As a very worried and outraged Dutch citizen I can only completely agree with Mouin’s ‘inside’ observations and comments. This weaponization of anti-semitism combined with stoking up a deep rooted islamophobia is extremely troubling. I watched and listened to the, day long!, Dutch parliamentary session, yesterday and was shocked by politicians outdoing eachother in proposing anti-muslim (anti-Moroccan, specifically) measures, sanctions etc. The Amsterdam city-council meeting, the day before, wasn’t any different. Very troubling indeed. Thank you, all four of you, for another very valuable, even essential, programme!
Thank you for speaking up - I've always loved the Dutch for their kindness and honesty. Aside from your observations, I would also add that this weaponisation of antisemitism by izzy actually diminishes the threat of real antisemitism which is very dangerous
@@BennCrader A part from blatant emulation between Dutch politicians, siding no matter what with the false victim, hence with the Western narrative, can also be understandably CV beneficial. Ja, waar! But to outbid the thing to denaturalize Dutch Morrocan in that fallacy- circus, is damaging for the Netherlands in and out.
Thank you, Benn Crader, for speaking up against the Dutch government's Islamophobia. Fortunately, we know that so many Dutch people oppose Geert Wilders (sorry if I misspelled that) and his likes in the Dutch government.
There are many nonsense going round about the Amsterdam events. Your post is such an example. The taxidriver who was apparently assaulted does not exist !!
After hearing comments on Gaza by Mr. Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor and Mr. Toshiyuki Mimaki, Hiroshima survivor, the only conclusion possible: Israel has managed to transform Gaza into a morphing of Auschwitz and Hiroshima combined. Both hells at the same time.
@@Lord.of.the.Vultures *Very well said!* *Every decent human being can see that it's a genocide.* *But a bunch of sellout politicians and media try to deny it.*
No wonder Israel stopped allowing foreign doctors to go into Gaza. The ones who have returned from there, have nothing but horrific stuff to tell. Including the fact that Israeli snipers have been intentionally shooting young Palestinian children, ages 5 & under, in the head &/or chest either directly with a gun or with the same type of drone that shot Sinwar to death (the leader of Hamas). Videos show young Palestinian children being shot by those drones which allow a soldier to see exactly who the drone is targeting. So the soldier clearly knows that it’s a little child & certainly not a Hamas fighter! Yet they decide to press the button & shoot the child anyway.
Its all so appalling, but so many people seem to be just shrugging their shoulders 'nothing to do with me' they say...but people said that during the horror of nazi Germany and then shed crocodile tears afterwards
@@mothompson3437exactly! Afterwards, crocodile tears, but before no one knew nothing, no one saw anything. Today, we know everything, but our leaders decided to send more weapons.
It was the same In October 2023.. The media had their orders In advance..it was obvious from the way reporters chased anyone who could be pro Palestine with the attack question 'do you condemn Hamas..do you condemn Hamas..do you condemn Hamas..?'
As a secular westerner, i have much respect for all of you, Arabs, and Muslims who maintain your calm dignity and rationality in the face of this western Ziofascist perverse menace.
The media also felt they could easily validate the insane support for genocide by crying " anti-semitism". Thank you very much for this enlightening discssion
After hearing comments on Gaza by Mr. Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor and Mr. Toshiyuki Mimaki, Hiroshima survivor, the only conclusion possible: Israel has managed to transform Gaza into a morphing of Auschwitz and Hiroshima combined. Both hells at the same time.
Almost as if the progrom-Morrocans wanted to make sure they didn't accidentally pogrom the "wrong" Jews. Also note that none of the 15.000 local A'dam Jews were targeted and no synagogues etc. were razed.
I do not agree. Their beef was with IDF soldiers committing warcrimes in Gaza, chanting genocidal slogans and death to all Arabs not against other people for being jewish..Besides are israeli checkpoints not doing that dayly to Palestinians?
@@borgiobesieger2806Curious. The real dangerous ones the IDF zionist in Gaza. Iraq war based on false testimony Netanyahu about weapons of Massdestruction. Again only mass destruction i see is Zionist jews in Israel against palestinians in Gaza and WestBank.
