show is beyond brilliant.
The saddest part is, I feel like Lydia's lines about the audience aren't wholly scripted. I feel like some people really made those comments in the comments section.
Rachel Kiley, the writer for Lydia's arc and all the Lydia Bennet vlogs, said said as much in the DVD commentaries, that she was using sentiments expressed in comments throughout the LBD run for that line. A writerly way to hold the mirror up to the viewers!
"I love him so much" Lydia say. Not I loved him. I love him. Because people have an amazing ability to go on loving those who hurt us. Poor, poor Lydia. She deserves only the best.
Rain Shoshana. Lydia may one day understand that indeed she loved the George Wickham she thought he was and not the George Wickham he actually was or turned out to be. It seems like a subtle and small difference, however when that understanding hits, it becomes huge. It is possible to always love and miss the person you thought s/he was, even after learning who the real person is.
I was to the point of whisper yelling to my phone "Don't you dare it is his fault, you in no way deserved any of this"every time Lydia tried to put the blame on herself. Book Wickham I had just a mild hatred for. LBD Wickham I want to chase him out pitch-fork and torches style I have that much hatred. Takes some damn good acting to make me feel like that.
+Kathryn Livingston I just read this book Winter by Marissa Meyer, which had this line "broken doesn't mean unfixable." I think that's pretty applicable to Lydia right now.
I wonder if there were actually any comments saying those things about Lydia. If there were... how heartless do you have to be? (No, I don't care if she's a fictional character.)
Yeah, people were saying that she was asking for it -- I seem to have written more than one angry rant about it on Tumblr. Michael Moretti's comment is actually a perfect example.
+Michael Moretti I *really* don't want to get into one of those famed UA-cam comment arguments, but WHY would you think that girls would "throw themselves at assholes" on purpose?? What girl - what person would get hurt on purpose??? Lydia got manipulated by Wickham because he was charming and evil. She didn't walk into that.
There probably was a minority of people who said shit like that (Michael Moretti for example) but I think those hypothetical comments were written to address two things: 1. To reveal the depth of Lydia's lack of self worth after George had emotionally abused her. 2. A meta-commentary on people's opinions about book!Lydia, which has always been pretty dismissive and victim-blaming.
It's hard to make me cry, and I've seen this before, but if the video had been longer I would be bawling. The actresses are so good at potraying these emotions realistically, and the whole Lydia situation hits close because I know people who are like Lydia in the sense they're easy to manipulate with love, and it terrifies me knowing they could turn out like this.
I didn't the first time because I just watched lizzies videos so this took me off guard, but then I went back and watched her videos then this, I feel her pain so much and its so breathtaking and oh my god
There's more to Lydia's character in the book, I believe. She is not just a plot device. She is like their mother and, looking back, their mother isn't as bad as we thought. Her mother was only securing her daughters' future since the estate doesn't pass to the females. Lydia has a way of 'securing' herself as well. She eloped with Wickham and actually, she manipulated him as much as he manipulated her. Lydia was calculating in the book. She pursued Wickham the way modern women pursue men now. She wasn't that bad, her mindset was just ahead of her time.
@@katrinamarice but from what I remember from the book, they were broke and Lydia ended up borrowing a lot of money from Lizzy and staying over at Lizzy & Darcy's a lot and just being an actual burden on her sisters... So like... How was that smart :$ It would've been what you're saying if they ended up in an unhappy marriage but she was rich. But he's not even rich. She was just dumb unfortunately.
@@shakibzz I read Pride and Prejudice yeaaaarrrrssss ago but from what i remember it ended with Darcy proposing ans Elizabeth trying to convince her father shes marrying for love and he agrees. I don't think they went into detail about what happened after anyone got married. But i could be wrong
@@SupergirlFaisa Looked up a summary: "Lydia writes to Elizabeth, saying that it is so wonderful she is so rich and hopes that, when Elizabeth has some spare time or nothing better to do, she will think of them (and give them money). Elizabeth decides she has many better things to do and writes a firm response to Lydia to put a stop to such requests. She does occasionally send some money, and Darcy helps Wickham out in his career-although obviously he's not welcome at Pemberley." I remember the book adding that Lydia and Wickham really weren't doing well, but yeah nvm they didn't come over but she kept asking for money ^
for a minute i forgot i was watching an adaptation of a jane austen novel. which is a serious testament to the acting in this series. and i didn't expect an adaptation of pride and prejudice to make me cry, but this breaks my heart.
Wow. This video just tackled textbook abusive relationships, victim-blaming, and how advocates should respond. This is so well done, and in my opinion the most important video in the entire series. Well done.
I can empathize so strongly with Lizzie here... people who hurt my baby sister never get to be on my good side ever again. I can't do much in the way of hurting them back beyond cutting them out of my life completely, but hey, it's something. Never underestimate the anger of a big sister.
I know, Thinking of people hurting my babygirl...they are just DEAD. It's also probably hard for her that I always look out for her but there are just things you NEVER EVER want your little sister to experience.
I think that goes without saying for all big sisters in the world. If someone were to so much as lay a finger on my baby brother, I'd personally make sure that they wished they were never born. And that's just a nice way of saying that.
My older sister is extremely protective of me. She's told me several times about that "big sis" instinct. Speaking as a youngest, as much as we bitch and moan about being smothered, it's indescribably comforting to know the eldests have our backs.
Nicole Chung I completely agree. I mess with and tease and argue with my little brother all the time but if someone tries to hurt him then they had better watch out. I will make sure that they regret it. I'm the only one allowed to do/say something even vaguely hurtful, and even then I always make sure he knows that I'm not serious.
So, the past few videos have made me tear up a little. But this? Full on sobbing, right along with Lydia. When she kept wondering why Wickham didn't love her, and when Lizzie kept on repeating 'I love you', I just... I can't. The acting is so phenomenal, it makes this so painful.
I loved Emma Approved. I did. But the reason that THIS is so much more beloved is because of scenes like this. There are television shows and movies in the theater that can't hit emotion home like LBD did.
There's a horrifying moment of clarity when you watch this again and realize what she actually meant (or let's say, my interpretation of what she meant) when she said, "If he's all bad, what does that say about me?" Because in these moments, Lydia believes that nobody truly loved and chose her in her life like George did. So if only someone like him could love her without criticizing who she was, she must be something so unworthy of real love. And that is really heartbreaking to watch her go through.
So before I watched the video I read the comments. This is my first time watching the series, and a majority of the commenters stated the episode made them cry. I got around seven minutes in, no tears, and then when Lydia broke down I did too. This show is GENIUS and I appreciate its existence. Thank you, Hank Green, for giving us something wonderful.
The acting in this video is just perfect and powerful. We've all been put to tears by this video. And honestly, I've watched this the 4th time now but it still makes me cry.
