G5RV vs ZS6BKW vs Fan Dipole vs DX-CC vs Trap Dipole

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • Multi-Band Horizontal "dipole" Antennas.
    This presentation found on the Internet and I thought I should uploaded in youtube for your info.
    All credits and copyrights go to the unknown guy who prepared and presented this.

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  • @oldolfmann8927
    @oldolfmann8927 Рік тому +1

    DX-CC is a great antenna, bands can be tuned easily by adjusting the wires. I have used dozens of antennas and the DX-CC has been the best of all, for transmit and receive, it doesn't matter if it is 6 feet off the ground, or 60 feet, it always performs great. It does take time to assemble all the components the first time tho.

  • @danshankle
    @danshankle 7 років тому +3

    Thank you! VERY well done and informative! For MY limited space (lot is 65 Feet wide) the DX-CC 82' as Inverted Vee seems BEST solution for me, I am running Icom IC-718 with an LDG IT-100 Tuner. Thanks Again 73, "Doc" N7QBK

  • @supton1532
    @supton1532 11 місяців тому +1

    Had a G5RV for a number of years. When it was up high, but no center support, I called an inverted-inverted V antenna. :) Bad coax loss, tuner worked really hard--but it would tune 17m and it made a number of contacts. Back closer to the ground it wasn't quite the same performer--hardly any surprise there. Higher is better.
    Homebrewed a ZS6BKW and it is just a better antenna, unless if one operates 80m most of the time, and even then... it's better. But still. It's not like a G5RV is a trash antenna and "anything" is going to be better. Just been surpassed, but if one has one in the junkbox, or was given one, rock and make contacts.
    Tempted to homebrew an Alpha Delta DD. My antennas are using trees for supports, and as such, every couple of years a rope breaks. No harm in having more than one antenna up at a time! Lost a couple this past winter, so time to hang another antenna. At that point, one not have one of each kind?

  • @robertkeller619
    @robertkeller619 9 років тому

    Don't know how this doesn't have more views. This was extremely helpful. Liked and subbed.

    • @presidentspilot
      @presidentspilot Рік тому

      You, Sir, ARE SO RIGHT! I don't know why, either, there are not more views!! THIS is a FANTASTIC ARTICLE!!

  • @micahhaislett4368
    @micahhaislett4368 8 років тому +2

    Excellent video. Very informative. Thank you!

  • @hagei406
    @hagei406 Рік тому +1

    Very good, no bla bla , no show and gadgetery, .. not myth´s , just Facts !

  • @ronjones4069
    @ronjones4069 4 роки тому

    Excellent presentation. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @dougelick8397
    @dougelick8397 Рік тому

    Thanks for the excellent overview.

  • @johnpawlicki1184
    @johnpawlicki1184 8 років тому +1

    I have been using a homebrew ZS6BKW for well over a decade. Flat top but drooped at the ends. Really performed well, even with the tuner at the radio.

    • @joaquintall5180
      @joaquintall5180 3 роки тому +1

      John, can you supply the specs with which you home-brewed your ZS6? I know the total length of the antenna, but am interested in the dimensions between the 4 insulators.

  • @billbrown3414
    @billbrown3414 Рік тому +1

    Feed-line Loss vs. SWR: This presenter neglected to point out that loss is frequency dependent. Losses for a given SWR on 10m will be unacceptable while the same SWR on 80m will be relatively negligible.
    The real long and short of this is that, if you have an antenna tuner, you might as well do what I've done (successfully!) for nearly 50 years: String up as much wire as you can manage, center-feed it with open-wire line, and use the tuner....and then you can forget nearly all the feed line and radiator length restrictions.

  • @daveloriw
    @daveloriw 9 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video. Just bought the ZS6 yesterday. Looking forward to comparing it to my Skyloop with AG6IF Talented Balun 73

    • @kpappa
      @kpappa  9 років тому +1

      David Whittlesey A friend of mine used ZS6 and is a great antenna. The trick to make it perform better is avoid close obstacles or structures. And remember the higher the better.

    • @sealteem5
      @sealteem5 8 років тому +1

      +David Whittlesey it will blow your mind its that awesome of a, antenna

    • @tonytyler6390
      @tonytyler6390 7 років тому

      thanks for the info guys.... tony t.. n0amy...

    • @ab5gc
      @ab5gc 3 роки тому

      David
      How does the ZS6 compare to the AG6IF?
      de Joe ab5gc

  • @JosephMassimino
    @JosephMassimino 5 років тому

    The G5RV , made with ladder line, utilizes the ladder line as part of the antenna, when the antenna is put into bands that it normally would not work. Similar to and off center fed dipole, which can wipe the G5RV out of antenna history, if hams would understand it, and install it correctly, use the correct BALUN at the correct height .

  • @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238
    @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238 5 років тому

    Very interesting tnx 73 de ve3hip in Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

  • @billa.2450
    @billa.2450 4 роки тому

    I use the ZS6BKW and find is the best 40 thru 6 meters single wire antenna I have used in my 49 years as a ham. It alao does a good job o 60 meters.