You must be joking. What a rude comment. Nor do i think you lived through the 1974 immigration, guestworkers issues so refrain from your ignorant analyses. I did. Daily deaththreats towards my children, by turkish kids,, stranglingcord round my 6 year old daughters neck by Maroccan kids. I fled Rotterdam my hometown. Your denial, lack of introspection/lack of practicing Greater Jihad is extremely frustrating. Similar to the denial of your Zio cousins. Even when having watched countless videos on Palestine, Amsterdam Maccabi riots for 50 years. Even after 27 years there is no cohesion with Maroccan neighbours In my childhood we knew all the dutch neighbours on the block Many drank coffee together and came to birthdays. So maybe you should practice some introspection, study researches as th why Multicultural societies are a complete failure. My english good enough for UVA Politicilogy Lower Cambridge and worldwide connections on the internet. As it is Afrikan Americans most likely you got your priorities wrong. Something i was already aware of knowing my Maroccan neighbours.
EXCELLENT collection of folks, well done, do keep up the good werk, i've been a fan of DDN 4 quite some time. how ever, PLEASE!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! STOP using the line “thanks for having me”, it is utterly demeaning, not to mention a very stupid master and servant type line, and VERY unLefty. do refrain from using it in future, you will be a better person for it. Remember! language is a virus.
I watch Israeli news UA-cam channels to see what they discuss. First, they simply do not discuss the IDF military atrocities or the plight of the Palestinians . I think they are told not to discuss these topics, period, to shield the Jewish public from the reality.
You never went back to talk to the prof who was reading the info from Reuters like you said you would. As a member of the media, I would have found that useful.
I suspect most football followers haven't fallen for the reporting and know what happened in Amsterdam. Supporter groups will have to deal with the facts to protect travelling fans, UEFA, FIFA and the Olympics committee on the other hand are operating in lala land.
I don't give a single F about football, never have, but I understood right from the start it wasn't a "Jew-Hunt" I initially assumed it was Hooliganism-related violence, which was a far more obvious conclusion than "Kristallnacht Pt. 2"
The worst problem we have when talking about this subject of discrimination is the lack of definition of what or who is being discriminated against! Islamaphobia is a made up word that expresses absolutely no defined discrimination against people of this faith. Instead, it is used to shut people up when they complain about certain very negative facts. One of these is Rotherham (just one of many northern English towns) were 1400 little white working class girls were groomed and abused. This is no different to the same kind of cover up using Antisemite for the Zionists. Before any person can be accused of one of these tropes, then the accuser must define Islam and in the other case, define what a Semite is! This never happens and the reason for this is they keep changing definitions of words and terms so as they fit the "NARRATIVE"! You people on this show are not alone in concentrating on Racist, anti Muslim and so on, just as others do about Jews. None of this is has any relationship with religion, it is pure and simply POWER! Every time I have posted the dictionary definition of Semite (Websters Dictionary which I bought in Canada in 1988) I am shadow banned for a long time because it doesn't fit the narrative of the power struggles that now rage. Please concentrate on the reality of not only what has been happening and still is in Palestine, also Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yeman and Iraq, but also what is happening in our countries here in Europe with mass illegal migration and along with this mass criminality, and this criminal behaviour is mostly from Muslim men! I know that you people do not wish to hear this in your echo chamber, but it is true. We do not have one single recorded incident of "Gan* R*pe in my country (Germany) before 2015, and now they are a common daily event and ALL are committed by Muslims! A phobia is an irrational feeling with no cognative connections. The reason a lot of people in my country are so easily driven in to hating Muslims is because our government refuses to address the situation correctly and then on top of this demonises Palestinians killing Jews (not Zionists, but Jews)! People like yourselves are fueling this by defending Muslims in exactly the same way as the Dutch government defends Zionist Jews. Please have a think about this because one sided reporting and one sided belief is and always has been the reason why we all fight one another. I am not pro religion, I am pro TRUTH!
Ever wonder why on the Wednesday evening when this was al started by the Macabi fans bar 1 do not wear any Macabi regalia which the fans usually always do and which the definitely were wearing later in the stadium.