Me? Choked up? No...the air's just really dry in my room. VERY highly important and amazing message about abusive/manipulative relationships in this one. Like WOW. Blown away.
I thought Lydia was being overly dramatic after "The Argument" (not that Lizzie wasn't also in her bullheadedness), and I haven't changed my opinion. But ultimately, Lydia's life decisions couldn't, in any way, excuse Wickham's horrible and illegal actions. I hope he landed his sorry ass in jail, or dealt with a worse fate, off-screen! It's just sad that it took this major fiasco for everyone to start listening to each other - the sisterly bonding moment at the end is a tear jerker.
Did you watch Gigi's videos? You'll get to see atleast what happens on their end of it. Check the Pemberley Digital channel for the full playlist (if you haven't already watched it, that is - in which case, ignore this ;) )
Thanks for the pointer - I watched Gigi's webisodes right after I finished the LBD series, actually :) Too bad Wickham seemed to have wormed his way out of the situation. Hopefully, in their universe, he would get his comeuppance sooner than later.
Mia Foster Oh, of course I didn't know that these episodes were inspired by Jane Austen's entirely fictitious account on the Bennett family. Silly me, my apologies. It's a testament to Hank Green and his team's talent for putting together such a fun and convincing web series for the audience to enjoy :)
They left out the outro music...I applaud them for that. They're highlighting here that this is a MAJOR shift, and the outro music would've been really inappropriate
Oh my god. I am seeing such a different person than I did when we first saw Lydia. Like it almost seems like they made a new character and I would probably say that's bad storytelling if I didn't know how something like this affects people. In Lydia's videos I loved how I started to see a character be more than just the annoying little sister. She was compassionate and actually cared about people and it kills me to see her like this now. In every Pride and Prejudice adaptation Lydia is portrayed as the naive, vapid, and shallow little sister while we see her older sisters get all the love and held on a much higher pedestal. But I love seeing deeper into Lydia's character. It makes her more real
It gets me every time, too. I watched these with my younger sister, and it didn't affect her nearly as much. I guess that being an older sister makes this much more emotional because you have empathy for Lizzie.
+Cassidy Crosby Well, I'm not sure... I am the baby sister in my family but when I saw how Lizzie takes her sister on her arms and repeats she loves Lydia, I couldn't help but cry... I could feel the love Lizzie has to her sister and the words Lydia told were so echoing mine at time... it's a beautiful moment to see them so close in their sadness. Wish it could always been the same in real life.
Maybe it is just a measure of age, or how much of life you have experienced. I am not a sister at all, since I am male, and I don't have a sister, but I have lived through heart break and betrayal, and have witnessed friends and family do the same, and the realism in the script and acting of this episode just breaks me emotionally -- in a good, teary, way.
Okay, I'm kinda crying right now. My name is Lydia and I definitely feel like she does. Aside from the whole sex tape thing. I don't feel like I'm good enough for anyone, not even my friends. I pretty much hate myself. And when she was saying what she thought we would say "Lydia, get over yourself" and "Lydia, you're being dramatic," that kinda breaks my heart because that sounds like what I would say to myself.
+LadieLydKyd Oh, darling. We've never met, but please know that all of your feelings are valid. But feelings are not facts. You are enough, and you are worthy. You're right - Lydia does not deserve the hate, and neither do you. If it's any consolation, please know that you are heard and acknowledged, even if it's from some stranger on the internet. Love and light to you. I hope this comment finds you in a healthier emotional place than when you wrote the last one.
+LadieLydKyd I have no idea who you are but I just wanted you to know that if you said this to me in person i'd be compelled to give you a big hug and tell you that I hope you won't go through life feeling like this. you shouldn't. end of story. you're special and no one deserves to feel this way in life. i sympathize and empathize with you. sending all the love a random stranger from the internet can give.
UPDATE: I'm more like Lydia now. I trusted someone who was toxic to me and made me feel worse about myself. I told her I had trust issues and she said it wouldn't happen. Then she started being bitchy towards me and being overprotective of a friend we share. Sometimes, when we texted each other, she left me in a sort of anxiety attack and made me cry my eyes out. And the worst part is she still has power over the friend we shared even though we're in college and we're not even going to the same college. I just wish I could get closure for why she treated me like an emotional punching bag.
it's great that you're moving forward! Keep smiling and don't let others get to you, they have their own issues to deal with and they try to solve them by getting other people down. stupid douchy wickhams everywhere -.-
LadieLydKyd I've seen that happen to people around me. I have an idea as to how you must be feeling rn. You're a good human being, don't give up. Wickhams are horrible in every sense of the world, but you can do it! No matter what, you're stronger than what they could ever say to you or behind your back.
Almost two years later and this video still makes me cry. What mindbogglingly moving performances from these two. They deserve all the praise they've gotten and more. Truly chilling.
I've been in the same exact position as Lydia. i never thought that i ould relate to anyone about it, because i just felt like everything i did was pathetic, i let him take advantage becuase i just didnt want him to leave because i felt like he was all i had. but watching this and knowing that other people have been taken advantage like this, makes me realize that it wasn't me, it was him. and that kind of controlling only speaks volumes about him, not me. i feel like i could just wrap my arms around lydia, because she is not alone, and neither am i.
It's amazing how a fictional video blog based on a classic novel was able to help you find the relief/closure/solidarity you needed. This is what I love about media in general. When it deals with these kinds of issues, it can be so cathartic, and it can make you realize things about yourself and your life and your problems that you might never have realized otherwise.
This. Damn. Video. "I love you. Do you hear me? *I* love you." It doesn't matter how many times I watch this. I sob - THIS. This is what love really looks like at the end of the day.
Jane Austen created Lydia to be a stupid and selfish girl. Her life post-P&P was to be married to a guy who never wanted to marry her in the first place. She loved him for a time, only to realize and sink into indifference. However, she received the respectability that marriage gave a woman of that era. No matter what he did, she could be Mrs. Lydia Wickham. This shows a deeper side to Lydia and is a perfect modernization.
i have no words for how much i love Lydia's character. her character development... the things that she says when she's learned something... i just... this made me cry and seriously, the part where she says, "why didn't he love her?" that was... amazing.
I love Lydia. I specially love her character development. I love her and adore her. I relate too much with her, specially the way she gets along with Lizzie. I just, I'm not crying you're crying. :'(
Damn onion ninjas. That was good. Damn that was good. Even though I've watched this before, this episode still gets me. Wonderful performance from Ashley Clements and Mary Kate Wilkes. Bravo.
The part at 3:55 is incredibly well done (and incredibly painful) because some people actually were saying things like that to her, and despite the fact that I KNOW she is fictional, I still teared up and wanted to hug her and reassure her. 10/10, Mary Kate Wiles.
"I love you. Do you hear me? I love you! You are not alone!" This scene gets me every time. I choke up just thinking about it. It's so heartbreakingly beautiful. This moment when they both start to heal together. Kudos to both actresses.
