Neuvillette is OVERRATED

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  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 6 місяців тому +87

    I was already writing my angry comment, but it was so long that I got to the actually good part of the video in time to delete it and write this instead...

  • @irena4929
    @irena4929 6 місяців тому +94

    "After all hes not really a hypercarry hes more balance his ability to apply hydro"
    Bro got held hostage by zajeff 💀

  • @mustafa3603
    @mustafa3603 6 місяців тому +58

    >walks in into neuv argument
    >"One button gameplay 🗣️🗣️"
    >Refuse to elaborate further
    >Leaves

    • @niclai3779
      @niclai3779 6 місяців тому +1

      You still watched the whole video though

    • @mustafa3603
      @mustafa3603 6 місяців тому

      @@niclai3779 i did

    • @Daddy_Of_Haruwu
      @Daddy_Of_Haruwu 4 місяці тому

      Neuvi hate is real and these guys proving it 😆😆😆

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Daddy_Of_Haruwu eh, there's way more glazing than hate from my experience.

  • @TCGSyphax
    @TCGSyphax 6 місяців тому +45

    ah yes c6r1 yelan is as strong as c1r1 neuvillette, good one lokianeule

    • @crimsonECH1DNA
      @crimsonECH1DNA 6 місяців тому +19

      neither as strong as Xingqiu though!

    • @Glast04
      @Glast04 6 місяців тому +10

      @@crimsonECH1DNAC6 Yelan mains use Xingqiu when they take dmg!

  • @itaohs5551
    @itaohs5551 6 місяців тому +14

    The whiplash from realizing it was a joke after the "you're better off using xingqiu comment" to going back into "ok but for real" lol
    Surreal to see someone using the term "overrated" properly, can't even call it clickbait.

  • @LiamHighducheck
    @LiamHighducheck 6 місяців тому +22

    Just when I think you’ve run out of hot takes I’m delighted to see another upload from you in my notifs

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +10

      It’s actually a pretty cold take this time if you watch it through lol

    • @LiamHighducheck
      @LiamHighducheck 6 місяців тому +7

      @@butterfer0808 true but the title is chef’s kiss

  • @treeleven3316
    @treeleven3316 6 місяців тому +40

    Bro it ain’t even April first yet.

  • @Boukensha123
    @Boukensha123 6 місяців тому +5

    The reason why people glorify him is because of how easy to use and to build he is.
    A neuvillette with super copium supports that only proc hydro reactions is still going to feel strong. Not very strong but still strong.

  • @andro5t
    @andro5t 6 місяців тому +48

    To me the reason why neuvillette is ground breaking is because he single handedly ended the stupid excuse of a character being fine/good because they are good in aoe no character is getting an aoe bigger than the entire abyss chamber so now if a on field character don't do enough damage in single target they are bad because neuvillette has both very high single target damage in the game and absolute aoe

    • @ajbrawlstars8844
      @ajbrawlstars8844 6 місяців тому +11

      He is excellent in single target and broken in aoe

    • @alatusedits
      @alatusedits 6 місяців тому +7

      All that and childe still clears faster even at c0 f2p weapons. Neuvillette is overrated along with hu tao

    • @thongduonghiengia7168
      @thongduonghiengia7168 6 місяців тому +3

      ​​​@@alatusedits u think childe does more dmg than neuvillette in international team at c0, then c1 neuvillette? 😂😂😂 at c1r1 neuvillette does even more dmg (without vape) than xiangling vape in international team 😂😂😂 which childe will never do it with his little dmg 😂😂😂

    • @alatusedits
      @alatusedits 6 місяців тому +8

      @@thongduonghiengia7168 I said c0 lil bro. C0 childe clears faster than c0 neuvillette period. Show me a c0 neuvillette speedrun then with prototype amber. Childe has with 57 seconds. Even with r1, childe will clear faster

    • @thongduonghiengia7168
      @thongduonghiengia7168 6 місяців тому +1

      @@alatusedits dont worry, i agree that at c0, neuvillette is clunky to use in international team. Cuz when he get interrupted, it feel like hell. So i say c1 neuvillette. And when c1 first then r1, neuvillette can even do more dmg than a full vape xiangling pyro tornado, although he doesnt get much of kazuha buff. It just at c1r1 neuvillette, he is already surpass the international team so there is no point to put him in the international team. It will put shame to the international team 🤣🤣🤣.

  • @lambzz.
    @lambzz. 6 місяців тому +9

    this is very true. It always troubles new player in deciding if they want to pull for their fav characters or someone else's fav character because of how they portray them XD

  • @ryzhik9608
    @ryzhik9608 6 місяців тому +15

    Okay at the start I was like "hold up it's like Flip's shit take on Alhaitham?" and then the beginning killed me LMAO
    Neuvillette, truly the hydro applicator of all time

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +4

      WHAT DID FLIP SAY ABOUT ALHAITHAM

    • @ryzhik9608
      @ryzhik9608 6 місяців тому

      @@butterfer0808 that he is a fraud basically and Nahida is better so no need to pull him. The vid's deleted after we bitched

    • @Lad871
      @Lad871 5 місяців тому

      ​@@butterfer0808Alhaitham is a fraud in his opinion...

    • @stressedhaish69420
      @stressedhaish69420 5 місяців тому +1

      Neuvillette said "It's Oratricing time" and he oratriced his enemies

    • @wilburforce8046
      @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому

      @@butterfer0808said he’s ass

  • @skyhart9926
    @skyhart9926 24 дні тому +1

    4:06 zhongli hold E shield, then jump. that’s actually a brilliant way to not waste seconds with Zhongli. thanks! Great tip!

