COVID Long Haulers - Discussion With Dr. Bruce Patterson
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. COVID Long Haulers - Discussion With Dr. Bruce Patterson
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Today we will discuss COVID-19 long-haul patients. We will discuss the following topics:
1. Diagnosis
2. Monitoring
3. Treatment
4. Possible Causes
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Please consult with a physician or healthcare professional regarding any medical or mental health related diagnosis or treatment. No information in this video should ever be considered as a substitute for advice from a healthcare professional.
Thank you for believing us! And for trying to figure out what to do for the long haulers! I appreciate you!
9 months ago I got Covid. I knew by May when I still had so many symptoms that I was dealing with Covid in an unusual way. Why wasn't I getting better? I found the Covid Long Haul group later May. All these months later, I still have symptoms that come and go.
I'm so thankful for Drs who are trying their best to help us. We need and deserve help and answers, it's really been hell.
Ivermectin has reports of improving "long haulers" very well.
flccc.net/
www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf
Pages 3, 5,6,7.
Take care, I hope you get through this and get back to good health
I got it in march and still having headaches , fever , chills . the lungs have been a problem 24-7 feels like breathing through a wet rag every breath. really bizarre illness ! I hope you fully recover. God Bless
@@scottanderson3406 Sounds awful. I used to get furious at talk radio insisting it will just wash away for 99% of people. Even people that seem to be clear of it may have a flare up or re-infection.
I can't get out of bed sometimes.My legs hurt so much and I have Covid Long haulers syndrome.Any suggestions to get back to work?
Competent people that care a lot... much needed characteristics.
Get enough rest Bruce Patterson. The world needs your best. It is ok to get paid too, especially when you are one of the few in this pandemic that is worth it.
Dr. Bruce Patterson🙏🙏🏆🏆🏆
The workers deserve their wages
Thank-you, Dr Patterson, Dr Yo, Chris M., and the entire team for all your work. Dr Patterson said you had been working on the long hauler puzzle for four years. I know it must feel like years, but it has been four months -working non-stop. You are all heroes.
Dr.Bruce Patterson is most certainly a Rockstar! Thank you so much Dr. Patterson for your work on L.H. and your discussion today. Thank you to your entire team of doctors and staff.
I am a long hauler and its hard to explain to others.. grateful for this..
Thanks, docs! Let's hope these long haulers will soon have an effective treatment available.
I rewatch these interviews.. as a lay person with zero medical background, i learn a lot, and its uplifting to be listening to all these amazingly talented and dedicated doctors and researchers and getting an insight into their world of treatment and research, which we are all dependent on but are getting no information about their work and discoveries from our health authorities or mainstream radio and tv or print medias. These doctors and all the networking being done both between each other and them and the public gives us great hope for knowing the best way through covid-19.
As science progresses God reveals more. You are here for such a time as this. Praise God's wisdom!!
Amen.
CFS 38 years. I know how it feels to be beyond tired and not be able to sleep. Never found any drug to ease fibromyalgia. Long haulers life has now changed.
Open Medicine Organisation doing great work in CFS and now Covid
Have you every tried Airnergy machine from Germany ? Have you tried NADH? Have you tried Hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy? I recommend you research some of that and try some . Much love ✌️❤️
Investigate “CIRS” - Dr shoemaker and Dr Heymann and see if this might makes sense re: your CFS. Recent article about a Dr with CFS treated for CIRS and recovering at phoenix rising. Best wishes to you it ain’t an illness for the faint of heart.
Dr Patterson nailed it in coffin @47.50 min "strategies that reduce the viral reservoirs' early are gonna be ones that will ultimately prevent long haulers." This is where the treatment must start with "severe home remedies" that is not in medical protocol. He is correct we are creating long haulers.
Please explain in lay man terms.
@@Rachidasister when you get signs and symptom, you get Covid nasal test done. Get back home and assume you have Covid +ve. Start treatment like a severe flu. This is to get a pot of boiling water. Add crushed peels of 1 lemon and boil 5minutes with lid closed. Add 4 tablespoon of salt, 1 lemon juice and with lid closed to build full of steam. Put this in front of you on table. Cover your head with large towel.
Then add 1/2 teaspoon of eucalyptus oil. Now open lid at one corner, breath steam. close lid. Keep repeating full breathing to reach lungs after your nose adjusts to strong smell and steam is finished.
Re-boil same water 2h apart. add half to 1teaspoon eucalyptus oil each time. You will eventually have melted phlegm or puss from lungs pouring out of nose. Fever will come down with each repeat. Breathing will improve. Both viral and cykotine storm (puss) are melted and removed. 100% cured.
Make a pot of hot drinks soup with lots of ginger, garlic, 1 large onion juice, chilli, and lemon juice and anything else. Drink a cup hot every hour. Take 1000mg Vitamin C every 1 to 2 hr or 3grams 3 times day. Take panadol after soup and sleep and sweat it out or break your fever eventually.
CURED of COVID within 24hrs.
Can relate to so much what you’re saying? Hope you’ll talk about use of Ivermectin. Is Hydroxychlorqine still a hopeful remedy?
