So what my parents did (and most every adult I knew) back in the 1960"s was correct. We ate 3 meals a day, got lots of outdoor activities, dessert was a treat not available every day and once we were over the age of 3 we generally didn't snack between meals. Soda was a very rare treat and we drank a lot of water. And obesity was not a problem.
We got dessert or junk food about once a week. Seemed normal to me, but kids now eat so much junk food that they might feel like they're going to die of they don't get a treat
People ate very unhealthy back then as well, but somehow were still slender. Maybe there is more to this then just the diet. I ate garbage and stayed thin and fairly healthy.
That "mini fast" window? It used to be universally enforced, from supper until breakfast, in every home, by every mother. The exception was the infant. I know the only way I was getting water after midnight was in the bathroom, and chances were good my sister had already taken the cup.
My daughter is 5 and is a type one diabetic and trust me she is very happy to be doing keto instead of being pumped full of insulin! Big pharma and the medical Community is probably mad they aren’t making any money 😂
The “fast window” is something that I’ve naturally trained my kids into. They’ve never known anything else! As far as keto for my kids, I tried at first to plunge the whole family into it & all that did was discourage me because EVERYONE COMPLAINED ABOUT EVERYTHING! Then I decided that they can eat how they want for breakfast and lunch (since they eat at school anyway) and then for dinner it will always be keto with the option of a healthy carb. I’ve started replacing their non healthy items with a “healthier” version, or by trying out making a keto version of it, if those 2 things fail then I at least try to make most things homemade so that I at least know what’s going into their food. At least this way they can learn how to balance the foods that they eat & will also hopefully remember their mom in the kitchen baking goodies all the time. ❤️
This is a healthy approach, I agree. I too have tried to replace ingredients for better alternatives. For example, I usually make pancakes with whole wheat flour. Not that whole wheat is bad, but it’s still a grain. I now do about half whole wheat and half almond flour. I also like to use fruit as sweetener instead of sugar. 👍
I lost a dear friend at the age of 24 years ago to a heart attack. His mother was extremely controlling over what he ate until he moved out at the age of 20. The moment he was out he had no way of regulation and self control. Within a few years he went from lean to looking like Chef Boyardee(he was a chef and wore similar attire). That rapid weight gain was suspected to place too much stress on his heart and cause that premature heart attack. You're doing it right, teach them to make better choices while emulating a healthier lifestyle. Of course don't have all the crap food available in the house all the time either.
Hi! "Child" here. My mom got me introduced to keto (+ intermittent fasting) a few months ago, and I feel great. My headaches and body aches are gone, and I find myself feeling a lot more energetic and happy. I also lost 14 pounds! (115 pounds to 101 pounds.) My advice would be to take it slow. It took about two weeks for me to fully transfer to intermittent fasting- and it helped me a lot with craving/hunger waves.
So glad you posted this!!! I have a 6 year old son and 13 year old daughter. i have never been one to make different meals for each member of my family, you eat what i make…. But!,.. now that i am on keto it has been hard. I dont want to make everyone else eat only the things i am allowed. Hearing your opinion has eased my heart. Although we all will share the same proteins and such… i wont limit actual bread for their sandwiches or tortillas for burritos. I am the only one in my home that struggles with weight and have always neglected my body of proper nutrients. Anyway, thank you again!
I would never put my child on KETO (5 year old under weight already) BUT, wife is a pediatrician and sees many kids as young as 6 year old with Nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD). In this instance KETO (not fasting) or very low carb would be a great strategy for these children. I love that you touched on this subject, most of us who watch your channel have kids or grand kids. Maybe you can do a video on research in this area I am sure it would be beneficial to many of your viewers. Thanks as always for the great content.
Yup I think it's less about the child's age, and all about recognizing the metabolic signs as to what is happening in their bodies with the way they are currently eating.
My son is 19, practically ripped, and he does 40 hour fasts with us and 16s all week. We've done this with him because he had autism when he was 5, still has leaky gut issues/heavy metals, and is on the spectrum. It seems to help a lot but does require discipline and parents who agree with each other. We're not asking him to do anything we're not doing.
@@explaincauseidontgetit3294 We've been on some form of low carb for about 3 years; my son has probably been doing it with us for about 2 of those years. We tested it on ourselves first before bringing him into it because we wanted to learn more about it first. Since I made the original post on this site we've had Delta and have made more adjustments to our diet. Still tweaking it and learning....
I wish I knew about keto when I was 5 years old, I suffered for so long. I'm 35 now and the last 3 years have been the best years of my life with keto.
@@angelwhispers2060 yea I understand what he’s talking about. I’m just saying for me as a seventeen year old fasting is way healthier than being obease
Finally thank you! I have been waiting for you to talk about this and reading the other comments I think we all agree to do more videos around this subject please!
Idk what I'm doing is ok. It's such a touchy subject. My husband and I are pretty strict on our keto diet but we still carb cycle about every two weeks and get a pizza for the kids. The kids still eat bananas and oranges and I give them a bit of apple juice that I water down. When we go to parties I let them eat what they want. My 2 year old daughter guzzles grass fed milk. It's so expensive but she likes it so much we are willing to pay for the good stuff.
My only suggestion is be less focused on food. Processed and bought pre-prepared food is where all the hidden sugar, salt, and fats are so if you're only using food you cook or eat raw then there is no reason to put restrictions on it or overthink it Eat according to your energy levels and teach your kids food and cooking literacy. The truth is that most people are in a perfectly fine range of healthy but we needlessly stress ourselves to be better, instead of enjoying the moment. If your aren't training to be an olympian just enjoy your food
It is not putting your child on a diet, it is having a diet lifestyle that is proper for a human. There is no essential carbohydrate. My god, this video is how to overthinking 101
Yes Keto is good, but your primal goal should be "have a regular exercise routine", "non-junk food diet" and "intermittent fasting". If you have completed these, then you should try keto too
@@canahmetdarama354 Intermittent fasting is bs and should be switched with proper rest and recovery. Eating or not eating at certain times isn't unlocking some hidden physiological potential. You could spread your calories throughout the day however you want and your body would adapt
Our 5 year old daughter is on a traditional ketogenic diet for seizure prevention. She sees a dietitian annually, complete with fasting blood labs. This diet has been sssooo good for her. I highly recommend it with consulting your pediatrician.
For someone with a neurological disorder the ketogenic diet can be protective as well as work to no inhibit medication . However, if it were the case where the person/kid is a neurologically healthy athlete then the keto diet would be harmful
I was on a 5 hour eating window when I was a child, noon and 4.30pm because I never had breakfast, only school lunch and early home cooked dinner, zero snacks nor soft drinks. So my "fasting window" was 19 hours and I was rarely hungry in the mornings, so must have been ketogenic for part of each day. However, I was overweight since I was a baby and metabolically unhealthy throughout my life until I started keto two years ago. As an adult I still only ate two meals a day, but at noon and when I returned home after work, sometimes 7pm, but often much later. I was metabolically dysfunctional despite only two meals and no snacks as an adult too...
I’m 17 and i do keto, i started back in 2019 summer and did it for a month and only got off because school was coming up and there’s no realistic way i could do keto at school, in 2020 I stopped because i finally got the keto rash but i got on it again this year and it’s super easy once it’s past day 2 and my depressive mood got less bad, but I got the keto rash. My experience is only positive and I lost fat, not muscle, but the keto rash is definitely a problem and sometimes i’ll have to up my carbs to 50 or take two days of regular diet in order to fix it up
That Dear Thomas were right great! Love how the story was very serious then at the end it's ok to Keto, then once while come away briefly. See you tomorrow. From Craig. Thanks Thomas.
My 11 year old son no longer gets motor tics. Its unbelievable how this way of eating helps in so many ways! I tried so many things to help him with his tics. Going keto has been the only thing that has helped. He also lost weight which was a plus for him.
I'd leave kids alone. They need to eat everything, like playing in the dirt. It will be the best thing for them. Train them to eat more whole foods, and treat sugar as something to have; occasionally, but let them live. The last thing kids need put in their head is an obsession with what they eat. It would, probably, do more harm than good.
I disagree... as parents we are showing and teaching our children HOW to eat for the rest of their lives. My parents sadly let me drink a six pack of coke a day as young teenager.. eating 100 grams of sugar a day is insane.. this is what is leading to childhood diabetes..
I'm in a group that pushes full-time keto for kids. They like to act like everyone not feeding their kids strict keto is giving them Doritos and Coke. I don't let my kids eat or drink crap, but I can't imagine limiting their diet to strict keto. It is summer in CA, and my kids will definitely pick and eat cherries and peaches! My oldest is 14. He is 6'1" and slim and has clear skin, so I have to think I'm doing something right.