In my opinion, the comments Lydia is referring to are the opinions people have expressed about the book version of her. In the book, Lydia is rather 2 dimentional, in my opinion, has no insight or awareness of how her actions affect her family. She's basically a silly, selfish airhead. I've often found that Austen is quite unsymetathetic to emotional characters (Lydia or Marianne Dashwood) while favouring the logical and rational characters (Lizzie or Elinor). This is what I like about the LBD, because they show Lydia's side of the story and give her a voice, showing that she is more than a stupid, unconsiderate girl - they take her out of the box Austen placed her in. :)
I think that's maybe because Book Lydia is a cautionary tale more than a character in development. She is presented in the story as a tool to teach young ladies and parents from that time about the lack of discipline when raising and spoiling a daughter. Book Kitty on the other hand is the improved Lydia. Once she is no longer under the influence of Lydia, and been subjected to a more stable and positive influence from her older and married sisters, she evolves as a character.
I dare you to watch this video without crying. I DARE YOU. Even knowing what happens and what's said, I can never last longer than Lizzie pulling Lydia in and talking over top of Lydia's "Why didn't he love me, Lizzie?" with "I LOVE YOU."
One of the many things about this episode that broke my heart was Lydia quoting Lizzie with those lines from episode 2 about being a stupid whore-y slut again. Not only did that set Lydia up to think that this situation was her fault, but Lizzie realized how much of what she said about Lydia, both on camera and to her face, was hurtful. Lydia listened, took those words to heart, and her self-esteem was steadily worn down, disguised by her partying and energetic nature. George noticed and used it to his advantage while manipulating her. We accept the love we think we deserve. Lydia wanted to be good enough for someone so badly, and was betrayed in one of the worst ways possible. She's going to have some major trust issues after this, but at least her relationship with her family is on the mend and becoming stronger. It's just a shame that it took something this drastic for that to happen, because it shouldn't have to be. Nobody deserves this, especially Lydia.
I'm a grown man, and have had a broken bone set with no anesthetic, and didn't cry. I've watched this three times over the last few years. Cry like a baby every time.
Is it just me or is it fantastic that Jane's dress is kinda broken? Because Jane has always been so fashion conscious (she works in fashion, for goodness' sake!) but this has affected them all so badly that Jane can't even mend her clothes.
I know this is like 3 years late after watching the show for the first time, but I just realized that Lydia and Wickham's relationship is not only taking from the P&P book but also from Sense and Sensibility, the betrayal felt from Lydia's part is similar to Marianne's when Willoughby left her. You could even say that Lizzie is like Elinor in the way that she comforts her sister. God, I love this series so much
Yeah, that's why I think it's kind of a mixture, cause like you said, Willoughby did love Marianne, but Lydia never got her heart broken in Pride and Prejudice, she remained naive to the very end, unlike this Lydia
This episode makes me cry every time I watch it holy crap. The acting is so good omg like when Lydia breaks down in her arms I just can't it's too good
While Lizzie's repeating over and over again "I love you" to Lydia, I'm reminded of the end of the 2005 version of P&P, you know, the scene where Darcy repeats over and over again "I love, love, love you" to Elizabeth? In the movie, the repetition makes the viewer see the desperate, complete love Darcy has for Elizabeth, and here it is the same. The same desperate, all-encompassing love Lizzie has for Lydia. This show deserved its Emmy, and is easily the best modern interpretation of Pride and Prejudice I have ever and will ever see.
You know, many people has fleshed out Lydia and made her sympathetic in modern retellings, Elizabeth is always the witty girl we want to be, Jane is the angelic one who we all adore, but Kitty and Mary are always left out....
This redeems Lydia so much for me. I detested and pitied her in the book. This is incredibly human, relatable, and relevant and my heart breaks for her. Such a brilliant job.
I'm re-watching LBD again and after all this time, this is still the video that makes me cry. The acting is so raw and powerful for this vulnerable moment and is so important. As an oldest sister, the tears come every time Lizzie tells Lydia "I love you" because in her time of need, that's what I would want my sister to know--that I have her back, and if I can help it, no one will hurt her beyond repair.
This was heart-touching, and the sisterly support portrayed here reminds me of my own sisters, how they are always there for me, no matter what. Kudos to the Lydia and Lizzie and also Jane here, they really portray the bond between sisters and being there for each other through all ups and downs beautifully. And reminds us how we can all use some support in bad times. And reminds us to stay far away from scumbags like Wickham, listening to people who have our best interest at heart instead, taking the helps when we need them and respecting ourselves.
I love how this is portrayed because even though there are so many problems in the book, the video series clearly shows this one as the most important one. And I love how it's in the end. The climax is rarely near the end.
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"Why didn't he love me Lizzie"
Fucking DAGGER TO THE HEART
"Everyone deserves tea."-Jane Bennet
A philosophy I live by.
Kitty Grimm definitely worth quoting
Uncle Iroh approves.
Was just about to say that myself! :)
I'm drinking tea watching this video
I have a shirt that says that
One of the things I love the most about this adaptation is how Lydia has a chance. She's a real person here, with good traits and bad traits, a person who makes mistakes. As much as I love the book I always feel bad for Lydia because she is such a shallow character there, and in the end she had her future ruined by her ingenuity and no chance of fixing it, and that's it.
Ana Almeida I kinda like how this is an interactive video, mainly because you watch the videos where they fallout an people comment down below that she was immature and petty and selfish and etc. it makes certain moments like 3:55 even more heartbreaking. It isn't just in the script actual people are saying that.
+Ana Almeida I love what they do with Lydia, but I'm not at all sure that she's "more of a person" than in the books. She's in a different situation. LBD!Lydia gets left out of her sisters' friendship and is regularly lectured and disparaged by her mother, so she's much more lonely and unsure of herself than novel!Lydia who is closest to her sister Kitty (and despite being younger is the one who dictates what they do), and she's her mother's unashamed favourite. In the books Lizzie is (If I recall) the only one who ever tries to prevent Lydia from doing something she wants to. Novel!Lydia is very sure of herself, while also being impulsive and even spoiled. Add to that that novel!Lydia's desire to go dancing and be the centre of attention would not have been considered quite as irresponsible as LBD!Lydia's desire to party and be the centre of attention, because LBD!Lydia is culturally expected to finish school and get a job (requiring her to be responsible), while novel!Lydia is culturally expected to get married. But the changes they made in LBD because of these different situations are definitely part of what make this such a great adaption.
exactly. In our college we used to theorize and many agree that the way Lydia and Mary were treated the way they were in the original was because of the tone deafness when it comes to writing about social commentary by Austen. Of course Mary is not too intellectual, she is finding her personal footing at 14, of course Lydia is not flighty, she is a 15 year old kid with none of his sisters and father taking her care. But Austen, in order to make her point about the discourse of marriage and partnership, consumerism and women education, never treated these two as more than social commentary where the audience were supposed to find a 20 year old adult Elizabeth's choices and way of thinking better than her kid sisters. That is why in the epilogue, there is not realization for Elizabeth that the way Lydia is begging for money with her unable to save money and a gambler husband is horrible and Mary is just ok now that she is not compared to others and hurray!
