Why INTJs Don't Conform
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Rebels. Society has had an obsession with them throughout history. Whether it’s a character in a movie, a historical figure, or a modern-day entrepreneur, most of us are fascinated by those who refuse to conform.
Chances are, many of these people are the Myers-Briggs type INTJ, known as ‘The Architect’ or ‘The Mastermind.’ Logical and strategic in how they approach the world, INTJs have high expectations for themselves and rarely feel the need to fit in.
Today on Charisma we’re going to look at the 10 Reasons Why INTJs Don’t Conform.
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true indeed
Amen! 😎👍
It would be awesome to see you do a video on why INTJs and ENFPs make great matches. :) Either way, great video! Thanks for your contribution.
@@natemedina215 Thanks! Will consider this
Not quite.
As an INTJ myself, I approve this! With the only exception of "the kid always questioning the teacher". It is true that we question a lot, but since we're introverts, we do it mostly only in our heads, without expressing it. We do it so to avoid creating an unecessary situation.
Makes sense!
100% feel this....especially after being raised by two military parents....lol
I think this maybe depends on the kid. I often questioned teachers particularly when they didn’t explain the logic behind something and even had a teacher tell me I had no respect for authority. I think I was very confident in my own abilities and happy to support my arguments logically. I also think my son may be INTJ as he challenged his teachers from an early age but not in an aggressive way more inquisitive, although some found it annoying 😂
I definitely did it out loud and this led to bullying and teachers at times taking sides against me when other students attempted to bully Me, so I became a fighter and didn’t believe in backing down to anyone
I do believe you’re projecting a little, I had zero hesitation asking but couldn’t understand the ridicule I’d receive for the act of asking.
INTJ's are condemned to a life of loneliness. Even with people in your life. You will understand things that others never will. And you have the ability to accept certain harsh truths about life in general that others do not. You have to accept that speaking what's on your mind will result in other people either becoming angry with you, thinking you're stupid, or thinking you're crazy. You may know certain truths about life and human nature, though you have to keep them all a secret. If you want to have romantic relationships, then you must pretend to be normal, especially if you're a man. I cope by barring myself in books to hear others comment on similar ideas and beliefs as my own, to remind myself that I'm not the only person in the world who sees things for what they actually are. To feel like I'm not crazy.
On a side note, I don't put absolute validity in these personality tests. Though I do think they can be useful.
@@jaythenihilist4689 Lots of valid points made
@@jaythenihilist4689 "then you must pretend to be normal, especially if you're a man."
Too hard for a tertiary Fi user. Eventually this pretension will show up in the relationship and your partner will either accept or hate who you are. Is there anyone who's willing to take the weird and craziness we have? I heard ENFP are a high percentage in women so there are more options I guess?
Definitely on the loneliness. I have this ability to make and understand fine distinctions that seem glaringly obvious to me but which escape normal people, even with repeated explanations.
I agree, but now I don't pretend to be "normal", I joke about being "limited edition", and even have said that "I've never been so insulted in my life!" when someone calls me "normal".
as INTJ-A What frustrates me the most is being led by stupid leader 😭
Whats The A???
Yes!!! Same here. INTJ-A 8w7
Yes!!! Same here. INTJ-A 8w7
@@johnpinheiro6211Assertive.
Absolutely. There is no faster way for me to lose any and all respect and trust I could have in a leader than for me to question how smart and able to lead they really are.
I’m INTJ. I need to see the reason first before someone asks me to conform. If the explanation makes sense, is logical, and is relatable, I don’t mind doing it.
Sometimes I think INTJ's (like me) don't so much refuse to conform, but fail to see a reason to. When I ask why I should conform, 99% of the time I get a response completely unrelated to my question.
Very accurate.
Perhaps you’re asking the wrong person. You can correct your mistake by asking yourself that very question. You could also ask yourself why conformity exists in the first place.
@@johntravers2321not.
