When The FIA RUINED Qualifying

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  • @hallo0hoi
    @hallo0hoi Рік тому +381

    So this plan worked for like 18 whole minutes? That's not bad by FIA standards 😂

    • @stingerbean1848
      @stingerbean1848 Рік тому +4

      Pretty much yes… 18 minutes followed by… well… nothing

    • @LiftandCoa
      @LiftandCoa 11 місяців тому +3

      Worked twice as long as the Las Vegas GP.

    • @mxchael_0385
      @mxchael_0385 Місяць тому +2

      Which is funny cos the 2 times its been run people agreed it was very entertaining ​@@LiftandCoa

    • @AlanFormula12022
      @AlanFormula12022 28 днів тому

      ​@stingerbean1848or even 1 full qualifying hour.😅

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 Рік тому +68

    The only thing I really remember from the first race of 2016 was Alonso's crash and the fact that the TV guys didn't notice Alonso until one of the replays.

    • @HaraiGoshi345
      @HaraiGoshi345 Рік тому +6

      The only thing that I remember from the 2016 Australian GP was that Gene Haas actually attended the race

    • @sharathnathan6339
      @sharathnathan6339 Рік тому +1

      In fairness the car was really smashed up so it was impossible to tell who it was until he climbed out of the car

    • @davidsaintcyr3384
      @davidsaintcyr3384 Рік тому +1

      Hell of a shunt Alonso made that Aussie GP, one of the most dazzling of the modern era, it must be said.

    • @AlanFormula12022
      @AlanFormula12022 28 днів тому

      ​@@HaraiGoshi345and also Kvyat attending 2021 British GP.😅

  • @EelooYT
    @EelooYT Рік тому +53

    I'm glad Will is still uploading, I can see why they attempted this format as in theory it would provide more excitement but it just didn't work out the way they wanted it.

  • @TheSt1092
    @TheSt1092 Рік тому +36

    What's not actually known is this idea kind of already happened . In the early rounds of 2006 when the 3 part qualifying start . However in Q1 and. Q2 drivers had to complete their lap before the timer hit zero ( if they didn't they lap would be disallowed). even if drivers had started their lap before the clock hit zero seconds. However drivers and team compalined so from the 2006 French Grand Prix all timed laps in all qualifying segments started before the chequered flag would be valid . Also another bad qualifying format was the the two single lap aggregate time qualifying sessions run in early 2005.

    • @RacingAtHome
      @RacingAtHome Рік тому +1

      On the two-lap qualifying, it's more in reaction to the first qualifying lap being essentially Qualifying Practice. Which was a waste of time. So at least it actually came from somewhere with some reasonable sense. As opposed to this.

    • @mikulitsi1819
      @mikulitsi1819 Рік тому +2

      @@RacingAtHome Tbf until last year's rulebook, F1's rulebook said that Qualifying was Qualifying Practice session. Only last year did they remove the practice word from it. However Qualifying is still counted as one of the practice sessions as is Knockout qualifying. Simply for the rule that a driver needs to do one practice session before they can participate in the race

  • @alanserjeant4947
    @alanserjeant4947 Рік тому +105

    Never has "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" rung so true. 🙂😂🤣

  • @RedmondBarryII
    @RedmondBarryII Рік тому +102

    I quite liked this format, it showed the abilities of the teams to adapt to an unknown situation, not well that was.

    • @nathanb286
      @nathanb286 Рік тому +37

      I hated it. It was just drivers being eliminated whilst in the pits without being able to do anything about it

    • @ilmanti
      @ilmanti Рік тому +9

      ​@@nathanb286 yeah the primary issue was drivers being eliminated every minute so there was not enough time to put a lap in. might as well just call it a day. it sounds exciting on paper, but really it's just what we have now with extra steps and less motivation. at least now, whoever's in the bottom five keeps fighting till the last minute.

  • @kriskay5020
    @kriskay5020 Рік тому +16

    The FIA should adopt the V8 supercar qualifying and let the chaos ensue

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow Рік тому +8

    Personally I prefer IndyCar's road and street qualifying format of splitting the pack in two for two 10 minute Q1 sessions, the top 6 of each being sent to a single Q2 session, and the top 6 being sent to Q3. Gives 40 minutes of on track action with more drivers going all out due to there being fewer moving chicanes in their way and makes it easier to focus on specific drivers sending it.