This series treated Lydia as a well rounded character and not a social commentary otherwise she wouldn't feel anything or would have disappeared with scant mention about what she feels from the series if we went by the real spirit of the original text.
I love the original books but it has it own flaws and i am glad Bernie Su tried to do better where it was needed.
I totally agree! I'm actually writing my term paper on this, for my major's seminar in uni! She's a much more compelling character here!
Also almost all modern day retellings don't have her end up with him - which i find fascinating. Modern society seems to have decided that Lydia deserves better.
+ahandfuloftime I think the difference is how Modern society works. For us, divorce isn't some mythical line we can never cross, nor do we have no choice but to put up with an asshole because society gives us no way out. But in 1800s, once Lydia became involved with Wickham, there was no way out. Anything other than marriage would have completely ruined her and her whole family making them social phariahs. Keep in mind, that unlike today, their world would have been quite smaller. Now, in most societies not only no one would be ostracized to that extent but even if there is a little backlash, you have the option of relocating.
Me Episode 1: Oh look, it's a funny modern AU of Pride and Prejudice.
Me Episode 87: bawling my eyes out
same
This is the most well-acted UA-cam video I've ever seen.
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This is still true two years later. The acting in most professionally budgeted TV shows and movies isn't as good as this episode.
4:47 when Lydia looks directly at the camera, the raw, exposed pain is the most powerful performance I can remember seeing onscreen. Incredible job.
right?!?!?!
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I hate seeing comments on this video saying Lydia needed this "wake up call" or something. I identify so deeply with Lydia in this series. Being the youngest sister, being the most flirtatious one, dating the most guys, making the most mistakes. And I dated a guy like George Wickham. A guy who isolated me from my friends and family, who made me feel like I didn't love him unless I did exactly what he asked. I was lucky enough to have gone to a seminar about "revenge porn" before meeting him, so when he asked me to send him topless pictures, I refused. But I don't doubt that when we broke up (when he left me, would be more accurate. Left me feeling like I failed as a girlfriend. Like I would never be loved again), he would've sent those pictures around.
So, having gone through this (on a lesser scale of course) I can attest that no one needs this. No one can be so flirtatious or promiscuous that they /deserve/ this. No one. And I don't think anyone has the right to insinuate that this was good for Lydia.
If you think Lydia needed this, then you're ostensibly saying that women deserve the abuse they suffer.
you're so right and I'm sorry you had to go through that
+Nina Richner I really hope you're doing okay now -- either happily single or with someone who treats you like a treasure instead of trash. Awful story. -SO- glad you went to that seminar and are away from him.
As for "needs to happen", definitely not. But if anyone can see a story like this and then gain an awareness to avoid these kinds of people, that is something good. No one needs this.
Watching Lydia breakdown like this and all her videos, it really shows that people can be strong and smart, but they still can get mixed up in horrible relationships and not know what's going on and the videos with her and George honestly terrify me.
Nobody deserves what Lydia almost got. I HATE the shame that girls have to endure for being flirtatious or just very sexually active. And however a girl chooses to act, being shamed for it, especially on a sexual standpoint, is disgusting and the shame lies entirely with the person who shames them. I have not hated George Wickham more than in this version.
Nobody deserves this, on that we agree. But we're not talking about shaming here--we're talking about a full-blown abusive relationship on multiple levels long before things ever became sexual. Certainly Lydia's past behavior made her an easy target, but the responsibility always lies with the abuser.
This particular series of events is particularly where a modern-day P&P does it works best, in my opinion. Whenever you have a story being told on or involving the Internet, you have to be willing to acknowledge that there is very much a dark side to this kind of technology, and that's exactly what we saw here.
Going back and rewatching this episode is hard - it's when I started to realize my own abusive relationship. Nothing so dramatic as a sex tape but...its almost been a year since I left him. Thank you LBD for helping me realize that relationship was toxic. Not sure where I'd be now if I hadn't left him.
Good on you for getting out of the relationship. I’m glad this show helped you! It’s such an amazing depiction of P&P. Hope you are still doing well 5 years later
Thats the problem, when we think of abusiv relationships we always think of the realy bad stuff, and tell ourself it is not that bad if it is not the worst even if it hurt someone realy realy bad and they might never be the same again . . . My best friends where an abusiv relationship, she realy did not mean to hurt her, but she did, terribly . . .
I know it's been close to a decade since you posted this, but I'm really glad you got out of there. I hope you've gone on to have a happy and fulfilling life, full of people who actually deserve your love, in the interim
@@samuelgiraudo8748 I super did! I'm much older, have a partner that loves and respects me and whom I love and respect, and I'm so happy with the people I love. It really truly does get better.
@@revolutionarygold That's great to hear! I'm super happy for you :)
"I thought that I was, for once,good enough for somebody."
Saddest but best line in the whole series.
Personally, I think the saddest line is "Why didn't he love me, Lizzie?"
amiablehacker That one definitely ranks up there too.
amiablehacker I know! Because I can relate
Sandra Korlson
Me too. How brief those moments are. It's hard to hate the people who give them to us, even when we know they were manipulative.
That along with Gigi's "I felt like I was needed for once"
ASHLEY IS TOO GOOD AT ACTING
LAURA IS SO WONDERFUL
AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON MARY KATE
I CANNOT WITH THIS CAST
I mean this is piece of art, In ordinary tv shows, you do not have such a level of acting and I think ther this was way way cheaper (I guess)
So yeah, everybody deserves en Emmy for this and Ashley, Laura and Mary Kate deserve Oscar for this performance...
"You don't deserve awful things because you trusted someone when no one else was around."
I am so freaking glad they didn't play the outro music. Very wise decision by the producers. That would've totally killed the moment caused by the fantastic and heartbreaking heart to heart done by these two brilliant actresses and the wonderful writers.
when she just kept saying "i love you" and there was no music at the end. Wow. probably the best episode.
I would have flipped if they played the happy music after that... so happy they didn’t.
@@8114梦见 i broke
The "why doesn't he love me Lizzie?" makes me sob every time
+Keyziahah Long same oh my god. like i've rewatched this series so many times but that one line is all it takes to break me down into an emotional coma
@@vacantgodling i broke when she did
and Lizzie telling her SHE loves her makes me sob harder
I am crying for over an hour now and I had to stop the video there cause as terrible as the whole thing is, thats even worse
"He's not a monster... He's, em... I don't know what he is."
Tall ?
Not now. Out.
+Léa Fréville Oh my gosh! perfect!