Agree. We are Keto and the kid has a few carbs here and there when she wants it and she’s doing great, knows exactly what sugar does to her body and doesn’t overdo it. When she’s an adult she can make the choice to continue wholeheartedly.
@@cristinaramirez1174 In my comment, I mentioned training them how to eat the best. But, I believe exposing children to all foods builds their gut and immune system, and prevents allergies and intolerances. So, let them have their fast food, once a month. Let them have Coke on a movie night, sweets at parties, etc. Your parents and mine didn't know better, honestly, raising us. We have tons of information, now. I was the baby of a family of five switching back from diet soda to regular soda, and I got lectured on how horrible that was to do. Well, aspartame was just as bad or worse. Now, I'm soda free.
There is no need to put a child on a keto diet. Even if the child is overweight or suffers from metabolic syndrome, their bodies are so quick to adapt, that simply putting them on a lower carb diet, relative to the average American diet, and cutting out snacking will be enough for them to restore insulin sensitivity and lose the weight. The more extreme macronutrient ratios stipulated by most keto adherents only makes sense after years of metabolic damage, which tend to develop after several decades of bad dietary habits.
Low carb without the extra fat that you get while on keto just leaves the child hungry and more likely to give in and eat something. The fat consumption satiates you and allows you to go longer between meals. There’s nothing extreme about keto. I would say the American diet is extreme and keto is the natural way we should be eating. Our ancestors only did it for about 6 million years give or take a few thousand. I’d say it the proper human diet.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v I don’t know why some people have a problem sticking to it. If it can’t be hunted, fished, caged and a few things picked. Don’t eat it. My wife and I along with our 3 and 7 year old love it. I would have been eating this way for the last 40 years had I not been told by all the quack doctors that you have to eat low fat and count calories as I (well you know) GET FAT!
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v 😂 I sure hope you meant this as a joke. This is the same BS as they’ve been saying for years only a little bit more against sugar but wait not against sugar or are they against sugar? High intake of sugar creates insulin resistance which essentially is type two diabetes along with that is obesity so the sugar created the obesity but not insulin resistance? How do they explain skinny people with type 2 diabetes? I trust nothing from these quacks they make it up as they go just like climate scientist. I mean come on we destroyed the worlds economy and possible our country over a virus equivalent to a cold. We have people still walking around in masks that literally on the package says they do not protect you from viruses all because some doctor said we should. A doctor that was caught how many times with no mask on! Oh man I’m getting on a rant 😂 I’ll just leave this where it is other then take nutritional advice from doctors with a grain of salt considering they have no nutritional training.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v everyone is more satiated on high carb low fat at least until you need that next meal. I can’t imagine trying to fast with my body craving carbs. I have yet to meet anyone that is satiated on low carb low fat. I know a lot of people that try low carb (as I did) and hungry all the time until they give in. I’ve never went 5 hours without eating other then sleep in my life until keto now I eat once a day. High carb low fat is from the food pyramid it was the same diet for feeding cattle for slaughter. Just take a look around and see it’s results. I have to laugh there are right wingers and left wingers all talking about a civil war 😂😂😂 it would be a short one cause most of the country is so damn fat they’d be winded in 15min and have to take a break for a bag of potato chips, Diet Coke and of course an insulin shot.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v Dude we’ve been eating high carb low fat and counting calories since the 70’s and everyone has gotten fatter with more cancer, diabetes and obesity. Controlled studies are just that controlled they mean nothing to real life. This doctor says this, and that doctor says that. My family MD and my cardiologist are both on keto but that doesn’t legitimatize it. It is what it is. It works but I don’t think you know that cause you’ve never tried it. In fact I’m willing to bet your in your twenties and you’ve never been fat and you have time for the gym. Right? Did I claim my way of eating was better then any other way? I don’t think so I simply said it’s easier to cut carbs while eating fat because your full vs being hungry from your body craving the carbs. How am I a conspiracy theorist? What conspiracy? Is being a zealot a bad thing? Isn’t everyone a zealot about something. I’m a zealot about freedom I realize not everyone is but that’s ok as long as their ideals don’t infringe on mine. If you don’t stand for something dude you’ll fall for anything.
Back in the day, before carbohydrate was so ridiculously available and considered normal, and even heavily pushed by marketing experts, and when seasonal fruit was the only source, this wasn't a question. I think the main problem with kids is the psychological quagmire they find themselves immersed in, where the entire media, all their peers, and all the experts are pushing high carbs. If there is a way to wake up a child to this horrible reality at an early age, that could be the key. Then their own consience would guide them. At a certain age in their development, parents need to have a sit down with their kids and explain the stark reality that in fact, most of the world is trying to torture them slowly and stymie their development while profiting from their suffering. If neither parent knows this, then there is very little hope.
I did Keto on my second year of high school for 2 months and I had immense cognitive increase, focus, and retaining information, thus resulting in better grades. So I think I kind of cheated on school because of keto lol. After I stopped I still had similar cognitive performance but I had to fast to remain “smarter” 😂
Hey Thomas, I believe we need to re-think that definition/description of Keto you did at the start of the video: "The ketogenic diet mimics starvation..." that is just wrong. How eating the most nutritious (and calorie dense!) food in the planet (fatty meats & small fish, eggs, some greens, olive and coconut oil, etc, a healthy organic keto) How eating those foods can be compared with starvation? Its the complete opposite to me! Or, if you see a lion in Africa, eating the corpse of a zebra... is somehow mimicking starvation in any way? Or forget the lion, think of the Hunter-gatherers from the past, and the present, like the Hadza in Tanzania, hunting a wild pig or something and eating it... How what is the natural way of things, also is some trick that make your body believe that is starving?.. ok, thats my point, Im just trying to be constructive with my criticism, see you! byebye
I don't think he's referring to lack of nutrient density, but trying to point out how one metabolic process that is beneficial in a grown adult body may not be beneficial in a child's that is rapidly undergoing changes. Also to keep kids out of that "grey zone" where they're not getting enough nutrients, which would be actual nutrient deficiency or starvation.
I think he’s mixing fasting and keto together. I keep my son on keto as much as possible, but he still eats carbs naturally when he’s with friends or at school. I think trying to do a keto style is way better than letting them do the typical garbage American diet. Also TDL is so over the top strict he’s think of his typical strict diet where you don’t even eat certain fruit etc.
My child is 6 and I’ve been doing small restricted feeding windows here and there. It definitely helped lean him out. He has a high sugar/carb diet. He definitely has a high metabolism…. But I try not to feed him the second he opens his eyes unless he’s hungry. It makes all the difference between eating ice cream, cookies, popcorn, etc for dessert at night and then eating pancakes, cereal, pop tarts at the crack of dawn. He stays lean this way.
Not trying to put my kids on keto, but as hubs and I switch there will be fewer non-keto items in the house. Interested in hearing more about what keto people do for their own kids :)
My kid does it as I can’t have sugary foods and bread in the house and stay on keto. Guy is way overthinking this stuff. Keeping kids off the heavy carbs in American diets is a great start.
Im not sure if anyone in the comments has asked or mentioned, but, what about kids that are overweight? I really wish you would've included them (i don't blame you for not since your whole family is goals). Im slowly trying to change into a keto lifestyle. My husband wil eat whatever I feed him. My son is 10yr old and a bit overweight. Ever since I started implementing the keto lifestyle (although not STRICLY) I've noticed he has stretched and thinned out a bit. He's a big kid, he's 10 and he's already 5'4! So, I'm just searching for keto guidelines for kids.
Maintaining metabolic flexibility seems to be a good goal. I would keep kids away from "high density" carb sources like soda or candy (or at least keep that within reason). Nutrition can also be timed, e.g. start with a high protein / fat breakfast, allow moderate carbs later in the day.
Better yet for timing, time fiber/protein/fats based on times youre normally hungry or craving food (breakfast, dinner, maybe lunch) and plan carbs/sugar around activity. If you're going to be sitting all evening you may not necessarily need carbs/sugars, but if yourre working outside then some in the morning, as snacks, and after work for recovery is good
@@davidhenry862 When they are cooped up in school, they certainly don't need to run on carb based rocket fuel. Protein + fat should give them more steady energy in the morning. Carbs around physical activity make more sense, but keep in mind that younger kids can burn fat at a rate comparable to adult endurance athletes, and are not as good at burning muscle glycogen. There are some interesting metabolic shifts as they mature.