So very interested in this site you speak of. Where can I find it? Long hauler here, I believe.
....mainstream Medicine knew this. And I, a nurse and 7 time ER patient due to feeling like I was dying, but was made to go to the ER only to hear .."we don't know, it's knee. ' Not acceptable.
Thank you for this interview & the work that you both are doing for us! 🙌💗
Thanks Be for these hardworking men working to help people in need...Bless!
Another wonderful interview. Learned a lot of new interesting stuff.
Amazing. Thank you both for your time and dedication.
My 19 year old granddaughter had Covid and ended up having loss of smell, however, she had a blood clot in her left lung 10 months later and she was given birth control and extra estrogen and within a few weeks she got the clots in both left and right lungs and her heart rate was up and non sleep and fatigue among many other problems!! She’s not a smoker and doesn’t have a clotting disorder even though birth control can cause blood clots but I find it rather strange that she keeps saying that she’s going to die and they put her on a strong blood thinner even though it seems that the clots are gone! Why can’t she take aspirin? She has a lot of the symptoms as these people have and the doctors don’t believe her even though I’ve mentioned it to them, they aren’t knowledgeable about this long hauler and exactly the same symptoms
How's she now ?
I have long covid symptoms too pain in the chest and the arm only on left side. I have been made electrocardiogram, rx,and blood test to the er i twice.
Im 5 weeks with this and seems like is not goig away.
As a long Covid survivor from the first wave of Covid in NYC, this gives me such hope and gratitude to Dr Patterson. For 9 months I have lived with the most debilitating symptoms and not one Dr could reassure me that when I may recover. The only “treatment” was big Pharma.
Have you every tried Airnergy machine from Germany ?Have you tried Hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy? I recommend you research some of that and try some . Some benefit from low histamine diet and EMIQ Quercetin, NAC, Longvida Tumeric, Niacin. ( be cautious of flush effect )
Run DMC is a good long covid UA-cam channel. Much love ✌️❤️
@@theancientsancients1769 Yes I have seen his videos and have been doing low histamine and anti histamines, NAC and Tumeric. In the end the grace of God and time is what is healing me as well as dropping all stress as much as possible :)
@@jodybritt1166 what did you do to get better i am suffering with breathing problem over three months after Covid don’t know what to do all my test are clear but still suffering any advice
We can connect on Instagram you can PM me there. Jodybritt
@kaitmiller
Thank you, I'm very grateful for your work.
The typical narrative of an ME/CFS sufferer, which also seems familiar for long-haulers, is a successful, ambitious, hard-working person, often with a professional or personal high-exertion life style and a commitment to exercise, who also try to fight illness by pushing through, getting back to exercise. The IOM decided that ME/CFS was defined by the fact that ‘exertion of any type’ may ‘adversely affect many organ systems’. I suspect that a similar correspondence may apply. All of the complex processes described, immune responses, must require energy for the body to overcome...it continues to seem wise to prescribe conserving energy for the use of the immune system, on a long-term basis. The occasional patient whose doctor has prescribed six months of rest for ME/CFS (both wise and very brave!) reports full recovery.
Can you provide the source that you received this information from please?
@nancyblake1679 did you recover with rest? And what’s the link to that
Dr. Patterson, I'm surprised to not once hear mention of ME/CFS when many of us have been diagnosed with that as well. It's tremendously scary as many people have ME/CFS the rest of their lives...their bodies never "neutralized" the havoc. This is terrifying.
Thank you for all humanity and worker hard to find damages people have from covid and the care you all do.
I wish I could ask Dr. Patterson if these results will illuminate other conditions besides covid and long haulers. My sister has been ill to varying degree for 15 years with many of the symptoms mentioned... no diagnosis and no never had covid. We have no hope short of a miracle. She's been hospitalized three times this month... first time that the hospital staff actually confirmed in real time with her psychologist that she's not crazy... in 15 years! She developed that long term relationship to combat the moment they turn to the psychsomatic explanation for why she almost just died in front of them for reasons they can't explain. They usually tell her they call and she finds out later they lied. She's been so abused by the medical profession is unconscionable. We've often joked that she would have to actually die to get them to believe her and yet even then they would blame her... dark humor for dark times. Thank you for your compassionate teaching, caring for others so well... both of you.
Look into MCAS, ( Mast Cell Activation Syndrome). Dr. Tina Peers is treating with Antihistamines.
Check out Dr. Beens show with her in Mid June. Very interesting theories on many chronic ailments.
has she been tested for lyme disease
Thank you Gentlemen so very much. Ty for letting me follow both of you. No you dont get a choice. lol. (am anesthesiologist but degree'd in microbio. Your incredible efforts, and especially your ability to look through the fog, has NOT been missed. God bless both of you.
Many doctors, unfortunately, try harder to bring the patients symptoms to their knowledge and not bring their knowledge to the patients symptoms.
Unfortunately this information is an education. My father’s specialist printed something off the internet for him to read. This was a reference for him as he then new it was a reliable source of information-you can always return and ask the questions as long as the medic has time. These videos are so addictive and stimulating. I have really enjoyed the discussion very much.