Ahahah oh my gosh, you had me laugh while 5 seconds ago I was crying! I think you are my new favorite person in the world...
To be fair, I kind of needed that.
The phrase you're looking for, I believe, is garbage person.
Mary
Kate
Wiles
That is all
Give her an award.
"How could I have never told Lydia that I love her? Just as she is? Exasperating, caring, crazy, wonderful, all of it. What the hell kind of sister does that make me?" --The Secret Diary of Lizzie Bennet
;~;
Also, this is still possibly my favorite episode.
That's honestly the saddest part of the book IMO since they don't replay this scene again in the book
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She did not let him film that. He scared her and forced her into doing that. If this was a case of asking if it would be okay, discussing it for a while, and giving her time to think about it, that would be fine.
mysteryperson1976 Yes. Coercion is never consent.
And even if she had consented to be filmed, she didn’t consent to it being posted for the internet to see.
It’s shocking how many men don’t understand that “no” means “convince me”.
@@melmao878 I think you made an unfortunate typo
@@jaceyjacobs4013 I admit my grammar and punctuation is a tad rusty in that comment. However, i haven’t picked up on the “unfortunate typo”.
@@melmao878 you said that "men don't understand that "no" means "convince me." I think you meant that "no does *not* mean convince me".
This is one of the most well-acted and fascinating portrayals of P&P I've seen. Sure, what both parties in the series did was wrong, but I feel like there's more closure within this story than in the original novel. Watching this, I think that this Lydia is almost a different character; Lydia didn't ever expose any hurt/guilty feelings openly within Austen's novel, she was more haughty and prideful that she "won" in marrying before her other sisters. The original P&P novel, however, was written during a time when children were almost "sold off" in marriage and relationships as cattle to benefit the parents, and that was one of P&P's many messages.
Did Tom and/or Hank Green help in creating this? If so, this video feels very in their "style"; they give closure to several subjects about which they probably were curious about when they first read P&P, and, in doing so, give P&P that beautiful, heart-wrenching verisimilitude (Darcy-ism!) that we all love in Green's novels!
Yeah, I think it was Hanks idea, or he helped fund it or something...
+Noelle M
In P&P Lydia was a rather one-dimensional character.
When LBD starts it portrays her in such a manner, but as the story progresses, Lydia becomes a fully-fledged character. So, this goes way beyond source material.
And yes, this episode is very powerful.
The best of what I've seen thus far (I'm watching continuously from the beginning for the first time).
+Noelle M Hank had a major role in creating this. In one of Lizzie's Q&As she talks about vidcon and Lizzie runs into the real Hank Green (so meta). This whole show is beyond brilliant.
If you read the description, it shows that Hank Green is the executive producer
I don't think John Green could ever write something this good.
The saddest part is, I feel like Lydia's lines about the audience aren't wholly scripted. I feel like some people really made those comments in the comments section.
Rachel Kiley, the writer for Lydia's arc and all the Lydia Bennet vlogs, said said as much in the DVD commentaries, that she was using sentiments expressed in comments throughout the LBD run for that line. A writerly way to hold the mirror up to the viewers!
"I love him so much" Lydia say. Not I loved him. I love him. Because people have an amazing ability to go on loving those who hurt us. Poor, poor Lydia. She deserves only the best.
Rain Shoshana. Lydia may one day understand that indeed she loved the George Wickham she thought he was and not the George Wickham he actually was or turned out to be. It seems like a subtle and small difference, however when that understanding hits, it becomes huge. It is possible to always love and miss the person you thought s/he was, even after learning who the real person is.
I was to the point of whisper yelling to my phone "Don't you dare it is his fault, you in no way deserved any of this"every time Lydia tried to put the blame on herself. Book Wickham I had just a mild hatred for. LBD Wickham I want to chase him out pitch-fork and torches style I have that much hatred. Takes some damn good acting to make me feel like that.
I feel the exact same way
Agreed.
God, I was holding it in so well until the end. When Lizzie started saying I love you I was a goner
i broke when she did
Lydia looks absolutely destroyed. Wickham destroyed her and everything that made Lydia Lydia. I hate him so much right now.
Ashley L Not destroyed... Broken but still good. From here she can examine and grow and hopefully have a normal relationship with her sister again.
+Kathryn Livingston I just read this book Winter by Marissa Meyer, which had this line "broken doesn't mean unfixable." I think that's pretty applicable to Lydia right now.
I wonder if there were actually any comments saying those things about Lydia. If there were... how heartless do you have to be? (No, I don't care if she's a fictional character.)
Way to blame the victims!
Yeah, people were saying that she was asking for it -- I seem to have written more than one angry rant about it on Tumblr. Michael Moretti's comment is actually a perfect example.
Yeah back when these were airing the comments on Lydia's videos were pretty rough.
+Michael Moretti I *really* don't want to get into one of those famed UA-cam comment arguments, but WHY would you think that girls would "throw themselves at assholes" on purpose?? What girl - what person would get hurt on purpose??? Lydia got manipulated by Wickham because he was charming and evil. She didn't walk into that.
There probably was a minority of people who said shit like that (Michael Moretti for example) but I think those hypothetical comments were written to address two things:
1. To reveal the depth of Lydia's lack of self worth after George had emotionally abused her.
2. A meta-commentary on people's opinions about book!Lydia, which has always been pretty dismissive and victim-blaming.
Lydia: "I let him film that."
Gigi: "And I let him- he moved in with me."
THE PARALLELS! 😭😭😭
He was good at convincing girls that it was their fault, wasn't he? Hey everyone, this is not how a real man acts.
@@barabi51 A master, narcissistic manipulator!
This is full-on seven years later and I am still IN TEARS watching this.
Most. Powerful. Episode. Ever.
Mary Kate and Ashley did such a great job, what amazing acting! I'm tearing up here.
ummm this Hank Green work and their no Mary Kate and Ashley here
Emily Welch Those are the actresses' names-Mary Kate Wiles is Lydia, and Ashley Clements is Lizzie.
tearing up?? oh yeah I do that sometimes. *FRANTICALLY MOPS AT TEARS STREAMING FROM MY FACE*
@@melodysmith3147 me to and sobbing
"catalogue a car crash" is such a good line. Sometimes I forget how superb the writing is for this series.
And it also shows how smart is Lydia, contrary to her party girl image. She’s just as clever as her sisters, just younger and misguided
Re-watching. I can't remember if I cried the first time I saw this one. Did this time though.
haha I said the same thing just a few seconds before
I cry every single time I watch episodes 86,87 and 88. It's just...THE ACTING!!!
It's hard to make me cry, and I've seen this before, but if the video had been longer I would be bawling. The actresses are so good at potraying these emotions realistically, and the whole Lydia situation hits close because I know people who are like Lydia in the sense they're easy to manipulate with love, and it terrifies me knowing they could turn out like this.