  • @denzel4341
    @denzel4341 6 місяців тому +5

    Neuvillete is so good because of the ff:
    You can actually move while hydropumping so theres no dps loss when avoiding enemy attacks
    His F2P option can be obtained super early in the game
    His setups are so scuffed and you just need to apply whatever hydro reaction and you’d get his buffs
    He can face tank enemies and just absorb the droplets to always heal up.
    He feels decent to play at mobile.
    You can build his teams and the supports barely need any investments, because theyre just a hydro reaction bot.
    His spin to win mechanic allows people to play him without a grouper
    I’d actually recommend Neuvillete to anyone who wants an amazing DPS, but I would recommend Kazuha much more because he’s a much more splashable support

  • @TheBoss-ih1rf
    @TheBoss-ih1rf 4 місяці тому +3

    This vid is so true after arlechinno with all the neuv glazers getting really mad at TCs

  • @Dubstep_Gun
    @Dubstep_Gun 6 місяців тому +8

    Ok, after massive L on hyperbloom video this one can be accepted as massive W redemption.

  • @alatusedits
    @alatusedits 6 місяців тому +12

    Short answer why: childe clears faster

    • @stell7r_
      @stell7r_ 5 місяців тому +8

      when will genehin players learn that nuke ≠ better

    • @alatusedits
      @alatusedits 5 місяців тому +1

      @@stell7r_ in speedruns, childe clears faster at c0r0

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  5 місяців тому +1

      das crazy bruh

    • @alatusedits
      @alatusedits 5 місяців тому +5

      @@stell7r_ at c0r0, neuvillette is competitive with other top tier carries, not really clearly outshining anyone. And childe international does clear faster at c0r0 in many scenarios. Hu tao clears faster against bosses

    • @jessevirieux5167
      @jessevirieux5167 5 місяців тому +5

      @@stell7r_ childe isnt good bc of his nuke lol he usually doesnt even use melee ult in international

  • @Sarah-iq3sc
    @Sarah-iq3sc 5 місяців тому +3

    I'm a lurker in Genshin Impact Asia group in FB, I've seen lots of glazing over Neuvillette
    "He is the best DPS"
    "If you don't know what team to use, just use Neuvillette, he is his own team"
    "Neu can solo abyss"
    recommending to pull for Neuvillette even when the account only have Noelle as shielder
    what's best to say to all these people man... 🤦‍♀

  • @Glast04
    @Glast04 6 місяців тому +3

    As a C0R0 Neuvillette batchest I was concerned at the start. But your take is super valid, I agree completely.

  • @am5571
    @am5571 6 місяців тому +3

    6:29 to 6:31
    This is the one thing that always grinded my gears whenever I heard the nuev glazing. When Ayato first came out so many people gave him shade for essentially a one button playstyle (he has other flaws but that's not the point), but when Neuvillete has the exact same gameplay with the only difference being he's just better has always rubbed me the wrong way. Like fine if you like Neuv's gameplay then that's fine but to say it's something revolutionary is wrong.
    Edit: Homie saw the Vars video and thought enough was enough.

    • @crimsonECH1DNA
      @crimsonECH1DNA 6 місяців тому +2

      It's the suicide squad joke. "He does exactly what I do!" "Yeah, but better."

    • @Ananta9817
      @Ananta9817 5 місяців тому +1

      Hell no 💀
      Neuvillette gets way more flak for it than Ayato ever did.
      Ayato actually was praised for being easy to use, satisfying and mobile friendly.
      He just gets egged on now cause his excuse of being versatile got taken by someone else who does it better.

  • @Violate..
    @Violate.. 4 місяці тому +3

    Ngl i have a C1 neuv and C6 Yelan and yelan just stomps in single target or AoE once the enemies are close by enough or kazuha can pull them together if not neuvillette stomps in AoE but people who say neuv is better than C6 yelan is talking utter bs, they just talk without even having a C6, but ngl i can see neuvillette C1 being better than of the older characters C6 since a lot of the older characters got a bunch of bad cons like Xiao, hu tao, childe etc

  • @Sahlokniir
    @Sahlokniir 6 місяців тому +4

    yea i agree and as i can allready see the people in the comments are allready proving ur point. yes hes S tier main dps. but people just praise him to the point its not funny anymore. and as soon as you critizise these people its always the "nuh uh hes THE BEST HE CAN SOLO ABYSS" like duh i remember seeing fischl abyss solo runs like since the first abyss lol (dont get me wrong shes also S tier) the praise for him is truly a new level. what i also want to add is that i dont think the true strengh of nuevilette are his c1r1 cababilities but the way that he is very friendly for new players or f2p players. one of his best weapons is a craftable one and his best artefact set is in an incredible resin efficient domain

  • @cheese1008
    @cheese1008 5 місяців тому +4

    I wish I never activated his c1 lobotomized anything left in the kit that could've made me think

  • @PrinceVinc
    @PrinceVinc 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel like Furina C6 does A LOT of the heavy lifting here... at least in quite a few examples.

  • @lil_Perro
    @lil_Perro 6 місяців тому +3

    As a person who has put a stupid ammount of time/money in getting and building most post-2.0 team, yeah most strong dps will get around similar times, unless it's one of those abyss chambers where his aoe hits all separated enemies.
    I'd say my Itto c1 team (w/ Chiori c0, Gorou c6, and Furina c6) deals a bit more dps in situations where the club's aoe can hit multiple enemies, and decently more dps in single target. Both teams deal way less dps than my Alhaitham hyperbloom.
    I still use Neuvillette more than either team bc nothing beats his comfort when grinding domains or dailies. Plus, I enjoy the fact that you can do the funny and build him with 300 cr so he looks extra cool in the chatacter display (i know it's suboptimal).

  • @user-hh7yt3cb5f
    @user-hh7yt3cb5f 6 місяців тому +5

    Based video, it's so cringe to see some people treating neuv like he is way better than all the other characters in every single aspect, like, chill he is just easy to build and easy to play. Childe national still clears faster btw 🤭

    • @Ananta9817
      @Ananta9817 5 місяців тому

      Childe national where he is the support 🙏

    • @user-hh7yt3cb5f
      @user-hh7yt3cb5f 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Ananta9817 you don't know what support means, bennett and kazuha are a support, childe does almost as much dmg as xiangling and he is a ENABLER/DPS... Holy, most knowledgeable neuv glazer

    • @Ananta9817
      @Ananta9817 5 місяців тому

      @@user-hh7yt3cb5f Clueless. 🤭
      I meant the new internat where Neuvillette replaces Bennett, or rather just Neuvillette vape.