    • @michaelgideon8944
      @michaelgideon8944 Рік тому +2

      The Indy system works because the cars don't make as much downforce. If they did, Scott Dixon would be complaining even more than he did this year.

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow Рік тому +3

      @@michaelgideon8944 that makes absolutely no sense in any context

    • @michaelgideon8944
      @michaelgideon8944 Рік тому

      @@ZontarDow F1 has knock out qualifying because of aero issues following cars That isn't as much of an issue with Indy with the spec chassis. I do like Indy qually too, but the top drivers would complain about traffic much more if the aero was different.

    • @andrewcarter9649
      @andrewcarter9649 Рік тому +1

      Indycar needs the split because they have a car count in the high 20's on 2 mile tracks, qualy would be a mess without it.

    • @ronbelanger4113
      @ronbelanger4113 Рік тому

      Ha, some lower national series.

  • @brianm5753
    @brianm5753 Рік тому +11

    Went to watch DTS due to the hype and realized it's a show meant for Americans. So now when we make fun of DTS fans we're actually making fun of Americans

  • @AdrianFerrari
    @AdrianFerrari Рік тому +3

    12 laps in 1 hour was the best format. Even 2003-2005 was good, with only 1 lap to do.

  • @joribremer5260
    @joribremer5260 9 місяців тому +7

    I have an Idea… Q1 3 minutes, Q2 2,5 minutes and Q3 2 minutes… Chaos ! 😂

  • @broomwagonracing1234
    @broomwagonracing1234 Рік тому +8

    On the bright side, Sting Ray Robb is back on the Indy grid.

    • @Anon24052
      @Anon24052 Рік тому +4

      (Insert image of George Bush’s reaction to 9/11)

  • @andrewburgess3643
    @andrewburgess3643 Рік тому +2

    I was at the Australian Grand Prix in 2016 and started making my way to the exit after Q2 whilst booing. It was an absolute farce.

  • @slayerman118
    @slayerman118 Рік тому +3

    Oddly enough, this brings me back to how much I enjoy how different Formula E's Duels format is.

  • @merijnfluitman5761
    @merijnfluitman5761 Рік тому +3

    I had so much fun seeing all the teams and drivers struggle to wrap their heads around this format.

  • @ReDJstone
    @ReDJstone Рік тому +2

    Everyone thought the world would end in 2016 and it turns out the apocalypse was closer in 2020...👀

  • @0815ytacc
    @0815ytacc Рік тому +3

    Meanwhile I am patiently waiting for the good old one lap per driver format to come back...

  • @MrSparkefrostie
    @MrSparkefrostie Рік тому +3

    To avoid the traffic issues they could let some auto qualify on certain conditions or do some sort of bop (yeh I know) but the biggest issue I believe is still that one good result can make one driver far higher in the standings than they should be and points should be better distributed, or as this will upset those who only want top 6 to get points, they could do negative points below 10th 🤣

  • @d.o.5238
    @d.o.5238 Місяць тому

    The best Q format was back in the good old days of the real men F1 with two hour-long sessions on two different days (usually, Friday and Saturday), unlimited tires, engines, etc and the best lap time across these two days being taken into account

  • @Timmy22bc
    @Timmy22bc Рік тому +2

    Merry Christmas Will, I’m down for the sprin🤯t qualifying, I actually really like it. F1 should be praised for trying to make changes. I know 2012 was a stand alone season, but as fans, that is the sort of unpredictable action we’d love to see or the fairy tale of 2009. I know people don’t like bringing it up & I don’t particularly like Hamilton or Verstappen, but can you imagine what a let down it would’ve been, if 2021 finished under the safety car. Given how viciously intense that season was, it would’ve been a real anticlimax to finish behind the safety car. 2021 also goes as to why, we shouldn’t have more teams on the grid, if they’re only going to be filled with Latifi type drivers… Changes are needed, maybe even just getting rid of the big 3, would shake it up enough… 🤷‍♂️

  • @GRSZiik
    @GRSZiik Рік тому

    They could do something like Elimination Qualifying for Sprint Races; but it would be 1 session that takes up the whole 45 minutes, hour, however long Sprint Shootout is meant to be.
    And cars are eliminated in 2s or 3s periodically; far enough apart that you can go out and improve, but close enough together to have jeopardy over getting the lap in on your first go.