To robinhood46: well put
Love this statement - so true!
Mmmmmmn...
Thank you for your hard work. I am a long hauler, 9 months. We need treatment asap 🙏🏻😷
Same here. First got sick at the end of April and still have symptoms. Some days worse then others.
Jessica Martinez what is your Vit D level? You need ivermectin. Search Icon Study. And Dr Kory. Dr Chris martensin of PeakProsperity. Dr John Campbell has some good info
@@mrs.c5471
*Correct*
I am long-hauler essentially free of symptoms or they are low-grade; Who is Dr Kory & add straights like Berg or Hansen to your list >> La vitamina de la señora Martínez casi puede eliminar los síntomas
Eat lemon juice with little sea salt drinking alot water early morning in empty stomach while exercising should
Help fight against inflammation cause by covid19 it eat alot of potatoes soup and vegetable. If you can get vitamin c shot it wil be l miracle cure.
Shot
Me too since February ! :( bed ridden
God bless I pray I make it until there's an answer.... I'm so so sick, crushing fatigue, short of breath and extreme tachycardia... This is scary and ppl just think your nuts because labs show nothing
Prayers for your full recovery Shannon. I am in the same situation minus the fatigue
@@Ashley-td7tt thank you so much.. I'll be praying for you too.. Good t bless and Merry Christmas...
@@shannonspiders a very merry Christmas 🎄
I am so sorry! Hopefully they will either find a remedy or cure...or the symptoms may eventually dissipate. Hang in there! 🤗
@@gratefulgammy6909
Thank you so much... I'm tryin everything... Prayer works best I think tho
Dr. Patterson ...thanks man...just. ...thanks
Same thing happening with CFS, Fibromyalgia. NO ANSWERS. Destroyed Lives. If there is any relationship please identify so those continuing to deal with these symptoms can obtain help and treatments.
>> Intermittent Fasting. Low-carb or ketogenic diet
Have you every tried Airnergy machine from Germany ? Have you tried NADH? Have you tried Hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy? I recommend you research some of that and try some . Much love ✌️❤️
I hope this research helps the really long haulers with Lyme and Epstein Barr who have lived with it for years or decades.
Agree completely. Those still living are courageous and persistent because it is so difficult, no validation, no interest, minimize symptoms, ignored, not believed.
Yes we’ve been ignored for decades. It’s appalling. Only now are doctors thinking something real is happening.
Absolutely! As well as the Graves disease and Hashimotos disease patients. But sadly these patients aren't being taken seriously as they have said that these patients have psychological issues along with these diseases, and that it's do to their anxiety etc., and that is what triggered their Graves. Nevermind the fact that some of the Graves patients got it through genetics. From the comments I hear in the support group I belong to, it seems like these "younger" Endos don't have the same "education" compared to my old Endo. He had already 40 years of experience back when I saw him in the early 90's. At least he was able to figure out mine was genetic, and forewarned me of all the issues that would come along for the rest of my life....these other folks are getting "jack" from their Doctors. So the long haulers should expect to wait...the rest of us Auto-immune disease patients have been literally dealing with this for years.
The newest and most effective "Long COVID" therapy from Germany: vital-air-therapy.com
I started taking ivermectin after learning about its use in long haulers. I’m praying it helps me.
Top two Rock Stars on the video, Great to have them educate us.👍
I can't wrap my head around this brilliant physician still advocating covid vaccines!
Great discussion and coordinating collaboration. Thank you doctors.
Riveting discussion from start to finish! Thank you to the whole team for your dedication and hard work, as well as for disseminating this groundbreaking information regarding the COVID long haulers. Best of luck as your research continues, looking forward to seeing the effects your publication has on future patient care and treatment!
This is fantastic! - Keep working on it Dr. Patterson - Seems like you've got this!
I am a long-hauler after being on a ventilator for 5 days (and critical care respiratory floor for another 12.) While in the ICU due to HA double pneumonia and HA septic shock, my family was told I likely would not survive. Prior to this, I was 100 percent healthy. I worked for 44+ years and was a very happy, social and productive person. I am now the opposite. In addition, when this happened, I was newly married, and my husband left me (chronically ill people are not fun and, apparently, he did not sign up for 'sick' me..he wanted 'fun' me who was making a pretty good salary.) (This ICU incident started with my going to the ER with what turned out to be a kidney stone.) That was 6 years ago. I now have 21 diagnoses! Heart failure, fibromyalgia, bodywide joint and muscle pain, tendonitis and bursitis flares, CFS, grossly enlarged thyroid with nodules, high PTH levels, vasculitis, PTSD, etc etc etc. My doctors do not want to discuss my health issues in relation to the ICU incident, but I know there is a connection. (One doctor did say the heart failure is likely from the septic shock.) My inner ears hurt (making phone conversations painful) as do the soles of my feet (makes standing and walking painful) and my right eye swells up for no reason. I feel a kinship with COVID long-haulers but no one seems to care about me because my problems did not come from having COVID. I am desperate to get/feel better but my doctors (I live in the mid'Hudson region of NYS, approx 90 miles north of NYC) either cannot or will not help me. I do not know where to turn at this point. I really wish someone would/could help me. Maybe whatever is happening to me could be useful in helping the COVID long-haulers as I have been experiencing the same symptoms as they are, only mine has been going on for years and have been getting progressively worse.)