    • @user-hh7yt3cb5f
      @user-hh7yt3cb5f 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Ananta9817 oh, your comment was a bit vague. Also wouldn't it be called neuv national? Plus xiangling would be basically unusable, like, even with 300 er she would still struggle to get her burst back

    • @user-hh7yt3cb5f
      @user-hh7yt3cb5f 5 місяців тому +2

      You dont use childe in neuv national, childe is only used in neuv, kazuha, furina/zhongli teams

  • @Ahmed_ElSayed01
    @Ahmed_ElSayed01 6 місяців тому +5

    I was going for kazuha and then dump the rest on Neuvillette but arlchino leaks convinced me man I'm saving the rest for her. Sure I want Neuvillette for his status in the plot with a complementary strong kit. but his gameplay looks like it's going to be boring a week later after having him so I'm not so head over heals for him.
    kazuha in the other hand is a must pull in my case since I have childe built and he would make him a lot more fun to play than he is already + international with sucrose is a little painful to play even tho it's not weak

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 5 місяців тому +2

      When he dropped, he seemed as boring as Ayato to me, but when I tried him, he did feel a bit more fun because he can actually move while attacking + you have to hold left click 3 times instead of once, so I ended up pulling him. But, after a week or so, I was already bored of him and now regret pulling him. I just need more clicks, 3 is not enough 😂

    • @Ahmed_ElSayed01
      @Ahmed_ElSayed01 5 місяців тому +2

      @@doug3454 ya itto and ganyu are the same for me pulled, built and played the then felt disappointment from how boring they are

    • @wilburforce8046
      @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому

      @@Ahmed_ElSayed01well that and they do zero damage.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      Bro, put that Childe to better use by having him boost Neuv’s talent level rather than running an international or something. Most efficient and effective use of Tartaglia nowadays. Hydro Resonance is great toi

    • @Ahmed_ElSayed01
      @Ahmed_ElSayed01 5 місяців тому +2

      @@DripKingAventurine
      Sure, but Childe is fun to play and Kazuha enhances this fun even more. Even tho Neuvi is strong, he's quite boring to play with. And I have already fallen to the meta over fun trap before with Ganyu which I barely play with. So I'd rather pull for fun and decently strong than meta and boring. Neuvi's status in the lore make him valuable too, something like zhongli so I'll give him that

  • @sadgekyat
    @sadgekyat 6 місяців тому +4

    Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷‍♂Extra 36% CR from Marechusse 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙‍♂

  • @nayrim1674
    @nayrim1674 6 місяців тому +8

    Good one i cant stand all the otter glazing anymore

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      I mean, it’s well deserved glazing.
      Nowadays people over glazing Arlecchino just because of looks

    • @Neuvi69daddy
      @Neuvi69daddy 4 місяці тому

      Exactly ​@@DripKingAventurine

    • @seraphim978
      @seraphim978 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DripKingAventurinei literally dont think any glazing is well deserved even for arle. its genuinely just gives these characters mains a horrible image

  • @TheStrongestBaka
    @TheStrongestBaka 6 місяців тому +6

    Can't wait to pull and build Neuvillette just in case the abyss gets hard and then never use him because my current favourite teams can clear already.

  • @iryvi
    @iryvi 6 місяців тому +5

    Great video, i mostly agree with everything you said. However, i think that something that you should've pointed out is how much he loses when he's not paired with furina. Like yeah, every character is better with furina but neuvillette is the extreme case. Most people only remember his performance when he came out with that broken abyss blessing and then came furina so they didnt experience the real no furina performance.

    • @thor9142
      @thor9142 6 місяців тому +3

      Clown Neuviliette solo runs still exists

    • @MrGoodra17
      @MrGoodra17 6 місяців тому

      ​@@thor9142 I'm doing it(without his sig) and I only use Yelan and Furina on the other side and still finish with 20/30 seconds remaining 😂

    • @thelegendarytrickster
      @thelegendarytrickster 6 місяців тому +1

      @@thor9142so do ganyu and furina solo runs lol

    • @adilmuhammeds9588
      @adilmuhammeds9588 6 місяців тому +1

      he doesnt need furina, at c0 it performs similar to his rainbow teams .Like i get it you dont need neuvillette to clear the abyss but he is best onfield dps imo i mean on paper his dmg is very similar to other top onfielders but in pratice its way better to do and easier to play i mean you just left click and move around with massive range and aoe.

    • @iryvi
      @iryvi 6 місяців тому +1

      @@adilmuhammeds9588 Don't get me wrong, I think there is a very good case to be made for him to be the best DPS. My point is that in order to do so, he needs furina more than anybody else. If we didn't have his furina teams we wouldn't be calling him best DPS. The one button gameplay is really fantastic, no question about it.

  • @saahil0855
    @saahil0855 6 місяців тому +13

    My friend had to start a new account because he simped too hard for Yelan. He had a c6r1 Yelan and ended up doing so much dmg that everything ended up dying before he could even complete the whole rotation🤣🤣

    • @yellow8760
      @yellow8760 6 місяців тому +2

      he could've just equipped bad artifacts on her

    • @saahil0855
      @saahil0855 6 місяців тому +3

      @@yellow8760 I told him the same thing to which his answer was that he doesn't feel right giving yelan bad artifacts again a hardcore Yelan simp and tbh c6r1 Yelan is really way too busted she doesn't even need artifacts at that point and she will do more than decent dmg.

  • @sreeragsathyan7349
    @sreeragsathyan7349 6 місяців тому +8

    Actually true. I would say not just neuvellete, but nahida, yelan, furina, kazuha, xingque, xiangling etc are all overrated. The amount of glaze I see for these characters is too much lol. The good advice to all should be get the right teams and builds around the characters you like depending on the characters you have. Because every character in the game has replacements even if its not the best

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean neuvillette has as much dps as the top 5 singe target teams in the game. He has the most aoe in the game. He is arguebly the easiest on field character to play. He is hydro and very flexible. He has range.
      It's like mihoyo took everything that makes a dps good and gave it to neuvillette while also making him the best in some of those aspects.

