The most excited for a release I have been in awhile. The quality of Osprey mixed with the old miniatures photos. and art work, and the easy fun game play looks like a winner to me.
Looks interesting. The thing I found disappointing with One Page Rules and to a lesser extent Starbreach is that the factions were pretty much legally distinct versions of 40K armies. This looks like it's truly model agnostic.
I love Osprey i was introduce too them last year and never looked back, Oathmark and Firefight by mantic are my go to games so far. Literally forgotten about GW these days
Rumors of Dragon rampant 2nd edition?? YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!! Ever since i heard about the lion rampant 2nd edition i’ve been hoping they will do a Dragon rampant 2ND. Dragon is a personal favorite of mine and everyone i’ve played it with so far has enjoyed it. I’ve been looking forward to Xenos rampant since i heard about it, and from your review it looks like it will be a hoot to play! And looking forward to some lets plays!
I'm really looking forward to this - Firefight from Mantic has been scratching my 'large skirmish' itch (and led me to paint up 4 really cool armies), and One Page Rules has been tempting me to use my old WH40K stuff, but this game has been on my pre-order list for over a year and will get a lot of games with my group - and even better, I get to use all of the above models plus loads of other bits and bobs picked up over the years! Looking forward to seeing you play a game.
Wasn't sure about this version of 'RAMPANT', but it has tons of potential. I have hundreds of miniatures ready to go for this and some languishing models and armies yet to be 'deployed' that would be fun to paint up just for this game which is how I like to do it anyway
Thanks for the review. I'm specifically looking at this as a way to play with my Infinity models since the local scene *hates* the actual rules for Infinity.
Well, that just made me pre-order the book. Big fan of both Dragon and Lion Rampant, this seems to do enough to make it seem like a different game, but also retains a lot of the same to make the game familiar. Dragon Rampant 2nd edition... interesting little nugget you mentioned there.
I'm a big fan of Lion Rampant, played it a whole lot. I also have SO MANY 15mm sci-fi armies, and have still not found an ideal 15mm sci-fi ruleset. So I am very excited for this game.
i realise you were just going over it quickly....but you dont get a free action and another action, its just that you dont have to test for a free action ....its automatic without rolling any dice. You still only get one action. i have them pre-ordered.
So my master plan is to run a grand campaign that uses Stargrave for RPG like elements for player characters and Xenos Rampant for the larger cinematic engagements.
I’ve preordered xenos rampant. Can’t wait! Will be using it to play with my Star Wars legion armies. Loved it’s pre-curser rules - Lions & Dragons Rampant and particularly Pikeman’s lament.
I’m hoping I can get some friends into this from my local gaming group. Gives me a reason to use my Warzone minis as something aside from guardsmen in 40k.
I'll be interesting to see this played, I tried Dragon Rampant and it just wasn't my thing for fantasy but it had potential. Also, I just got like 80 cowboy minis from Zombicide: Undead or Alive, so allow me to make a rando request for new Wild West content if there's any possible.
This ruleset lends itself well to a load of different scenarios. Ash, how about the following theme? One I am to explore myself with Xenos Rampant: The Unification Wars of Terra, using the Post-Apocalypse genre as a base setting. Different Techno Barbarian Warlords going up against eachother, while a certain special one is developing elite-infantry super soldiers. Would be neat to see(and do myself) a batrep of stuff like the Battle of Gaduare(even if that one was just.. horridly one sided), made famous by the Last Church book.
I have! Im totally ripped between them but I lean more to XR. The biggest difference between the two is the fact that XR does not have absolutely set units, such as a battle brother will only allowed certain items for that model vs XR elite infantry (or heavy for a more horus heresy feel) you can design that unit with almost anything you want! To top it off XR scenerios are very much narrative focus, a lot of the fights will have each side fighting for certain objectives on a battlefield that may give one side a slight advantage. In the end they are both fun but I feel more for XR because im very much free to use anything I want in any way.
This seems to skirt a weird line between being a large page count ruleset with all its elements pre-defined and at the same time "do whatever you want" (through the cop-out of proxying anything as one of the pre defined elements). What would you say is the biggest value added in playing this over, say, One Page Rule?