  • @EricBurns1
    @EricBurns1 Рік тому

    The only thing F1 should change is that the qualifying timing line should be in sector 3 before the pit lane entrance like IndyCar does. This avoids the need for a cooldown laps that lead to tows and blocking. It also gives teams an easy way to stop and get new tires on fast.

  • @connor_cant_game3420
    @connor_cant_game3420 Рік тому +4

    Would you do a comedy review of an old formula E or INDYCAR Race?

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Рік тому

      Formula E's first race at the full Monaco circuit would be a good one

  • @Marko295
    @Marko295 Рік тому +1

    Aggregate qualifying in 2005ish has to be close 2nd. It was confusing seeing time already on the clock when a driver started their lap.

  • @meta7gear
    @meta7gear Місяць тому

    If they want more mix grids and early eliminations then they should do 20 -> 12 -> 6. Usually the cars in 8th-10th have no chance of getting higher up the grid come q3 anyway and we rarely see their lap so I don't think we'd really miss having them in q3

  • @tamtam21020
    @tamtam21020 Місяць тому

    An alternative if they wanted to do the elimination format could have been something like "Slowest drivers eliminated every 3 minutes and all lap time reset each time" that would require everyone to stay on track to not be eliminated .... thats what i though but honestly i love the current qualifying and dont want to change it

  • @julianschernthaner4351
    @julianschernthaner4351 Рік тому

    Elimination qualifying sucked, the only things I'd change about the current qualifying system:
    - Perhaps eliminate an extra driver per session so it's just 8 cars in Q3
    -Award 3/2/1 pts. for the top 3 qualifiers or alternatively 2 pts. for pole.
    Since you mentioned sprints: I think they should move to the 10/8/6/5/4/3/2/1 point distribution normal races had in 2003-09 so there's more battles for the podium (or alternatively a 10/7/6... to reward a sprint winner more).

  • @Yosser70
    @Yosser70 Рік тому

    I think they should move towards how touring cars raced. Multiple races a weekend, reverse grids and handicaps. The BTCC is one of the most exciting race series around, and F1 following their format would be great.

  • @pauls5745
    @pauls5745 11 місяців тому

    I just think it gets crazy for the last runners on timed quali's, so like everyone should get just 5 or maybe 6 laps for each session.

  • @Dani-it5sy
    @Dani-it5sy Місяць тому

    I find it so baffling that they did this. Qualifying is all about those last minutes of every session. Specially Q3 and the fight for the pole is usually decided a minute after the flag drops. That's what you are basically waiting for the entire hour. And then some job student comes along and thinks he is smart...

  • @BotsWeekendCovers
    @BotsWeekendCovers Рік тому

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year man!!!!!

  • @discodavid26
    @discodavid26 Рік тому

    Knew at the time it was going to be a shocker even before that first Q1 as the normal original 3 knockouts system was far , far better improvement on all the old qualifiers systems and far more consistent and should never be messed with the only exception is probably at tracks such as monza and maybe a spa at a push as they have almost oval like amounts off drafting so they alone might benefit from a one a a time single car single shot system like Indy 500 does it so to stop the weird after you style driving! Only question if you did it for monza is if the qualifying time is just a lap on its own or a set distance like Indy’s 4 laps in a row = qualifying time?

    • @andrewcarter9649
      @andrewcarter9649 Рік тому

      Thankfully the current gen of cars seems to have naturally eliminated the qualy nonsense we saw in the years before, combined with lap time requirements for out laps.