@@turbonyan314 Fat and protein are still rate limited metabolic substrates. The fact that kids rely more on beta oxidation for energy is only true for the fact that their basal metabolic rate is higher. During sustained increased activity they still need carbs just like adults because it is the fastest producing energy source
I have a child that had a high A1C. I am trying dirty keto. Are you saying that may be more harmful than just eating the typical American carb/ sugar loaded diet? He has lost weight and now I’m concerned that this isn’t the healthiest for him. I do allow him some grains (some rice here and there, French fries or sweet potato fries here and there). Is that more harmful when eating a more meat based diet? He’s not underweight. In fact, he’s technically still “overweight” according to the charts. But I want to make changes now if we’re going in the wrong direction. I’m bringing him back to the doctor to discuss but am wondering your thoughts. Aren’t grains a non-essential food? Do kids need carbs? Does anyone? How can I cut the garbage from my kids’ diet without putting them into ketosis?
Part of the problem with a medically formulated keto diet is that it's not necessarily designed for overall health. For example, they often include and even emphasize seed oils, at least they did in the earlier research. Also, for medical purposes, protein intake is restricted, but most people on a general keto diet don't necessarily restrict protein. A child, in general, shouldn't be limiting protein. But what about a child eating a ketoish diet that is high in fatty animal foods, which means lots of protein and animal fats but little to no seed oils? I bet such a study has never been done. Still, we know of hunter-gatherers that eat very low carb diets that are animal-based. The Hadza, according to testing done by nutritionist Mary Ruddick, are regularly in low-level ketosis. So, their diet is on the ketogenic end of the spectrum. The Hadza are among the healthiest populations on the planet. And this more ketogenic diet is also what the Hadza children are being fed. But they aren't eating a medical keto diet with seed oils and restricted protein.
I really believe in epigenetics. No one in my family was really athletic or to the degree of doing intense sports/exercise. From a young age, I've always been involved in sports, starting soccer from age 5 up to 11, I feel like that really set me up to always have good stamina when it comes to running and I have naturally stronger legs even though I don't work out my legs at this moment. When I first started keto, I was able to adapt to it pretty quickly and was able to benefit from it greatly when it came to exercising and had that extra push and drive to do go the extra mile in basketball, or do more with weights. I feel like maybe exposing keto a child at maybe around the age of 10, not too old or young, just once for a short amount of time but long enough to where they get adapted, that could set them up for the long run so when they do get older when they reach 18 or so, they can switch to keto again and be setup for it and have that biological machinery to be able to adapt to it.
I have young kids and personally I couldn’t put them on a Keto diet unless it was for therapeutic reasons. I think limiting snacking is good, I notice my kids eat their meals better (they’re part of the clean plate club 😆) when they don’t snack. Cut out the junk food, add a variety of veggies to their meals, prepare starchy veggies and offer whole grains. Not that I execute this well, but I’m working to improve how they eat overall.
I've personally settled on low carb OMAD over Keto for long term maintenance. As a 5'9 woman I probably average 60-80 net carbs a day. Meat based with veg and fruit for the most part
@@priestesslucy I basically am doing similar. I am weightlifting at 260lbs and less than 50carbs/day will leave me feeling super weak. I am still losing weight albeit 2-4lbs/month.
Keto and exercise dont go together. Your body uses mainly carbohydrates when you exercise so taking away those carbs will make you underperform. Just time your carbs prior to high energy activity and cook more than anything
@@davidhenry862 Oh I cook and I know about carbs and weightlifting. Reading keto reddit and keto fitness reddit it seems some guys can gain with less than 30g carbs. I just eat carbs if I need them. I'm still losing weight(56lbs total) and slowly gaining. I haven't tried the spoonful of maple syrup right before lifting yet. I should. Thomas did say previously on keto you may lift 5-10% less but it's about overall health. I lift about 10% more on carbs. I eat a lot of two good yogurt, perfect keto collagen, walnuts, pecans, ground turkey, cheddar cheese, orgain pea protein powder, coffee with heavy cream, unsweet black and hibiscus tea, perfect keto electrolytes(really help me do 24hour fast and immediately do leg day after), broccoli, avocado, unsweetened almond milk, mission low carb tortilla pizza's with low carb sauce. I try to eat my protein first out of a fast as that helps my digestive process. I also take Omega 3's, Magnesium, etc. It all seems to help but it is a half feeling/half regime kind of diet.
@@danlove3635 "It all seems to help but it is a half feeling/half regime kind of diet." That's really the point. You can't create prescription for exactly what people should eat, but instead need to increase their ability to self evaluate and use that information to self regulate. If you do small experiments (like trying the maple syrup) you can figure out if it is worth it for you. Then decide if its a behaviour worth sticking with. If you're always doing this you quickly figure out what works and what doesn't and then its about developing the skills necessary maintain those good habits. For exercising and working out you learn technique and form, for nutrition management you learn about what's in food and how to prepare that food. Once you have (1) the information and (2) the skills then its just about living each day and choosing the right things. But again the information isn't a prescription because circumstances change all the time, its the internal understanding of things which leads people to agency to make better decision for themselves and act on them
How is eating healthy and wanting a good healthy food relationship for your children a bad thing. Not feeding your children carbs and sugar and having them eat homemade meals. You call it what you want but we’re going back to basic and cutting out all the garbage your kids can afford to eat this way too you’re just not having them intermittent fasting or putting fat in their coffee you’re having them eat healthy from the beginning so that they have a healthier relationship with food!
im sure the big food companies think it is a "bad thin" becuz they want kids and adults on unhealthy processed foods becuz they get money and the added stuff in processed foods get people addicted to them so that means more money for big food companies
keto for kids isn't optimal imo. their energy demand is so high and don't know if the slow absorption of fats can meet that. i would stick with carbs (good ones) for my kids until they reach their teens. by then they should be mature enough to test the keto.
i think it reasonable they have good amount of veg, fruit, protein, dairy (as long as it clean, meaning not full of soy and maltodextrin and corn syrup) people survived on that for centuries before the big companies began over processing our foods
Carbohydrates are a fast energy source. Not a persistent energy source. What they need is a persistent energy source which is what you get from eating fats and proteins. I would say the best way for a child to eat is carnivore (not necessarily pure but just 100% animal only + spices, maybe some fruit or something to mimic other carnivorous animals like bears) and when they're older, let them add vegetables if they want. You also don't need to restrict when you eat (you don't have to fast). Just eat when you're hungry. It doesn't take long to fill up on meat and it lasts a long time with how slowly it digests. Perfect fuel. Take it from the other hunters in nature that clearly benefit from long runs and massive amounts of protein. Out of anything you can feed your body, meat is the best thing. It's got everything your cells need already especially if you eat nose to tail. Humans were designed to eat meat. We didn't start eating plants (outside of berries) until agriculture and there's hundreds of thousands of years of human history before that.
Hey there, thanks. My genetics are strong; I was athletic and agile as a kid and into outdoors sports activities. Nonetheless, I took in way too much sugar and carbs growing up ( my favorite was a thick layer of melty sugar on top of my morning breakfast chocolate malt'omeal ). The bad diet habits endured til I was past childbearing three wonderful sons, and 11 yrs beyond menopause when it finally caught up with me and I had gone from a size 6 to an unhealthy, prediabetic bisquit top 12. I went keto, and am back to a healthy, strong size 6 again. I'll be 59 in August.
The keto diet for epilepsy in children is a very limited diet. It isn't the keto diet for weight loss and/or lifestyle. I, personally, do not believe that it is an accurate comparison.
Hi Thomas, please help my son is one year old and I'm strongly thinking of doing keto diet. But what veg and milk should I give to him? At the moment I give him carb and formula milk. Many thanks.
I am so interested about introducing solids stage..should i or not introduce grains?? What is the right thing to do when it comes to infant stage😭Please,help ,i would love to know your opionion on that to direct me a little bit
He knows a lot but like he said himself, he's not a pediatric doctor :) I have an infant myself and if they're reducing or quitting formula/bm they need that extra iron from grains for proper brain development. Do a baby organic grain or oatmeal and you should be good to go! Banning carbs for adults makes sense because we have a lifetime of eating to undo, but LOs are gonna need all that unless you wanna breastfeed for 5 years 🤣
I agree that time restricted feeding would be more beneficial to kids. But the ultra processed carbs are deleterious for creating leaky gut, mental disorders, auto immune diseases. Ancestrally kids ate what their parents ate and that's what our metabolism adapted to.
Hey Thomas. So I'm 14, and I have actually been waiting for this video for a while. I do sports all year round, football in the fall, wrestling in the winter, and swimming for the rest, but I have always been overweight. As of now I weigh in at 237, and I have been having more and more self doubt. I do sports all year round, and I have tried different diets and workouts, but I can never seem to get under 200. Frankly, I feel embarrassed at myself, that im one if not the only kid who has to wear men's XL clothing. Should I go for it and do keto? I have been doing low carbs because I haven't been able to figure out if it is safe for someone my age. Thanks.