I have copies of my medical records, but they are difficult for me to fully understand.
When Dr. Yo (Ram Yogendra) and Dr. Patterson get their website up and running you should contact them thru that site. I think they're going to be looking at Lyme disease and many others that our insular, ignorant factory doctors are too ignorant to treat (it's too much work and easier to give opioids or other Big Pharma drugs.) Yes, I am an a$$hole, but my suggestion is valid - these guys are brilliant!
What a sad story and such pain you’ve been through, Truth. I’m very sorry and hope that you will regain your health soon. I hope you are being good to yourself and taking exceptional care of your nutrition, your sleep, your body movement activities, and calming your stress levels. You are convalescing and allow yourself all the time you need.
@@jflivingston :thank you for the suggestion and for caring. You are most definitely not an a$$hole, because you would not be trying to help me if you were. Your kindness means a lot. (I hope the doctors would be willing to help me because I am at a loss as to where to turn for help.) Again, thank you so much.
@@MStClair-zk8vv :Thank you for caring and for being so kind. It feels good to know there are people who care. Again, thank you so much.
@@Justice4ALL.120 You are more than welcome. You deserve kindness and compassion.
Thank You Doctors for caring enough to help Covid long haulers ,i m sure the number of long haulers will likely increase
Please keep a check on how much symptom decrease/increase coincides with exertion. Do they need convalescence? To be required to rest? To be advised against exertion for a while? When I was a child, in pre-penecillin USA, the rule was that when you were sick, you had to go to bed and stay there. Are these chronic conditions, these incomplete recoveries, happening because we’ve lost that rule? Everyone now is told that exercise is what makes you better. How can anything that takes energy away from our immune system , which desperately needs it, be a good idea? Rehabilitation only becomes relevant once the disease has been completely overcome.
They have identified 5 genomes for severe COVID. Sadly, they have not studied the long haulers who initially were not hospitalized due to 'milder" symptoms that did not require ventilation.
exactly.. i now developed several symptoms.. after being well for more than a week
Thank you.
I'm on day 18 now. Hoping to get relief from this brain fog, dizziness, feeling like I'm not fully in my body, slow thinking, and brain fog, Numbness in part of my arm and pinky, And strangely my teeth feel sore and numb at the same time! Like I've been biting hard crunchy food for too long and coming off novocaine! Lungs still tickly and not able to get a full deep breath, coughing this thin phlegm all day, occasional bouts of heavy coughing, waking up with a headache, strangely detached sleep... not quite insomnia, but struggling to get deep sleep. Chills and sweats still going on periodically. My boss wants me to come back to work, and I work at a daycare, and I have to bend and move and I feel like I'm spinning as it is. I drove for the first time today and driving while feeling like the world is spinning is kind of scary.
did this protocol ultimately help you?
Thank you Dr Patterson, Dr Been and Dr Yo!
Fantastic interview! Check out live chat replay for excellent LH discussion & surprise appearance by Dr Yo
Today is Dec. 13, 2022 - A man in our neighborhood was seriously injured by the vaccine , health and body ruined , couldn't walk for many months , horrible situation but he contacted Dr. Patterson's clinic , did what they say on the website , got the tests and got the prescriptions and in two months he is well . This video is a year old but as of today , I know someone who was healed for sure .
There were recently some publications, about a recent research done by Akiko Iwasaki, and Arron Ring, about various autoantibodies, and their role in severe and long covid.
I didn't understand the research, but there was a lot of publicity about it.
Months behind Patterson, literally. Yale can't touch Silicon Valley medicine, and hasn't attached AI analytics. Akkiko is begging long haulers blood samples. Patterson has gallons worth of markers.
Thanks for that information. I'd like to read that book :)
@@davidmarilley6060 Thanks for the reply. I am familiar with the impressive potential of AI in such fields, and some of my colleagues have already switched to using ML in their research, with correlations that we couldn't get otherwise from the same data.
Slow release Niacin seems to be showing up on a number of long-hauler videos. Would like Dr. Been to do video on if he hasn't already. If he has already covered this I need to be pointed to the video.
Welcome to my world. I've had M.E for 19 years and the medical profession have no clue how to help us, let alone cure us. For decades, many of us have been told our symptoms were part of a psychiatric condition, and were forced to exercise and have CBT to try recover. It is diabolical. We usually see numerous doctors and alternative therapists, spending a fortune trying get well. Unfortunately, very little research has been done into this condition, so the M.E community are hoping that, because of the similarities between LC and M.E, we will now be included in any research and treatment.
I was hospitalised with COVID-19 on the 13th Nov. 2021. My main post symptom is shortness of breath e and then tightness of chest. Fog brain now and againz I am mostly well and I don't work so I can heal myself in a calmly manner. I exersize daily but hopefully it will improve when my breathing does.
I also do intermit 16hr fasting daily for immunity and weight and I only stopped smoking 4 weeks before I went to hospital.