  • @formularacer356
    @formularacer356 Рік тому +1

    This was my first full season of watching F1, so this format sticks right in my brain, and I remember it being absolutely TERRIBLE

  • @undergroundbuzz
    @undergroundbuzz Рік тому +1

    I'm glad we got rid of the sprint being the qualifier for the main race

  • @MikkelL03
    @MikkelL03 Рік тому

    Was it k mag raging in the start?

  • @pasztorferenc6741
    @pasztorferenc6741 Рік тому

    Sprint qualifying refers to Sprint's (Saturday) qualy or Sprint races which were called as qualifying in 2021?

  • @spacewalker2676
    @spacewalker2676 Рік тому +4

    My favourite comedy actor is fia

  • @motorsportfanboy7769
    @motorsportfanboy7769 Рік тому

    I remember how on a different channel I made a video rant about it at the time 😂

  • @GamerSpencer
    @GamerSpencer Рік тому

    see, the way I see it is thus:
    Sprint Race (No qualifying for it) grid taken from result of previous race, reversed, or championship order reversed. After the end of each lap, last person is out of the race, thus forcing those at the back, to actually race hard to get through the pack. Then normal qualifying as we have it now, for the race.

  • @jacobmassey3897
    @jacobmassey3897 Рік тому +1

    They've destroyed Qualifying ever since they introduced Sprint format

  • @ralf7823
    @ralf7823 Рік тому

    With the title "When The FIA RUINED Qualifying", i was kind of expecting a much longer video.

  • @mboelts
    @mboelts Рік тому +3

    Sprints can be easily fixed, keep all three test sessions, reverse points start in sprint, after a normal qualifying for the race on saturday.

  • @shawnlegg9636
    @shawnlegg9636 Рік тому

    did anyone ever notice that. Valttar bottas looks like Alan jackson.

  • @andrewcarter9649
    @andrewcarter9649 Рік тому

    Lets be clear, this was another of Bernie Ecclestones crazy ideas that he rushed the teams into agreeing with to get the rules changed before they fully realised how bad of an idea it truly was. Format changes like this are almost always FOM's call and not the FIA's.

  • @laurenmp7486
    @laurenmp7486 Рік тому +1

    The lesson here is, thank god Bernie isn't in charge of anything any more and now we have someone...also incompetent, fantastic.

  • @LiftandCoa
    @LiftandCoa 11 місяців тому

    WHICH time you mean?
    They try it every few years.

  • @danielgoosen591
    @danielgoosen591 9 місяців тому

    I still think the sprint race should set the grid for the race and we have 2 practice sessions

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 Рік тому

    "Not as bad as elimination qualifying" is a pretty easy bar to clear.

  • @randygravel2057
    @randygravel2057 Рік тому

    Has the Indycar season started yet?

  • @AlanFormula12022
    @AlanFormula12022 28 днів тому

    The elimination qualifying in 2016 ruined F1 in general.

  • @DaveyZee72
    @DaveyZee72 9 місяців тому

    A wild idea is that if Perez drops the taco badly again he could be dropped for Lawson. A sink or swim moment for the kiwi given that the cash cow team drivers aren’t really doing enough

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna Місяць тому

      Your prediction seems more likely than ever right now!

  • @thejman3489
    @thejman3489 Рік тому

    Qualifying is one rare instance where the point goes to NASCAR. As gimmicky and manipulated as the race is, somehow they are the only series that still does a fair qualifying session.

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 Рік тому

    I don't get why folks are afraid of having the fastest cars start the race from the front. Isn't that what qualifying is intended to establish? If you want a jumbled-up grid, then just show up on Sunday morning and pull numbers from a hat.

  • @DavidLimofLimReport
    @DavidLimofLimReport Рік тому

    Mehi kirikirimete aka merry Christmas from NZ Will!!!!!

  • @wolfgamingnetwork3542
    @wolfgamingnetwork3542 Рік тому

    Still think single shot works best
    Reverse championship order
    1 lap max attack
    Monaco and others would be amazing

    • @AB-mw8oz
      @AB-mw8oz Місяць тому

      Current system is the fairest. Everyone on track at once means nobody is disadvantaged because of changing temperatures, or conditions including rain

  • @Luchingador
    @Luchingador Місяць тому

    And now they introduced sprint races killing my interest in qualifyng completly

  • @FrosteeWusky
    @FrosteeWusky Рік тому +3

    Here's my take on Sprint qualifying: it shouldn't exist.
    Just reverse the top 10 after normal qualifying like the Junior series does, it's a much simpler way of going about things.

