But she did say that just because magic doesn't exist for her, it couldn't exist for others; she has figured out the true nature of magic, and thus she knows that it's not non-existent; however, it's because she knows this that her denial of witches is so powerful; she can defeat them without needing to "disprove magic." Episode 5 confirms this; it's not that magic is a lie, it's just that it's not the reason-defying force we're lead to think it is.
It also sounds a lot like a couple themes from kingdom hearts, but the similar tunes may just be a attributed to the fact that this a is a sort of common ish melody.
Endgame results are there only to help you easily recall who died how in each of episodes. It gets pretty hard after a while, especially with 6 on first twilight. It reflects how it appears in game, and it's not guaranteed to be true. Actually if it was it would probably give out real culprit, be it a witch or a human. So we couldn't be neither pro-mystery nor anti-mystery, right? :) And I'm pro-mystery myself :D
That is exactly my belief as well. I mean look at the whole oyashiro sama incident in Higurashi. Oyashiro sama did exist in the form of Hanyu however she was in no way responsible for the murders it was all humans. So Magic in umineko can be the same thing. A scapegoat and a veil over what is really going on. Besides if there was no magic there would be no Kakera and no Bern or Lambda XP
This has to be the only answer. Otherwise, the only explanation for all of the meta-world would have to be 'dreams' 'hallucinations' or something like that. That'd be, frankly, an insult to the readers. Regarding the events of the 'Future' Ange, it's believed that she, indeed, was killed by Kasumi during her visit to Rokkenjima.
didn't beato outlaw that right at the beginning? "because it would result in a stalemate". of course we all know that's part of her game. the real reason is because magic doesn't exist c;
Regarding your doubt about the endgame results, I think that they're pretty much absolute (fake info would be a cheap shot) but, like the red truth, it can be deceiving. Think about this: Kinzo, as stated in the third or fourth chapter, is a title, not a name.
***** "Black truth is not a substitute for the red truth at all, it doesn't even make sense. Both quotations and black are mere representations of it" [red] Writing like this is probably the most accurate way [red] [red] In any case, both black truth and quotation truth have the same value when used as symbolical representations of red [red] [red] Red needs to be red, otherwhise it wouldn't be called red [red] [red] I thought you were pointing out some stupid ambiguity in the phrase, but it was just this, and now I'm disappointed [red] [blue] By the way that guy above us probably never even played Umineko, which enrages me even more with his pretty much possible implicit statement [blue] [red] We both are being immature for offending each other like this, especially while in the same side [red]
I love this visual novel but hate you who only copy what you see instead of being aspired from the whole magnificent tale that the whole work of art gives you. Jesus
Beatrice: So, Bern. What did you think of my murder mystery game?
Bernkastel: Too much mystery, not enough murder.
この曲ほんとすき
Words simply cannot explain my undying love for this song. It shall be played at my funeral, birthdays and wedding.
この曲聴きながら綾辻行人の「暗黒館の殺人」読むのがやべえんだ。てかこれうに氏の曲なんか。すげえや。
This music makes me feel like dancing with one of the goat butlers in umineko for some reason .. ^_^
I'm sure Goat-kun would appreciate that.
あひゃひゃひゃひゃッあぁヒャっひゃひゃ！
どうしたのぉ～？ｸｽｸｽｸｽ
i only noticed than that bgm have the same sounding as くるり
But she did say that just because magic doesn't exist for her, it couldn't exist for others; she has figured out the true nature of magic, and thus she knows that it's not non-existent; however, it's because she knows this that her denial of witches is so powerful; she can defeat them without needing to "disprove magic." Episode 5 confirms this; it's not that magic is a lie, it's just that it's not the reason-defying force we're lead to think it is.
For when you can't get enough brass, or you simply feel like laughing maniacally at that random stranger you just passed.
It also sounds a lot like a couple themes from kingdom hearts, but the similar tunes may just be a attributed to the fact that this a is a sort of common ish melody.
I have no idea why but I feel that this goes with a demented circus.
@Schinak for what i have understood it's not like "magic do not exist" it is more "magic do not exist in this specific fragment"
Love Evatrice songs
Damn this is a good song ~ Why I always get hooked to "ballroom music" like this? :'D
Grand!!
Not only that, but only the scenes on Rokkenjima of 1986 are technically, actually, contestable, because it's a Schroedinger's Box.
it reminds me of beato and the rest of the witches just drinking tea and laughing .... alot.. .xDD
"Ah, but according to Ange, it MUST exist."
What do you mean? Nothing happened in 1998 that couldn't have happened non-magically.