Just sharing my symptoms.
Thankyou
thank you
Hello, has the website referenced by Dr Patterson been launched yet?
Getting in a state of autophagy I feel will help the immune system and I think it does kill "toxins" in the body. I did a one meal a day fasting for six weeks and it burned up all my excess fat and the toxins in my fat cells. I know this, because I had lumps in my fat cells under the skin when I would feel my legs and arms; they were lumpy. After the fasting, it all went away. I could feel aches and pains in those areas when the autophagy was happening. Then, after a few days, the pain would go away. This is how fasting can improve your health and heal the body. I don't think Dr. Patterson has a background in fasting and its benefits, so he is unaware. But Dr. Jason Fung has books on the topic; he is the expert on that.
when was this filmed? I am in the 4th month with symptoms and 5 weeks post positive PCR test. I am not getting better essentially...a few days when I seem to be getting better, then back to worse. Extreme fatigue, pain all over (somewhat shifting) sharper in kidney and lung areas, shortness 0f breath, brain fog, real difficulty thinking/concentrating. Cough comes and goes, mild and seems instigated by increased activity.
Is there a paragraph in simple English somewhere summing this up?
I am interested in being apart of your study. It will be 2 years Oct 29th 2022 since I had my first covid 19 outbreak. I caught it when I was in Renton Washington for work.
34:10 Fibromyalgia specific treatments ? Can someone direct me to a guideline or a study developing this ?
So much is now leaning towards those who have CFS ME Fibromialgia and especially those much worse after covid suffering these long haul issues even more worse now . The whole microclotting in capillaries and interfering with blood flow explains so much as to why we always feel like death, cannot exercise, or no matter how much sleep still wake like have a massive hang over. The weakness and tiredness and lack of flow influences it further and inability to gain muscle or in my case weight gain and muscle wasting and severe pain fron feeling so heavy and fatigued. Slightest exercise backfires ten fold and HR skyrockets diagnosed as POTs. But years ago i had figured this was an oxygen issue and looked into hyperbaric oxygen chamber therapy but it was expensive and not in hospital settings but alternative places which concerned me due to complex heslth issues if something went wrong. Also have severe claustrophobia and the tent looking chambers with no glass made my anxiety go through the roof. You cant just get out if beed as need to decompress etc. So that was a no go for me but curious if others have found this helped. Things are complicated moreso as i have vascular compression Nurcracker syndrome *left renal vein conpression between aorta and SmA". But thst cant be the cause for all this cascade of severe pain, fatigue, neurological issues, fibro, CFS and Pots. Seems all related to lack of oxygenated cells or mitochondria issues related to this. So the new research coming out is hopeful that treating the microclots of sufferes may actually resolve so many other health issues and allow repair and regeneration to these tissues and muscles that we seem to be spiralling each day with no proper interventions.
What in dot points would be the best available treatment in Australia for this ?
Try thiamine protocol by Eliot Overton. Watch his videos. Learn as much as possible about B1 deficiency.
If you used the PCR test, what was the CT value used on the 87 day RNA positive patient?
Let's see how many on the list my 21yo daughter and/or I have been experiencing for over a year now since we both had covid 19, regardless of if I might have just thought it was my fibro worse than usual or whatever. Fatigue, myalgias, brain fog, joint pain, burning sensations, temperature sensitivity, tachychardia, shortness of breath (very infrequent), chest pain (also very infrequent), rash, gastrointestinal, insomnia... well, not every single thing, just nearly so. We need to get treatment. I must figure that out in the budget.
Is there anny science paper on longhauler syndrom after vaccination? I have found papers on longcovid after having covid on dr.Pattersons web page but this interview is the only place I found this being mentioned, but it is exactly what I'm going trough and I need something to show to my GP! TIA!
Contact the CFIDS Association in Charlotte, NC.
Can Valtrex and Ivermectin be used together without adverse effects ?
Drbeen, thank you for your efforts. Please discuss the vaccines PARTICULARLY with regard to ADE
How do I find the site you speak of for long hauler treatment in Chicago and suburb area?
Being a long hauler and I understanding correctly ? Would a Covid within if I understood correctly would I be contagious as though I was when I was hospitalized with active Covid
Susan
Striking similarities between this and ME/CFS. Viral infections have been causing debilitating syndromes probably since the beginning of mankind.
It seems us long haulers have autoantibodies and the symptoms match autoimmune disease more than a respiratory virus over time. I am treating it as an autoimmune disease and follow the directives for treating Lupus.
@ovrjoyd what are the treatment for lupus that you follow
I'm gonna make this rather short but I have the same story and symptoms have your typical long hauler however I'm not quite at the two month mark. But I want to say is nothing really seem to help, my symptoms were random flare ups but kept coming back. I took your standard recommended COVID vitamin's and minerals nothing seem to help. One day I started looking in to cell salts which I had never heard up and order Hyland's Bioplasma Cell salts and I noticed a huge difference immediately after taking them. From what I understand they have various mechanisms but mainly contribute to the proper functioning of your cells and help them with absorption. The next day I felt and immediate change in my body and felt completely different, I feel completely healed it's like my cells were confused and now all the confusion has left my body. I don't know if it was the cell salts or maybe I just happened to get over long covid right this point. But I feel better than I did before COVID.
