Do I Carry With a Loaded Chamber?
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Exploring the question as to whether carrying a firearm with a loaded chamber is right for YOU!
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Speaking of traveling at our own risk.. We should be able to travel legally in all 50 states while armed.
Hickok is a gun control supporter so he probably wouldn’t agree with you.
I agree, our other Constitutional rights are valid in all 50 states, why is the 2A the only one that’s not.
@@Wild_Bill57. Good question, I’d like to know that too.
@@Wild_Bill57 Because some states like California (better known as Newsomland) are run by boneheads.
I would posit that good people should be able to travel armed world wide.
When I was a military police officer in the California Army National Guard in 1979, they made us carry our 45 automatics in the holster without a magazine in it. And only one mag in the double mag pouch. Absolutely insane.
Dear Lord, they were leftards in 1979.
However you carry, train till your mind forgets, but your body remembers.
Racking a round in a bad situation is best left to the movies - added drama not needed in a real self defense situation.
I like the format of this channel. I can sit and listen to Hickok45 talk about watching paint dry and still be interested.👍
I retired from law enforcement in 2013 with 27 plus years. Started with revolvers then autos. Even now when I carry I will have a round chambered. The fact is if you don't you're unarmed.
I can draw from appendix and chamber a round and get a shot ON TARGET within 1.65 seconds. That is with only trying for 3 minutes to do it better.
That's great, but apparently in 27 years in law enforcement you didn't learn the difference between fact and opinion
I always pull the pin on my grenade, just incase. You tools are despicable and are on borrowed time.
@@bri13wvu1 While you're trying to rack your weapon, the other guy is already pulling the trigger. You'll have to be the one who decides whether that' fact or opinion.
I retired in 2016 after 27+ years in law enforcement. It was never a topic of discussion when I went through the Academy. You always would have a round chambered. I agree, why carry a pistol if you’re carrying it without a chambered round? To me this isn’t a topic of discussion. Any people who do it are stupid. I couldn’t imagine being in a split second life or death situation and you pull out your gun and have to chamber around. FYI, I was in the first Academy class with the 9 mm having transitioned from 38 revolvers.
One more consideration concerning carrying a round in chamber. There could be a situation whereby ‘racking a round’ could give your position away to ‘bad guy’.
I’ve said that so many times!
Do I carry with a loaded chamber? Hmmm. Let me check here. (Checks revolver). Yep, all the chambers are loaded.
You're a National treasure!!! We love too hear your thoughts!!! 💯
Such a welcome, mature and gentlemanly response. Kudos Sir!
The only time I suggest carrying without one in the chamber is if you carry a SIG.
If you ever need to use your firearm in self defense, every second counts,by the time you have to rack your firearm it could be too late.
Every nanosecond counts!
I am retired 30 year US Army. The 1911a1 was the firearm I was issued the most. I was taught to carry it in condition one; cocked, locked, and one in the chamber. If you have to use a firearm seconds matter. I am now a civilian and I carry a Sig Sauer 938 that reminds me of the 1911a1. I carry it in condition one. I do not recommend this to a novice, but it works for me!
Love the new channel idea!!!
1911 has a safety. My answer is , yes.
For the most part, with a good holster, you should be confident in carrying a firearm with a round in the chamber! Never carry a firearm on you person w/o a holster.
Right. Just because it fits in your pocket doesn't mean you should.
"For the most part" lmao 😂
If you carry a revolver, it doesn't matter!
Yep. Always ready.
In some older revolvers it does matter if you fall on the hammer or drop the gun.
My dad taught me to always keep Concealed. Clean . And one in the chamber. Avoid bad situations )
Camera and audio are on point. Good stuff
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.” Yeats
What does Yeats have to say about experience?
If you are scared of having a round in the chamber, buy a revolver😅
But then again, that is always a round in the chamber with a revolver! ;
With the hammer back yes I would consider that
I have two revolvers and now a semi auto. I am working the semi auto into my capabilities. The revolver is more of a reaction weapon. The semi is more like an assault weapon. I hear you are NOT supposed to carry a round in the chamber for the AR.
@@machivellisucstwogo7103 I don't until I'm ready but it's very easy to load
For me, yes.
I always carry with one in the chamber. I also have the safety on and practiced hitting that switch as I draw.
The safety is between your ears! Sorry I'm a Glock guy, I worry about my magazine falling out I'm always checking it.
@@jakejudson8578No, the safety is on the gun. My safety is on as I wear my gun everyday from the time I get up to when I go to bed. That means when I'm doing any type of lawn maintence, branch trimming ect where something might work its way into the trigger guard and fire a safety less firearm.