If you're keen on continuing exercise then keto may not be a good idea. I think that everyone can reduce their carb intake, but the keto diet is a specific physiological state that changes your energy metabolism (dont do it without a doctor to consult with). Just time carbs/sugars so that you ingest them before activity. You need extra energy to run and workout, not to sit and study (match the energy intake to what the energy output will be) Focus on learning how to cook, food prep and knife skills make the perceived effort of eating health way less. The easier it feels to cook and eat healthy the more likely you are to do it and raw food takes processing. If you're not in control of these things you need to talk to your parents about being involved because diet is the most important thing for changes in body composition and food literacy is more important when you eventually move out The second thing you can focus on is reducing sedentary time and increasing light activity time (aka walking/hiking/cleaning the house/ cooking a meal). The more you stand/walk/move around the faster your body will realize its not effective to carry that weight around. Though you already do sports they likely arent the stimulus you need to lose weight. Football and wrestling are short burst of high intensity, which doesnt burn a lot of calories. Moreover, because they can be high force activities you body may think that the extra weight is beneficial (or at least not a hindrance) 12-19 is when men typically see an increase of muscle mass and some hormonal changes. Id stay away from keto during that time because keto puts stress on the body, instead work on the health behaviors I mentioned above
Thomas I did 4 full days fasting with out food at all after that I start intermittent fasting 20:4 and I eat only keto friendly food once a day and it is one week already and I'm still 300 pounds I didn't lose even 1 pound
@@josueconiff2775 yeah when I started I didn't lose weight according to the scale until I think the 2nd or 3rd week in. But once it started to come off it went pretty fast after that. Lost 80 lbs in 4-5 months, hit a plateau for alittle while then lost another 20 lbs after 3 more months, and achieved my goal weight.
Restricting your diet that fast likely put too much stress on you body so it doesnt want to lose the weight (what if it needs it because youll continue to starve?) Think about weight loss as if you are teaching your body to trust you again. If you're too aggressive it will go into fight/flight emergency mode. Focus on reducing your sedentary time and instead of fasting eat food that has low caloric densities vegetables). Instead of staving you want to reach satiation (being pleasantly full) with low calorie intake. You do that by choosing foods you can eat a lot of but don't have a ton of calories. The best bang for your buck is learning how to cook great food for yourself. Cooking is work and reduces sedentary time because you're standing, washing, chopping etc. but it also gives you the skills and knowledge to choose food that's healthy and make it into something you'll enjoy. Again the goal is to reach satiation with low calorie intake and to increase light activity time
@@davidhenry862 that's all very true. In the beginning I did ease myself into keto as well...still would eat fruits and yogurt with granola for the first bit while cutting all the other carbs I'd previously eaten so I didn't go cold turkey no carbs right away and my body probably adjusted to it better that way
We have our kids on Paleo. They don't eat hyper palatable food. There are alternatives for pretty much anything, but they only like paleo pizza and pasta.
Epileptic diet is 1/4 ratio of protein to fat! This is not a mild ketogenic state, it is very high!!!!! in ketones,how can you compare it ! You should be prepared better for giving such info!!!!!
1. Kids would probably get better nutrition than they're getting (from fortified soy, wheat products) by eating bioavailable nutrients from meat, eggs, and dairy. 2. A low carb is the healthiest diet anyways. It's difficult to get more than 100g carbs a day unless you're eating sugar or refined carbs. You can eat an entire cup of blueberries and a cup of pistachios and remain under 50g carbs.
I think it reasonable they have good amount of veg, fruit, protein, dairy (as long as it clean, meaning not full of soy and maltodextrin and corn syrup) , people survived on that for centuries before the big companies began over processing our foods.
I'm 16, I notice that I'm in the grey area and that's why I'm ravenous, I'll add more fatty-fish and walnuts, and give it some more time. I'll give my updata after 3 days
Hey, here's a thought: Tell your kids they can eat Whatever they want, outside of the House. In the House, get them to eat actual food. There, problem solved. And I don't even have kids.
Thank you for emphasizing at the end that u can get on and off of keto. It’s something u can be flexible with, and it’s important to listen to your body and how it feels.
I guess that's why he has a disclaimer saying he's not a doctor at the beginning of the videos 🤷♀️ But Thomas will give you the truth from different angles so that YOU can decide what works for you and your family, doctors don't do that.
😆 🤣 I do feed my son everything except procecced foods. As for sugar, I don't give them candies, but eat all kind of fruits. Don't believe in Keto for children if they are healthy
how about keto for our animals? esp dogs and cats. i read something yesterday about how it might be good for our animals. we feed our animals junk. we need to do a better job
I suggest you look up the bioenergetic and metabolic needs of dogs before through around dietary terms like "keto" Dogs food is already low carb, most carbs domestic animals consume from people hand feeding them human snacks HOWEVER, there is also something to be said about stimulation and satiation. Your dog may not enjoy the same tasteless kibble everyday so Id suggest talking to your vet about foods that are safe, fit in the diet, and are easy to add to your dogs bowl. The same way you wouldn't want plain oatmeal everyday if you can smell meat cooking. If your dog is seeking food it could be about boredom more so than it is about hunger. Things that taste good are similar stimulation to chasing a toy and finding an interesting scent.
Back in the day, before carbohydrate was so ridiculously available and considered normal, and even heavily pushed by marketing experts, and when seasonal fruit was the only source, this wasn't a question. I think the main problem with kids is the psychological quagmire they find themselves immersed in, where the entire media, all their peers, and all the experts are pushing high carbs. If there is a way to wake up a child to this horrible reality at an early age, that could be the key. Then their own consience would guide them. At a certain age in their development, parents need to have a sit down with their kids and explain the stark reality that in fact, most of the world is trying to torture them slowly and stymie their development while profiting from their suffering. If neither parent knows this, then there is very little hope.
Many civilizations do fine growing up eating White Rice (Asians) or Ugali/Grits (Africans) with every meal. Nearly every processed food in the US seems to be fortified with synthetic vitamins or contain plant oils added to them nowadays. American diet also lacks iodine already and then add flouride in water and bromides in breads which competes for an already deficient mineral and it is inevitable for illness and weight gain and heavy metal accumulation.
So what my parents did (and most every adult I knew) back in the 1960"s was correct. We ate 3 meals a day, got lots of outdoor activities, dessert was a treat not available every day and once we were over the age of 3 we generally didn't snack between meals. Soda was a very rare treat and we drank a lot of water. And obesity was not a problem.
We got dessert or junk food about once a week. Seemed normal to me, but kids now eat so much junk food that they might feel like they're going to die of they don't get a treat
We only had cake on birthdays 🤣. Now kids want it all the time 🤣
Foods wernt lacking good nutrients like they are now..
Pretty much. Really not that complicated, not to mention cheaper to eat that way than what many Americans currently do.
People ate very unhealthy back then as well, but somehow were still slender. Maybe there is more to this then just the diet. I ate garbage and stayed thin and fairly healthy.
That "mini fast" window? It used to be universally enforced, from supper until breakfast, in every home, by every mother. The exception was the infant. I know the only way I was getting water after midnight was in the bathroom, and chances were good my sister had already taken the cup.
My daughter is 5 and is a type one diabetic and trust me she is very happy to be doing keto instead of being pumped full of insulin! Big pharma and the medical Community is probably mad they aren’t making any money 😂
Yeah definitely in the case of diabetic kid keto is a solution
The “fast window” is something that I’ve naturally trained my kids into. They’ve never known anything else! As far as keto for my kids, I tried at first to plunge the whole family into it & all that did was discourage me because EVERYONE COMPLAINED ABOUT EVERYTHING! Then I decided that they can eat how they want for breakfast and lunch (since they eat at school anyway) and then for dinner it will always be keto with the option of a healthy carb. I’ve started replacing their non healthy items with a “healthier” version, or by trying out making a keto version of it, if those 2 things fail then I at least try to make most things homemade so that I at least know what’s going into their food. At least this way they can learn how to balance the foods that they eat & will also hopefully remember their mom in the kitchen baking goodies all the time. ❤️
Your example is what every parent should emulate
This is a healthy approach, I agree. I too have tried to replace ingredients for better alternatives. For example, I usually make pancakes with whole wheat flour. Not that whole wheat is bad, but it’s still a grain. I now do about half whole wheat and half almond flour. I also like to use fruit as sweetener instead of sugar. 👍
@@xtinacg I have heard of disadvantages of fructose as well as a high carb and high fat diet. It seems that some alternatives may be worse.
I lost a dear friend at the age of 24 years ago to a heart attack. His mother was extremely controlling over what he ate until he moved out at the age of 20. The moment he was out he had no way of regulation and self control. Within a few years he went from lean to looking like Chef Boyardee(he was a chef and wore similar attire). That rapid weight gain was suspected to place too much stress on his heart and cause that premature heart attack. You're doing it right, teach them to make better choices while emulating a healthier lifestyle. Of course don't have all the crap food available in the house all the time either.