I needed a little bit of clarification. Throughout the video you mentioned you could scale unit size up and down that you would just have to change one aspect of the character. For example I only like to play scrimmage games with a total of 5 to 10 miniatures on each squad. Can you build out how you would modify the units to meet those criteria?
Note this is from Dragon Rampant and the exact names might change, but the game mechanism is the same. You basically scale unit size with their strength points total. This is effectively the number of casualties a unit can take before it's defeated, though they will likely fail a courage(morale) test before that. So view strength as wounds for all practical purposes. A typical elite foot unit in Dragon Rampant would have 6 strength points and thus 6 wounds. That would be a unit 6 elite fighters. So If you wanted that to be 3 elite fighters, you would still have 6 strength but it would take 2 "wounds" to kill one model, or a unit of one powerful hero would have 6 "wounds". So the scaling isn't much more than just using wound counters and less models over using more models as actual wound counters and removing them each damage point. Effectively, it's just semantics and adapting to the models you have. Mechanically everything else about the unit would be the same, though they will often be easier to move and get into cover, being smaller. You could make big tough units, say ogres, the same way from other troop types, as normal troops have 12 strength, but are far easier to damage, with numbers accounting for their quality, so to speak.
I suspect that perhaps Osprey Games will avoid a new hardcover edition of Dragon Rampant in order not to compete with Oathmark, their other similarly themed hardcover product.
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames I enjoyed the video but, as a previous commenter mentioned, you've misunderstood what "Free" activations are. They are not additional activations, every unit only ever has 1 activation per turn. A "Free" activation simply indicates that the unit automatically passes that type of Activation Test. So, Heavy Infantry, for example, automatically pass activation tests for Shooting, but have to roll to Move or Attack. Elite units are unusual in that they automatically pass 2 different tests: Shoot and Attack. Most units have a single "Free" activation, while poor old Militia Rabble have to pass a test for all activations types (and will probably fail to do so!).
I already pre ordered the game, and I am really excited about it. This review was so lazy. It was clear he only skimmed the rules, got some things wrong, really just confused the heck out of some simple core concepts.
That depends entirely on you. You have 24 points to spend, and free rein to do so in a vast number of ways. Taken to extremes, it is perfectly possible to field 1 model as a single 24pt unit, or to field 240 models, as 24 1pt units - not that I'd recommend doing either of these 😂. The lovely thing about this ruleset is that you are free to field the models you love, and then craft the unit stats to match the models.
The most excited for a release I have been in awhile. The quality of Osprey mixed with the old miniatures photos. and art work, and the easy fun game play looks like a winner to me.
It's always good to see reviews of Osprey games.
This seems like I could use some Mutant Crawl Classic-esque minis. Excited
Looks interesting. The thing I found disappointing with One Page Rules and to a lesser extent Starbreach is that the factions were pretty much legally distinct versions of 40K armies. This looks like it's truly model agnostic.
VOR minis. Dig em out and play XR with em!
I love Osprey i was introduce too them last year and never looked back, Oathmark and Firefight by mantic are my go to games so far. Literally forgotten about GW these days
Not sure what the first Osprey game I ever played was but always excited to see a new one
Warzone models are coming out of storage!
the "human" armies would be perfectly build by Anvil Industries. So many options.
This is the review I was not expecting, but the one I’m most excited about
This feels like the game my Sedition Wars minis are getting used in.
...or my Helghast army?
...or my Warzone Imperials...
Thank you for this review. I've been very excited for Xenos Rampant. My old Brian Nelson Orks can continue rampaging across infinite galaxies.
This looks really promising. Interested to see a battle report. My 200 shambling Undead would definitely vote for a good ol´ Zombie Apocalypse.
Cant wait to see you Rogue Trader this game too!
Rumors of Dragon rampant 2nd edition?? YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!! Ever since i heard about the lion rampant 2nd edition i’ve been hoping they will do a Dragon rampant 2ND. Dragon is a personal favorite of mine and everyone i’ve played it with so far has enjoyed it.
I’ve been looking forward to Xenos rampant since i heard about it, and from your review it looks like it will be a hoot to play!
And looking forward to some lets plays!