I'm not ready to punch any needless holes in my own body.
@@kennethcurtis1856 that's a Hickok saying " the safety is between your ears". Different strokes for different folks, I get it, cheers!
@@jakejudson8578I learned with pistols that has a safety. It’s become natural for me to thumb the safety down when I draw from holster.
When I first shot a Glock I was thumbing the non existent safety 😂
Trusting your ammo and firearm is a big factor in carrying ready. It helped me ease into it, knowing it WONT go off when I don’t want, and WILL go off when I do
Appreciate the discussion. As a semi-newbie that's the conclusion I've come to: the danger of "unintended discharge" exceeds the danger of not being quick enough if the situation calls for it. Or, use a revolver (in a good holster).
Slamfire is a good cat. 🐈⬛ I’ve had a few that were really good animals.
The operative word here is "training". Either way, your effective response to a threat depends on how proficiently confident you are adding a lethal weapon into the conflict.
I personally carry without one in the chamber. I have conditioned myself through training to rack, retrieve, and if necessary, fire in one motion. I have been licensed to carry for well over twenty-five years. I have also had to draw both my striker and hammer fired pistols in actual situations where a potential threat existed.
When a round is carried chambered, that usually means the next event is the firing of the weapon. Whether intentional or not, once that occurs, there is no turning back. Odds are less likely you will find yourself in a situation where you have absolutely zero chance to charge your weapon to protect yourself from hurt, harm, or danger. Conversely, the likelihood of a shot gone bad from a rushed engagement carries a higher probability.
For me, I want to be sure and in complete control (most importantly my wits included) when my gun goes off. The Rambo/Terminator/S.W.A.T/Sp.Ops. wannabes of the UA-cam gun world might disagree, but to each their own.
What are your most recent timed splits from concealment to first A zone hit without one in the pipe?
Before I left the house to do a little shopping yesterday, I took a moment to make sure there was a round in the chamber of my daily carry, that the magazine and the two spares I always carry were also full....That took all of roughly two minutes at most....I'm looking at that pistol as I type, and I KNOW there is a round up the tube because I did NOT clear it after I got home. But I will still check it before I go out again in the morning....Just to be sure.
Good habits 🫡
@@adong1 I live by a couple of very simple rules: #1: I will NOT be the last one hurt in a gun fight and #2: ALWAYS carry extra ammo for my daily carry be it a revolver or a semi auto. I didn't get as old and ugly as I am by expecting anything mechanical to work perfectly all the time every time.
Yup. I choose my gun/holster combo and even though I know they are loaded up I check a round is chambered, mags are full. Often even a few slow fundamental practice draws and out I go.
Thank you for always bringing this humbleness to your conversations! It is really refreshing and important!
Found the new channel best of luck with it
I respect you and you're thoughts and opinions so much. You, Sir, are an icon. I have enough confidence in my edc to carry with a round chambered, and combined with your insight, and my time at the range, I feel ready to deal with anything that may happen.
I’d like to hear you talk more about finances, retirement, life goals, and other life skills. You are more than just a gun guy to us! Very excited to hear more from you.
Appreciate the almost uniformly civil dialogue on what is a passionate topic. One point I will add is don’t forget there are a lot of relatively new handgun owners, and carrying one (along with your training and confidence level) is not static; it’s a journey. Let’s not intimidate people into not carrying at all by preaching that the only answer is a loaded chamber combined with some idealistic level of “training”. In the real world, abilities, budgets, and confidence levels vary. I carry with one chambered today, but I admit I didn’t start that way. And I have taken several concealed carry courses and regularly practice drawing and reholstering, both live and dry. And, I insist on a thumb safety for my strikers, unless I carry a DA/SA. That may not be ideal, but it worked for me.
I enjoy all of your posts. Good luck with this new videos
Excellent advice.......thank you!!
Chambered with manual safety on. It’s about Training. It’s the safest, fastest way to respond. For me, as a civilian… as I age.
Love the new talk channel
Saw the tree in the background and thought it was a Hickory.....you confirmed my thoughts.
I appreciate your expert experience and opinion.
By the way, I'm jealous of that beautiful tree, trying to get one out of the ground here in SE NC with little success.
Keep trying and happy Independence Day.
This new channel is a great idea.
We'll be here waiting for the next video.
Cheers, Hickok45 and gang
Love the new channels and all your videos 👍
Life is indeed good!
Very well said.