Good point Mouin, why does UAEFA allow this team to continue playing? It is hypocritical.
The title itself deserves a like 👍🏼
As a very worried and outraged Dutch citizen I can only completely agree with Mouin’s ‘inside’ observations and comments. This weaponization of anti-semitism combined with stoking up a deep rooted islamophobia is extremely troubling.
I watched and listened to the, day long!, Dutch parliamentary session, yesterday and was shocked by politicians outdoing eachother in proposing anti-muslim (anti-Moroccan, specifically) measures, sanctions etc. The Amsterdam city-council meeting, the day before, wasn’t any different.
Very troubling indeed.
Thank you, all four of you, for another very valuable, even essential, programme!
How can rhis insanity be stopped?
The politicians need to be integrated, the dieren lartij is the only normal voice on the subject
Thank you for speaking up - I've always loved the Dutch for their kindness and honesty. Aside from your observations, I would also add that this weaponisation of antisemitism by izzy actually diminishes the threat of real antisemitism which is very dangerous
@@BennCrader A part from blatant emulation between Dutch politicians, siding no matter what with the false victim, hence with the Western narrative, can also be understandably CV beneficial. Ja, waar!
But to outbid the thing to denaturalize Dutch Morrocan in that fallacy- circus, is damaging for the Netherlands in and out.
Thank you, Benn Crader, for speaking up against the Dutch government's Islamophobia. Fortunately, we know that so many Dutch people oppose Geert Wilders (sorry if I misspelled that) and his likes in the Dutch government.
All leaders have become hooligans.
Excellent analysis of the political motivations for the gross dishonesty, Mouin.
Great people!
The taxi driver that was assaulted wasnt even allowed to file a police report.
He should sue. Denial of his citizens and human rights
The taxi couldn't file a police report, you said.
What's your source?
I am Dutch Moroccan, I can't believe that.
@ I read it, I know I shouldn’t believe everything but given the level of truth suppression it rings true.
There are many nonsense going round about the Amsterdam events. Your post is such an example. The taxidriver who was apparently assaulted does not exist !!
@@nadirlarache3607 This taxidriver doesn't even exist.
Really love these unique discussions. Thank you for everything all of you do!
*"It’s like we’re watching Auschwitz on TikTok!" < Gabor Mate >*
💯
Orwellian@@roslyntchakedjian927
AND PALESTINIANS ARE THE VICTIMS NOT THE JEW.
After hearing comments on Gaza by Mr. Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor and Mr. Toshiyuki Mimaki, Hiroshima survivor, the only conclusion possible: Israel has managed to transform Gaza into a morphing of Auschwitz and Hiroshima combined. Both hells at the same time.
@@Lord.of.the.Vultures *Very well said!*
*Every decent human being can see that it's a genocide.*
*But a bunch of sellout politicians and media try to deny it.*
Well said and done. Amsterdamned is the best title for the fiasco
"Heads they win, tails you lose," that's exactly why the Mossad was accompanying them to choreograph the distraction from North Gaza.
Everyone should contact the media and ask them to correct the Amsterdam reporting and apologise openly.
No, they shouldn't. It was a progrom.
Their manipulation of the media is an absolute masterclass.
No wonder Israel stopped allowing foreign doctors to go into Gaza. The ones who have returned from there, have nothing but horrific stuff to tell. Including the fact that Israeli snipers have been intentionally shooting young Palestinian children, ages 5 & under, in the head &/or chest either directly with a gun or with the same type of drone that shot Sinwar to death (the leader of Hamas). Videos show young Palestinian children being shot by those drones which allow a soldier to see exactly who the drone is targeting. So the soldier clearly knows that it’s a little child & certainly not a Hamas fighter! Yet they decide to press the button & shoot the child anyway.
Its all so appalling, but so many people seem to be just shrugging their shoulders 'nothing to do with me' they say...but people said that during the horror of nazi Germany and then shed crocodile tears afterwards
@@mothompson3437exactly! Afterwards, crocodile tears, but before no one knew nothing, no one saw anything. Today, we know everything, but our leaders decided to send more weapons.
A great discussion! A shame that the sound qty deteriorated in the last 10 minutes, preventing me from properly hearing the ladies’ last takes..
