Delta Epsilon Proof Quadratic Example with x^2

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  • @marcschmidtpujol550
    @marcschmidtpujol550 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you a lot! For me this was the most helpful video about this topic.

  • @Amityadav-il2rp
    @Amityadav-il2rp 2 роки тому +2

    Thanku so much sir 👍👍 love from India.......i see It three 4 times ....and now I can solve any quadratic problem,.

  • @sarelaiber2775
    @sarelaiber2775 5 років тому +8

    Could there be a slight inaccuracy in picking the value for delta? If delta=min{1,epsilon/5}, and assuming the case where 1 is the smaller of the two, then delta=1. But then |x+2|

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  5 років тому +12

      You are missing something, note |x - 2| < delta, by assumption, so you get the strong inequality right at the beginning,
      |x^2 - 4| = |x - 2||x + 2| < delta*|x + 2|

    • @sarelaiber2775
      @sarelaiber2775 5 років тому +5

      @@TheMathSorcerer Thanks for clearing that up, friend!

  • @maddoxjohnston9530
    @maddoxjohnston9530 4 роки тому +4

    This video really helped me. Thanks!

  • @xavierbuck7179
    @xavierbuck7179 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much. I had a very similar question to this in my text book where x->-1 and they said |x-3| 4

  • @anestismoutafidis4575
    @anestismoutafidis4575 Рік тому

    The limit-value is 2 lim x->2 2^2=4

  • @karljo8064
    @karljo8064 2 роки тому +23

    It's so abstract, I don't know what this is all about. It's like proving 1+1=2, why does it even need proving.

    • @mokshakumar4949
      @mokshakumar4949 Рік тому +6

      Some people wrote hundreds of pages to prove 1=2.

    • @surajbiswas256
      @surajbiswas256 Рік тому

      I am also thinking that i hope physics has nothing to do with this bullahit proving.....btw i am doing physics

    • @beniocabeleleiraleila5799
      @beniocabeleleiraleila5799 Рік тому +5

      Ur doing mid level math and is wondering why we need prove things???

    • @beniocabeleleiraleila5799
      @beniocabeleleiraleila5799 Рік тому

      Ur doing mid level math and is wondering why we need prove things???

    • @beniocabeleleiraleila5799
      @beniocabeleleiraleila5799 Рік тому

      Ur doing mid level math and is wondering why we need prove things???

  • @alihanemretunc7789
    @alihanemretunc7789 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much, helped a lot.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear that!

    • @alihanemretunc7789
      @alihanemretunc7789 2 роки тому

      @@TheMathSorcerer I never knew how we set those deltas coming out of nowhere lol. I will write scratchwork and proof separately on my exam paper xd

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f 11 місяців тому

    Just the way u made an intuitive sense for x-2 to be considered less than one using the x axis number line, and it makes sense, could u show intuitive sense for x+ 5 on the graph?
    Thanks

  • @aradarbel4579
    @aradarbel4579 5 років тому +5

    That is a pretty good video, but there's one thing that I don't understand:
    after I have the simplification |x^2-4| = |x-2|*|x+2|

    • @dejremi8190
      @dejremi8190 4 роки тому

      I totally agree! Please sir, have you found an answer between your comment and now?

    • @mfadhilal-fatih1427
      @mfadhilal-fatih1427 3 роки тому

      I think they just assume it would be bigger because it was an input and ouput anyway

    • @fromblonmenchaves6161
      @fromblonmenchaves6161 2 роки тому

      It must be some slight error in writing.
      Technically it should be this.
      |x-2| |x+2| < epsilon
      since |x-2| < delta
      therefore
      delta * |x+2| = epsilon
      That being |x+2| is less than something.

  • @martinperez943
    @martinperez943 4 роки тому +6

    Siii, al fin encontré la explicación a este ejercicio

  • @Alphabunsquad
    @Alphabunsquad 8 місяців тому

    I don't get how we know that x is within 1 of 2. It seems to me that you are saying just vaguely that it could be within 1 and then we are just working off of that assumption but what then in the case where x is =3.5 or something like.