    • @sreeragsathyan7349
      @sreeragsathyan7349 6 місяців тому +3

      @@putent9623 true, I'm not debating that but it's also true that people overrate him. You can literally be the best character in the game and still be overrated by glazing them way more than required which is the case for neuvellete. Neuvellete is one of my top 5 or 6 favourite characters but I've seen people just tell new players who ask about what the dps do to go for neuvellete not even asking what the new players are actually looking for. Like I've seen so many people not liking his playstyle. So the new players may not like him. But people just shove neuvellete in the throat of everyone like no one will have any problems with him. And that's overrating

    • @wilburforce8046
      @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому

      I mean sure but from a meta standpoint it’s still kinda cope to just avoid every meta support and on feilder because you love that boy Freminent.

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 5 місяців тому

      @@wilburforce8046 yiu again

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 5 місяців тому +3

      @sreeragsathyan7349 fair enough. His playstyle is pretty bland, especially on controller. I would still say he is a good first pick so you don't have to worry about abyss down the line in ur account.
      Like my first dps was ganyu and y'know she was very broken back then. She carried me through abyss, even though diluc was main. And because I pulled ganyu and didn't need any meta characters for a very long time (in particular) I just pulled whatever. Kokomi. Itto, kazuha (he was not good then).
      But I get what you mean, he is probably overrated. Actually he is overrated, people actually think f2p C0 neuv can clear spiral abyss with all stars.

  • @scvreignn
    @scvreignn 6 місяців тому +2

    hello !! diehard neuvi enjoyer here (long ass paragraph beware)
    i find that generally neuvi glazers (those insane "c1r1>c6 yelan" people) that go out of their way to place him so astronomically much higher in their mental rankings than any other dps that the uprising that's resulted on most genshin forums takes away from his merits and results in the "overrated" label :(
    yeah, he's (subjectively!) lovely to play, negates skill issue, "solos" etc but this is SO blown out of proportion and repeated over and over again that most neuvi stans as of late are just perceived as no braincell activation one button coomers that enjoy telling you how great he is at solo clearing the abyss.
    as character merits outside of the meta were mentioned towards the end of the vid, it's also detrimental to those for him because of how defining a factor meta is in the way he's perceived. majority of sane neuvi stans know just how well he's written, how much love went into his design, voice acting and other reasons to like a character which are just entirely overshadowed by "haha ur noobillette main boring gameplay go get hu tao she does more damage" (speaking from personal experience)
    a little bit of my own bias here but, 9 times out of 10 if you're looking for more abyss stars (not considering abyss speedruns because those are attributed to characters like c6 lyney, ganyu, wrio etc) neuvi is going to be the easiest answer but whether he's gonna make your genshin experience more fun is subjective.
    he might be the "best" dps by merits of solo capability, ease of use, team flexibility, vertical investment and damage return for investment but not necessarily always the "strongest".
    might also just be the strongest c6 (subjective) but that's such a small minority of neuvi players that it's not worth going into big rants and comparisons about anyway!
    please don't take unhinged neuvillette supremacists too seriously but he's definitely worth your consideration regardless🫶

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +3

      Neuvillette is great no matter how you look at it. But the extreme glazers are out of control lol

  • @dachchet7385
    @dachchet7385 5 місяців тому +2

    I dna what vid i watch that had me subscribe. But i was about to sub again on this vid. Great vid mane

  • @user-gq4kz5nn6x
    @user-gq4kz5nn6x 2 місяці тому +1

    I was about to write a hate comment and then I heard the second part

  • @John_II
    @John_II 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the distinction: "overrated" does not mean "bad", in fact Neuvillette is a great DPS. But the way people make it sound like you "need" him isn't quite right either. We're spoiled for DPS units and it's rare that Hoyo puts a hard elemental check in the Abyss where you would specifically need Neuvillette as the optimal choice (I think they did that literally once in 4.1).
    Ease of use matters to me and to many. It's why I love Ayato. Sure tapping his skill and then spamming normal attacks is brain dead, but it's also hard to screw up when you're under pressure and swarmed by enemies in the Abyss.

  • @pops1cle187
    @pops1cle187 6 місяців тому +3

    I dont wanna name the people who should watched this video but there is a lot 😭

  • @ferend4038
    @ferend4038 6 місяців тому +8

    Imo all neuvillette overrated perception comes from c1/r1/c1r1 and c1-2 furina showcases. And I can't blame anyone for that, he's fricking crazy with that investment.
    I run his numbers in optimizer and yeah, he's kinda mid at c0 for me considering I already have c1r1 hutao who could even onerotate drake last abyss. But I really have strong urge to at least pull his c1. Anyways I'm broke on primos so even c0 would be lucky lol.
    Btw the most argument stopping me from pulling neuv is that he takes furina and she can be played in so many teams that he looks just like any replaceable dps lol. Anyways I think I'm willing to give him 50/50

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 6 місяців тому +1

      That's crazy since neuvillette literally has the most aoe in the game. Is the best user of furina. In terms of dps, he is arguebly only behind hu tao and lyney and xiao with 100% collisions. This js while he has more aoe and flexibility then any of them.

    • @Ananta9817
      @Ananta9817 6 місяців тому

      Doesn't need her if you get c1. Just replace Bennett with him in internat and use Childe and Xiangling as supports.
      Or just use Zhongli over Childe if you work with c0.

    • @ferend4038
      @ferend4038 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Ananta9817 neuv c1 only increases furina irreplaceability. Swapping furina for childe honestly is below my standards.. for how much unoptimaly I want to play a character lol also it makes his dmg even more on lvl of "any replaceable dps"

    • @Ananta9817
      @Ananta9817 5 місяців тому

      @@ferend4038 If you take too much time to complete a chamber, maybe? Furina does outscale Childe but the gap isn't really noticable when you can just cycle through your setups faster and spend more time on Neuvillette.
      Kazuha is more important for Neuvillette than Furina in this case, since he gives value to both his vape team and hypercarry. Unless you just play him with dentro, but that just adds to his superiority over other dps when you look at his number of team options that are top tier.