Hi! "Child" here.
My mom got me introduced to keto (+ intermittent fasting) a few months ago, and I feel great. My headaches and body aches are gone, and I find myself feeling a lot more energetic and happy.
I also lost 14 pounds! (115 pounds to 101 pounds.)
My advice would be to take it slow. It took about two weeks for me to fully transfer to intermittent fasting- and it helped me a lot with craving/hunger waves.
Thats awesome
So glad you posted this!!! I have a 6 year old son and 13 year old daughter. i have never been one to make different meals for each member of my family, you eat what i make…. But!,.. now that i am on keto it has been hard. I dont want to make everyone else eat only the things i am allowed. Hearing your opinion has eased my heart. Although we all will share the same proteins and such… i wont limit actual bread for their sandwiches or tortillas for burritos. I am the only one in my home that struggles with weight and have always neglected my body of proper nutrients. Anyway, thank you again!
I would never put my child on KETO (5 year old under weight already) BUT, wife is a pediatrician and sees many kids as young as 6 year old with Nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD). In this instance KETO (not fasting) or very low carb would be a great strategy for these children. I love that you touched on this subject, most of us who watch your channel have kids or grand kids. Maybe you can do a video on research in this area I am sure it would be beneficial to many of your viewers. Thanks as always for the great content.
Yup I think it's less about the child's age, and all about recognizing the metabolic signs as to what is happening in their bodies with the way they are currently eating.
My son is 19, practically ripped, and he does 40 hour fasts with us and 16s all week. We've done this with him because he had autism when he was 5, still has leaky gut issues/heavy metals, and is on the spectrum. It seems to help a lot but does require discipline and parents who agree with each other. We're not asking him to do anything we're not doing.
How long has he been on keto?
@@explaincauseidontgetit3294 We've been on some form of low carb for about 3 years; my son has probably been doing it with us for about 2 of those years. We tested it on ourselves first before bringing him into it because we wanted to learn more about it first. Since I made the original post on this site we've had Delta and have made more adjustments to our diet. Still tweaking it and learning....
@@keviniverson5569 awesome! Leaky gut and heavy metals, totally understand. Hope you guys are on the mend after that sickness, wow, it’s rough!
Do you notice any cognition or behavioral benefits/ differences?
I would like to see what your kids eat in a day
Me too
Please
Yess please❤️!!!
Yes yes yes!! This would be a fantastic follow up to this video
Me tooooo!
I wish I knew about keto when I was 5 years old, I suffered for so long. I'm 35 now and the last 3 years have been the best years of my life with keto.
I'd also consider trying to limit and avoid the refined junk, sugar and seed oils.... for everyone.
Thanks for bringing it up. I'll keep that in mind while I'm in college for pediatric nutrition.
I’m 17 and I do alternate day fasting and keto.
Same
By the time you hit 17 your body is mostly developed. he's talking about not doing it for children that are 15 years and younger.
@@angelwhispers2060 yea I understand what he’s talking about. I’m just saying for me as a seventeen year old fasting is way healthier than being obease
@@Jacobsai116 nice whats your motivation? I’m doing it for weight loss, I am 234 rn :( and 5”9. My goal is 200-195.
Finally thank you! I have been waiting for you to talk about this and reading the other comments I think we all agree to do more videos around this subject please!
Yes! Include the keto effects/benefits on overweight kids & what do his kids eat!
Great! Keto 10years. I apply a mostly organic and grass-fed whole food diet with measured carbs for my children.
Idk what I'm doing is ok. It's such a touchy subject. My husband and I are pretty strict on our keto diet but we still carb cycle about every two weeks and get a pizza for the kids.
The kids still eat bananas and oranges and I give them a bit of apple juice that I water down.
When we go to parties I let them eat what they want.
My 2 year old daughter guzzles grass fed milk. It's so expensive but she likes it so much we are willing to pay for the good stuff.
My only suggestion is be less focused on food. Processed and bought pre-prepared food is where all the hidden sugar, salt, and fats are so if you're only using food you cook or eat raw then there is no reason to put restrictions on it or overthink it
Eat according to your energy levels and teach your kids food and cooking literacy. The truth is that most people are in a perfectly fine range of healthy but we needlessly stress ourselves to be better, instead of enjoying the moment.
If your aren't training to be an olympian just enjoy your food
I'd say let them get some healthy grains, but you're probably doing great :) I have two toddlers and I'm navigating this question myself
It is not putting your child on a diet, it is having a diet lifestyle that is proper for a human. There is no essential carbohydrate. My god, this video is how to overthinking 101
I am an 11 year old loving your videos and this video is an interesting one. Hope I can hop and do keto
Yes Keto is good, but your primal goal should be "have a regular exercise routine", "non-junk food diet" and "intermittent fasting". If you have completed these, then you should try keto too
same and im ur age
@@canahmetdarama354 Intermittent fasting is bs and should be switched with proper rest and recovery.
Eating or not eating at certain times isn't unlocking some hidden physiological potential. You could spread your calories throughout the day however you want and your body would adapt
Na man come on over to Greg Doucette’s channel
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Our 5 year old daughter is on a traditional ketogenic diet for seizure prevention. She sees a dietitian annually, complete with fasting blood labs. This diet has been sssooo good for her. I highly recommend it with consulting your pediatrician.
For someone with a neurological disorder the ketogenic diet can be protective as well as work to no inhibit medication . However, if it were the case where the person/kid is a neurologically healthy athlete then the keto diet would be harmful
I was on a 5 hour eating window when I was a child, noon and 4.30pm because I never had breakfast, only school lunch and early home cooked dinner, zero snacks nor soft drinks. So my "fasting window" was 19 hours and I was rarely hungry in the mornings, so must have been ketogenic for part of each day. However, I was overweight since I was a baby and metabolically unhealthy throughout my life until I started keto two years ago. As an adult I still only ate two meals a day, but at noon and when I returned home after work, sometimes 7pm, but often much later. I was metabolically dysfunctional despite only two meals and no snacks as an adult too...
I’m 17 and i do keto, i started back in 2019 summer and did it for a month and only got off because school was coming up and there’s no realistic way i could do keto at school, in 2020 I stopped because i finally got the keto rash but i got on it again this year and it’s super easy once it’s past day 2 and my depressive mood got less bad, but I got the keto rash. My experience is only positive and I lost fat, not muscle, but the keto rash is definitely a problem and sometimes i’ll have to up my carbs to 50 or take two days of regular diet in order to fix it up
I've been waiting for this one.
Thanks Tom.
That Dear Thomas were right great! Love how the story was very serious then at the end it's ok to Keto, then once while come away briefly. See you tomorrow.
From Craig. Thanks Thomas.
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My 11 year old son no longer gets motor tics. Its unbelievable how this way of eating helps in so many ways! I tried so many things to help him with his tics. Going keto has been the only thing that has helped. He also lost weight which was a plus for him.
I'd leave kids alone. They need to eat everything, like playing in the dirt. It will be the best thing for them. Train them to eat more whole foods, and treat sugar as something to have; occasionally, but let them live. The last thing kids need put in their head is an obsession with what they eat. It would, probably, do more harm than good.
I disagree... as parents we are showing and teaching our children HOW to eat for the rest of their lives. My parents sadly let me drink a six pack of coke a day as young teenager.. eating 100 grams of sugar a day is insane.. this is what is leading to childhood diabetes..
I'm in a group that pushes full-time keto for kids. They like to act like everyone not feeding their kids strict keto is giving them Doritos and Coke. I don't let my kids eat or drink crap, but I can't imagine limiting their diet to strict keto. It is summer in CA, and my kids will definitely pick and eat cherries and peaches! My oldest is 14. He is 6'1" and slim and has clear skin, so I have to think I'm doing something right.
Agree. We are Keto and the kid has a few carbs here and there when she wants it and she’s doing great, knows exactly what sugar does to her body and doesn’t overdo it. When she’s an adult she can make the choice to continue wholeheartedly.
@@cristinaramirez1174 In my comment, I mentioned training them how to eat the best. But, I believe exposing children to all foods builds their gut and immune system, and prevents allergies and intolerances. So, let them have their fast food, once a month. Let them have Coke on a movie night, sweets at parties, etc. Your parents and mine didn't know better, honestly, raising us. We have tons of information, now. I was the baby of a family of five switching back from diet soda to regular soda, and I got lectured on how horrible that was to do. Well, aspartame was just as bad or worse. Now, I'm soda free.
Great.. but what caught me was you're statement of "I'd leave kids alone.." we know better, no?