I didn't the first time because I just watched lizzies videos so this took me off guard, but then I went back and watched her videos then this, I feel her pain so much and its so breathtaking and oh my god
i didnt the first time this time i did
Dare I say this, but I think the writers wrote Lydia better than Jane Austen did.
Beyond a doubt. This Lydia, for all her annoying quirks, is completely lovable. Lydia in the Jane Austen novel is basically just a plot device.
There's more to Lydia's character in the book, I believe. She is not just a plot device. She is like their mother and, looking back, their mother isn't as bad as we thought. Her mother was only securing her daughters' future since the estate doesn't pass to the females. Lydia has a way of 'securing' herself as well. She eloped with Wickham and actually, she manipulated him as much as he manipulated her. Lydia was calculating in the book. She pursued Wickham the way modern women pursue men now. She wasn't that bad, her mindset was just ahead of her time.
@@katrinamarice but from what I remember from the book, they were broke and Lydia ended up borrowing a lot of money from Lizzy and staying over at Lizzy & Darcy's a lot and just being an actual burden on her sisters...
So like... How was that smart :$
It would've been what you're saying if they ended up in an unhappy marriage but she was rich. But he's not even rich. She was just dumb unfortunately.
@@shakibzz I read Pride and Prejudice yeaaaarrrrssss ago but from what i remember it ended with Darcy proposing ans Elizabeth trying to convince her father shes marrying for love and he agrees. I don't think they went into detail about what happened after anyone got married. But i could be wrong
@@SupergirlFaisa
Looked up a summary:
"Lydia writes to Elizabeth, saying that it is so wonderful she is so rich and hopes that, when Elizabeth has some spare time or nothing better to do, she will think of them (and give them money).
Elizabeth decides she has many better things to do and writes a firm response to Lydia to put a stop to such requests. She does occasionally send some money, and Darcy helps Wickham out in his career-although obviously he's not welcome at Pemberley."
I remember the book adding that Lydia and Wickham really weren't doing well, but yeah nvm they didn't come over but she kept asking for money ^
for a minute i forgot i was watching an adaptation of a jane austen novel. which is a serious testament to the acting in this series. and i didn't expect an adaptation of pride and prejudice to make me cry, but this breaks my heart.
"Everybody deserves tea."
Well said, Jane. Well said. *billions of tea drinkers around the world raise their cups/mugs/barrels of tea*
It a nice link back to the books an how they are set in England and when anything goes wrong over her we say shall I put the kettle on
I heard thatine and it reminded me that I was wanting a cup of tea! Lol
Wow. This video just tackled textbook abusive relationships, victim-blaming, and how advocates should respond. This is so well done, and in my opinion the most important video in the entire series. Well done.
Note to self: don't put on a full face of makeup and then rewatch this video.
Katie Lakin Crying my eyes out right now and I'm so glad I don't have make up on.
Katie Lakin oh my god, this is making everyone crying. I thought I was the only one.
Or at least have some strong mascara on
@@2201rafaela i did to
@@luisatorchio6150 no i did to
I can empathize so strongly with Lizzie here... people who hurt my baby sister never get to be on my good side ever again. I can't do much in the way of hurting them back beyond cutting them out of my life completely, but hey, it's something.
Never underestimate the anger of a big sister.
I know, Thinking of people hurting my babygirl...they are just DEAD. It's also probably hard for her that I always look out for her but there are just things you NEVER EVER want your little sister to experience.
I think that goes without saying for all big sisters in the world. If someone were to so much as lay a finger on my baby brother, I'd personally make sure that they wished they were never born. And that's just a nice way of saying that.
My older sister is extremely protective of me. She's told me several times about that "big sis" instinct. Speaking as a youngest, as much as we bitch and moan about being smothered, it's indescribably comforting to know the eldests have our backs.
Nicole Chung I completely agree. I mess with and tease and argue with my little brother all the time but if someone tries to hurt him then they had better watch out. I will make sure that they regret it. I'm the only one allowed to do/say something even vaguely hurtful, and even then I always make sure he knows that I'm not serious.
that's right! if this happened to my little sister, wickham would be long dead, no matter how much my sister and fight
So, the past few videos have made me tear up a little. But this? Full on sobbing, right along with Lydia. When she kept wondering why Wickham didn't love her, and when Lizzie kept on repeating 'I love you', I just... I can't. The acting is so phenomenal, it makes this so painful.
janes made me cry this made me sob
I loved Emma Approved. I did. But the reason that THIS is so much more beloved is because of scenes like this. There are television shows and movies in the theater that can't hit emotion home like LBD did.
I love EA mainly for the chemistry between Emma & Knightley.
There's a horrifying moment of clarity when you watch this again and realize what she actually meant (or let's say, my interpretation of what she meant) when she said, "If he's all bad, what does that say about me?" Because in these moments, Lydia believes that nobody truly loved and chose her in her life like George did. So if only someone like him could love her without criticizing who she was, she must be something so unworthy of real love. And that is really heartbreaking to watch her go through.
So before I watched the video I read the comments. This is my first time watching the series, and a majority of the commenters stated the episode made them cry. I got around seven minutes in, no tears, and then when Lydia broke down I did too. This show is GENIUS and I appreciate its existence.
Thank you, Hank Green, for giving us something wonderful.
I AM CRYING SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
@@sammiephilp2637 i just did
IS THERE A SHIRT THAT SAYS "EVERYONE DESERVES TEA" BECAUSE I DESERVE THAT SHIRT.
Shy Galadriel I was in no way prepared for the rest of this episode.
Shy Galadriel There are mugs, that say it (dftba.com) so you can drink tea out of a mug that says E.D.T.
The acting in this video is just perfect and powerful. We've all been put to tears by this video. And honestly, I've watched this the 4th time now but it still makes me cry.
Me? Choked up? No...the air's just really dry in my room. VERY highly important and amazing message about abusive/manipulative relationships in this one. Like WOW. Blown away.
"Everyone deserves tea." ~Jane
I thought Lydia was being overly dramatic after "The Argument" (not that Lizzie wasn't also in her bullheadedness), and I haven't changed my opinion. But ultimately, Lydia's life decisions couldn't, in any way, excuse Wickham's horrible and illegal actions. I hope he landed his sorry ass in jail, or dealt with a worse fate, off-screen! It's just sad that it took this major fiasco for everyone to start listening to each other - the sisterly bonding moment at the end is a tear jerker.
Did you watch Gigi's videos? You'll get to see atleast what happens on their end of it. Check the Pemberley Digital channel for the full playlist (if you haven't already watched it, that is - in which case, ignore this ;) )
Thanks for the pointer - I watched Gigi's webisodes right after I finished the LBD series, actually :) Too bad Wickham seemed to have wormed his way out of the situation. Hopefully, in their universe, he would get his comeuppance sooner than later.