Yeah, I agree. I don't think INTJs go out of their way to avoid conformity and seek independence. They are perceived that way because of their thought process and actions. This video annoys me because it makes it sound like INTJs do everything to be different. In reality, they are not deliberately trying to stand out; it's just the way they are perceived. Yes, I am INTJ-A
@@johntravers2321You're assuming he's asking the wrong question with no evidence. You're trying to deflect his point, and appealing to popularity/majority, since that's a key component in conformity, implying it's the right choice or that it shouldn't be questioned. You're stupid.
“INTJs are impatient” was starting to fast forward thinking how I could have read all this faster. 😂
I would call it efficiency. I'm infinitely patient, sometimes to my own detriment, when need be.
This sounds cool but it sucks. You're stuck in a perpetual state of frustration and dissatisfaction with life.
-INTJ
Great comment and it is cool. To make it suck less, it’s best to also be aware to not stay anchored in the characteristics mentioned in the video. Something I’m trying to deal with right now.
- Fellow INTJ
Life is what you make it
Use Te
I disagree. I never wanted to conform and be like everyone else. I relish being different and being an independent thinker. I feel disdain for the mindless sheep among us who can't think for themselves.
My advice…. get out in the real world and find something you love to do in it! Positive Extroverted Sensing (SE).
Simple. We are smarter than everyone else, especially the people who make a bunch of stupid rules.
This is spot on! Always felt alone and being alone is peaceful! 😌 it’s not that we don’t agree with people in authority out of spite it’s because we can see through the BS either in them or the system they created.
This was well said
INTJ's we need to unite 💪
No that would be all bad there's a reason there's so few of us
@@ebtv7663 😈 my point exactly
I believe in balance honesty, like completing a successful project requires different people
we will unite separately and quietly but in solidarity
@@MySiamesedreams I guess 😮💨
Why would I want to be like everyone else?
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I usually get frustrated when I ask one question and get an answer for a completely different question, I have to resist the urge to say "RTFQ!" (Read the question!), or when they read between the lines of a self explanatory statement and get confused. I question things when they seem non-sensical or inneffeciant and get abuse or blank stares.
"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
- Gautama Buddha
I agree. I always test & re-test from every angle available
I'm definitely a intj I like my alone time don't like huge crowds ❤❤❤❤
As an INTJ, I used to find it hard to not conform, since I was dealing with a lot of social anxiety at the time. But sometimes even though I didn't talk much, or at all even, I would find a way to be a non-conformist. Probably when I thought no one was noticing me anyways. I just never had that high ambition to achieve, or well I'm just an INTJ with not much confidence to put it mildly. Even after that time, if you ran into me I probably wouldn't say anything to you unless you said something first. Just a quiet INTJ here, that's all.
Its not that I don't conform...Its that I can't. Big difference.
That’s most likely autism. Don’t confuse yourself with personality tropes if that’s the case.
Simply cannot. My autocracy simply won’t allow it.
It clearly didn’t stop you from conforming to INTJ UA-cam traits.
@johntravers2321 Good point. I guess I am a conformist after all.
Major frustration pivot is PEOPLE!!! Cut them OFF, & I'm fine...🖤
turbulent?
@@bigpiipe3206 No. I don't deal with "people"....I deal with logic...& Ppl are wholly ILLOGICAL.🖤
INTJs keep your bodies healthy, find love especially with an introvert as they’re most understanding, we need all your smart brains for the good of the human race, think positively
Good points
Despite the existence of INTJ's, humanity always repeats the cycle of "improvement" and inevitable civilizational decay, proving its stupidity and worthlessness as a species.
Also, "love" is conditional and a mere neurochemical reaction.
"we need all you smart brains..." REDFLAG. ZOMBIE DETECTED
1) Independence. I agree with your general sentiment here, but you just also said we don't conform out of fear of mediocrity. And that we will be the dissenting voice just for attention.
And no. We dissent because either we believe in our dissent or we believe that people should plan for dissent to ensure success, and we don't fear mediocrity if we conform on things. A broken clock is still right twice a day. Sometimes society and conformity makes sense. We just don't conform unless we're convinced it's a good plan.
INJT + Procrastination = Internal Meltdown
Because we can do better and we will.