There is no need to put a child on a keto diet. Even if the child is overweight or suffers from metabolic syndrome, their bodies are so quick to adapt, that simply putting them on a lower carb diet, relative to the average American diet, and cutting out snacking will be enough for them to restore insulin sensitivity and lose the weight. The more extreme macronutrient ratios stipulated by most keto adherents only makes sense after years of metabolic damage, which tend to develop after several decades of bad dietary habits.
Low carb without the extra fat that you get while on keto just leaves the child hungry and more likely to give in and eat something. The fat consumption satiates you and allows you to go longer between meals. There’s nothing extreme about keto. I would say the American diet is extreme and keto is the natural way we should be eating. Our ancestors only did it for about 6 million years give or take a few thousand. I’d say it the proper human diet.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v I don’t know why some people have a problem sticking to it. If it can’t be hunted, fished, caged and a few things picked. Don’t eat it. My wife and I along with our 3 and 7 year old love it. I would have been eating this way for the last 40 years had I not been told by all the quack doctors that you have to eat low fat and count calories as I (well you know) GET FAT!
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v 😂 I sure hope you meant this as a joke. This is the same BS as they’ve been saying for years only a little bit more against sugar but wait not against sugar or are they against sugar? High intake of sugar creates insulin resistance which essentially is type two diabetes along with that is obesity so the sugar created the obesity but not insulin resistance? How do they explain skinny people with type 2 diabetes? I trust nothing from these quacks they make it up as they go just like climate scientist. I mean come on we destroyed the worlds economy and possible our country over a virus equivalent to a cold. We have people still walking around in masks that literally on the package says they do not protect you from viruses all because some doctor said we should. A doctor that was caught how many times with no mask on! Oh man I’m getting on a rant 😂 I’ll just leave this where it is other then take nutritional advice from doctors with a grain of salt considering they have no nutritional training.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v everyone is more satiated on high carb low fat at least until you need that next meal. I can’t imagine trying to fast with my body craving carbs. I have yet to meet anyone that is satiated on low carb low fat. I know a lot of people that try low carb (as I did) and hungry all the time until they give in. I’ve never went 5 hours without eating other then sleep in my life until keto now I eat once a day. High carb low fat is from the food pyramid it was the same diet for feeding cattle for slaughter. Just take a look around and see it’s results.
I have to laugh there are right wingers and left wingers all talking about a civil war 😂😂😂 it would be a short one cause most of the country is so damn fat they’d be winded in 15min and have to take a break for a bag of potato chips, Diet Coke and of course an insulin shot.
@@Blackandwhitecat-u9v Dude we’ve been eating high carb low fat and counting calories since the 70’s and everyone has gotten fatter with more cancer, diabetes and obesity. Controlled studies are just that controlled they mean nothing to real life. This doctor says this, and that doctor says that. My family MD and my cardiologist are both on keto but that doesn’t legitimatize it. It is what it is. It works but I don’t think you know that cause you’ve never tried it. In fact I’m willing to bet your in your twenties and you’ve never been fat and you have time for the gym. Right? Did I claim my way of eating was better then any other way? I don’t think so I simply said it’s easier to cut carbs while eating fat because your full vs being hungry from your body craving the carbs.
How am I a conspiracy theorist? What conspiracy?
Is being a zealot a bad thing? Isn’t everyone a zealot about something. I’m a zealot about freedom I realize not everyone is but that’s ok as long as their ideals don’t infringe on mine. If you don’t stand for something dude you’ll fall for anything.
I have been on the keto diet since i was born. I am now 45 and doing great. I do however have a rather large foot growing out of my head. Curious.
Good habits start in the womb
Back in the day, before carbohydrate was so ridiculously available and considered normal, and even heavily pushed by marketing experts, and when seasonal fruit was the only source, this wasn't a question. I think the main problem with kids is the psychological quagmire they find themselves immersed in, where the entire media, all their peers, and all the experts are pushing high carbs. If there is a way to wake up a child to this horrible reality at an early age, that could be the key. Then their own consience would guide them. At a certain age in their development, parents need to have a sit down with their kids and explain the stark reality that in fact, most of the world is trying to torture them slowly and stymie their development while profiting from their suffering. If neither parent knows this, then there is very little hope.
I did Keto on my second year of high school for 2 months and I had immense cognitive increase, focus, and retaining information, thus resulting in better grades. So I think I kind of cheated on school because of keto lol. After I stopped I still had similar cognitive performance but I had to fast to remain “smarter” 😂
Gotta love the natural cognitive benefits from keto! Tells you what the brain's preferred fuel source is, and it isn't carbs.
Hey Thomas, I believe we need to re-think that definition/description of Keto you did at the start of the video: "The ketogenic diet mimics starvation..." that is just wrong. How eating the most nutritious (and calorie dense!) food in the planet (fatty meats & small fish, eggs, some greens, olive and coconut oil, etc, a healthy organic keto) How eating those foods can be compared with starvation? Its the complete opposite to me! Or, if you see a lion in Africa, eating the corpse of a zebra... is somehow mimicking starvation in any way? Or forget the lion, think of the Hunter-gatherers from the past, and the present, like the Hadza in Tanzania, hunting a wild pig or something and eating it... How what is the natural way of things, also is some trick that make your body believe that is starving?.. ok, thats my point, Im just trying to be constructive with my criticism, see you! byebye
I don't think he's referring to lack of nutrient density, but trying to point out how one metabolic process that is beneficial in a grown adult body may not be beneficial in a child's that is rapidly undergoing changes.
Also to keep kids out of that "grey zone" where they're not getting enough nutrients, which would be actual nutrient deficiency or starvation.
@@cocoq10 exactly!
I think he’s mixing fasting and keto together. I keep my son on keto as much as possible, but he still eats carbs naturally when he’s with friends or at school. I think trying to do a keto style is way better than letting them do the typical garbage American diet. Also TDL is so over the top strict he’s think of his typical strict diet where you don’t even eat certain fruit etc.
My child is 6 and I’ve been doing small restricted feeding windows here and there. It definitely helped lean him out. He has a high sugar/carb diet. He definitely has a high metabolism…. But I try not to feed him the second he opens his eyes unless he’s hungry. It makes all the difference between eating ice cream, cookies, popcorn, etc for dessert at night and then eating pancakes, cereal, pop tarts at the crack of dawn. He stays lean this way.
Not trying to put my kids on keto, but as hubs and I switch there will be fewer non-keto items in the house. Interested in hearing more about what keto people do for their own kids :)
My kid does it as I can’t have sugary foods and bread in the house and stay on keto. Guy is way overthinking this stuff. Keeping kids off the heavy carbs in American diets is a great start.
Im not sure if anyone in the comments has asked or mentioned, but, what about kids that are overweight? I really wish you would've included them (i don't blame you for not since your whole family is goals). Im slowly trying to change into a keto lifestyle. My husband wil eat whatever I feed him. My son is 10yr old and a bit overweight. Ever since I started implementing the keto lifestyle (although not STRICLY) I've noticed he has stretched and thinned out a bit. He's a big kid, he's 10 and he's already 5'4! So, I'm just searching for keto guidelines for kids.
Maintaining metabolic flexibility seems to be a good goal. I would keep kids away from "high density" carb sources like soda or candy (or at least keep that within reason). Nutrition can also be timed, e.g. start with a high protein / fat breakfast, allow moderate carbs later in the day.
Better yet for timing, time fiber/protein/fats based on times youre normally hungry or craving food (breakfast, dinner, maybe lunch) and plan carbs/sugar around activity.
If you're going to be sitting all evening you may not necessarily need carbs/sugars, but if yourre working outside then some in the morning, as snacks, and after work for recovery is good
@@davidhenry862 When they are cooped up in school, they certainly don't need to run on carb based rocket fuel. Protein + fat should give them more steady energy in the morning. Carbs around physical activity make more sense, but keep in mind that younger kids can burn fat at a rate comparable to adult endurance athletes, and are not as good at burning muscle glycogen. There are some interesting metabolic shifts as they mature.
@@turbonyan314 Fat and protein are still rate limited metabolic substrates. The fact that kids rely more on beta oxidation for energy is only true for the fact that their basal metabolic rate is higher. During sustained increased activity they still need carbs just like adults because it is the fastest producing energy source
Thanks for the video Thomas!
I totally agree agree with you.
God bless you and your beautiful family ☘
That was a good breakdown.
I have a child that had a high A1C. I am trying dirty keto. Are you saying that may be more harmful than just eating the typical American carb/ sugar loaded diet? He has lost weight and now I’m concerned that this isn’t the healthiest for him. I do allow him some grains (some rice here and there, French fries or sweet potato fries here and there). Is that more harmful when eating a more meat based diet? He’s not underweight. In fact, he’s technically still “overweight” according to the charts. But I want to make changes now if we’re going in the wrong direction. I’m bringing him back to the doctor to discuss but am wondering your thoughts. Aren’t grains a non-essential food? Do kids need carbs? Does anyone? How can I cut the garbage from my kids’ diet without putting them into ketosis?