Just saw the instagram post, love the new channel
Hickok, I saw your video introducing this channel this morning where your son said this had become your livelihood. Have you ever thought about starting a Hickok 45 shooting range ? With 7.7 million viewers, it might work. You could set up four or five shooting areas that duplicate your range. You could also put several paper target pistol ranges. People could rent and shoot some of your guns. Maybe you could build a little stage with wooden benches, and show up for a one hour relaxed discussion a few times a week? Nashville is already a vacation destination, I would come up to shoot at Hickok 45’s “range”. It would be fun to have a few tries at the gong or buy and shoot a few $5 2 liter bottles. Maybe spend $5 a round to shoot a Henry or some unusual historic rifle. In the big city, all we get is paper to shoot at. It’s something that might give you and John and income for several years.
In your dreams!
i have a shield plus with a safety. so there is no problem.
Yeah I agree!!! I EDC a S&W M&P 2.0 with an external safety. I will not carry any pistol in condition 1 without an external safety period. I really cringe at the folks that appendix carry condition 1 with no external safety!! To me that’s complete insanity!!!!
Thanks Hickok, very well put! Your opinions are very well thought out and valuable. I had firearm training in the military in 1979, but things are different now days,
that's why I subscribe to all your channels for proper care with all my firearms in today's world. Thanks again and God Bless.
After I got my CCW…I carried my SW 38 without ammunition for around a month…just to get the feel and to see if I was actually competent to carry a firearm…after I felt comfortable I carried a speed loader with ammunition and the revolver still empty for a week or so…when I felt that I was skillful and safe enough I loaded it and made sure I had a proper holster.
Well said
Well said, sir.
Watched an Israeli army video about carrying chambered vs unchambered. New recruits carry unchambered and commandos don't. However their training involves drawing from the holster and chambering in one smooth motion so you are ready to shoot as the gun comes on target. The Air Force did not teach me this technique back in the 90's. Thanks for the thoughtful presentation.
Congrats on NEW CHANNEL‼️Goodluck to you🏆🇺🇸
My wife carries 2 M&P 40 cal. at all times. 1 in purse and other in cancan belt. 1 has safety the other doesn't. This is confusing to her so she opted for carrying chamber empty in both. We went to shoot last week (long overdue) and the gun she carries on person wouldn't cycle. Bang then hang up etc.. Apparently I picked up a 9mm mag and loaded it with .40cal. That doesn't work! Just a reminder to check your gear and become familiar with it. I am guilty of not doing this and it could have been a very bad situation if she needed it to function properly. Huge fan of Hickock and Son for many years, please keep your videos coming!
Good idea...she should check her gear she carries...not rely on someone else.
Thanks Hickok for all the great videos, always enjoy them. Just a suggestion, maybe talk about hammer fired, double single vs. striker fired, for newer or less experienced shooters, just a thought.
My take is that, if you find yourself with ony one hand at your disposal, you already failed at two stages. 1.- your situational awarness, 2.- Your threat assessment. Thefore, you have cut your chances of survival by as much as half. I choose to carry empty for my own personal reasons, but I make sure that stage 1 and 2 are covered so I can give myself ample time to load one when needed.
Should the absence (or presence) of a manual thumb safety have a bearing on your decision to carry with a round in the chamber?
It very well COULD be a factor for you, depending on your level of competence and confidence.
Great channel idea,
Do you think you would do a live stream,
It doesn't for me but an exposed hammer does make me use the manual safety where it doesn't on my pistols that have a manual safety.
I always have my pistol fully loaded and carry a S&W.38 plus P.😊
Wow just subscribed and already got a notice new video! Awesome 👍
In my book, if you feel uncomfortable carrying with one in the chamber, you need to practice and train until you feel comfortable. If you train enough with the right weapon and the right holster, you will be fine with one in the chamber.
Sage advise.
One in the tube ,got that thumb safety ? Confidence and training.good video
Great 👍 Channel 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It’s important to carry with a round in the chamber because your gun won’t shoot if it’s not loaded.
So many variables so self access & “you be you”!
If you notice in the movies the bad guys almost always carry their guns without One in the chamber it always having a rack around in that's pretty amazing those guys are really safe for the firearm but once they rack one in you're done
There are video scenarios exemplifying the time it takes to charge a semi-auto assuming both hands are free, and it can be fatal. As always, great instructional video.
Been shooting since I was 11. Still thinking about what to carry. When I do, it’s a revolver. Because, as you said, carrying with a round in the chamber is like having a revolver.