  • @alone3584
    @alone3584 Рік тому +1

    Just saying they should’ve kept the 2022 sprint format

  • @ronantory
    @ronantory Місяць тому

    Im fairly sure this was an idea by f1 themselves, not the fia.

  • @drivingduck2234
    @drivingduck2234 Місяць тому

    Part of me still thinks this format could work if given mote time to teams figure it out,

  • @BLENDITE
    @BLENDITE Рік тому +1

    Time to watch another goat video

  • @CastledCard
    @CastledCard 3 місяці тому

    2016 had some of the worst rules

  • @felix_irgendwas
    @felix_irgendwas Рік тому +3

    As one of the other 10 sprint fans you mentioned, I still don't understand why fans don't want every race week to have a sprint race.
    I know, it a lot of work and stress for drivers, mechanics, teams, etc. - but purely from a fans POV, more sprint races equals more action, and those sprints usually makes for more exiting races than the actual grand prix.

    • @andrewcarter9649
      @andrewcarter9649 Рік тому

      No they don't, it's actually the opposite in that they usually tell you everything about what is going to happen in the GP.

  • @spacemanmonster23
    @spacemanmonster23 Рік тому

    Anyone who says Bernie us a Genius, is crazy... He was off his toss at the end there....

  • @ronbelanger4113
    @ronbelanger4113 Рік тому

    The very old rule of one hour for qualifying worked.

    • @RacingAtHome
      @RacingAtHome Рік тому

      Not really. Most of the hour was spent doing nothing. They had a maximum of 12 laps including in/out so realistically, that's 4 runs. Then most teams wait until the end for the best track situation.

  • @Jasongilliar
    @Jasongilliar Рік тому +1

    We like sprint races because its basicly a Bonus race where iconic stuff could happend. The 2016 qualyfing could maybe worked better if all teams needed to be on track until the end of the session or untill there eliminiated

  • @blakecapon4627
    @blakecapon4627 Рік тому

    classic race review?

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 11 місяців тому

    F1 Elimination Qualifying 🤝 NASCAR Truck Series Caution Clock
    Being absolutely braindead gimmicks

  • @Arsenic71
    @Arsenic71 Рік тому

    Elimination wasn’t that bad and still beats anything Sprint related.

  • @amirviola71
    @amirviola71 Рік тому

    Youre committing to a video per week? Brave man!

  • @Chris-nw6ws
    @Chris-nw6ws Рік тому

    People ragging on DTS is becoming abit pathetic now....
    Oh no a good and successful show has actually helped bring the sport back and got new fans and money in
    Woe is me I wish F1 was still half empty tracks and no one wanted much part of it 🙄🙄🙄

  • @KliqHP
    @KliqHP Рік тому

    really wanted to make it to that 8 minute mark didnt we will

  • @1itim
    @1itim Рік тому

    Sprint weekends suck.

  • @InfernotheFox
    @InfernotheFox Рік тому

    Ah yes... elimination qualifying. Where Q1 and Q2 were okay and Q3 was a wet fart...

  • @frickinfrik
    @frickinfrik Рік тому

    prize giving ceremony comedy review?

  • @Wizzkidwas
    @Wizzkidwas Рік тому

    Oh god elimination quali, fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that

  • @TheF1Gamer2022
    @TheF1Gamer2022 Рік тому

    Can we just keep this format of qualifying but eliminate the fastest driver. Mabye we might actually then have a fight for pole.

  • @Matteo-zd5ew
    @Matteo-zd5ew Рік тому

    Bro knows about One Direction???