Part of the problem with a medically formulated keto diet is that it's not necessarily designed for overall health. For example, they often include and even emphasize seed oils, at least they did in the earlier research.
Also, for medical purposes, protein intake is restricted, but most people on a general keto diet don't necessarily restrict protein. A child, in general, shouldn't be limiting protein.
But what about a child eating a ketoish diet that is high in fatty animal foods, which means lots of protein and animal fats but little to no seed oils? I bet such a study has never been done.
Still, we know of hunter-gatherers that eat very low carb diets that are animal-based. The Hadza, according to testing done by nutritionist Mary Ruddick, are regularly in low-level ketosis. So, their diet is on the ketogenic end of the spectrum.
The Hadza are among the healthiest populations on the planet. And this more ketogenic diet is also what the Hadza children are being fed. But they aren't eating a medical keto diet with seed oils and restricted protein.
I really believe in epigenetics. No one in my family was really athletic or to the degree of doing intense sports/exercise. From a young age, I've always been involved in sports, starting soccer from age 5 up to 11, I feel like that really set me up to always have good stamina when it comes to running and I have naturally stronger legs even though I don't work out my legs at this moment. When I first started keto, I was able to adapt to it pretty quickly and was able to benefit from it greatly when it came to exercising and had that extra push and drive to do go the extra mile in basketball, or do more with weights. I feel like maybe exposing keto a child at maybe around the age of 10, not too old or young, just once for a short amount of time but long enough to where they get adapted, that could set them up for the long run so when they do get older when they reach 18 or so, they can switch to keto again and be setup for it and have that biological machinery to be able to adapt to it.
I have young kids and personally I couldn’t put them on a Keto diet unless it was for therapeutic reasons. I think limiting snacking is good, I notice my kids eat their meals better (they’re part of the clean plate club 😆) when they don’t snack. Cut out the junk food, add a variety of veggies to their meals, prepare starchy veggies and offer whole grains. Not that I execute this well, but I’m working to improve how they eat overall.
You’re doing a great job! ❤️
This has been one of my bigger questions. What should your diet be from birth to death assuming you want to focus on Keto/fasting/exercise etc?
I've personally settled on low carb OMAD over Keto for long term maintenance.
As a 5'9 woman I probably average 60-80 net carbs a day.
Meat based with veg and fruit for the most part
@@priestesslucy I basically am doing similar. I am weightlifting at 260lbs and less than 50carbs/day will leave me feeling super weak. I am still losing weight albeit 2-4lbs/month.
Keto and exercise dont go together. Your body uses mainly carbohydrates when you exercise so taking away those carbs will make you underperform. Just time your carbs prior to high energy activity and cook more than anything
@@davidhenry862 Oh I cook and I know about carbs and weightlifting. Reading keto reddit and keto fitness reddit it seems some guys can gain with less than 30g carbs. I just eat carbs if I need them. I'm still losing weight(56lbs total) and slowly gaining. I haven't tried the spoonful of maple syrup right before lifting yet. I should. Thomas did say previously on keto you may lift 5-10% less but it's about overall health. I lift about 10% more on carbs. I eat a lot of two good yogurt, perfect keto collagen, walnuts, pecans, ground turkey, cheddar cheese, orgain pea protein powder, coffee with heavy cream, unsweet black and hibiscus tea, perfect keto electrolytes(really help me do 24hour fast and immediately do leg day after), broccoli, avocado, unsweetened almond milk, mission low carb tortilla pizza's with low carb sauce. I try to eat my protein first out of a fast as that helps my digestive process. I also take Omega 3's, Magnesium, etc. It all seems to help but it is a half feeling/half regime kind of diet.
@@danlove3635 "It all seems to help but it is a half feeling/half regime kind of diet."
That's really the point. You can't create prescription for exactly what people should eat, but instead need to increase their ability to self evaluate and use that information to self regulate.
If you do small experiments (like trying the maple syrup) you can figure out if it is worth it for you. Then decide if its a behaviour worth sticking with. If you're always doing this you quickly figure out what works and what doesn't and then its about developing the skills necessary maintain those good habits.
For exercising and working out you learn technique and form, for nutrition management you learn about what's in food and how to prepare that food. Once you have (1) the information and (2) the skills then its just about living each day and choosing the right things. But again the information isn't a prescription because circumstances change all the time, its the internal understanding of things which leads people to agency to make better decision for themselves and act on them
How is eating healthy and wanting a good healthy food relationship for your children a bad thing. Not feeding your children carbs and sugar and having them eat homemade meals. You call it what you want but we’re going back to basic and cutting out all the garbage your kids can afford to eat this way too you’re just not having them intermittent fasting or putting fat in their coffee you’re having them eat healthy from the beginning so that they have a healthier relationship with food!
Coffee? Wow, amazing that a parent would start wrecking a child's adrenals and nervous system early on.
im sure the big food companies think it is a "bad thin" becuz they want kids and adults on unhealthy processed foods becuz they get money and the added stuff in processed foods get people addicted to them so that means more money for big food companies
Great topic and presentation!
Im 16 and did keto for 2 weeks, felt great but parents forced me to get off it because of "risks to stunt growth"
All diets have pros and cons.
Really? What’s the pro’s of vegan?
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This is a great analysis ! Thank you Thomas !
I agree with what your saying. Snacking affects the insulin in a bad way. Restrictive eating is very helpful.
I've been waiting for this😁
keto for kids isn't optimal imo. their energy demand is so high and don't know if the slow absorption of fats can meet that. i would stick with carbs (good ones) for my kids until they reach their teens. by then they should be mature enough to test the keto.
i think it reasonable they have good amount of veg, fruit, protein, dairy (as long as it clean, meaning not full of soy and maltodextrin and corn syrup)
people survived on that for centuries before the big companies began over processing our foods
Carbohydrates are a fast energy source. Not a persistent energy source. What they need is a persistent energy source which is what you get from eating fats and proteins. I would say the best way for a child to eat is carnivore (not necessarily pure but just 100% animal only + spices, maybe some fruit or something to mimic other carnivorous animals like bears) and when they're older, let them add vegetables if they want. You also don't need to restrict when you eat (you don't have to fast). Just eat when you're hungry. It doesn't take long to fill up on meat and it lasts a long time with how slowly it digests. Perfect fuel. Take it from the other hunters in nature that clearly benefit from long runs and massive amounts of protein.
Out of anything you can feed your body, meat is the best thing. It's got everything your cells need already especially if you eat nose to tail. Humans were designed to eat meat. We didn't start eating plants (outside of berries) until agriculture and there's hundreds of thousands of years of human history before that.
Hey there, thanks. My genetics are strong; I was athletic and agile as a kid and into outdoors sports activities. Nonetheless, I took in way too much sugar and carbs growing up ( my favorite was a thick layer of melty sugar on top of my morning breakfast chocolate malt'omeal ). The bad diet habits endured til I was past childbearing three wonderful sons, and 11 yrs beyond menopause when it finally caught up with me and I had gone from a size 6 to an unhealthy, prediabetic bisquit top 12. I went keto, and am back to a healthy, strong size 6 again. I'll be 59 in August.
stomach ph? blood ph? which ph? the ph is supposed to be different in different parts if the body.
The keto diet for epilepsy in children is a very limited diet. It isn't the keto diet for weight loss and/or lifestyle. I, personally, do not believe that it is an accurate comparison.
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Hi Thomas, please help my son is one year old and I'm strongly thinking of doing keto diet. But what veg and milk should I give to him? At the moment I give him carb and formula milk. Many thanks.
love this video never even considered the effect on kids, very interesting watch!
i think they should eat nose to tail and that would include bones. Keto with just beef and fat wont have all the minerals
Thank you for sharing now I don't have to be so strict with my daughter to do strict keto.
I am so interested about introducing solids stage..should i or not introduce grains?? What is the right thing to do when it comes to infant stage😭Please,help ,i would love to know your opionion on that to direct me a little bit
He knows a lot but like he said himself, he's not a pediatric doctor :) I have an infant myself and if they're reducing or quitting formula/bm they need that extra iron from grains for proper brain development. Do a baby organic grain or oatmeal and you should be good to go! Banning carbs for adults makes sense because we have a lifetime of eating to undo, but LOs are gonna need all that unless you wanna breastfeed for 5 years 🤣
What if a child is obese? How would they shed the excess weight?