  • @sailorenthusiast
    @sailorenthusiast 6 місяців тому +1

    It feels like Neuvillette is basically the modern day Hu Tao. People speak so highly of him, even in regards that aren’t necessarily true. I remember getting frustrated as all heck by people calling Hu Tao a “big dumb damage” hypercarry. Because, while I acknowledge that she has very impressive damage, it is misleading to make it seem like she’s this easy plug and play unit. Hu Tao is more like a high maintenance, high reward type unit. Neuvillette by contrast is definitely not the most OP unit out there, but he is absolutely the most easy to use. I’d argue he’s much more deserving of the title of “big dumb damage” because you don’t have to worry too much about investment. It’s likely that it’s that same ease of use that has resulted in people having an inflated opinion of him.

  • @apiratcc
    @apiratcc 6 місяців тому +3

    1 min into this and I already subscribe!

  • @deltaspecies1697
    @deltaspecies1697 6 місяців тому +7

    Overall, imo he is the general best dps but depending on the situation that can change very easily in favor of other top tier dps like haitham, xiao,lyney and tao.

  • @Numbfall_Random
    @Numbfall_Random 5 місяців тому +2

    I had to argue with people that yelan and xingqiu(C6) are both better than him. The neuvillette glazing gets annoying when every dps who does similar or more dps than him is completely thrown out in favor of his c1 r1 performance which then you would have to fairly compare it to things like c1 r1 Hu Tao, Alhaitham r1 with a C2 Nahida, and so on. He’s placed on such a high pedestal when almost any of the top dps chatacter are as good as him, just require a little more effort. Neuvillette glazing is cringe.

  • @iceeeee
    @iceeeee 6 місяців тому +11

    I'd recommend Xinyan instead.

  • @stazop
    @stazop 6 місяців тому +3

    after playing him from his release i really would say you will get bored of it eventually, it doesn't mean he's weak or anything its just what am I doing even holding the button and enemies went poof🤦🤷 he's good but you will get bored of it.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      I’ve been using him for half a year and I still find it a joy to play with him. Just slap him on to a bunch of different team variants, him being Hydro makes him so versatile.
      Also fun fully clearing the abyss with him as a solo, that actually takes some skill if yours is C0 or C1

  • @blast8785
    @blast8785 5 місяців тому +3

    I give this video 5/10 dragons try glazing neuvillette then maybe you'll get more dragons (this is a joke)

  • @nexuhs.
    @nexuhs. 6 місяців тому +5

    Neuvillette stans clicking dislike when you said Hutao and Heitham are better dealing with bosses 💀

  • @e100pavel
    @e100pavel 6 місяців тому +2

    I kinda feel like, while this video seems to target people who overhype Neuvilette, it is too aggressive in its points and as such will only lead to person's butthurt instead of any enlightenment they'd get from these points in isolation. Still, will try sending this to that one friend who has overload of hydro characters and still wants to pull him despite needing other elements much more to round out his account :D

  • @zero555
    @zero555 6 місяців тому +1

    the only "broken" aspect of this character is his healing lol, they didn't do the math right and left him with too much healing, the intended team for him was with Furina so it would make sense to have some healing, his damage is about the same as the others dps or even ayato or childe in their respective teams.. people love to take some c0 neuv with great artifacts and say "see? f2p friendly and very strong" except if you get hit you just did zero damage, well there is an easy fix for that as usual.. "just pull for zhongli" ah yes, the old "just get another 5 star", not to mention that Furina another 5 star is the best character to bring with him
    .
    tldr: he heals too much, thats more important for the players with zero hand dexterity than the damage, even if he did half the damage they would call him the dragon god saiyan 4

  • @AlphaAbyss_
    @AlphaAbyss_ 6 місяців тому +3

    im going for neuvillette not because i think he is a around better option than kazuha because he probably isnt but i personally enjoy on field main dps characters over supports like cyno is my most invested in character i got him c2 r1 all f2p because i think that playsyle is fun but i would never pretend that he is better than c6 yelan that's just ludicrous to say

  • @juanlife6255
    @juanlife6255 6 місяців тому +14

    he is not overrated, stop yapping non sense, there is c0 neuvi runs on abyss as one man army.

    • @deltaspecies1697
      @deltaspecies1697 6 місяців тому +25

      U do realize there are freking ningguang solo clears as well right ? Or are u just blind to the facts ?

    • @kavayo404
      @kavayo404 6 місяців тому +23

      Soloing abyss was never special, neuv just opened it to skill issued players

    • @GxGNoir
      @GxGNoir 6 місяців тому +18

      bro played right into what was said in the video about people always defaulting to solo Neuv arguments

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +2

      🙃

    • @ajbrawlstars8844
      @ajbrawlstars8844 6 місяців тому +8

      I hv seen tighnari fishcl duo too (f2p weapons)in abyss that doesn't mean they r broken

  • @eliaskallman2946
    @eliaskallman2946 6 місяців тому +1

    I like him cause his base damage is so high so you can destroy everything in the over-world without the need of his burst or team.(not meaning he is the only one capable of that)

  • @mrmiguel_00
    @mrmiguel_00 6 місяців тому +1

    What I love about Neuvillette is he is a dps woth not a lot of weaknesses, however I think the term Jack of all trades but a master of none definitely applies to him, except he's almost a master in all of them
    I would definitely consider Hu Tao to probably be the best single target dps with similar levels of investments

    • @adilmuhammeds9588
      @adilmuhammeds9588 6 місяців тому

      she is harder to play and without her c1 its not that fun with all the jump cancels i mean if you dont cancel you lose a lot of dps.