And that is why I lost my job again.
I corrected my teacher once in a history lesson as well. Everyone got quiet, but he did take it to appreciation. I know more when it comes to the depth of history, or could generate a more pragmatic answer for the subject.
The thing is most people don't understand, lol.... they think we crazy
Just because your the boss doesn't mean i have to respect you. You have to prove you know how to do the job before that happens. Most bosses don't have a clue on what they are doing, so i don't respect 98 percent of the higher ups i come across.
They were selected for the position, not you. Their position also requires more hours, requires working off the clock with scheduling, hiring, and responding to calls/texts, and demands a set of skills us INTJs completely lack. You don’t have to respect anybody, but you sure as hell better pretend to if you suck ass at checking your ego.
Me too I hate hierarchy
I disagree with the not wanting others opinions as it’s a vital source of information
It's a matter of probability. What are the odds that the way the herd happens to do things the best possible way? Slim to none. And I will ALWAYS do things the best way I can.
6 months later : 11. Because frick YOU, that's why.
I have a sheep-wolf-sheepdog kind of view of the world. Sheep are the masses, wolves are the predators concerned only with self-interest, and sheepdog are the few who can see through the mess and understand what the hell's going on and see a solution through it.
@@CCharles0519 Eh. I used to think like that, and functionally I still do in many ways. But I am losing my belief in abstractions like "the masses" or "most people" or "the average person". These are just words we use to cover up tjhe truth that the world is full of 8 billion complicated. unreasonable. unwise, and unpredictable people *just like you*
@TheComedyGeek I suppose I cannot put all the blame on the 'masses', because after all its in our nature as social creatures, though I hope you can see my point. They are like fields of grass bending to the wind, amongst which the occasional rock buried firmly in the ground can be found.
I must also admit that INTJs, especially young ones, tend to have a superiority complex. Most people will avoid or even harrass a 'raw' INTJ, that is, those who don't put on a social 'mask', thus the vast majority of people tend to hold them in contempt or fear. This will make the 'raw' INTJ come to a crossroad. If others have such strong opinions of them, they must be different, and that must mean they are either extremely good, or bad, as a person, because they dont 'fit in', just like a rock will never look like the blades of grass around it. And since the INTJ apparently has a predisposition to perfectionism, they will perform especially well in their fields of interest. These two factors combined will naturally lead many or most INTJs to draw the conclusion that they don't 'fit in' because they are better than others. I will freely admit that I also have sense of superiority at times, having tested as INTJ multiple times in a row. I know this assumption is not ill founded and is at least partially truthful, but I still try to be careful with going overboard with it.
@TheComedyGeek You get my point though. Think of a field of grass, the grass bows to the whims of the wind, but among the blades of grass, the odd rock, buried firmly in the ground, can be found. The rock is not so easily swayed by the weather.
I suppose this type of mentality exists for good reason. When an INTJ inevitably realises that they don't fit in, they will come to the conclusion that they must be too good or too bad, as a person, to fit in. Now when they also consider that they almost always excel in their fields of interest, or at least, seem to excel compared to others, they will naturally draw the conclusion that they don't fit in because they are better. And while this sounds arrogant on the surface, it's not an ill founded assumption. When you combine these two factors you can see how an INTJ draws such a conclusion. Admittedly, sometimes I go overboard with it too.
This was very accurate.
100% on Point!!!!!!🎯🎯🎯💯💯🎯🎯🎯
Good💯
I bumped into a woman, I had as teacher 50 years ago. I didn't remember her but she remembered me because I was the one correcting her in class.
I relate to most of these, but not questioning authority per se. I needed my teachers to like me and if something seemed contrary to my way of thinking I might raise my hand but would be too intimidated to argue (although to some people apparently questioning = arguing). Similarly in the workplace I would assume that a boss or supervisor knew better than I by virtue of experience (which they sometimes felt the need to point out), although I would get frustrated when my methods were nixed or truncated. I did argue with my dad a lot as his rules would seem arbitrary and nonsensical.
