Pro-tactile ASL: A new language for the DeafBlind
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This man is speaking a brand new language. You can’t see or hear it-it’s communicated through touch.
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amazing how much us humans are able to come up with to communicate.
These are some pretty dope handshakes
lmao
lmfao
I'm dead 💀😅🤓
Welp I'm doomed🔥😈🔥🤣🤣🤣
I'm late to this party but don't mock a real language that is used by people who need it to communicate
This is just absolutely mind-boggling that they've created such an intricate way to communicate when two major senses are inaccessible to them. It's so cool to watch, But how do they learn what things like "I'm going to do ___" mean when they can't see or hear what they mean?
That’s what I was wondering too
They can experience the activity through touch. Like I'm going shopping. I can use my hand to touch the apples, oranges, etc. Even though I can't see or hear. I can still use my touch to gather useful information about the world.
I wonder how do they learn like what if you were born Fully blind and deaf how do you learn?
@@godislovedayany5098 It's actually easier this way. Children absorb information faster and more easily than adults do. Just think about how you grew up and the language you speak, you probably don't remember learning it but you speak it, right? Same thing for Deaf-Blind, Blind, or Deaf people -when you grow up in that world of language it becomes second nature. The earlier the better and that's why it's so important to make sure that children everywhere have access to places that can teach them the language if the parents cannot.
@Rob M Thank you for explaining this
I can’t imagine how hard it is to learn sign without being able to see OR hear what the signs mean, I have all of my senses and I struggle
For real though how the hell do they learn it
@@mikethespike056 they have to.
@@mikethespike056 To explain from a teacher's perspective: when you learn a language, you get every chance to be immersed in the language. Because I am constantly interacting with deaf, blind, and HOH individuals, I get that as a part of my language. Humans are innately keen to communicator; just as you would show a child an apple and say the word, you bring the apple, have the person study the applet and give said fruit it's designated sign. Conventional language comes after you are fully immersed in the wonderful realm of communication.
Also, there is no "cut off" for language learning. Get to work picking up that language that intimidated you.
It's mostly by association. It's how we learn languages anyway.
@@olliekyles2159Not so fun fact: There is a cutoff age for your first language. I don't remember the exact age, but you have to learn a language as a child, or you'll never truly get it. There was this case of a girl who was abused and neglected by her father and never learned a language. Later on, she was rescued, and she learned a lot of words and their meanings, but in the same way we taught apes sign language. She didn't really get it. She never gasped complex communication.
Luckily, children's brains are like sponges, so I doubt it would be much more difficult for deafblind kids to learn as long as they're being signed to from a very young age.
I just met a couple in Virginia like this. He is deaf and she is deaf and almost completely blind. Watching them communicate was amazing. 😎
How did they communicate?
@@pneron2032 like how you see in the video, duh
@@drycoochie2146 That isn't a foregone conclusion, my dearest.
I can't imagine to live without sound and light, these people are strongest
ngl I looked this up because I saw a video of a baby that's deafblind and I was curious to how they'd grow to communicate and learn in any way ...this is something so much more than I hoped for and is just humans being wonderful.
Mind you it's the morbid curiosity that got me, would they ever know their parents? Would they think in any language in particular? What does their inner monologue sound like to them. Would they ever even know their parent could have passed away if they were put in a home..concerning kind of thoughts but I would like to think they'd know :').
@@TheAxehI’m not super well-versed on the subject, especially in this specificity, but Robert Sapolsky has some incredible lectures where he discusses how infants are very sensitive to smell and pheromones during early years, which has neurological effects as well as an impact on parental bonding. Not to mention the neurological effects of skin on skin contact. Like I said, I don’t know a lot but I don’t see why things like that wouldn’t apply with deafblind infants as well. Humans are pretty incredible. Thanks for your comment, makes me want to research this more. 🙏
Haven't you ever heard of Helen Keller? Thanks to her and Laura Bridgman, we've already known for over 100 years that deafblind people can communicate and learn. I thought everybody learned about Helen Keller in school.
this is so incredible
Great video! I'm legally blind. I'm not deaf or hard of hearing but I wanted to learn ASL and this is how I'm learning. It's so much better for me to do it this way then to try and guess the vissual sign.