  • @SomeoneSayOri
    @SomeoneSayOri 6 місяців тому +3

    nah neuvillette hyperbloom solos 🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @johns783
    @johns783 6 місяців тому +2

    his easiness of use is my biggest issue with him kit. he's the equivalent of a noob tube. he's great at what he does, sure, just not my cup of tea.

  • @princessochka3690
    @princessochka3690 6 місяців тому +5

    Neuvi is indeed overrated, because people tend to forget mentioning that to get "high damage" he is known for - he needs R1C1 with expensive full 5 star teams.
    C0 Neuvi with prototype amber and 4 star team is nothing exceptional. It is also important to note, that 4.X abyss is favorable for Neuvi, but in 5.X Mihoyo might use hydro enemies to nerf hydro-oriented meta aka promote new Nathlan characters.

  • @nag.i
    @nag.i 6 місяців тому +2

    Real man pulls itto and runs that one mono geo comp where yun jin and albedo are only there bc you need 4ppl in a team and only gorou is useful and can actually buff your 6k atk 5k def 87% crit rate 345% crit damage itto that automatically becomes useless against enemies with an elemental shield that's not cryo or geo

    • @Ksjplays
      @Ksjplays 6 місяців тому +1

      You just describing your own team.

    • @nag.i
      @nag.i 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Ksjplays yes i am

  • @UG_RIGRUM
    @UG_RIGRUM 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm not a neuv fanboy, dont even like him. but why is "neuv can solo abyss" a bad/wrong argument?

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  5 місяців тому +9

      1. He can’t. Not at C0R0 by an average player against difficult chambers.
      2. It’s a game with teams of 4. It doesn’t really matter what a character can do solo if it’s not better than a full team.

  • @GxGNoir
    @GxGNoir 6 місяців тому +6

    He said it not me

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +1

      🤫

    • @nehethemonke8420
      @nehethemonke8420 6 місяців тому +1

      ain’t you delete your xiao vs wanderer video cause you can’t handle criticism oh where yo server go to? finally realize you ain’t t made to be a content creator?

    • @ajbrawlstars8844
      @ajbrawlstars8844 6 місяців тому +5

      Now i get it why u delete ur xiao vs wanderer video man they r aggressive

    • @seraphim978
      @seraphim978 4 місяці тому

      @@nehethemonke8420finally realized genshin fans are toxic dipshits

  • @lemonrose1254
    @lemonrose1254 6 місяців тому +1

    I do have to say though, he is really consistent and easy, and that quality is very important for mobile players like me. Mind you I play hu tao, gaming, tighnari, nahida, etc. Neuvillete is so easy and consistent that I find myself gravitating towards him for at least one side of the abyss. Just an overall high performer who is also very accessible in terms of team options and weapon options.
    I do think people over rate him in terms of his solo damage, but his teams are always high performing and more importantly consistent.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому +1

      I don’t think he’s overrated. He’s proven that he’s great at C0 time and time again. I think other people are just getting annoyed at the Neuv glazing overshadowing the other characters which is understandable

  • @nottyseel949
    @nottyseel949 6 місяців тому +2

    Dragon is bad. Makes short game shorter and has no effect on dialogue/exploring so ruins game experience entirely. Better off pulling character that can deal with all Genshin's combat shenanigans w/o cutting your game time to zero.

  • @Camelia437
    @Camelia437 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly I can't stand this character anymore. I think he should be removed because he has made the community incredibly toxic.
    This simps are completly crazy, like yeah at C0 he is supposed to be stronger than Yelan C6R1 of course guys. 😂

  • @XLinkiboy
    @XLinkiboy 6 місяців тому +3

    Your first "overrated" video i agree with lel

  • @neoinfinity5204
    @neoinfinity5204 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video I’m skipping these four banners cause current is bad and next one is overrated characters I don’t need especially kazowa who’s story boring and I already got many Anemo options.

  • @KinkleGenshin
    @KinkleGenshin 6 місяців тому +8

    1:31-1:55 perfectly exemplifies why raiden is overrated lmao

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +2

      C2 Raiden = C6 5-star 💀

    • @MattRick128
      @MattRick128 6 місяців тому +1

      Damn Kinkle, ya had to go there lol

  • @dazaiosamu7184
    @dazaiosamu7184 6 місяців тому +8

    W video, legend is back.

  • @kazuhah1743
    @kazuhah1743 5 місяців тому +3

    I don't care how strong he is or isn't. I will not play a character with such a ghetto-looking animation, and ghetto attack movement, that lets him float on a 2D plane without physical interaction to the 3D world

  • @MrGoodra17
    @MrGoodra17 6 місяців тому +3

    As long as I can solo clear 1 side of abyss with him at c0 and without his sig, he'll be the strongest character in the game imo.
    Maybe not the faster in every scenario, but the best overall.

  • @nikumilotic1333
    @nikumilotic1333 6 місяців тому +5

    Im ready to take all the glazing and backshots to protect and batchest nevuwet

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator 6 місяців тому +1

    Wana hear this: Hydro/Cyro slimes vs Neuvillette.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      Wanna hear this: Eye of Perception and Ocean Hued Clam

  • @ajbrawlstars8844
    @ajbrawlstars8844 6 місяців тому +7

    Neuvillette probably has almost 0 flaws as a main dps (except off field and interruption). Also if u think he is overrated just becuz he isn't top 1 in st that doesn't make sense also alhaithm not better than him in st nor hutao except lyney xiao.

    • @ajbrawlstars8844
      @ajbrawlstars8844 6 місяців тому +8

      Well forget it,i got baited😂

    • @Array_EB
      @Array_EB 6 місяців тому +3

      Kinda weird to say he has 0 flaws and then list 2 flaws but yah you got baited lmao

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Array_EBmore like 1 since no good dps actually depends on their off field application thag much.

  • @oyfum2638
    @oyfum2638 6 місяців тому +1

    Can’t keep defending bro like this 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jamahldavis5078
    @jamahldavis5078 6 місяців тому +1

    I may or may not have already recommended a at 45 player to pull for neuvi kazuha and arlecchino not matter what🌚

  • @imamonster09
    @imamonster09 6 місяців тому +4

    hello mr. butterfer, do you still play hu tao vv vape after furina? and have u considered making a guide/video on the team? great vid btw!