As for impatience, I'm typically impatient with other people's impatience if anything. Things take as long as they take to be done correctly, *period*; and skipping steps or getting mad at any perceived "slowness" is short-sighted and lazy. And research isn't so much a matter of curiosity as necessity. Decisions can be made ONLY after all the pertinent information has been collected and all of the options reviewed, and individual facts make no sense without a context (i.e., a big picture) in which to place them.
Lots of valid points.
@mindscopechannel Well I've since found that I'm more likely an INTP so I'm not sure how well the above applies now.
@@tval3183 Everything still applies, but INTJ's definitely question authority, and even buck it when it becomes oppressive.
You guys are lucky...
Try being FEMALE & go down that list of yours again...
I will always be the hingepin of the discord around me: I have never & will never "conform" to the "expectations" of anyone but myself... No one has ever been able to keep up w/me... & that's fine so long as they stay clear of my trajectories... Total VULCAN.🖤
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the way you are. 🤔🙂
A society where individual quality and excellence are punished. A society where deceitfulness and inefficiency are overlooked or even rewarded. What a world we live in. But if staying true to myself means going against the masses, then so be it.
@@CCharles0519 Ditto!!!😁
@@catherinerhea6336Not sure if this is the case for you as well, but growing up, I began to adopt a sheep-wolf-sheepdog worldview.
Sheep are like the blades of grass bending to the wind. They know no better than mediocrity and conformity. And if that means being a degenerate, then they will happily do so.
I think you can probably guess what kind of person the wolf is.
Then you have the sheepdog. Sheep hate them because they're a constant reminder that wolves exist. Because they have some of the wolf in them. Monsters they are, but they are controlled monsters.
I hope you understood what I'm trying to get at here.
@@CCharles0519...as stated previously, I will always be the hinge pin of discord around me: I conform to no one but myself, & I don't care what title or position anyone has....
Referring to your "sheep/wolf" analogy, hands down I am a LONE WOLF....when necessary, I know where other Lone Wolves are: we assist each other when necessary (like pinning down a dirty cop, exposing local government corruption...) But understand that I'm fully capable of standing my ground on my OWN, & have done it for decades. Since I'm not in any way addicted to approval, it also doesn't phase me if someone decides to take offense at something I say or do; my stance is "Defend your position, because I CAN defend mine."
...I trust this has contained the answer you were seeking.🖤
Conforming means to be controlled. I like my freedom.
I mean...As an INTJ i'm not very found of going straight up against people on the top bc it would just get me in trouble. I'm more on the side of being annoying to them to the point they just leave me alone.
Does this count as non conforming?
I tested out as an INTJ, and found that I show many of the traits described. The only behavior I found different in myself is that I don’t really feel the need to argue my case unless pushed or cornered. Arguing with others was generally pointless as they usually didn’t think things through or developed their concepts on wealth foundations. I found it easier to let people go their chosen way.
I don't avoid conforming because I think it's lame. I don't conform if I don't agree with it.
I'm only 2.5 minutes in, and I have to say, the narrator sounds like they're saying INTJs don't conform because it isn't aesthetically pleasing to them or something. In my experience, I don't tend to conform if I don't agree that whatever we're supposed to conform to- makes any sense. If I don't agree with it, I dislike having to pretend and go along with things. I'll vocalize as much, if I feel passionately about it... however, if I agree with it- like queuing up in line for something, then I will certainly confirm because I agree with the system or method serving the purpose it's meant to serve.
Wrong.
Love this ❤
Man this is so me! I used to say as a child, I don’t lie, bc to do so would say you’re important enough to do that for and no one is worth that energy!! lol 😂 also at work I wFH 1x day a week but my peer has 2 days… like wtf!!! If it’s fair I don’t mind but if it’s arbitrary well… you know what that means, time to look elsewhere
Me as a kid: why?