Came by this video because of my racing 2am thoughts and questions and I am absolutely NOT disappointed. These individuals amaze me. They are coming up with a whole new way to perceive the world and build relationships. They are going to make the world so much brighter and (I hope) a little bit easier for the future deafblind generations to follow them by further evolving this language. The human mind amazes me sometimes. ESPECIALLY theirs! Us humans are social beings with a thirst for knowledge and relationships and nothing will stop us from gaining this! These guys prove that ❤️
Yes, so true! Folks are literally connected when they communicate by touch.
This realy shows the adaptebility of menkind
It shows how no matter what challenges humanity faces naturally we find ways around everything.
If you have will to live, you can overcome EVERYTHING. Check people like Stephen Hawking. Literally condemned to become a wheelchar speaking robot... But he didnt become that. He became one of the greatest minds of our times.
It also shows how embedded in us the need for communication and connection with others is. People use their ingenuity to make those connections and to talk to each other when the main ways of communication they have are insufficient.
I wonder how they managed to cope through this pandemic without being able to touch!? Crazy thought!
I honestly can't wrap my hesd around how deafblind people can relate their sign language to reality using only touch.
For example deaf people can still have visual indicators of an object and the associated hand sign. Like a person can point at an object before making a hand sign to indicate one relates to the other.
But using only touch, teaching someone that the object they just felt relates to the hand sign they felt immediately after must be incredibly difficult.
Fascinating.
Same, it’s hella interesting
Look up Helen Keller and Laura Bridgman. In Helen's case, it actually did take her some time to realize that the shapes Anne Sullivan was spelling into her hand related to objects and concepts; but that might just be because she had gone several years almost completely deprived of language. And I don't know how she and Laura Bridgman were taught abstract concepts with just fingerspelling, but somehow they managed it. If you do enough research I'm sure you'll find an explanation somewhere.
I couldn't imagine learning prepositions and adverbs like these extraordinary people
I’ve always wondered how deaf-blind people could interact with others, this is so interesting!
I work for an immigration office, and we have a client using that tecnique. I was fascinated with this new pro-tactile languaje.
I've always had admiration for various adaptations humans make to work around disabilities. I know a little ASL & have worked with kids in our deaf school & loved it!
Short. Quick. Informative. Gets right to the point. 👍
This is super cool and interesting to me ! I’m not deaf or blind but love asl and this is just amazing to me
It's truly fascinating
Im already fluent in ASL, might as well learn how it works for DeafBlind people. But tbh I saw the tree thing, and my first thought was "SIGNING WITH FOUR HANDS"
I never knew about protactile sign language until this video. Thanks for sharing!
Extremely amazing. Thank you for sharing this video.
the content and editing of this video really hit me emotionally.
This is amazing. I'm just today learning about Protactile. I wonder how communicating with Protactile influences one's interactions, experiences, and perspectives, with communication, relationships, and life. Touch is a necessity and you're literally connected to others when you communicate. It's beautiful.
I don't understand how they would understand what each sign or movement means. It's mind blowing. Like you can't point and say this sign means bottle or this sign means water
don't point, give them the object. I also suggest that you watch the helen keller movie, it shows this in action and how she started to learn.
@@sharmainelc Helen Keller was not born deafblind. She was starting to learn how to speak when she got ill and lost her sight and hearing at 19 months old. Her first word was "water" (or "wa-wa" in baby talk). But when she got sick she stopped learning language. At age six and after intense sessions with Annie Sullivan, Helen was finally able to tap into one of her earliest memories and remember that the stuff flowing into her hand as she stood at the pump was "wa-wa". This was when the proverbial lightbulb went on and she remembered what language was. But this was not a moment of insight when she suddenly discovered language.
@@jacejohnson7113 Keep in mind that deafness and blindness are spectra. Not all deaf people are 100% deaf and not all blind people are 100% blind. Also, not all deaf and/or blind people were born deaf and/or blind, but rather became so later in life.
That said, the human brain is wired to acquire language. There is nothing special about audio-based languages. Modality aside, deaf babies acquire language the exact same way hearing babies acquire language.
That's absolutely amazing, it blows my mind.
