Installed a RAM AIR intake and this happened...

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  • Installed a RAM AIR intake and this happened...
    Installed a Ram Air intake manifold on the Tillotson 212-powered Doodlebug minibike to see if it would make any difference in performance. Did a 0 to 30 and Top speed run.
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  • @Ultimatrix117
    @Ultimatrix117 Рік тому +45

    I would definitely say Rich up the mixture and try again. All that air was really leaning it out

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +8

      Yes, I will do that. Im going to try again for top speed.

    • @raz1987a
      @raz1987a Рік тому +1

      Best to run a lil rich don't want to over hear the valves

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Рік тому

      ​@@raz1987a if retarding timing was an option ,that becomes a non-issue.
      Less fuel poured on a fire can't burn hotter than more fuel that's closer to the correct amount.

    • @raz1987a
      @raz1987a Рік тому

      @@MrTheHillfolk running rich has nothing to do with timing it's all in the carburetor and retarding timing is more for boasted application .. 28° is the known best timing for the Honda clones so youer reverse the timing key to retard the timing from 28°

    • @raz1987a
      @raz1987a Рік тому

      @@MrTheHillfolk that is all so not including adjusting the internal trimming of the camshaft.. kartworks twister is abut the only tool out there I know off that can do that

  • @diegomontoya1900
    @diegomontoya1900 Рік тому +10

    Love your new “science bike” series! Might as well give the community what they ask for, it’s great entertainment. Keep up the evolution of the channel, I’m having fun!

  • @pancudowny
    @pancudowny Рік тому +3

    A friend found some corrugated tubing and fabricated one on my 4-cyl truck, which drew from a hole in the lower air dam/chin spoiler, and connected directly to the factory air cleaner's intake snorkel. Can't say what difference it made on acceleration, but it certainly helped improve fuel efficiency... getting 25-mpg going 75-80MPH cruising down to Bowling Green, KY from Chicago. And this was with TBI and an automatic transmission!

  • @OoheavysackoO
    @OoheavysackoO Рік тому +6

    Love the empirical data, you are doing a great service to the minibike community. Couple suggestions, having worked with ram air on muscle cars. 1. use a 5 or 10:1 intake size inlet. 2. Put it as high as you can off the ground, you will suck up cig butts, tons of sand/dirt, and even small birds at times (not a joke, I've pulled multiple birds out of my ram air setup on a muscle car). You would be better served to put a pipe up to the handle bar with the biggest vacuum attachment that fits to catch the most air. Don't know if you re-jetted but I'd think that would needed.
    Thanks for all the info man.

  • @SDS-1
    @SDS-1 Рік тому +3

    Wahoooo thank you Mr. 66
    I'm curious about the jetting too. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Staleoreo
    @Staleoreo Рік тому +7

    I have an idea for a fun video. Try the long intake with the ram intake and the super long exhaust

  • @rachalhollier5679
    @rachalhollier5679 Рік тому +2

    I just love it!! It worked, made your bike even faster,I hope you do a jet change to match all that air coming in and show us the gains too.

  • @danwelshinger1136
    @danwelshinger1136 Рік тому +1

    We had a fun day. Thanks for the video let me know when when we are riding again, I am thinking Oatman Donkey town. Banger Bikes, Thanks

  • @scottwiley
    @scottwiley Рік тому +5

    Ram Air leaned it out at WOT.

  • @zorvlatch
    @zorvlatch Рік тому +1

    I'm glad you took that long pipe off that bike. Very good experiment, though! Us bike engineers have tried everything, over the last 120 years.

  • @cohocarl
    @cohocarl Рік тому +5

    Vent the float bowl to intake just before the carb?

  • @mitchd949
    @mitchd949 Рік тому +1

    No ram air effect. The slight improvement was simply due to foam air cleaner versus no air cleaner. Easily confirmed by running your "ram air" setup by turning the last elbow to face backwards.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      You got that right. But it was fun trying. Check out the playlist for many more bikes and engine combos. thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/9KE9e-3KHrU/v-deo.html

  • @rumbo1818
    @rumbo1818 Рік тому +1

    For a true test, take that screen off, it distorts airflow massively. Then rich up the fuel mixture like Andrew says.