My mom: because I said so 😂😂😂😂😂
Approved!
intj rule: never conform to stupidity. i was kicked out of my christian school because i refused to bend down to some of the rules. actual examples: teacher giving us personal email to talk about "moods between the classmates", literally pulling students to the office and telling them to spy on others, hounding on students for their appearance outside of school and in their free time, judging students for the music they listen to (aka if you're listening to rock/metal means you're a bad person).
i was very vocal about my dislike for those rules. needless to say, i was hated by almost all teachers and even though there was no legal grounds to - i was demanded to leave the school or i'd be failed. my grades were way above average so there was no way this was anything but malice. they ended up lowering my final grades so much, my mom couldn't find another school. i was accepted elsewhere but teachers thought i was a dumbass due to my school certificate until i showed them the chart of my grades from that schoolyear (signed by the teachers themselves, mind you). my new teachers were in complete disbelief at what my previous school had done. i could've gone after them legally but i was exhausted from that whole mess and had an exam to focus on. it was worth it bc i scored second best at the entire school despite it all.
A lot of so-called Christian schools teach judgment, bigotry, and hate. It is good that you stand up for your conviction and were not manipulated into submission. Good for you! I would do exactly the same
This is why religions like Christianity negatively affect the world, or atleast one of the many reasons.
Psych professor calls for a show of hands on B&M test results: Calls out “INTJ”: You’re the only one in the class of 50 to raise your hand, and you don’t mind. Even when the Prof says, “So, we’ve even got one of those!”. 😂
I am very INTJ
The 'I' stands for 'Introverted version of the dominant cognitive function'. In the case of an INTJ, it means that the person's greatest strength is introverted intuition. Introverted intuition develops strong, confident beliefs and ideas about how the world should be or how it will be in the future, then compares that to everything the person sees, hears, touches etc. What matters most to them comes from within, from the subconscious world of dreams and imagination. When they decide to act, it is after careful consideration. Then, they strive to take something from their imagination and strive to make it tangible in some way.
By contrast, an ENFP and ENTP's greatest strength is extroverted intuition. They focus on the outside world and look for meaning from their experiences that they then internalize to form a belief or opinion. They still easily find patterns, trends and can predict outcomes but the information they use to do so comes mostly from what they see, hear, feel, etc. rather than from their own imagination.
It has very little to do with whether or not the person enjoys being around other people, but rather to do with what the main focus of the person is when they are trying to figure things out.
I've done the test a few times, sometimes i it leads to intj sometimes infj, and it seems I related to one or the other at different times or some of one in combination of some in the other
Oyo thats good to know. Yeh what I know is that there is very rarely such thing as possessing 1 type of any personality absolutely. Like noone is completely extroverted or introverted. There will be a majority/minority. Its normal to share traits with the neighbouring type and assume the personality trait intermittently. Same as some mental disorders.
This literally mirror's my character. I solved many ' unsolvable ' problems in the Health care field because I was given complete autonomy. No one to wreck my ideas or approach. I brought in close to a Million dollars over 6 month's because I didnt listen to the idiot's around me. Interesting.... Lot's of ' I's " there....maybe it's just ego.
Researching! YES!
I don't agree with the need to know why. If there's a process I just need to follow the steps, I can figure out why later. Or suggest changes later. Think I lost a job once saying that out loud at an interview. :)
I've always been a Leader, & never a follower. If everyone else is doing it, I won't be. My Parents always told my Siblings & I while growing up, " If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking".
So we are basically Vulcans lol
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I would not call myself a rebel or rulebreaker, I am way too professionel / diplomatic for that. But I do question things all the time and I truly only want to conform to things that make sense to me. Most things don`t make sense to me though...
Ugh so many videos get this wrong. It's not about control. Its not about not being 'mediocre'. It isn't even about "success". INTJ's are about doing it right. If your system or rule or community worked, you wouldn't need me in the first place. You want us to help, then let us fix it instead of just walking in the footsteps of failure.
All these facets can always be expressed maturely or immaturely, they have nothing to do with your nature or design, only with your personal choice of self-expression
@@pragMASTROwhat a bunch of gibberish. Who cares how mature it is expressed? The person listening, that’s who. The intj doesn’t give a shit how turned off you are by the delivery of truth.