*Dances with one of the Goat-kuns* XD
evil carnival music hehe
うみねこ :3
*giggle*giggle*
Great music!!
This sound was composed before harry potter 8 was released. :)
Your comment was written before I discovered anime and Umineko existence
luv it!!!!!!!
for some reson i feel like screamin ITS TROLLING TIME *cackle cackle*
Nice music:)
Surprisingly not Castlevania OST
2018 sends its regards.
*Drops cake on the mansion*
@Hauuauuauuu or maybe it is because magic both exits and do not at the same time.
it´s a great song. :')
That Abridged Series I referenced wasn't too bad.
DELICIOUS MUSIC OMNOMNOMNOM
@HanakoFujita LOL THAT MADE MY DAY XD
schrodinger's cat theory
Endgame results are there only to help you easily recall who died how in each of episodes. It gets pretty hard after a while, especially with 6 on first twilight.
It reflects how it appears in game, and it's not guaranteed to be true. Actually if it was it would probably give out real culprit, be it a witch or a human. So we couldn't be neither pro-mystery nor anti-mystery, right? :) And I'm pro-mystery myself :D
@BakaMizi U2 Akiyama composed this song and the music for the touhou fighters and Tasofro's other touhou fangames.
Song reminds me of Castlevania for some reason.
That is exactly my belief as well. I mean look at the whole oyashiro sama incident in Higurashi. Oyashiro sama did exist in the form of Hanyu however she was in no way responsible for the murders it was all humans. So Magic in umineko can be the same thing. A scapegoat and a veil over what is really going on.
Besides if there was no magic there would be no Kakera and no Bern or Lambda XP
Yes, the Google translator said Liliana Black.
Ah, but according to Ange, it MUST exist. The only real absolute is that it's not responsible for the events of Rokkenjima.
@OchaKai Whoa...That makes sense o_o
Frikin' Eva and her black liliana -_-
@OchaKai That's Eva Beatrice for you.
@shionthedemon2345 Her calm leitmotif.
This has to be the only answer. Otherwise, the only explanation for all of the meta-world would have to be 'dreams' 'hallucinations' or something like that. That'd be, frankly, an insult to the readers.
Regarding the events of the 'Future' Ange, it's believed that she, indeed, was killed by Kasumi during her visit to Rokkenjima.
This music reminds me Touhou themes composed by Twilight Frontier (IaMP, SWR, UNL etc.).
didn't beato outlaw that right at the beginning? "because it would result in a stalemate".
of course we all know that's part of her game. the real reason is because magic doesn't exist c;
@OchaKai The description sounds 'Bern-ish'.
JOJI Beatriche !!!!
@MarilleChan This is actually Bernkastel's theme, don'tcha know?
What the hell is this song's name? I was searching this like crazy, and there it's why was so hard to find.
Black Lilliana
What is this called in english? Liliana?
Regarding your doubt about the endgame results, I think that they're pretty much absolute (fake info would be a cheap shot) but, like the red truth, it can be deceiving.
Think about this: Kinzo, as stated in the third or fourth chapter, is a title, not a name.
@Konataismywiferofl never read episode 5? multiple truths can co-existh without canceling out each other
i need this song,where i can found mp3?
I'm a wannabe witch 8D
Love the background! Where did you find it?
12 years latter I am asking the same question
waltz?
キンコーン
plants vs zombies...
Not sure what are you implying, but just to be sure, i'm saying this in red:
"Umineko came in 2007 with this music on the BGM"
***** "Black truth is not a substitute for the red truth at all, it doesn't even make sense. Both quotations and black are mere representations of it"
[red] Writing like this is probably the most accurate way [red]
[red] In any case, both black truth and quotation truth have the same value when used as symbolical representations of red [red]
[red] Red needs to be red, otherwhise it wouldn't be called red [red]
[red] I thought you were pointing out some stupid ambiguity in the phrase, but it was just this, and now I'm disappointed [red]
[blue] By the way that guy above us probably never even played Umineko, which enrages me even more with his pretty much possible implicit statement [blue]
[red] We both are being immature for offending each other like this, especially while in the same side [red]
I love this visual novel but hate you who only copy what you see instead of being aspired from the whole magnificent tale that the whole work of art gives you. Jesus
Is it just me, or does this sound A LOT like the kind of theme for the witches at Hogwarts in Harry Potter? 8I
Something wrong with her lips
akiko shikata version is better
Grab a corpse and it's a Corpse Party xD
(sorry, it's a good game..)
then explain why beatice just didn't say
"magic exists"in red letters and pwn battler right from the start and watch him as he goes insane lol.
just make sure you dont die/get toruted/go insane/become furniture.
lol
i know right!