  • @NVScrapper
    @NVScrapper Рік тому +2

    I like it! Where do you come up with these ideas! LOL Can't wait to see the next video 💯💯❤

  • @rogerrose8220
    @rogerrose8220 Рік тому +1

    Deff the main is lean. Good luck, Sir!

  • @Buff_Wolfz-6600
    @Buff_Wolfz-6600 Рік тому +1

    I wanna say try welding them together before trying them out, but your video are 💯

  • @AdamOpheim
    @AdamOpheim Рік тому +1

    Need a WB02 sensor on it to tell if its too lean/rich w the "ram air". . Would be another good data point. I use an RC lipo bat. so you could use the same sensor/setup on all your bikes.

  • @777MUNCH
    @777MUNCH Рік тому +2

    🔥🔥

  • @OGbqze
    @OGbqze Рік тому +2

    Finally got my MB200 r

  • @frankgerbrandt8717
    @frankgerbrandt8717 11 місяців тому +1

    I have a pvc pipe elbow on the 24mm carb on my mini bike with a 225 on it. A thin sponge soaked in old with a hose clamp holding it on. Works great.

  • @bcmc5919
    @bcmc5919 Рік тому +1

    Great info, what’s your take on my first mini bike kit, the Azusa 3450 or the Taco 357? Also have you experienced any gas cap access issues with the Predator 212 on either of the above frames. Trying to decide between the kits and the Titan 6.5 hp or Predator 212. Thanks. Great videos

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I have both. I like them both but the Taco is my favorite. You can see it on the video coming out this Saturday. No gas cap issues on either. Check out the Azusa bike playlist ua-cam.com/video/ONJbFaEecQM/v-deo.html

  • @crybabylocr4012
    @crybabylocr4012 Рік тому +1

    Love it love it wow man nice 😮😮😮

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 Рік тому +1

    Still seem to have quite the lag out of the hole. With that large flat slide carb you should try to maintain intake velocity manually by not just flooring it but rolling it on. A vacuum operated carb with an accelerator pump would help but it won't work with ram air.

  • @buckwild8920
    @buckwild8920 Рік тому

    It looks like something Dr.Suess invented, a high velocity hornswoggler.

  • @DArcyAllison-u5u
    @DArcyAllison-u5u 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey fellla great idea try turning your intake pipe facing front.i bet it will be even better

    • @Black66
      @Black66  8 місяців тому

      Check out the 7-foot exhaust video. ua-cam.com/video/hK42YGn7yXY/v-deo.html

  • @donnienicholson6062
    @donnienicholson6062 Рік тому

    Mount the curve to the engine and the carb paralley for a more direct air flow and longer curved manifold.

  • @galosengen856
    @galosengen856 Рік тому +2

    too much turbulence? Or pushing so much horsepower that the ECU cut timing to save the engine? Hope you have a video with a bigger jet soon.

  • @tourhead
    @tourhead 7 місяців тому +1

    Very cool. Super fun.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  7 місяців тому

      Thanks! Check out the7 foot exhaust / 3 foot intake video! ua-cam.com/video/H3GPSgVLOSw/v-deo.html

  • @williamzoom
    @williamzoom Рік тому +1

    It's so fast it goes 3 mph standing still!

  • @timothyproksch2915
    @timothyproksch2915 Рік тому

    Air and gas has weight if you can get the carb up high so gravity can help the ram charge . Down draft carb would be nice. Crotch rockets are like that get one of those carbs. I would use an air filter box and ram pressurize it

  • @markebedwell9973
    @markebedwell9973 Рік тому +2

    When are you going to start doing fuel mileage test on these mini bike builds?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I actually did one test a couple years ago.I addded a small tank to the Coleman bike and did a milage test on it. I'll have to do more. Check it out...ua-cam.com/video/j7U_0GgGLng/v-deo.html

  • @georgehayes7498
    @georgehayes7498 Рік тому +1

    Where is the build video of the mods including the wheels and tires used on this doodlebug?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      Check out the Doodlebug playlist ua-cam.com/video/9KE9e-3KHrU/v-deo.html

  • @juliolausell4399
    @juliolausell4399 Рік тому +1

    The float bowl, and the fuel tank need to feel the same amount of pressure for this ram air to work.

  • @jacksonk8826
    @jacksonk8826 Рік тому +2

    Turn up the fuel on the carb

  • @johnconroy9555
    @johnconroy9555 Рік тому +1

    Running a little lean make it just a tad richer 😊 ..john . Australia

  • @2000freefuel
    @2000freefuel Рік тому +1

    you really need more cross section area for your intake funnel.