Sorry but you do know this story line is made up
Mia Foster Oh, of course I didn't know that these episodes were inspired by Jane Austen's entirely fictitious account on the Bennett family. Silly me, my apologies. It's a testament to Hank Green and his team's talent for putting together such a fun and convincing web series for the audience to enjoy :)
They left out the outro music...I applaud them for that. They're highlighting here that this is a MAJOR shift, and the outro music would've been really inappropriate
Oh my god. I am seeing such a different person than I did when we first saw Lydia. Like it almost seems like they made a new character and I would probably say that's bad storytelling if I didn't know how something like this affects people. In Lydia's videos I loved how I started to see a character be more than just the annoying little sister. She was compassionate and actually cared about people and it kills me to see her like this now.
In every Pride and Prejudice adaptation Lydia is portrayed as the naive, vapid, and shallow little sister while we see her older sisters get all the love and held on a much higher pedestal. But I love seeing deeper into Lydia's character. It makes her more real
Watching this again almost four years later and STILL legitimately weeping. Absolutely spectacular.
IaMnOdEcOy 12:30 in the morning and still crying
Wow...you guys struck a chord much different than the original series with this storyline. Trying to keep it together over here being an older sister.
It gets me every time, too. I watched these with my younger sister, and it didn't affect her nearly as much. I guess that being an older sister makes this much more emotional because you have empathy for Lizzie.
+Cassidy Crosby Well, I'm not sure... I am the baby sister in my family but when I saw how Lizzie takes her sister on her arms and repeats she loves Lydia, I couldn't help but cry... I could feel the love Lizzie has to her sister and the words Lydia told were so echoing mine at time... it's a beautiful moment to see them so close in their sadness. Wish it could always been the same in real life.
Exactly!
Maybe it is just a measure of age, or how much of life you have experienced. I am not a sister at all, since I am male, and I don't have a sister, but I have lived through heart break and betrayal, and have witnessed friends and family do the same, and the realism in the script and acting of this episode just breaks me emotionally -- in a good, teary, way.
Okay, I'm kinda crying right now. My name is Lydia and I definitely feel like she does. Aside from the whole sex tape thing. I don't feel like I'm good enough for anyone, not even my friends. I pretty much hate myself.
And when she was saying what she thought we would say "Lydia, get over yourself" and "Lydia, you're being dramatic," that kinda breaks my heart because that sounds like what I would say to myself.
+LadieLydKyd Oh, darling. We've never met, but please know that all of your feelings are valid. But feelings are not facts.
You are enough, and you are worthy. You're right - Lydia does not deserve the hate, and neither do you.
If it's any consolation, please know that you are heard and acknowledged, even if it's from some stranger on the internet.
Love and light to you. I hope this comment finds you in a healthier emotional place than when you wrote the last one.
+LadieLydKyd I have no idea who you are but I just wanted you to know that if you said this to me in person i'd be compelled to give you a big hug and tell you that I hope you won't go through life feeling like this. you shouldn't. end of story. you're special and no one deserves to feel this way in life. i sympathize and empathize with you. sending all the love a random stranger from the internet can give.
UPDATE: I'm more like Lydia now. I trusted someone who was toxic to me and made me feel worse about myself. I told her I had trust issues and she said it wouldn't happen. Then she started being bitchy towards me and being overprotective of a friend we share. Sometimes, when we texted each other, she left me in a sort of anxiety attack and made me cry my eyes out. And the worst part is she still has power over the friend we shared even though we're in college and we're not even going to the same college. I just wish I could get closure for why she treated me like an emotional punching bag.
it's great that you're moving forward! Keep smiling and don't let others get to you, they have their own issues to deal with and they try to solve them by getting other people down. stupid douchy wickhams everywhere -.-
LadieLydKyd I've seen that happen to people around me. I have an idea as to how you must be feeling rn. You're a good human being, don't give up. Wickhams are horrible in every sense of the world, but you can do it! No matter what, you're stronger than what they could ever say to you or behind your back.
Almost two years later and this video still makes me cry. What mindbogglingly moving performances from these two. They deserve all the praise they've gotten and more. Truly chilling.
This is proof of why this won an EMMY!
Every time I hear "You are not alone" at the end all I can think of is
"Cause baby you're not alone, cause you here with me..." from AVPM
If I could like this more than once i would. many, many times
2 years later and this still makes me cry
Anyone else watching this and feeling like the're a terrible and unsupportive sister?
It's 2017 and I'm still obsessed with this series.
I've been in the same exact position as Lydia. i never thought that i ould relate to anyone about it, because i just felt like everything i did was pathetic, i let him take advantage becuase i just didnt want him to leave because i felt like he was all i had. but watching this and knowing that other people have been taken advantage like this, makes me realize that it wasn't me, it was him. and that kind of controlling only speaks volumes about him, not me. i feel like i could just wrap my arms around lydia, because she is not alone, and neither am i.
I believe it wasn't your fault. I hope you believe that now too...
It's amazing how a fictional video blog based on a classic novel was able to help you find the relief/closure/solidarity you needed. This is what I love about media in general. When it deals with these kinds of issues, it can be so cathartic, and it can make you realize things about yourself and your life and your problems that you might never have realized otherwise.
So true and You're not. ❤️❤️
This. Damn. Video. "I love you. Do you hear me? *I* love you." It doesn't matter how many times I watch this. I sob - THIS. This is what love really looks like at the end of the day.
Jane Austen created Lydia to be a stupid and selfish girl. Her life post-P&P was to be married to a guy who never wanted to marry her in the first place. She loved him for a time, only to realize and sink into indifference. However, she received the respectability that marriage gave a woman of that era. No matter what he did, she could be Mrs. Lydia Wickham. This shows a deeper side to Lydia and is a perfect modernization.
Tears. Actual tears. :'( And I've seen this before!
I cry every time.
I started crying before it began.
All the tears and all the feels
i have no words for how much i love Lydia's character. her character development... the things that she says when she's learned something... i just... this made me cry and seriously, the part where she says, "why didn't he love her?" that was... amazing.
First time watching, i cried. Second time watching, I cried. That's how good this is.
Me too, seriosuly Ashely at the beginning of the video made me cry instantly
In 2022, this is still one of the best modern adaptations and this is the most heartbreaking episode
I love Lydia. I specially love her character development. I love her and adore her. I relate too much with her, specially the way she gets along with Lizzie. I just, I'm not crying you're crying. :'(
Damn onion ninjas. That was good. Damn that was good. Even though I've watched this before, this episode still gets me. Wonderful performance from Ashley Clements and Mary Kate Wilkes. Bravo.
Is there, like, a UA-cam Oscars?
They did win a Streamy Award, that's kind of the UA-cam Oscars ;)
The show did win an Emmy. :)
the best part about this, though, is that there is NO exit music. it makes it that much stronger.
right off the bat : tears
The part at 3:55 is incredibly well done (and incredibly painful) because some people actually were saying things like that to her, and despite the fact that I KNOW she is fictional, I still teared up and wanted to hug her and reassure her. 10/10, Mary Kate Wiles.