Incredible. I really do think ASL and Pro-tactile ASL should be taught in elementary school. I want to learn.
I can't believe that PT didn't began until 2007. So happy it is growing, evolving, and being more utilized so our D-B peers can be part of experience! ❤
It's so fascinating to see it in action. I'm currently interested in ways of tactile signing for development for a couple of my characters.
It's impressive how many ways there are to communicate.
My husband also deafblind but I use only manual but I'll learn sign very soon
Wow! How clever and beautiful 😲
Helen Keller didn't just use fingerspelling. She learned to speak through the Tadoma Method, where a hand (or both) is placed on the face to feel the vibrations of speech.
She could do both. She learned finger spelling first.
I really do feel bad for deaf blind people. I’m very happy there is a way to communicate with them, it just isn’t easy and a lot of people have to learn some of this stuff too to communicate with them.
deaf blind people probably feel the same way about hearing sighted people
That is a beautiful language .
But...how do they learn sign language if they’re born deafblind
Christian Kawrje that’s what I’m wondering
There is a fascinating book about this, research about Marie Heurtin and her teacher ! You can also watch the movie Marie Heurtin. Basically you start with easy associations : make the person touch water and make her do the water sign with your hands. As you learn the first words it will help learning the more elaborate ones !
Rob M if you’re deaf and blind how did you type that all out...
Rob M I work with people with intellectual disabilities and I love what I do. However it’s really hard to tell if they are truly happy and living fulfilling lives as many of them have a difficult time verbalizing or articulating their thoughts and feelings. Your comment made me feel good. I’m glad to see you are able to live your life they way you want with the help of adaptive equipment and technologies!
Rob M it’s an inspiring and humbling calling. I’m glad you’re in a better place now!
COVID social distancing must have done a number on these deafblind folk
And also on kids with developmental delay. They could no longer go to their schools and training centres
Thank you so much.
Amazing!
Humanity can be brilliant and beautiful too
Imagine their somatosensory cortex layout
Fck u
as neuro major that was literally what I was thinking
I've always wondered this
The professor's work is noble
I just learned from in school deaf and blind people are can’t see or can’t hear if so sad tho 😢❤
This is extraordinary! Well done. 🤜🤛
But how do they start learning?
Where is the captioning for this video?
bruh
literally in the cc ???
I didn’t know that a deafblind person could think, like, how someone who doesn’t know that kind of language lives? since for the thoughts it's kind of necessary that voice in your head or images. I'm really sorry if I was offensive in any way, I'm just trying to understand more about it
FASCINATING!!! 😯
How's this work with social distancing?
it doesn't. covid-19 affects disabled people in ways that are completely different to how it affects abled people. it's a significant problem
@@yeahsuredude7082 dude that sucks. I'm so sorry.
Imagine how hard it is when you can't hear or see a thing...
João Victor Bombonato de Paula I would have just killed myself already
@@user-oh2hx9kf8d If you watched this video and thought "wow being deafblind sucks I'd just kill myself" then I you might have missed the whole point.
Maya Lopez Your right, I haven’t watched the video, I just assumed my opinion by just reading the title, besides pretty much anyone would have this exact conclusion and I don’t mean everybody, I mean most of the entire population
Pickle Rick agreed
That physically challenged guy dressed better than me 🙌
if you're born deafblind HOW do you to communicate? like how do you register that shaking your hands will convey a meaning how do you learn language? so many things are just skipped over
All humans are born with a language acquisition device (LAD). We all have the innate capacity to develop language of any kind. As babies, our brains are sponges specifically sensitive to language as babies. Spoken language and ASL both use the same language centered areas of the brain, even though the receptive and expressive modalities are different (eyes and hands vs. ears and vocal tract). Pro-tactile sign is no different with touch and hands. They register language the same way we do, just with hands and touch.
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How did they learn it tho
so dope
Any good books or vids on this so I can study?
This isn't new. It's been around for decades.
Yes, as noted in the video, since the early 2000s.
Seems very difficult
cc Carolin for people who need it it's far better than nothing.
ilikeceral3 yes you are right
I guess you'd get used to it over time.