Which cell salt in particular?
6 MONTHS AFTER C19 I STILL HAD HORRIBLE MULTI ORGAN SYMPTOMS THAT DID SUBSIDE SOMEWHAT. GOT IVERMECTIN AND IT HELPED QUICKLY IN 1-2 DAYS. FEELING SO MUCH BETTER..NORMAL.. WILL STAY ON THE 13 WEEK SCHEDULE. I'M IN A STUDY WITH WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN ST LOUIS.
Thank you for your Brilliance!
📍Have any of you seen a Herxheimer reaction with any of your patients?
(Specifically those NOT ON STEROIDS?
Just wondering what dose of Selzentry is needed for Long Covid and how long do you take it for ?
You understand that "long-haulers" likely have incipient post-viral syndrome and beginning stage Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), don't you? You should!
I was never told about my low vitamin d levels last year when I tested positive, I only heard about it from others. She did blood work last January and never told me to take it. I began taking 4000 units in April.
I have been getting sinus infections after tooth removal 10 years ago. Was being prescribed fluticasone when needed. It’s always at the beginning winter. Not a cold, just a few sneezes, this year my doctor prescribed an antibiotic, she also said I have no antibodies after one year . I’m afraid to take the antibiotic
I hope and pray treatments and cures for long COVID will be developed soon.
I'm a longhauler that had Hep C before the pandemic untreated. I've blood type A+ that I heard is prone to covid. I have had swollen ankles/legs but when I came down with covid, the swelling left. My thought was that my immune system left one area to attack the covid. I also drink alcohol too.
Imagine still drinking alcohol while having Hep C lol You really must hate being alive. Or just an addict that doesnt respect the own body and their surroundings anymore.
@@qyuri69 Imagine somebody that does not understand addiction nor the trauma, the suffering, our society, isolation, the shame and the brain that creates the perfect storm in which it occurs.
See Dr Gabor mate to learn more about addiction. He also could help you with empathy and to see where you use processes, people, love, porn, food, control, work, rage, judgement, or technology as a coping mechanism to life.
One characteristic of active addicts is the lack of empathy for other due to self preservation...
Know thyself.
Thank you so much for the work you are doing on this! It's super frustrating to be told by my insurance carrier doctors there is no treatment and to be sent away time and again.
Have you all looked into the histamines "flaring up" symptoms? I have had my most improvement in the two weeks I started a low histamine diet to remove histamine containing and releasing foods. I was doing well, then one small bar of chocolate set me back almost a week. Im like back to square one... but I've no doctor to check in with - and I live 20 miles from Texas Medical Center. I got this back in january; and no one thinks I have this. Im at my wits end and took it upon my self to try this.
LOW HISTAMINE - lots of info on the web. Be discerning, undestand what has been giving you problems in the past and go from there. Good luck.
Hi Donna, you should check a video from Gez Medinger where he talks about this with Dr Ade Wentzel, they also reccomend some anti-histamine supplements such as Quercetin and Niacin (this latest one apparently the most important)
@@julielawrenz7992 sugar does cause a flare up it did to me
refined sugar blows up my life every time. can't even have an m&m.
Desloratadine seems to work best for me as it's none drowsy and crosses not blood brain barrier . I use EMIQ Quercetin too along NAC and Longvida Tumeric and now Niacin
@@theancientsancients1769 i am suffering with breathing problem for three months after Covid any advice what I should take
Thanks
Has the website to help long haulers that Dr. Patterson is talking about been set up?
Low Dose Naltrexone is a good immune modulator and anti-inflammatory along with optimizing vitamin D level.
What symptoms it help with
I hate to throw cold water but I was on prednisone for 2 years early in my post-viral experience back in the early 90s, and I've still got all the IL markers nearly 30 years later. Steroids can fix you temporarily but whatever the underlying disregulated mechanism was is still operating.
Did you get over the post viral experience?
@@alyssanic I seemed to recover but every time I got over-extended or sick from some other transient illness, my baseline of health got worse. By 10 years later I was unable to work outside the home at all.
Some of these symptoms are found in diabetes, a comorbidity related to a Covid-19 infection. Perhaps its related and so would diabetic treatments help, perhaps metformin, turmeric, berberine, low carb diet, Alpha Lipoic Acid for Neuropathy and muscle weakness?
I agree with your thinking, Richard. Personally, I believe it all results from Diet.
I see Long COVID,( similar to CFS, ME, Fibromyalgia, Adenal Fatigue, POTS, Lyme Disease) as ONE more presentation of Metabolic Syndrome ( ua-cam.com/video/pqutA1dXp4k/v-deo.html ). Amazingly, these are Metabolic Diseases caused by chronic Hyperinsulinemia, resulting from a Diet too rich in Carbohydrates being consumed too frequently during the Day. 🙀
The Standard American Diet comes immediately to mind. It combines extreme amounts of Sugar and Starches with Fat and Industrial Seed Oils, along with Constant Snacking. This spikes Blood Glucose and Blood Insulin, leading to damage of the Endothelium, the cells lining the circulatory system. SARS-Cov-2 also acutely damages the Endothelium, but in the cases of those with Hypertension, Cardiovascular Disease, Diabetes, and Cancer, the Endothelium is ALREADY damaged prior to infection, as well as the Immune System being compromised. This is why people with these Comorbidities experience serious complications with COVID-19.