I've been waiting for info on this for a long time! thanks!
Can't wait to get my copy! Thanks for this review!
I'm really looking forward to this - Firefight from Mantic has been scratching my 'large skirmish' itch (and led me to paint up 4 really cool armies), and One Page Rules has been tempting me to use my old WH40K stuff, but this game has been on my pre-order list for over a year and will get a lot of games with my group - and even better, I get to use all of the above models plus loads of other bits and bobs picked up over the years! Looking forward to seeing you play a game.
Very excited for this book, it's been a long time coming.
Love a good toolbox game, got this on preorder, hype to dig into it!
This looks pretty interesting, I'm definitely going to try it. Thanks for the great review Ash!
Wasn't sure about this version of 'RAMPANT', but it has tons of potential. I have hundreds of miniatures ready to go for this and some languishing models and armies yet to be 'deployed' that would be fun to paint up just for this game which is how I like to do it anyway
I'd love to play this game, I'm a sucker for any miniatures agnostic sci-fi game.
Thanks for the review. I'm specifically looking at this as a way to play with my Infinity models since the local scene *hates* the actual rules for Infinity.
Well, that just made me pre-order the book.
Big fan of both Dragon and Lion Rampant, this seems to do enough to make it seem like a different game, but also retains a lot of the same to make the game familiar.
Dragon Rampant 2nd edition... interesting little nugget you mentioned there.
I'm a big fan of Lion Rampant, played it a whole lot. I also have SO MANY 15mm sci-fi armies, and have still not found an ideal 15mm sci-fi ruleset. So I am very excited for this game.
Circling Back to prep for Xenos Rampant game in the near future. Thanks Ash!
I have a good bit of vehicles and mecha that I always wanted to use but couldn't find a ruleset for them. Now I no longer have that excuse!
i realise you were just going over it quickly....but you dont get a free action and another action, its just that you dont have to test for a free action ....its automatic without rolling any dice.
You still only get one action.
i have them pre-ordered.
Peer pressure strikes again. I have pre-ordered the book.
This looks really good!
I like Lion Rampant, could be fun this one!
Hopefully you get Jay to play with you 🤞🙏😁
OH, YEEEEEEAH! 💪
Definitely going to pick these up. Love Lion and Dragon Rampant so these are a no brainer. Opens so many possibilities.
I've been eyeballing this release. I don't have a whole lot of tabletop players where I am unfortunately.
I knew I wanted to buy something from Osprey this month.
Thanks for reminding me what it was.
Now I must buy all the catalog of Gates of Antares and Firefight :D
These rules can do everything!
This looks really good !
Dammit, now I want to buy one more game ...
edit : 28.5€ later. Can't wait to read/play this !
So my master plan is to run a grand campaign that uses Stargrave for RPG like elements for player characters and Xenos Rampant for the larger cinematic engagements.
I’ve preordered xenos rampant. Can’t wait! Will be using it to play with my Star Wars legion armies. Loved it’s pre-curser rules - Lions & Dragons Rampant and particularly Pikeman’s lament.
Oh my goodness this looks fun! I'm off to order figures. :P
I’m hoping I can get some friends into this from my local gaming group. Gives me a reason to use my Warzone minis as something aside from guardsmen in 40k.
I'll be interesting to see this played, I tried Dragon Rampant and it just wasn't my thing for fantasy but it had potential. Also, I just got like 80 cowboy minis from Zombicide: Undead or Alive, so allow me to make a rando request for new Wild West content if there's any possible.
Gotta try in the new year
It is such a flexible sytem that you porbablly use your old CMON Dark Ages figures
Nice quality
What about if you make a video with a top10 skirmish wargames? 😁
The Univrse needs you to doa batrep of these rules
Glad they committed to the alternating activation instead of "welp there goes your turn" from v1 of Lion, but where is Mr. Babbage?!
I'd love to see a demo game of this :)
This ruleset lends itself well to a load of different scenarios. Ash, how about the following theme? One I am to explore myself with Xenos Rampant:
The Unification Wars of Terra, using the Post-Apocalypse genre as a base setting. Different Techno Barbarian Warlords going up against eachother, while a certain special one is developing elite-infantry super soldiers.