I reckon that you'd be perfect at it and it would only take 12 hrs a day 7 days a week practise for the next couple of years or so. Easy peasy :-)
I'm lucky I can see and hear but I cannot for the life of me comprehend how it's possible to teach ANYTHING to someone who can't see or hear. It doesn't make any sense. Completely baffled????
If anyone ever reads this and understands the process,please explain it to me.
you too have the senses of touch, smell, taste, vestibular and proprioception, as well as imagination, no? sight and hearing are just two of seven senses
wow this is so interesting
i’m so stoned i’ve watched this video lol 3 times
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this is awesome
I love this!
How to teach them that ?
Well do you learn it if you are born blind and deaf how do you give definition to the gestures
That's just amazing ❤
I searched this vid out of curiosity. But what if you're a deafblind without a hand?
that's pretty interesting!
how do they learn this if they are deaf and blind from birth? they have never seen a tree, never been able to experience it getting cut, someone pls explain
you too have the senses of touch, smell, taste, vestibular and proprioception, as well as imagination, no? sight and hearing are just two of seven senses
@@terrjackson9283 those two are primary senses and imagination doesnt work if there is no input
they get taught what a tree is
I am about to be totally superficial and point out that the professor is cute! 🙂👍
Very cool.
amazing 💙
That looks very uncomfortable... I imagine you'd have to do this with someone who is okay with having their arms and chest touched...
Absolutely. As someone who is learning tactile signing, you need to be comfortable with touch.
Both deaf and blind people are more used to being touched than hearing and sighted people.
I was thinking the same thing. Rubbing your hands over a woman's breast might be uncomfortable. LMBAO!
In their culture it is not uncomfortable. It would be rude not to do this if you are able to
It is culturally accepted that you have to touch each other in order to communicate and it is different than would be romantic/sexual touch. And for people who commented about a woman you wouldn't touch their breasts but somewhere closer to the neck.
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How do they learn it tho
So... if the other person is sighted (like the dude in purple appears to be), couldn't/wouldn't Oscar just be able to sign without the addition of touch? And then conversely, when Oscar is the listener, the OTHER speaker would use pro-tactile ASL?
If the other person understands English and German, and Oscar can speak both but only understands German, would it make sense for Oscar to speak in English while the other guy speaks in German? It would work of course, but it seems a lot simpler to just converse in the common language.
Conversation is a two-way endeavor. If Oscar was just using ASL, he would be kind of "speaking into the void" when he signed, not able to get feedback from his conversation partner. With pro-tactile, he can get a sense of how the person he is conversing with is reacting. Kind of like you can read someone's facial expressions while you're talking to them - part of why a video call or face-to-face conversation is richer than an audio-only phone call or a text message conversation. While it's possile to communicate in many ways, you try to pick the one that's best for a given person/conversation etc.
I want to learn it
What a scary world they live in omg this sucks soo much
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How do you learn this if you’re deaf and blind?
How do you learn any other language?
you too have the senses of touch, smell, taste, vestibular and proprioception, as well as imagination, no? sight and hearing are just two of seven senses
How they learn it in the first place
Can someone teach me this 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I love Hellen keller that is how i learnd singh lagwig
Is it possible to learn if you go blinddeaf later in life and not from birth?
Are there other forms of deafblind communication? Like for Japanese or Spanish sign language?
ilikeceral3 i think so, i just saw a tactile for japanese, at least it looked like it.
Abandon RZ omoshiroi ne
Block spelling is for each individual letter so I assume it can be done for different writing systems.
Than I have a lot to learn...
Wow
How do they even learn it omg
this is proof humans can find ways to solve almost everything
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Can any one tell me how to say hello in Pro tactile ASL please?
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What if deaf, blind and having no limbs?
Then the guy speaking to the deaf will put his hand inside the deaf's mouth, and start doing those moves.
bro they cant touch in covid tho
How does he know about dial-up and broad brand?
RandomBrownLunchSack lol
RandomBrownLunchSack maybe he read about it in Braille
He probably has a computer with a braille display. They're not quite as popular with blind people who hear well, because software that reads the screen out loud is cheaper. But they do exist and some blind people use them and obviously they're the only practical option for deafblind people who want to use computers.
Image not having arms..
Just like haleen killer