I don’t remember this being a big deal when most people carried either revolvers or automatics with frame or slide mounted safeties. Since all the popular carry guns now are striker fired with no safety and light triggers… it’s understandable some people don’t want to carry them with one in the chamber. The answer isn’t just train more or don’t be a wimp. The answer might be get a different gun. I’ve never heard of anyone afraid of carrying a loaded revolver. Even Barney Fife would have carried a loaded revolver if Andy had let him.
I carry loaded in chamber only when in a holster. Unless it's a revolver then always.
Duh! Absolutely necessary!
I always carry with one in the chamber with my pocket pistol, but as soon as it's loaded, it goes into the holster and stays there unless I need it or am unloading it. I also like to use a good heavy double action trigger for my pocket pistol for the extra safety. However my full size 9mm that I keep for home defense, I usually just have the magazine loaded. I feel like if someone's trying to break into my home, I'll have time to rack the gun when I grab it, but out on the street, that's a totally different matter. But I agree that people have to make their own choice. Sometimes with a new gun, I carry it with an empty chamber until I've shot it at the range and feel confident with the gun.
Sage advice from respected old timer. Every where you look, read, listen these days people are talking about the need to be armed. Consider that as Hickock said, the odds are you will never need the gun. Now that will invite howls of protest but keep thinking about these following criteria. In the past several years gun ownership and the attitude of needing to be armed has skyrocketed. That means a lot of newbies and for my way of thinking I would personally expect that a large measure of them are NOT competent with handling a gun much less are they adequately prepared to stage a self defense shooting in public with the problem of collateral damage. And a lot of the wanna be armed titans have no clue how they will react psychologically in determining a threat, deciding to use the gun, assessing the conditions of the shooting field and the very real thought of deciding to kill another person. I am 75, I am of the opinion that to carry and use a gun in self defense is purely a risky roll of the dice, likely as not you will screw up, the authorities will prosecute you and or your attacker will remain to be a threat to you for ever more. The very best you can do for yourself is to be vigilant, a constant state of situational awareness and seeking to steer clear of trouble whether out in public or at home.
I carry a p365xl, typically in an inside motorcycle jacket pocket not holstered. No safety either, so I prefer not to have a round in chamber.
Hi ya Hickok,
Thanks for the round tree talks!
Thanks for the share! MAGA FOR LIFE
My personal thoughts on this matter only reflects my own thinking,,, but I keep one chambered,,
thinking the time between racking a round and being ready to deploy, it may just be that extra second
Is what it may require! Walther PDP!
Shaggy Bark Hickory is the BEST wood stove fuel and 2nd place...standard Hickory isn't close
Three rounds, three yards, three seconds. How many seconds does that spare to chamber a round?
Thanks for doing this do a talk on the black powder civil war pistol the Lematt a 9 shot revolver with a buckshot barrel underneath the regular barrel thanks
My .357 revolver is always chambered.....
I always carry with a round in the chamber. I do have one pistol that I carry with the manual safety engaged is my Taurus TH-40 with the exposed hammer. There is just something about seeing that hammer that for some reason makes me nervous. I know it doesn't mean anything more that seeing the striker indicator on my Springfield but it just stands out more. I carry with a round in the chamber on all my carry guns and the safety on with only one.
Like Barney fife I carry a round in my butted shirt pocket for emergency use.
Lol!
Barney Fife was the king of NDs 😂
Next topic. Do you modify your guns? If yes what guns and what modifications
I am 79 and arthritis has cought up with me, so I carry a revolver most of the time. If I go out of town I keep a spare in my car just in case I need it fast.
But do you carry a cat named slamfire?
He said SF doesnt like to be carried. lol
Slamfire can go right off on you.
Why carry an unloaded weapon? It simply doesn't make sense.
No it sure doesn’t.
carry securely and train, train and train some more
Shagbark hickory!
Locked and loaded = round in the chamber, safety off (my Shield has a manual safety).
Until a round is chambered and ready to be fired you have in your hand a very poor excuse for a club. If you are thinking you are that fast and capable to draw, ratchet in a round, relocate your hands into position, acquire a sight picture and perform a properly squeezed shot with all the momentary considerations that one has to factor in when you fire then you are not figuring in your opponents state of readiness. By having one in the chamber you have just cut your response time and action by at least 20%. In other words there's a good chance you never got to clear the holster and if so not got in that all most always most important shot, the 1st one. So be sure and have some ID on you besides in your wallet so the LEO/EMS can notify your next of kin.
Potentially lethal confrontations are time compression events. You never hear of bad guys racking a round “after”they have initiated the commission of a crime. They know racking a round could cost them their lives. It may appear racking a round doesn’t take much time, but against a round already in a bad guys gun ,you have been robbed of racking your gun in a time compression event. They have the advantage. Do not help them out! This refers to those packing semi autos. Revolvers are a different story. Empty chambers in PC’s are tombstones waiting for inscriptions.