Would be neat to see(and do myself) a batrep of stuff like the Battle of Gaduare(even if that one was just.. horridly one sided), made famous by the Last Church book.
We need a Batrep of this
I just switched from 40k to Grimdark Future and couldn't be happier. Has anyone play both GF and XR? Would love to hear comparison.
I have! Im totally ripped between them but I lean more to XR. The biggest difference between the two is the fact that XR does not have absolutely set units, such as a battle brother will only allowed certain items for that model vs XR elite infantry (or heavy for a more horus heresy feel) you can design that unit with almost anything you want!
To top it off XR scenerios are very much narrative focus, a lot of the fights will have each side fighting for certain objectives on a battlefield that may give one side a slight advantage. In the end they are both fun but I feel more for XR because im very much free to use anything I want in any way.
I might have missed it but does it mention in the book about changing scales to say 15mm
This seems to skirt a weird line between being a large page count ruleset with all its elements pre-defined and at the same time "do whatever you want" (through the cop-out of proxying anything as one of the pre defined elements). What would you say is the biggest value added in playing this over, say, One Page Rule?
No army lists trying to clone other games.
I'm kinda hoping for a batrep on this, there is so little on youtube of it :/
I needed a little bit of clarification. Throughout the video you mentioned you could scale unit size up and down that you would just have to change one aspect of the character. For example I only like to play scrimmage games with a total of 5 to 10 miniatures on each squad. Can you build out how you would modify the units to meet those criteria?
Note this is from Dragon Rampant and the exact names might change, but the game mechanism is the same.
You basically scale unit size with their strength points total. This is effectively the number of casualties a unit can take before it's defeated, though they will likely fail a courage(morale) test before that.
So view strength as wounds for all practical purposes.
A typical elite foot unit in Dragon Rampant would have 6 strength points and thus 6 wounds. That would be a unit 6 elite fighters. So If you wanted that to be 3 elite fighters, you would still have 6 strength but it would take 2 "wounds" to kill one model, or a unit of one powerful hero would have 6 "wounds". So the scaling isn't much more than just using wound counters and less models over using more models as actual wound counters and removing them each damage point.
Effectively, it's just semantics and adapting to the models you have. Mechanically everything else about the unit would be the same, though they will often be easier to move and get into cover, being smaller. You could make big tough units, say ogres, the same way from other troop types, as normal troops have 12 strength, but are far easier to damage, with numbers accounting for their quality, so to speak.
@@johnmiddleton4291 Really appreciate this!
This seems cool. Did you ever get it to the table?
I suspect that perhaps Osprey Games will avoid a new hardcover edition of Dragon Rampant in order not to compete with Oathmark, their other similarly themed hardcover product.
The reduced model stuff was already suggested on dragon rampant its not new to this one.
Osprey games comin for the games workshop players who are sick of games workshop, but not the armies they've spent thousands on building.
Ash, think you will do any batreps for this one?
It's on the works!
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames awesome! Can't wait!
@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames I enjoyed the video but, as a previous commenter mentioned, you've misunderstood what "Free" activations are. They are not additional activations, every unit only ever has 1 activation per turn. A "Free" activation simply indicates that the unit automatically passes that type of Activation Test. So, Heavy Infantry, for example, automatically pass activation tests for Shooting, but have to roll to Move or Attack. Elite units are unusual in that they automatically pass 2 different tests: Shoot and Attack. Most units have a single "Free" activation, while poor old Militia Rabble have to pass a test for all activations types (and will probably fail to do so!).
I already pre ordered the game, and I am really excited about it. This review was so lazy. It was clear he only skimmed the rules, got some things wrong, really just confused the heck out of some simple core concepts.
Can you do steampunk?!
how many miniatures would a regular sized army have?
That depends entirely on you. You have 24 points to spend, and free rein to do so in a vast number of ways. Taken to extremes, it is perfectly possible to field 1 model as a single 24pt unit, or to field 240 models, as 24 1pt units - not that I'd recommend doing either of these 😂. The lovely thing about this ruleset is that you are free to field the models you love, and then craft the unit stats to match the models.
How good for 40k models?