I agree that time restricted feeding would be more beneficial to kids. But the ultra processed carbs are deleterious for creating leaky gut, mental disorders, auto immune diseases. Ancestrally kids ate what their parents ate and that's what our metabolism adapted to.
Hey Thomas. So I'm 14, and I have actually been waiting for this video for a while. I do sports all year round, football in the fall, wrestling in the winter, and swimming for the rest, but I have always been overweight. As of now I weigh in at 237, and I have been having more and more self doubt. I do sports all year round, and I have tried different diets and workouts, but I can never seem to get under 200. Frankly, I feel embarrassed at myself, that im one if not the only kid who has to wear men's XL clothing. Should I go for it and do keto? I have been doing low carbs because I haven't been able to figure out if it is safe for someone my age. Thanks.
If you're keen on continuing exercise then keto may not be a good idea. I think that everyone can reduce their carb intake, but the keto diet is a specific physiological state that changes your energy metabolism (dont do it without a doctor to consult with). Just time carbs/sugars so that you ingest them before activity. You need extra energy to run and workout, not to sit and study (match the energy intake to what the energy output will be)
Focus on learning how to cook, food prep and knife skills make the perceived effort of eating health way less. The easier it feels to cook and eat healthy the more likely you are to do it and raw food takes processing. If you're not in control of these things you need to talk to your parents about being involved because diet is the most important thing for changes in body composition and food literacy is more important when you eventually move out
The second thing you can focus on is reducing sedentary time and increasing light activity time (aka walking/hiking/cleaning the house/ cooking a meal). The more you stand/walk/move around the faster your body will realize its not effective to carry that weight around. Though you already do sports they likely arent the stimulus you need to lose weight. Football and wrestling are short burst of high intensity, which doesnt burn a lot of calories. Moreover, because they can be high force activities you body may think that the extra weight is beneficial (or at least not a hindrance)
12-19 is when men typically see an increase of muscle mass and some hormonal changes. Id stay away from keto during that time because keto puts stress on the body, instead work on the health behaviors I mentioned above
@@davidhenry862 Thank you for the advice. I will try and work on all of your points.
Thomas I did 4 full days fasting with out food at all after that I start intermittent fasting 20:4 and I eat only keto friendly food once a day and it is one week already and I'm still 300 pounds I didn't lose even 1 pound
Weight doesnt determine fat loss!
@@josueconiff2775 yeah when I started I didn't lose weight according to the scale until I think the 2nd or 3rd week in. But once it started to come off it went pretty fast after that. Lost 80 lbs in 4-5 months, hit a plateau for alittle while then lost another 20 lbs after 3 more months, and achieved my goal weight.
Restricting your diet that fast likely put too much stress on you body so it doesnt want to lose the weight (what if it needs it because youll continue to starve?)
Think about weight loss as if you are teaching your body to trust you again. If you're too aggressive it will go into fight/flight emergency mode.
Focus on reducing your sedentary time and instead of fasting eat food that has low caloric densities vegetables). Instead of staving you want to reach satiation (being pleasantly full) with low calorie intake. You do that by choosing foods you can eat a lot of but don't have a ton of calories.
The best bang for your buck is learning how to cook great food for yourself. Cooking is work and reduces sedentary time because you're standing, washing, chopping etc. but it also gives you the skills and knowledge to choose food that's healthy and make it into something you'll enjoy. Again the goal is to reach satiation with low calorie intake and to increase light activity time
@@davidhenry862 that's all very true. In the beginning I did ease myself into keto as well...still would eat fruits and yogurt with granola for the first bit while cutting all the other carbs I'd previously eaten so I didn't go cold turkey no carbs right away and my body probably adjusted to it better that way
U are lying.
We have our kids on Paleo. They don't eat hyper palatable food. There are alternatives for pretty much anything, but they only like paleo pizza and pasta.
i miss pasta
@@86BarbOmega, same here!
I miss my noodles and congee, too!
A keto diet helps my son’s hyperactivity
Yup I noticed when I took a lot of refined carbs out of the equation at home, my son was able to focus better
Most important is to eliminate the HFCS and processed sugars first. Then address Keto if still interested
Epileptic diet is 1/4 ratio of protein to fat! This is not a mild ketogenic state, it is very high!!!!! in ketones,how can you compare it ! You should be prepared better for giving such info!!!!!
1. Kids would probably get better nutrition than they're getting (from fortified soy, wheat products) by eating bioavailable nutrients from meat, eggs, and dairy.
2. A low carb is the healthiest diet anyways. It's difficult to get more than 100g carbs a day unless you're eating sugar or refined carbs. You can eat an entire cup of blueberries and a cup of pistachios and remain under 50g carbs.
I think it reasonable they have good amount of veg, fruit, protein, dairy (as long as it clean, meaning not full of soy and maltodextrin and corn syrup)
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people survived on that for centuries before the big companies began over processing our foods.
I'm 16, I notice that I'm in the grey area and that's why I'm ravenous,
I'll add more fatty-fish and walnuts, and give it some more time.
I'll give my updata after 3 days
Hey, here's a thought:
Tell your kids they can eat Whatever they want, outside of the House. In the House, get them to eat actual food.
There, problem solved.
And I don't even have kids.
I was wondering about this yesterday. Thank you.
Me to 😁 man
It is starvation diet for rats! not humans! Explain please the Randel cycle ! People will understand better and maybe you too.
Never heard of the Randel Cycle, gonna check it out!
Thank you for emphasizing at the end that u can get on and off of keto. It’s something u can be flexible with, and it’s important to listen to your body and how it feels.
You should probably check with your doctor if it’s a child I would not imagine that the keto diet would be a good thing for a child
tell us how glyphosate ridden wheat products are good for children.
I guess that's why he has a disclaimer saying he's not a doctor at the beginning of the videos 🤷♀️
But Thomas will give you the truth from different angles so that YOU can decide what works for you and your family, doctors don't do that.
Are you sure your not a pediatric dietician?
Confusing
What were the children fed in those studies? I bet you they were not on a healthy version of Keto
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Rip to any kid that is forced to have a keto diet lol
😆 🤣 I do feed my son everything except procecced foods.
As for sugar, I don't give them candies, but eat all kind of fruits.
Don't believe in Keto for children if they are healthy
Can this man ever get to point? My goodness….
The Inuets fed their toddlers mainly raw seal.
After breastfeeding high fat milk.
Watchung this video for a minute. I say no. Under 12 Vacc, no. Tatoo? Hell no.
Is keto diet safe for teens ?
Someone better call God aka George Burns because babies are born in ketosis.
Reviewed a lot of keto videos and have to say these are the clearest for idiots like me! So appreciated!
Keto diet given in kids have very low protein per Dom D Agustino
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how about keto for our animals? esp dogs and cats. i read something yesterday about how it might be good for our animals. we feed our animals junk. we need to do a better job
i meant more IF thank Keto
Keto for animals ??? 🤔🤔🤔🧐
dogs are carnivores.
I suggest you look up the bioenergetic and metabolic needs of dogs before through around dietary terms like "keto"
Dogs food is already low carb, most carbs domestic animals consume from people hand feeding them human snacks
HOWEVER, there is also something to be said about stimulation and satiation. Your dog may not enjoy the same tasteless kibble everyday so Id suggest talking to your vet about foods that are safe, fit in the diet, and are easy to add to your dogs bowl. The same way you wouldn't want plain oatmeal everyday if you can smell meat cooking.
If your dog is seeking food it could be about boredom more so than it is about hunger. Things that taste good are similar stimulation to chasing a toy and finding an interesting scent.
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Is 15 years old considered as a kid?
Not it is a teen
Anything below 21 is a Kid. Anything between 21 to 28 is an growing adult.
@@nikte21 i think the term teenager was created in the 1940s or 50s so they could target marketing to that demographic
@@ixplain ok thanks
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Back in the day, before carbohydrate was so ridiculously available and considered normal, and even heavily pushed by marketing experts, and when seasonal fruit was the only source, this wasn't a question. I think the main problem with kids is the psychological quagmire they find themselves immersed in, where the entire media, all their peers, and all the experts are pushing high carbs. If there is a way to wake up a child to this horrible reality at an early age, that could be the key. Then their own consience would guide them. At a certain age in their development, parents need to have a sit down with their kids and explain the stark reality that in fact, most of the world is trying to torture them slowly and stymie their development while profiting from their suffering. If neither parent knows this, then there is very little hope.
Many civilizations do fine growing up eating White Rice (Asians) or Ugali/Grits (Africans) with every meal. Nearly every processed food in the US seems to be fortified with synthetic vitamins or contain plant oils added to them nowadays. American diet also lacks iodine already and then add flouride in water and bromides in breads which competes for an already deficient mineral and it is inevitable for illness and weight gain and heavy metal accumulation.