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +1

      I’ll get around to it eventually

    • @imamonster09
      @imamonster09 6 місяців тому

      @@butterfer0808 i'll be waiting for it, cheers bro!

  • @Daivd1111
    @Daivd1111 6 місяців тому +6

    Lore wise or combat wise he is the strongest bar none, and that's not even close bro. You can hate his playstyle but the numbers don't lie. You pull him and enter simple mode

    • @thelegendarytrickster
      @thelegendarytrickster 6 місяців тому +2

      He literally explained this isn’t the case in the video. Neuv is great but he’s not the strongest bar none lmao. At best, he’s slightly better than other options in aoe.

    • @Daivd1111
      @Daivd1111 6 місяців тому +4

      @@thelegendarytrickster No he didn't, he said there are better *single target* teams that have higher ceiling than Nuevilette's team, AOE he is king.

    • @thelegendarytrickster
      @thelegendarytrickster 6 місяців тому +7

      Did we watch the same video lol? He said that neuv is probably best in aoe, but he doesn’t gap the competition. He’s not that much better than the competition in aoe. He may save you a few seconds in most scenarios. There will be times where other teams
      are quicker. Xiao, Nilou, and childe can situationally clear just as fast if not faster.
      He’s not this overpowered aoe option that has no competition like people think is what he’s saying. He can still be the best but be overrated is the point of the vid.

    • @Daivd1111
      @Daivd1111 6 місяців тому

      @@thelegendarytrickster NO he is rated

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому

      🤫

  • @PulseDemon.
    @PulseDemon. 6 місяців тому +7

    neuv when he is asked to deal damage in single target (he is MID)

  • @hogma7989
    @hogma7989 6 місяців тому +7

    As much as I found your hyperbloom video insufferable (EM mainstat point was just statistically wrong), your other videos are actually very nuanced and provide great takes for growing your account. Especially with building a team around the 5 stars you like.
    This one and the "just build national" video are great. Keep cooking.

  • @Namesovernumbers
    @Namesovernumbers 5 місяців тому +3

    I play physical nuevillette and and dps kazuha

  • @HMul11
    @HMul11 6 місяців тому +1

    I agree using him to measure the value of other characters isn’t good

  • @la_dose5206
    @la_dose5206 6 місяців тому

    His early gains per pity you spend on his team are unmatched.

  • @Saptarshi_impact
    @Saptarshi_impact 5 місяців тому +1

    U forgot c1 rizzly in boss

  • @DiamondCityLights
    @DiamondCityLights 6 місяців тому +8

    Absolutely. People saw the fact that he was able to solo abyss on release and now that’s the only argument they have in every dps related comment section, when almost every other character is able to do so.

    • @mptyalln
      @mptyalln 6 місяців тому +1

      do they have self heals and aoe?

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      I mean he’s been soloing the last four Abyss runs at C0 without much trouble due to him having enough power without reactions unlike the other characters as well has instant healing

    • @DiamondCityLights
      @DiamondCityLights 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DripKingAventurine every dps 5 star character easily solos abyss if used correctly, neuvillette only made it possible for players with skill issue to also solo abyss.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      @@DiamondCityLights If he can make players with less experience solo the abyss then that just proves he’s cracked even more
      And of course any character can pretty much do it, but Neuvillette’s awesome because he hits like a truck yet can sustain himself like some of the best healers in the game.
      And the runs I’ve seen of a Neuvillette at C0 the player still needs a good amount of skill to dodge and time attacks properly

  • @rottuce5735
    @rottuce5735 6 місяців тому +1

    i agree with all your point except, you have to spend money to get c1, nah just save and be smart about your primogems, im f2p and still can get him c1 because win the 50/50 tho, but if you not win the 50/50 just wait for his rerun and get his c1

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому

      It was a joke lol

    • @rottuce5735
      @rottuce5735 6 місяців тому

      now im confuse, should i get c1 r1 wrio for solo showcase or just make my neuv stronger with getting his signature, or just wait for natlan possibly capitano, ive been saving since 4.3 and wont use my primo until idk when. alhaitham neuvillette just make the abyss looks like a park

  • @daboomboom7051
    @daboomboom7051 6 місяців тому +1

    make another hot take about albedo "getting powercrept" by chiori

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +4

      You mean chiori getting powercrept by Albedo?

    • @daboomboom7051
      @daboomboom7051 6 місяців тому +2

      @@butterfer0808 🤣🤣

  • @lupi3606
    @lupi3606 5 місяців тому +1

    I think this video is actually good and i agree that people should first think about their preferences and not just meta
    But what i don't agree with is your take on his playstyle. It is really simple and i can see how it can feel boring. But i'm so tired of people saying that Neuvillette is the only one like that. Xiao is literally q+plunge, Lyney charged, Hu Tao e+charged and so on. The only one in my opinion who is somewhat unique is Alhaitham, but even his gameplay is not as complex as some people say

  • @exteriormv_9184
    @exteriormv_9184 4 місяці тому

    my hutoa does like 70k while being in full life-support amount of health 🤣 and i die a lot of time using huato is floor 12 where I can use neuv to wipe a chamber of 12 ,Alone
    Hutoa Does a lot more burst damage than Neuv But neuv is way way more convinent He Heals and He deals he has a lot of hp .
    And yea i Completely agree with your opinion .Because Nev is way more easy and convinient to use that hutao and other characters, The skills of the players are actaully diminished and very less effort is required to play him .

  • @wilburforce8046
    @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому +1

    I see what you did here Zajef…

  • @xdnum669
    @xdnum669 5 місяців тому +1

    flying

  • @Dave-mm5ge
    @Dave-mm5ge 5 місяців тому +1

    this video is chaos. i can't trust it and don't like it. he's overrated and weak but powerful and broken? huh?