  • @VegasD702
    @VegasD702 11 місяців тому

    What are "gare-ages" 😂

  • @TheMcIke
    @TheMcIke Рік тому +1

    I'd like to see Reverse Standings Spring Qualification Race instead... To me, the best driver is one who can drive though the field, not drive away from it each week...
    This would add much more interest to Saturday, while letting Friday and Saturday morning continue to be dedicated to Free Practice. Sprint starting order would be reverse of standings (carried over from the previous year for round 1). Some tiebreaking rules would have to be created for rookies and substitutes...
    Oh, and keep points for the Sprint Race--but only limit it to the top 5 drivers.

  • @robertsklava9667
    @robertsklava9667 Рік тому

    Redo 2021 abudhabi

  • @x_aquatix_x
    @x_aquatix_x Рік тому

    well i dont like the sprint format.
    it doesnt feel like f1 anymore. Tbh f1 hasnt been the same for years now.
    i like the use of the deus ex music btw

  • @kayto101racer
    @kayto101racer Рік тому

    It wasn't the FIA. The teams voted in. This is as bad as people that blamed Bernie for it at the time.

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 Рік тому

    I dunno, on paper it sounded alright, and...then....it actually happene

  • @Watchmedome3017
    @Watchmedome3017 Рік тому

    I’m confused!!!!

  • @kawi704racing
    @kawi704racing Рік тому

    Dude, just watch Moto GP. You will see actual racing.

  • @crouchb15
    @crouchb15 Рік тому +1

    Still the best season in recent history

  • @MartijnMuller
    @MartijnMuller Рік тому +1

    Sprint fans represent!

  • @Martinspire
    @Martinspire Рік тому

    I still believe that the teams deliberately sabotaged the format because it required more tires and more laps to finish qualifying. They could've very well go out and still fight for those laps. The only thing you need to do is go faster. It doesn't matter whether you are next up or not. If you are 3 places up, you can still go out to do the lap to make sure you go ahead. Waiting for the timer to pass and go "well we did nothing but thats all we could do" was just a dumb take to have at the time. There were at least 4 drivers that could've improved their lap time in order to move to q3. But I just think the teams decided they wouldn't want to push further and make sure the format died in Australia.

  • @jtc4119
    @jtc4119 Рік тому

    L FIA

  • @michaelgideon8944
    @michaelgideon8944 Рік тому

    The original sprint version ended much like this system did. Anyone out of the points just turning it down to save engines. If the park ferme rules are revised this year, the sprints might be better. I also like that they are limited in number and rotate around to keep some novelty. I wish they still had a Q3/race tire rule. Then we might see some mixed up grids from people sacrificing to win pole or coming from behind on mediums. The Q2 tire rules just ruined the action. When we have competive cars the knockout shines in Q3. Like Lando says, "Max ruins everything."

    • @andrewcarter9649
      @andrewcarter9649 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately the best we can hope for with sprints this year is reversed top 10 grids. There's a good reason the race on your Q3 tyres rule was dropped, the top teams didn't care but midfield drivers that made it in to the top 10 would find themselves disadvantaged for doing well. Punishing someone because they outqualified their competitors is a terrible idea.

  • @King_Ears
    @King_Ears Рік тому

    I must be in the minority as I liked this format lol the current 3 session format is boring lol. My favourite was the 1 shot quali back in the day. There's no jeopardy and mixed up grids are rare unless it's wet

  • @MattWillPrior
    @MattWillPrior Рік тому

    I personally think having a super pole instead of q3. So essentially a 1 shot quali at the end.

  • @RdeCGaming
    @RdeCGaming Рік тому

    Still better than hrt in formula 1

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy Рік тому

    When the Fia ruined the last laps of Abu Dhabi 21 by purposly creating a 1 lap shootout human error Champion 😂😂😂

  • @MENQN
    @MENQN Рік тому

    When FiA Ruined The 21 Abu Dhabi GP 😂

  • @lobaandrade7172
    @lobaandrade7172 Рік тому

    4:07 cope harder 😂 RB and Max are just better

  • @Cheese-nw9qy
    @Cheese-nw9qy Рік тому

    First

  • @JohnDaubSuperfan369
    @JohnDaubSuperfan369 Місяць тому

    The FIA ruined F1 in 2003 by increasing the amount of points awarded and completely messing up qualifying, the series has not bounced back since despite FIA relentlessly wanking the ruleset back and forth.