Everyone deserves tea! Jane, you are a girl after my own heart.
"Everyone deserves tea." Uncle Iroh approves of this message. ^_^
So this, then the Red Wedding in June. Then Ozymandias in September. What a year.
GOT IS life. GOT IS love
***** YASSSSSSSS! Valar Doeharis.
*whispers* _the books were better_
"I love you. Do you hear me? I love you! You are not alone!"
This scene gets me every time. I choke up just thinking about it. It's so heartbreakingly beautiful. This moment when they both start to heal together. Kudos to both actresses.
If you ever just need a quick cry I swear this episode does the trick every single time.
Just saying, six months later and you wanna guess why there are tears everywhere? Not allergies.
I miss my sisters.
re-watching and crying harder than the first time
2018 update: still fucking crying
When Lizzie said "*I* love you" that's when I completely LOST it. Like I was tearing up when Lydia broke down but I LOST it after that. Great acting.
In my opinion, the comments Lydia is referring to are the opinions people have expressed about the book version of her. In the book, Lydia is rather 2 dimentional, in my opinion, has no insight or awareness of how her actions affect her family. She's basically a silly, selfish airhead.
I've often found that Austen is quite unsymetathetic to emotional characters (Lydia or Marianne Dashwood) while favouring the logical and rational characters (Lizzie or Elinor).
This is what I like about the LBD, because they show Lydia's side of the story and give her a voice, showing that she is more than a stupid, unconsiderate girl - they take her out of the box Austen placed her in. :)
I think that's maybe because Book Lydia is a cautionary tale more than a character in development. She is presented in the story as a tool to teach young ladies and parents from that time about the lack of discipline when raising and spoiling a daughter. Book Kitty on the other hand is the improved Lydia. Once she is no longer under the influence of Lydia, and been subjected to a more stable and positive influence from her older and married sisters, she evolves as a character.
So basically what they did was to fuse both book characters , Lydia and Kitty, to create this three dimensional version of Lydia.
I dare you to watch this video without crying. I DARE YOU. Even knowing what happens and what's said, I can never last longer than Lizzie pulling Lydia in and talking over top of Lydia's "Why didn't he love me, Lizzie?" with "I LOVE YOU."
The way Lydia says "Why didn't he love me, Lizzie?" gets me every time. Like even though she knows he is a monster she still wants his approval.
One of the many things about this episode that broke my heart was Lydia quoting Lizzie with those lines from episode 2 about being a stupid whore-y slut again. Not only did that set Lydia up to think that this situation was her fault, but Lizzie realized how much of what she said about Lydia, both on camera and to her face, was hurtful. Lydia listened, took those words to heart, and her self-esteem was steadily worn down, disguised by her partying and energetic nature. George noticed and used it to his advantage while manipulating her.
We accept the love we think we deserve. Lydia wanted to be good enough for someone so badly, and was betrayed in one of the worst ways possible. She's going to have some major trust issues after this, but at least her relationship with her family is on the mend and becoming stronger. It's just a shame that it took something this drastic for that to happen, because it shouldn't have to be. Nobody deserves this, especially Lydia.
“We accept the love we think we deserve”
What a correct, perceptive insight.
Why can I not stop sobbing?
I'm a grown man, and have had a broken bone set with no anesthetic, and didn't cry.
I've watched this three times over the last few years.
Cry like a baby every time.
Is it just me or is it fantastic that Jane's dress is kinda broken? Because Jane has always been so fashion conscious (she works in fashion, for goodness' sake!) but this has affected them all so badly that Jane can't even mend her clothes.
I know this is like 3 years late after watching the show for the first time, but I just realized that Lydia and Wickham's relationship is not only taking from the P&P book but also from Sense and Sensibility, the betrayal felt from Lydia's part is similar to Marianne's when Willoughby left her. You could even say that Lizzie is like Elinor in the way that she comforts her sister. God, I love this series so much
Yeah, that's why I think it's kind of a mixture, cause like you said, Willoughby did love Marianne, but Lydia never got her heart broken in Pride and Prejudice, she remained naive to the very end, unlike this Lydia
That ending tho.... tears... tears errywhere
lik dis if u cry evrytime
i didnt the first time but did this time
This episode makes me cry every time I watch it holy crap. The acting is so good omg like when Lydia breaks down in her arms I just can't it's too good
As someone with a little sister whom I love dearly, this episode is impossible to watch dry-eyed.
Lydia and George Wickham is such a perfect portrayal of what an emotionally abusive and manipulative relationship is.
While Lizzie's repeating over and over again "I love you" to Lydia, I'm reminded of the end of the 2005 version of P&P, you know, the scene where Darcy repeats over and over again "I love, love, love you" to Elizabeth? In the movie, the repetition makes the viewer see the desperate, complete love Darcy has for Elizabeth, and here it is the same. The same desperate, all-encompassing love Lizzie has for Lydia. This show deserved its Emmy, and is easily the best modern interpretation of Pride and Prejudice I have ever and will ever see.
STUPID ACTRESSES MAKING ME FEEL THINGS FOR FICTIONAL PEOPLE I'M CRYING
You know, many people has fleshed out Lydia and made her sympathetic in modern retellings, Elizabeth is always the witty girl we want to be, Jane is the angelic one who we all adore, but Kitty and Mary are always left out....
This Lydia is so much more likeable than the one in the book and the movies. And with this I mean especially the "new" Lydia.
I rewatched this to see if it still made me cry. I teared up the moment Lydia came on.
This redeems Lydia so much for me. I detested and pitied her in the book. This is incredibly human, relatable, and relevant and my heart breaks for her. Such a brilliant job.
I'm re-watching LBD again and after all this time, this is still the video that makes me cry. The acting is so raw and powerful for this vulnerable moment and is so important. As an oldest sister, the tears come every time Lizzie tells Lydia "I love you" because in her time of need, that's what I would want my sister to know--that I have her back, and if I can help it, no one will hurt her beyond repair.
Never a dry eye...
This was heart-touching, and the sisterly support portrayed here reminds me of my own sisters, how they are always there for me, no matter what. Kudos to the Lydia and Lizzie and also Jane here, they really portray the bond between sisters and being there for each other through all ups and downs beautifully. And reminds us how we can all use some support in bad times. And reminds us to stay far away from scumbags like Wickham, listening to people who have our best interest at heart instead, taking the helps when we need them and respecting ourselves.
I love how this is portrayed because even though there are so many problems in the book, the video series clearly shows this one as the most important one. And I love how it's in the end. The climax is rarely near the end.
God damnit Mary Kate Wiles, you genuinely are the star of the whole web series. You are such an amazing actress and your Lydia is fantastic.