  • @Simca0503
    @Simca0503 6 місяців тому +1

    Who are the top 5 onfield chars for ST and AoE in terms of dps?

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +3

      That's for you to decide. A lot of the better DPS characters sheet pretty similarly and each offer different upsides. I personally like Alhaitham the most :)

    • @Simca0503
      @Simca0503 6 місяців тому +1

      @@butterfer0808 I see. Alhaitham does seem really strong to me as well, but a bit worried my single brain cell won't be able to run him properly so sadly have not pulled for him yet. I love Ganyu though and have been trying burnmelt with Nahida, Kazu and Benny. Is this team anywhere near the top?

  • @RieMUisthegoaT
    @RieMUisthegoaT 6 місяців тому +2

    Do you think the abyss blessing and the abyss itself of 4.1-4.2 inflated the rating of Neuvillette? Because I personally think it did.

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  6 місяців тому +4

      Probably. People never got a proper taste of how much worse Furinaless teams are because of it.

  • @Dinoking-tatsumaki_simp
    @Dinoking-tatsumaki_simp 6 місяців тому +3

    hutao supremacy lol

  • @wilburforce8046
    @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому

    I think the issue with other comps that can keep up with Neuv is that no matter how much you beat around the bush, he IS a lot easier lol.
    Tao for example does have real combos and lyney can get staggered.

    • @butterfer0808
      @butterfer0808  5 місяців тому

      Ye

    • @wilburforce8046
      @wilburforce8046 5 місяців тому

      @@butterfer0808I think Neuv is still the “best carry” even if not by much since at the end of the day, without reset impact, he will just give most players faster clears.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому

      ⁠@@wilburforce8046What I like about Neuvillette is that he gives you the option to use him as a solid solo carry in a game where pretty most of the characters have to depend on rotation and reactions.
      Neuvillette can be played with or without and it’s awesome how without can still be a viable option in harder content

  • @abdelrahmantarek7929
    @abdelrahmantarek7929 6 місяців тому +4

    victim of ayato

  • @hariniie
    @hariniie 5 місяців тому +1

    neuvi video🙅‍♀
    alhaitham showcase

  • @ookamishin402
    @ookamishin402 6 місяців тому +2

    Maaan this is such good video, it pains me that you blow it some times by having bias takes about stuff, like in the hyperbloom and national videos, or indirectly mocking or exaggerating other people's takes, some times out of context, it just looks like public shaming and it feels bad bro. The first thing a person should have it's a little empathy and the second it's to be respectful. Stop doing it and you'll probably see an exponential growth in the channel.

  • @vladdyru
    @vladdyru 5 місяців тому +3

    Neuvillette fans are the primary reason I'm never going for him. There's hardly any community with such glazing, toxicity towards others and outright delusion, except for the Nahida stans, for obvious reasons.

    • @DripKingAventurine
      @DripKingAventurine 5 місяців тому +2

      You haven’t seen the Childe fans. Some of the most toxic/weird idiots in the community. I’m actually grateful that this character was introduced, they have been more quiet ever since

  • @mrReedemer
    @mrReedemer 6 місяців тому +2

    Neuv is the best at any multiwave/aoe abyss in general, single target he loses to many other carrys. however the multiwave prowess of neuv and his ability to keep up with the best in ST makes him so good. cant speak for f2p but if you compare all c6r5 dps he is probably the best pick if you were just to have one objectively speaking.

  • @wingtyger6096
    @wingtyger6096 5 місяців тому +2

    i wouldnt consider a character that can solo abyss mid

  • @thatonerandom8767
    @thatonerandom8767 6 місяців тому +1

    Do a shit take about XL OPPA AGANE, pls 😂. Loved your shit take.

  • @hassanihsan6863
    @hassanihsan6863 6 місяців тому

    Aside from ease of use I think the lack of need for investment also plays a role. He ascends with crit damage and has a signature artifact set that gives him 36% crit rate essentially for free. Speaking from personal experience, I don't have Neuvilette but I do have Furina and since I farmed Golden Troupe for her I already have a bunch of great Hunter pieces for Neuvilette when I hopefully get him this patch.
    He can solo the game but his synergy with other teammates just requires them to do any reaction to give his charged attack a dmg bonus even if you don't have them built well enough to support him. The examples you have in this video like Childe, Alhaitham, and Xiao do require some teammates to be invested in and the carries themselves need a lot of good artifacts and weapons to perform well. Basically he's just one of the most convenient characters to both build and play, and even if he was on the same level or slightly better than the competition that fact alone makes him likely the best DPS in the game.

    • @yahheh5498
      @yahheh5498 6 місяців тому

      This. I think theres a difference between exaggeration and overrated both can be the same but it can be different. This youtuber claims that yes hu tao can excel in single target bosses better than neuvillette but ignores how high investment she needs to be do get to this point. Neuvillette is so easy to build from his best f2p weapon being craftable to his BIS artifact set in every situation being a set that gives 36 free crit rate and then neuvillettes free crit damage ascension. Meanwhile like this person acknowledged the ease of use and its not just "being lazy to put brainpower" but artifact luck which is the worst thing about genshin and hu taos annoying jump mechanic which contrary to popular belief with these people who have the ease of access to play genshin on pc mobile players doing jump cancel hu tao is just not worth it for most people unless you love hu tao. I watched the whole video and i stand by that people can exaggerate but overall he is appropriately rated not overrated. Because the things that people say about neuvillette that arent outright misinformed lies are all true. Misinformed pekple saying he out dps' a literal c6 yelan does not make him overrated it just means people are running their mouths on things that arent true. The true thing people say about neuvillette makes him not overrated but appropriately rated. The tiny minority of try hard genshin players who value difficult stimulating gameplay in a vast ocean of casual fans wont change that
      I went on a tangment but i agree with how hes also just the easiest convenient to build dps too even if his ceiling is lower than maximum hyper invested hu tao xiao etc. Him having a slightly lower ceiling in exchange for literally every other positive he provides is a nitpick not a drawback.