The first time , I saw the video and explanation, I knew it wasn’t correct.
Thank you , for the correct information.
Excellent analysis of the event, the aftermath and media manipulation. Thank you.
Damn, that thing Sana was saying at the end about Frontline... I really want to hear that bit!
Amazing conversation, thank you all.
It was the same In October 2023.. The media had their orders In advance..it was obvious from the way reporters chased anyone who could be pro Palestine with the attack question 'do you condemn Hamas..do you condemn Hamas..do you condemn Hamas..?'
Great Panel ! 🌺💐 Thank You So Much 💝🦋
As a secular westerner, i have much respect for all of you, Arabs, and Muslims who maintain your calm dignity and rationality in the face of this western Ziofascist perverse menace.
This is a beautiful comment that's very much appreciated. Thank you.
A second junior minister has now resigned from the governing Dutch coalition, which makes you wonder how long this horror show is going to last
very powerful report hope unmasks lies
Billion dollar manufactured lies defeated by a 16 year old with a microphone filming and reporting live on the streets. His channel: Bender.
🙏🏼👍🏻
From Ireland
The coverage was so shockingly bad
The media also felt they could easily validate the insane support for genocide by crying " anti-semitism".
Thank you very much for this enlightening discssion
Amsterdamned😊
After hearing comments on Gaza by Mr. Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor and Mr. Toshiyuki Mimaki, Hiroshima survivor, the only conclusion possible: Israel has managed to transform Gaza into a morphing of Auschwitz and Hiroshima combined. Both hells at the same time.
👍
*Great job!* 👏👏👏👏
A world of arrogance glass and steel are the victims and the world of inferiority dust and rumble are the perpetrators?
Indeed
Attacking Hooligans is one thing!
Doing a paspoort controle with consequences is something else 😮
Almost as if the progrom-Morrocans wanted to make sure they didn't accidentally pogrom the "wrong" Jews.
Also note that none of the 15.000 local A'dam Jews were targeted and no synagogues etc. were razed.
@ Result is only: They show me and a lot more people how dangerous Islam is in the Netherlands 🤷🏼
More votes for Wilders 👌
I do not agree. Their beef was with IDF soldiers committing warcrimes in Gaza, chanting genocidal slogans and death to all Arabs not against other people for being jewish..Besides are israeli checkpoints not doing that dayly to Palestinians?
@@borgiobesieger2806Curious. The real dangerous ones the IDF zionist in Gaza. Iraq war based on false testimony Netanyahu about weapons of Massdestruction. Again only mass destruction i see is Zionist jews in Israel against palestinians in Gaza and WestBank.
They are not immigrants, Bassam. We are not in 1970, are we?
They are Dutch Morrocans at large.
@gertrudevanvoorden1416 Your English leaves a lot to be desired.
Express yourself in Dutch, then.
You must be joking. What a rude comment. Nor do i think you lived through the 1974 immigration, guestworkers issues so refrain from your ignorant analyses. I did. Daily deaththreats towards my children, by turkish kids,, stranglingcord round my 6 year old daughters neck by Maroccan kids. I fled Rotterdam my hometown. Your denial, lack of introspection/lack of practicing Greater Jihad is extremely frustrating. Similar to the denial of your Zio cousins. Even when having watched countless videos on Palestine, Amsterdam Maccabi riots for 50 years. Even after 27 years there is no cohesion with Maroccan neighbours In my childhood we knew all the dutch neighbours on the block Many drank coffee together and came to birthdays. So maybe you should practice some introspection, study researches as th why Multicultural societies are a complete failure. My english good enough for UVA Politicilogy Lower Cambridge and worldwide connections on the internet. As it is Afrikan Americans most likely you got your priorities wrong. Something i was already aware of knowing my Maroccan neighbours.
EXCELLENT collection of folks, well done, do keep up the good werk, i've been a fan of DDN 4 quite some time. how ever, PLEASE!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! STOP using the line “thanks for having me”, it is utterly demeaning, not to mention a very stupid master and servant type line, and VERY unLefty. do refrain from using it in future, you will be a better person for it.