You don't seem to get it and thats ok :)
PERFECT!!!!!!!
I’m showing this video to my boss
This is way too accurate 😭
This is so accurate. But not only do INTJs read ahead in class, sometimes we end up teaching the material from the back of the room because we understand it better than the teacher, and then the teacher rewards us with an automatic A in the class, no final exam necessary. 😂
I was quite bored in school, I was always drawing pictures, always completed my maths book in a day or two, and always questioned the teacher. On third grade I asked why we weren't studying anything interesting like electromagnetics I had just learned about in a science book.
Whenever I walk into a building or office, if it is clean, then I presume that the janitor is the most useful and diligent person there.
From the mail worker to the CEO, they’d have to prove to me that they are more useful than the janitor…any single person’s title or description is useless to me otherwise.
You were talking about me, except I'm not an introvert
Then they're not talking about you.
@@lostcat9lives322 Not everyone will meet all qualifications
Don't follow slave morality.
I am willing to meet others half way. The problem is they won't meet me at all.
I am curious how many INTJs conformed to the safe and effective?
Conforming would mean accepting and tolerating a whole bunch of stupidity.
💯 all the way, wow
Lincoln was an INTP.
As well as being the worst president in American history.
I’m a patient INTJ
Visionary and curious, intjs skew to logic, autonomy and efficiency to avoid mediocre underachievement. Yet as rebellious and detached loners, to authority they may come off as overconfident, impatient and arrogant hence a disruptive and defiant threat.
Ask the boss why something is a rule. Answer, because corporate says so. Hate that so much
I thought that in west a default for a hierarchical structure is competence, not power. What do I know, tyranny is everywhere.
1:59 success
Several people I know have called me nihlistic, due to not caring about certain things. This isn’t the truth. Its mainly just the fact that I see different things worth more, then the typical things.
That's not how you use an apostrophe.
I am an expert in the use of apostrophe's.
@@etiennedevignolles7538 ;-)
Purrrrrrffect!
:)
okay but to analyze an mbti type in a correct way you need to analyze their cognitive functions not only the 4 letters
"Mor-Tal-UP!"
I will never ever conform. -ENTP
We have a better way....🤷♀
Why do you always take your path?? Because I'm an INTJ and you can't help it and don't even think about it
If you don't think about it, you're not INTJ.
@@blackswan1983 true
Superhero = Dr. Strange, Iron Man maybe Captain America.
Come to papa
- entj
Non Serviam
I will not serve
I don't believe everything I hear ...on UA-cam. The video states a bunch of *facts * but doesn't back it up with analysis. Wha6 makes INTJ rebels stand out from those of other types? NiTeFiSe? The interplay of cognitive functions would be some indicator.
Guys if you believe this you're not INTJs 😂, even though you can relate to some traits Myers Briggs is pseudoscience not much more accurate than horoscope.... personalites are much more complex
kind of contradicting. If you look deeper though you would notice that descriptions of intj fit very well with what's described as schizoid. While ENTJ fits well with narcissistic personality. ENTJ and INTJ have the same cognitive functions, but developed and ordered differently. Narcissism and schizoid is believed (well, researched) is formed by the same structures of the brain with the same problems - emotional deficit and disregulation. But they cope in quite different way with this problem.
Something to think about.
No, it's far from being just a horoscope. It makes much more sense.
Personalities and human psychology is based off of archetypes. You can’t be human without accepting personality tropes and archetypes.
Psychology itself is a pseudoscience that can't even replicate over half of its studies.
Yes, I always knew this was a big lie.
This horribly made video makes me realise how little people really know of intj's.
I have about 4 strong objections per minute of this video criticising the narrator's ability, understanding of the topic and intelligence in general.
*understanding of the topic and of intelligence in general.
to call someone a CEO or Barrista is also the act of a conformist. Stop giving ppl an identity that is merely temporary.
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what's so funny?@@Wasp239
That’s not what conformist means. Do your due research and try again.
You can talk to nobody on the internet for #1
Intj. Not lonely
Know Jesus know peace.
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