  • @markbrubaker8585
    @markbrubaker8585 Рік тому +1

    For comparison purposes have you ever tried a 2 cycle engine? Like a West Bend 820. Just wonder how the numbers would compare. I think the horsepower is greater on the West Bend.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Haven't tried a two-cycle yet...

  • @Moneymike29
    @Moneymike29 3 місяці тому

    Hey I have a question, I’m looking at getting a performance air filter keeping the stock carb on my b200, but I can’t find a kit on Amazon with a recirculation filter, only the main intake and fuel breather filter. Is that third hose that goes to the block necessary to have filtration? A few Amazon kits have a filter for that but those kits don’t come with an air filter adapter so I’d have to buy 2 separate kits and mix em to have all 3 filters and the adapter. What’s your thoughts?

  • @RhiceyHarierar
    @RhiceyHarierar Рік тому +1

    Wow what a mini bike builder!! You should learn some port polishing etc

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I have . Check out the Mega Moto playlist . There are many parts combos and engine builds on that playlist . Check it out. ua-cam.com/video/VbcpA0jdSIw/v-deo.html

  • @masongt6546
    @masongt6546 Рік тому +1

    Hey man! I have a stage 3 predator 212 on my ct200u. I have a 10t on my torque converter and 40t sprocket. If I switch to a centrifugal clutch, what is a good budget clutch and what size sprocket should I put on the front for trail/road riding?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      If you are going to use a straight chain I would use a big rear sprocket.Like a 60 or 72 , bigger the better because It is hard on the clutch with the big tires and the high gear ratios. For trail riding I would stay with the torque converter set up myself.

  • @fluXxSieRra
    @fluXxSieRra Рік тому +1

    Do u not have return springs on the throttle of any of your builds? I only ask bc I always see u snap the throttle back.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      The return spring is in the slide of the carb. I snap the throttle back for consistency on the timed tests. There is a point I need to be off the throttle,. I try and do it the same every time.

  • @jamesrehm8647
    @jamesrehm8647 Рік тому +1

    Where did you get that header and or part number thanks in advance and kick ass channel

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Its a few videos down in the Doodlebug playlist . The links for the parts are in the description of the videos. ua-cam.com/video/9KE9e-3KHrU/v-deo.html

  • @dallasjames97
    @dallasjames97 Рік тому +1

    You HAVE TO PHATIN IT UP

  • @Kaiser_the_maverick
    @Kaiser_the_maverick Рік тому +1

    I've been running my own ram air for six months bro and 7k miles

  • @timothythornburgh9515
    @timothythornburgh9515 10 місяців тому +2

    install a turbo charger

  • @MOAONAABE
    @MOAONAABE Рік тому +1

    time for a turbo

  • @edarnold1426
    @edarnold1426 Рік тому

    I would say that you probably need a little more fuel. However on a governed engines how are you gonna get anymore top end out of it unless you don't have enough engine to reach maximum RPMs in the first place?

  • @zZWolfyZz
    @zZWolfyZz Рік тому +1

    I wonder if its actually making enough pressure in the intake tract to overcom the gravity fuel system and making it lean out cause it does kinda sound like it especially since you cant give full throttle

  • @spikemandan
    @spikemandan Рік тому

    so when can we see you do a Honda gx270 or predator 420 with a 40 series torque converter

  • @hemidart7
    @hemidart7 Рік тому +1

    Technicly thats a velocity stack and works different than ram air

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      The set up was mainly for fun. Check out the playlist for many engine combos and parts comparisons and a few builds thrown in for good measure. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/9KE9e-3KHrU/v-deo.html

  • @buddhaboy2188
    @buddhaboy2188 Рік тому +1

    Where can I get that center exit pipe from and will it fit on a 212 predator non-hemi ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      GoPowerSports has that pipe. Yes it will fit a non-hemi

  • @mikesbarn1858
    @mikesbarn1858 Рік тому

    Next consider making a cold air intake with a chiller section. Make the air denser going in.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Рік тому