The Endothelial damage leads to Systemic Inflammation which depletes the Body of Vitamin D, Vitamin A, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium, and other Nutrients necessary for a properly functioning Immune System. Those with low Vitamin D Levels have dysfunctional and fewer T Regulatory White Blood Cells that suppress the Cytotoxic Immune response (see www.drberg.com/blog/the-most-important-white-blood-cell ), plus their response proceeds down a more inflammatory pathway. This also has implications for Autoimmune Diseases, another case of Immune System dysfunction.
When this Cytotoxic Inflammation occurs in the Brain, it can cause dysfunction of the Autonomic Nervous System, affecting hormonal control of the Body and causing the myriad of symptoms ( ua-cam.com/video/xINZnfAB5G8/v-deo.html ) suffered by those with Long COVID/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/ME/POTS/Lyme Disease/etc.
@@andrewstrakele6815 thank you for this. How can a relatively healthy diet with a reasonable amount of carbohydrates have been completely fine for an individual prior to Covid, but not fine anymore as a long hauler?
What you are saying about insuline here has been observed and described to me by my doctor. My insuline is somehow too active, there is not enough resistance to insuline entering cells, which apparently has the effect of stopping cell repair (anabolism) too soon. The cells are badly nourished and catabolism is triggered in a loop as a result. Moreover, this hyper active insuline has an effect on somatostatine which then inhibits the activity of all the pituitary gland hormones (TSH, prolactine, GnRH, GH). I fully understand everything about this but I do find it a fascinating observation. I would really like to understand why this insuline becomes hyperactive. I’ve been reading about Interleukin 6 and it’s regulatory role in glucose management in the muscles, in the liver, and how its levels have been measured as very high in a certain kind of obesity, created apparently by ‘hyperinsulinemic -euglucemic clamp’. I really don’t know if it’s all related or not. But i’m curious. Including on the role of serotonine as glucose distributor in the the brain and the gut... all so complex. However insuline clearly does seem to be at the heart of this long haulers problem...
*don’t fully understand
@@mrjean765 - Thanks for your reply! I will attempt to answer a couple of your questions.
1) A healthy Whole Foods Diet with a reasonable amount of Carbohydrates was what Humans evolved to eat over 200,000 years of evolution. But their Diet was significantly different, and Lower Carb than what we eat today. The KEY is what is a “reasonable” amount of Carbohydrates. Ancient Hunter-Gatherers consumed a Diet with the equivalent of about 5-10 lbs of Sugar in Carbs per year. Today, the average person consumes over 150 lbs! 🙀.
The problems began when Humans began to cultivate grains starting about 30,000 years ago. This added increased amounts of plant Antinutrients such as Guten, Lectins, and Oxalates, as well as extra Carbohydrates from refined grains. ua-cam.com/video/bY2v6AnEyuU/v-deo.html shows the health issues of the largely agrarian ancient Egyptians.
The Human Diet accelerated downhill in nutrition in the late 1800’s when refined Sugar made its appearance, and it went Completely Off the Rails in the 1960’s when the Low Fat, Low Cholesterol Diet was deemed to provide the best protection against Cardiovascular Disease, which was rapidly increasing in incidence from the 1920’s.
Increasing amounts of Sugar (example: High Fructose Corn Syrup) was added to Highly-Processed Low Fat Foods to improve their taste and shelf life. Many were also made with inflammatory Industrial Seed Oils (examples: Vegetable Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil. From the late 1960’s there have been increasing epidemics of Obesity, Fatty Liver Disease, Diabetes, Cardiovascular Disease, Kidney Disease, Cancer, and Alzheimer’s.
The Hunter-Gatherer also did NOT eat 3 Meals a Day with Constant Snacking in-between. They typically spent the day searching for Food, and eating what they could find in a communal meal. Sometimes their attempts to gather sufficient food failed. This lifestyle involved a lot of Fasting during the Day when times were good and Multi-Day Fasting when times were bad. During Fasting time, the Hunter-Gather could sustain himself by entering Ketosis and burning the Fat stored from consuming extra Calories from eating beyond the immediate need for Energy.
In summary, the modern Standard American Diet, with its Constant eating of High Carb, Highly-Processed foods is NOT fine for ANY Human. This Nutritional “Experiment” has run for almost 60 years, and the results are plain to see - increasing Epidemics of Chronic Diseases.
2) Why does Insulin become “Hyperactive?” It is the High Carbohydrate content of the Diet. It spikes Blood Glucose and the Pancreas must release excessive amounts of Insulin to remove the excess Glucose from the Blood, allowing it to enter the Cells of the Body. But the excess Sugar of a Modern Diet is too much for the Cells to handle, so they begin to resist the Insulin as a protective mechanism to prevent any more Glucose from crossing the Cell Membrane.