The P-08 LUGER is the ONLY firearm l don't
feel comfortable , with a round in the CHAMBER..😮😰😱
..But with the HK- P7..?
THAT'S ANOTHER STORY .. though both are striker fired..😊😅!👍
I wonder how many people think they are proficient and then shoot themselves or others during the slightest emergency.
A gun without a round in the chamber does you no good.
put a snap cap in there and carry it at home a couple weeks. did the hammer drop on its own. did the trigger move? if it hasn’t gone off it wont
3-10 ft time is short. Must go bang quickly.
Ya the 21 foot rule went out the window!
@@jakejudson8578 Most gun fights happen between 3-10 feet.
@@jakejudson857821ft rule is generally in reference to a knife wielding adversary, not a gunfight.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 ya, the further away the better especially when getting shot at!
@@jakejudson8578 Very true 😅
Quality (DeSantis) holster here with a round in the chamber and safety on. Ymmv. Great Video.
I carry a blunderbuss.
Always carry hot, at least seven spare mags and 4 boxes of ammunition.
Be ready cause they are coming for you.
ps:
Lighten up Francis
Should you carry with it chambered, hummm, the bad guy is 20 ft away rushing you with a knife , do you have time to take your weapon out , rack it and squeeze one off to the targeted area ! 🤔 , , today one of my main concerns is the people that conceal carry are knowledgeable enough on when is it time to make the decision to use the weapon ,
Carrying a firearm without one in the chamber is like carrying a cordless drill without the battery.
More like having the battery right next to the drill
For me, the bigger question is, the decision time needed to decide you have to shoot another human. How many of us are confident that you will make 100% the right reaction? 100% of the time?
This is what worries me with carrying a firearm. I just don't trust anyone that they are competent with their choices.
Obviously, a threat of being killed by another and reacting within your legal right would be one thing, but what if its undetermined if your life really is in danger? I often wonder what line has to be crossed before you decide to react with such deadly force.
That has to weigh heavily on one self when you carry. If it didn't, this is what makes me nervous about "other folks" reaction time and that they don't end up panicking and taking out someone that turns out wasn't a deadly threat.
Good talk on this would be intresting to see the different sides on this important issue.
You use a firearm to protect life, not that complicated really when you think about it, especially in the moment I would think! There are bad people in this world trying to hurt and even kill us. I will make my own decisions like we all do. We are all like minded on this topic. You will feel it in your heart when you or your loved ones lives are in danger. It's not a guessing game.
@jakejudson8578 believe me im all for carrying, I wish us in Canada had the right but that's another days topic. I often thought about how I would react as once the trigger is pulled you can't take back that bullet. My thought is really, how many that carry are really mentally capable of making the correct response in such a quick stressful event.
Do you think everyone should go through some kind of reaction training like those rooms set up with good guy/bad guy situations?
Just curious......
@@canadianbeefeater1672 sure why not. I'm sure some people would choke in the moment but not everyone. I think there's a mental block with some people about the realities of this world and how dangerous it can get, especially if you are unable to adequately keep yourself safe. I believe Jesus gives us the power to do the things we have to do, all we have to do is believe he is God! Works for me every time I pray to Him.
@jakejudson8578 our laws in Canada are so much different when it comes to protecting ourselves from bad guys. The biggest issue we have is we cannot harm, injure or kill a bad guy unless the bad guy "has caused life threatening physical injury" to our own body first. Even if bad guy breaks into our home we can't take him out until the above has taken place. Even then, our reaction cannot be "excessive force". Its absolutely terrible our lack of rights in Canada.
I can tell you bad guy wouldn't be a witness after such attack on my life or family. We have basically zero rights to defend ourselves.
@@canadianbeefeater1672 they are God given, I don't trust man, no offense! Women either, though they would be more likely to catch me with my pants down. And what you said about letting someone hurt you so you can defend yourself is ridiculous! I'm pretty dumb and I didn't even have to think about that one. I guess it's ignorance which I can relate to. But I'm well aware of corruption in the world and it doesn't matter what walk of life we're talking about, I'm sure there's a bad guy in all of them. Sorry for preaching to the choir, judging by your profile picture you look way more experienced than me! I salute you sir!!
Great advice!
Anyone ever try to rack a diamond back 9mm or 380 quickly with the fish scale on the slide instead of the aggressive cerated slide? Not a new gun owner just realized how difficult it is to chamber
I didn't think those were any good, you got some good ones I guess?