  • @danielhong2817
    @danielhong2817 Рік тому

    why do we want delta*|x + 2| < 5*delta to be less than Epislon? 5:29

  • @medielijah
    @medielijah 3 роки тому

    If something is *less* than delta why can we replace it *with* delta. Where you replaced (x-2) with delta at the start...

  • @zeeshanahmed9719
    @zeeshanahmed9719 5 років тому +2

    Sir @03 :00 why you took 1 and 3 as close to 2 why not 1.9 and 2.I or something similar like that.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  5 років тому +3

      you could have chosen those for sure and it would work yes,no reason, just 1 is simple, your example works also

  • @raylittlerock3940
    @raylittlerock3940 4 роки тому +1

    I do not understand why ( in part 2, proof proper), you write that |x - 2| . |x+2| < delta.5. I see that " delta.5 " is the product of two " bonds" , also see that |x-2| is true by hypothesis, but by where does |x+2|

    • @raylittlerock3940
      @raylittlerock3940 4 роки тому

      Correction, line 2 : " I know that | x-2| < delta is true by hypothesis...."

    • @LiamC328
      @LiamC328 2 роки тому

      @@raylittlerock3940 you can edit the comment my man

    • @LiamC328
      @LiamC328 2 роки тому

      With delta = 1 we get (x-2)0, we know that (x-2) = |x-2|
      A property says "if |x|0 then -a

  • @elhoplita69
    @elhoplita69 Рік тому

    Crystal clear!

  • @axn30158
    @axn30158 Рік тому

    I found that, delta = 1 works for every E > = 5. I have to find a delta for E < 5, but I dont know how

  • @Labrador.007
    @Labrador.007 Рік тому

    could you expain why at 4:13 we can make the assumtion that we can put -1 in -1

    • @ComputerJunkie
      @ComputerJunkie Рік тому

      that’s how absolute value works, observe, if i told you |x| < 3, then x could only take values from but not including -3 and 3, if i told you x was -4 then put the absolute operator back on the inequality would no longer hold

  • @danielmauriciozamoranorial4208

    What if x---> -2 in this limit

  • @markovnikovchung9152
    @markovnikovchung9152 2 роки тому

    Can I say that since |x-2| < delta, then |x+2| < delta +4, so |x-2| |x+2| < delta (delta +4)?

    • @Cnecomicz
      @Cnecomicz 2 роки тому

      No, you can say that since |x-2| < delta, then |x-2| + 4 < delta + 4, but |x-2| + 4 is not the same as |x+2| (they only agree for x >= 2).

  • @p.abhijitsuhas26
    @p.abhijitsuhas26 3 роки тому

    we have chosen delta to be smaller than 1 and smaller than epsilon over 5, then i dont understand how the minimum of the 2 would be smaller than the 2? wouldnt it rather be equal to one of the 2 numbers than being smaller than the 2? hope someone can clear this up.

  • @tsunningwah3471
    @tsunningwah3471 3 роки тому

    hey bro can I pick some number other than 1, say 2/3/sqrt2

    • @GiveMeThatSwordPower
      @GiveMeThatSwordPower 3 роки тому

      yes

    • @prathikkannan3324
      @prathikkannan3324 3 роки тому

      Sure go ahead and pick 2/3/sqrt(2), the whole point of these proofs is to show no matter how sufficiently small our delta and epsilon are, we can always find a satisfying condition. We pick delta = 1 out of convenience to get this satisfying condition. (Remember, we can let delta be whatever, and all we wish is to find a corresponding epsilon inequality )

  • @albertyeung5787
    @albertyeung5787 Рік тому

    excellent

  • @jacobsola3314
    @jacobsola3314 5 років тому +3

    Fire emojis

  • @matheuspachecopacheco2139
    @matheuspachecopacheco2139 Рік тому

    rushed explanation, if youre teaching it to someone who doesnt know make sure its a clear one pls