Remember! language is a virus.
Can media who lie be reported to the Press Standards commission?
I watch Israeli news UA-cam channels to see what they discuss. First, they simply do not discuss the IDF military atrocities or the plight of the Palestinians . I think they are told not to discuss these topics, period, to shield the Jewish public from the reality.
I'm a victim and I love to whine a lot. Guess what I am.
An Amerikkkan.
*A forever victim Zio!*
A Zionist, through and through
Palestine will be free from the river to the sea
Nah, it won't.
@Johnconno it will.
@@dvegule920 Okay.
Is Netanyahu s slogan at UN
@@gertrudevanvoorden1416 Is Netanyahu a slogan at the UN? Probably.
You never went back to talk to the prof who was reading the info from Reuters like you said you would. As a member of the media, I would have found that useful.
The ZioNotSee that cried Pogrom
35:32 Truth needs to 35:59 be revealed
first punch !
No one mentioned the fact that among those ”chasing” Israeli Jews in Amsterdam were Amsterdam Jews.
And this "democracy" has like 40 different parties😂! Al facists
Only one or 2 small parties they make fun off!
All WEF
Tell her she‘s breaking up. Jetks
You are breaking up. There must be a loose audio connection.
FIFA INFILTRATED??
It is actually not Islamophobia,it is Islam hatred in my observations.
Why are you in this thread.
I suspect most football followers haven't fallen for the reporting and know what happened in Amsterdam.
Supporter groups will have to deal with the facts to protect travelling fans, UEFA, FIFA and the Olympics committee on the other hand are operating in lala land.
I don't give a single F about football, never have, but I understood right from the start it wasn't a "Jew-Hunt" I initially assumed it was Hooliganism-related violence, which was a far more obvious conclusion than "Kristallnacht Pt. 2"
The worst problem we have when talking about this subject of discrimination is the lack of definition of what or who is being discriminated against!
Islamaphobia is a made up word that expresses absolutely no defined discrimination against people of this faith.
Instead, it is used to shut people up when they complain about certain very negative facts.
One of these is Rotherham (just one of many northern English towns) were 1400 little white working class girls were groomed and abused.
This is no different to the same kind of cover up using Antisemite for the Zionists.
Before any person can be accused of one of these tropes, then the accuser must define Islam and in the other case, define what a Semite is!
This never happens and the reason for this is they keep changing definitions of words and terms so as they fit the "NARRATIVE"!
You people on this show are not alone in concentrating on Racist, anti Muslim and so on, just as others do about Jews.
None of this is has any relationship with religion, it is pure and simply POWER!
Every time I have posted the dictionary definition of Semite (Websters Dictionary which I bought in Canada in 1988) I am shadow banned for a long time because it doesn't fit the narrative of the power struggles that now rage.
Please concentrate on the reality of not only what has been happening and still is in Palestine, also Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yeman and Iraq, but also what is happening in our countries here in Europe with mass illegal migration and along with this mass criminality, and this criminal behaviour is mostly from Muslim men! I know that you people do not wish to hear this in your echo chamber, but it is true.
We do not have one single recorded incident of "Gan* R*pe in my country (Germany) before 2015, and now they are a common daily event and ALL are committed by Muslims!
A phobia is an irrational feeling with no cognative connections. The reason a lot of people in my country are so easily driven in to hating Muslims is because our government refuses to address the situation correctly and then on top of this demonises Palestinians killing Jews (not Zionists, but Jews)!
People like yourselves are fueling this by defending Muslims in exactly the same way as the Dutch government defends Zionist Jews.
Please have a think about this because one sided reporting and one sided belief is and always has been the reason why we all fight one another.
I am not pro religion, I am pro TRUTH!
tl;dr pointless deflection AKA whataboutism
Watch France railly same as Amsterdam 😂
Paris police are using tear gas.
Not much better in Germany. Actually, Germany is now a raw model in craziness.
Ever wonder why on the Wednesday evening when this was al started by the Macabi fans bar 1 do not wear any Macabi regalia which the fans usually always do and which the definitely were wearing later in the stadium.
Everyone there heard the slogans and whistling during silence for floodvictims in Valencia.