      Back on a turboed project ,I had a bright idea of chilling the intercooler with almost anything that gets freezing cold when blasted from a can.
      Maybe not the safest but I'm thinking cheap cheap, propane or helium or something like that blown on a intercooler to freeze it.
      I had less chance of a fire being it was a diesel
      So do the same with a long intake tube.
      Lol hold a propane torch bottle upside down as ya ride and blast it on the tube.
      Haha who knows ya might even draw in some propane 😂

  • @boldkojak2734
    @boldkojak2734 6 місяців тому

    Sir
    Ram Air has to be conical , it start with big opening facing forward
    Then it get tighter

  • @christopherrojas9385
    @christopherrojas9385 Рік тому +1

    Rich out the main and power jet

  • @AMGbuilds
    @AMGbuilds Рік тому +1

    I want to see a huge cone to catch maximum air

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Рік тому

      That's what I was thinking as I read a comment above ,testing isn't conclusive yet imo

  • @WooCrisp
    @WooCrisp Рік тому

    Let’s make it 5 pined. Sorry I’m late

  • @timothyproksch2915
    @timothyproksch2915 Рік тому

    I’d put a showing quarter faring up front and work on aerodynamics

  • @raz1987a
    @raz1987a Рік тому +1

    I'm not going to spill my specks but I'm running 296ish lift with my valve train combination

    • @raz1987a
      @raz1987a Рік тому +1

      But maybe try a deration cam and not a high lift cam

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      This video was mainly for fun.Check out the 7 foot exhaust video and the 3 foot intake video ...ua-cam.com/video/x61JKb-A_84/v-deo.html

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Awesome! Check out the e-bike videos!! ua-cam.com/video/o0UliTSSwWc/v-deo.html

  • @johnk6346
    @johnk6346 Рік тому +1

    😎

  • @fortniteandothers1434
    @fortniteandothers1434 Рік тому

    I have that carb with a premier clutch and I can’t get it to stop bogging what jets or drill size to drill them out for it

  • @Exclusv
    @Exclusv Рік тому +1

    What size gas tank is that?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I picked this tank up used off of ebay. Check out the Doodlebug playlist for the entire build on this bike. It has had many different engines and combos on it. ua-cam.com/video/x61JKb-A_84/v-deo.html

  • @drobichaud1000
    @drobichaud1000 Рік тому +1

    What happened when you put on a RAM AIR intake??? I must know!! Did the air get RAMMED into the intake so you went faster??? I love youtube.

  • @damnthiccassboye7138
    @damnthiccassboye7138 Рік тому +1

    try a maassive traffic cone instead

  • @mafia.graham
    @mafia.graham Рік тому +1

    what is you gearing

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Its running a 12/66 5.5 to 1 ratio

  • @Rick-O-Shay60
    @Rick-O-Shay60 Рік тому +1

    It's leaning out at top speed

  • @TheZmoney420
    @TheZmoney420 Рік тому +1

    Not trying to just bash but I guess you gotta start somewhere lol. All I can say is nothing happens magically on an engine.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      These videos are for fun. Check out the playlist for many more part combos, parts tests, and bike builds. ua-cam.com/video/bAchgrp5AZ0/v-deo.html

  • @pandalegends2738
    @pandalegends2738 Рік тому +1

    Not enough fuel for amount of air

  • @2000freefuel
    @2000freefuel Рік тому

    You could have run that U bend up and over the engine with a long runner like a refueling spear out the front!

  • @RamiroJunTV
    @RamiroJunTV Рік тому

    I think the bike now need more gas (fuel) next video please

  • @greggory448
    @greggory448 Рік тому

    Use big funnel

  • @Earle_stoeckel
    @Earle_stoeckel 11 місяців тому

    Hold it wide off the start

    • @Black66
      @Black66  11 місяців тому +1

      Check out the playlist . Over 320 videos with multiple speed test .

    • @Earle_stoeckel
      @Earle_stoeckel 11 місяців тому

      @@Black66 ya it just looked like it wasn’t wide open my bad

  • @gloriabauer2392
    @gloriabauer2392 Рік тому +1

    Wow...looks weird.

  • @diamondalexander5777
    @diamondalexander5777 Рік тому

    Need more gas to air ratio

  • @uan588
    @uan588 Рік тому +2

    Pick me

  • @boldkojak2734
    @boldkojak2734 6 місяців тому

    This is silly … sir .. sorry

  • @michaelcooper10
    @michaelcooper10 Рік тому +1

    And maybe even trying a turbo I've heard they won't work but my son begs to differ