This Insulin Resistance leads to Leptin Resistance which controls Satiety. As a result, the signal to the Brain to stop eating because the Gut is Full is diminished, causing overeating and Obesity. Over a Decade or more, the High Blood Insulin and Blood Glucose damage the Endothelial lining of the Circulatory System and compromise the Body’s Immune System. The resulting Inflammation from the Immune System response damages Organs and Tissues, leading to the many Chronic Diseases of Metabolic Syndrome.
The point I’m suggesting is that Long COVID is another manifestation of Metabolic Syndrome, as a result of the DEVIATION from the Ketogenic Diet with Fasting of our Paleo-ancestors. In this case, the Endothelial damage is accelerated by the SARS-Cov-2 viral infection and causes inflammation in the Brain, leading to dysfunction of the Autonomic Nervous System. This area of the Brain controls the release of hormones, such as Cortisol, the Stress Hormone. Its dysfunction results in the myriad symptoms of Long COVID that last long after the viral infection is ended.
I’m also suggesting key to recovery from Long COVID is to reduce the Brain Inflammatory and Optimize the Immune System. Reduce the consumption of Carbs by following a Low Carb, Noninflammatory Ketogenic Diet, which also supports the Immune System. Gradually increasing the amount of time NOT Eating (Fasting) will then also help to heal the damage to the Autonomic Nervous System and other Organs of the Body.
What doses of Methylprednisolone is Dr Mobeen prescribing his Long haulers patients? Does anybody know ? I Heard that 5 days of this treatment is often succesfull.
Isn't it funny, but all these long haulers have the same complaints as most Graves patients, and a lot of them are getting the brush off from their Endos. You would think that for the amount of years that the medical profession has had in dealing with Graves, Hashimotos etc., that they would have had this already figured out, and been able to find the markers triggering those for these people.
No test was avail in 3 /24/20 , all later test all neg. Now all symptoms of long haulers no treatment . kidneys failing now. What are the markers?
Are there extensive studies ongoing for #LongCovid
I was disappointed that the interview was cut off before the question about ME/CFS and similarities to Covid Long-Haulers syndrome was addressed.
Anxiety through the roof, anger despair….guilt
What is the website for long haulers with Dr Patterson?
Do you know of any doctors in Milwaukee Wisconsin are treating long haulers. And what about antibiotic for sinus infection, doesn’t it compromise the immune system?
Dr. MOBEEN: Sell ivermectin to Patterson. I think the interferon block during SARS2 replication is a prime factor in causing hyperimmunity as if we were seeing 100 bowling pins being knocked down at one time.
I was just reading about autoantibodies reducing interferon. Seems interferon inhalers might help.
@@sherkirkpatrick8060 Not a significant factor with the replication mechanism....For this Ivermectin knocks out the whole process.
What about hair loss?
@@janetgarcia3273 From what cause?
Not clear if importin beta is obstructed, or if PRR obstruction, like MA5 from altered biochemistry of induced membranous compartments formed by all beta coronaviruses, all of which interfere with PAMPs. IFN antagonism could happen one of several ways, or all at one time.
So any new solutions? I am 10 months out from my initial infection back in November 2020. This has been the hardest, most brutal thing. I’ve seen multiple doctors and they all look at me like a deer in headlights. I know there is no “silver bullet” but let’s get us long haulers some real answers. This video came out around the time I got sick. I wish I never got the vaccine. He’s so right when he said “it adds fuel to the fire.” I was 90% and then fell back to about 10%. This depression, anxiety, muscle pain, severe insomnia, numbness and tingling, etc etc is no way to live. So any NEW therapies?! Thanks!
I am a long hauler suffering from fatigue, muscle pain, fatigue sometimes the blues. Mental fatigue, did I just heard that the jab is counterproductive to take since immune systems is boosted? And when us the jab recommended to take after the symptoms go away?
Discussing pathways Functional medicine doctors have known and been treating for years Without long term steroids
I have extreme burning pain... Perithesia.... It intense and beyond. Plz help us.... What doze of steroids should I take
This was a while ago any new discoveries?
Anyone know of any clinics that are specifically dealing with this in the uk?
Funny how he didn’t mention headaches in that list of common symptoms.
Yes, that was severe as well as SOB, Low oxygen levels.
Dr been did mention that in another blog. That it was a symptom.
Can you discuss Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
When medicine couldn’t find an explanation, the psychiatrists applied initial capitals, and medically unexplained symptoms became Medically Unexplained Symptoms, which, shortened to MUS, became a psychiatric diagnostic category. As an experienced and successful psychotherapist, also PWME, I propose that if you cannot find any narrative that could explain the occurrence of multiple and complex medical symptoms (terrible childhoods, terrible experiences, corrosive relationships, terrible social conditions), these symptoms become psychiatrically unexplained symptoms or even Psychiatrically Unexplained Symptoms, (PUS), and the patient must be referred back to medical science.
Anyone know what the low dose steroid is that they are prescribing to long haulers? Thanks