    • @joaquintall5180
      @joaquintall5180 3 роки тому

      Bill...did you homebrew your ZS6, or did you purchase it from a retail vendor? 73 de

  • @pu4mksmarkussalustianosalu783
    @pu4mksmarkussalustianosalu783 4 роки тому

    Parabéns pelo vídeo amigo muito bom

  • @WolfgangS
    @WolfgangS 2 роки тому

    Very nice. I miss the windom ;)

  • @bigfoottoo2841
    @bigfoottoo2841 8 років тому

    excellent video, thanks

  • @ontwowheels6479
    @ontwowheels6479 Рік тому

    I don’t have the vertical space for the zs

  • @mikesmithg0rfd356
    @mikesmithg0rfd356 5 років тому

    the g5rv with made for 75 ohm twin feed line not coax he may also have been radio a 75 ohm pa out like may Kw2000.

  • @G5STU
    @G5STU Рік тому

    What the hell is all the background noise

  • @paulhastings3109
    @paulhastings3109 2 роки тому

    order ZS6BKV now being made my Chris NI4L. can't wait.
    been off the air from hurricane losted everything.
    It would be interesting to use some of the programs. Have any links. nothing like starting over. the technology is killing me. any info you could share or link. Logging with HRD WOW.
    thank you
    73 KQ4CD

  • @donaldsmith3048
    @donaldsmith3048 3 роки тому +2

    there is a improved ZS6BKW! ZS6BKW moved to Great Britian, his call now is G0GSF. But because of the small spaces in England gardens he has made some changes where the end go out and the last part drops down. I hope you don't mind me putting some updates to this! Just though you may like to see this. In the past 7 years there has been some changes. Below is the video that I got the information. If I upset you for this you can beat me with a wet noodle! Sorry about that chief!
    ua-cam.com/video/EypzupYh3uw/v-deo.html

    • @kpappa
      @kpappa  3 роки тому

      Thanks mate, thanks for the info!
      I will study this video link, is quite long.
      73s

    • @donaldsmith3048
      @donaldsmith3048 3 роки тому

      @@kpappa it is a talk about the 2 antennas and how he came up with them. There are some other videos about it, but that is the one I found first.

  • @georgelulelaru357
    @georgelulelaru357 Рік тому

    George, HP1EUA/VA2EU...Between G5RV and ZS6BKW, which works bette in 80m, please?

  • @PatAutrey
    @PatAutrey 3 роки тому

    Would you please post the specs for the loading coil

  • @feorr1
    @feorr1 5 років тому

    question what frequency were you testing at for swr on the dx-cc im looking at getting one of those need to know if i need to use my tuner on it for phone portion in general coverage thanks

  • @davemette-w2acc36
    @davemette-w2acc36 4 роки тому

    went mounting on a tower how far should the ladder line be kept away from the tower legs

    • @iamagr8hunter
      @iamagr8hunter 4 роки тому

      As far as possible. Keep every parts away from structures for optimum performance.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 4 роки тому

    How do you tune the ZS6BKW dipole I believe there’s a balun at the end of the ladder line, unless it’s not and just molded into an so239 connector, so if that’s the case, is that where it’s tuned ? Iow, tune it remotely at that coax connector ? I didn’t understand what he meant when he talked about tuning inductances L1
    and L2 ?? Thanks for the video.

    • @iamagr8hunter
      @iamagr8hunter 4 роки тому

      The computer model has figured the specs. You don’t have to tune, it’s fine for you. Just follow the measurements on thee wires and the ladder line to a “T” and it will work as this videos charts show. You will have to tune 80 of course. 😉

  • @jrreid24
    @jrreid24 5 років тому

    What are the specs for the ZS using 450ohm LL?
    Thanks 73
    KM4VHB
    Jason

    • @iamagr8hunter
      @iamagr8hunter 4 роки тому

      Not enough to matter if you use the video for building this on UA-cam. They are using 450 ohm ladder line.

  • @stevenlawhon3695
    @stevenlawhon3695 4 роки тому

    feedline 39.3ft antenna 97ft

    • @stevenlawhon3695
      @stevenlawhon3695 4 роки тому

      Err 93 ft feed line 39 ft 3 in( say good bye to that g5rv) You tube vid.

  • @steve0432
    @steve0432 8 років тому

    It would be nice to see if you could do a test on the Western 10 HF dipole antenna. What do you think?
    Cheers Steve

  • @JayN4GO
    @JayN4GO 5 років тому +2

    No ocf or doublet or efhw?

  • @brian.7966
    @brian.7966 4 роки тому

    he talks very fast,

  • @ae4xo
    @ae4xo 8 років тому +1

    where to buy the z6s?

  • @americaswayout4489
    @americaswayout4489 2 роки тому

    The whole G5RV story is seldom told? It isn't a multiband antenna by design. The purpose of it was to somehow work the UK on 20 meters. for hams in the UK. The so-called feedline or ladder line which likely was 300 ohm in the beginning WAS a part of the radiator and suppose to be mounted with it being straight down and to cause a vertical component to the antenna. Because it LOOKS like a doublet sellers found it easy to sell it when used with a tuner to be multiband. it was never that in the mind of its creator? To mount it correctly is no easy task if tower-mounted no amount of separation could remove the metal tower's influence. It was designed to make it easier for UK hams to work each other on 20 meters and is claimed to work well for that purpose. Like is said often all antennas work but some are better than others if correctly mounted its multiband ability is very limited but some will say it works well for them. My experience with the version I had was disappointing because it couldn't be correctly mounted on my property so it had wire added and more feedline to become a very long doublet.