Nice, I just ordered some from you Monday. Hope to get it soon. The guys at the shop called me with some questions about my order. Your customer service is excellent.
Didn't realize that Coq de Leon had expanded so much. Thanks! And, I subbed! Heck, I like to mix partridge with standard dry fly hackle, CDL would probably work in much the same way.
Así es amigo, y nada es comparable a una buena pluma auténtica de León ya sea pardo o indio, eso sí se sirve en mazos que no son lo más apropiado para hackle por la longitud de sus fibras, esto lo ha conseguido Whiting Farms y seguro que es una pluma fantástica, pero no mantiene ni el brillo ni las pencas de la pluma original leonesa que encuentra su máxima expresión en las plumas de riñonada. Un saludo 🍻
I love to learn, so I love these videos. CDL surely is beautiful, and I agree that both it and partridge are premo for tying! Thanks Kelly & Jeremy, keep 'em coming!
Brilliant as always! I love this hackle series. Thanks! I can add something to this. If you're into using origami wings for your dry flies, Coq de Leon is a phenomenal choice! The long fibers and thin stems in these feathers are just perfect to use when folding origami wings. The pardo colors are amazing for caddis flies and if you fold and tie in the wings correctly they're super durable and make the most beautiful caddis wings I know. They take some time to master but they're great for fishing flies. So, there you have another, and my favourite, use for Coq de Leon. I love it!
Can confirm, bass love a deceiver or clouser with a tail of cdl saddle. The predator packs are great because veiling colors together looks sexy. I find it hard to make a neat and tidy featherwing streamer using the saddle, slippery feathers, but the trout don’t care if it’s neat.
had a dark pardo hen for a few months now and I’ve been using the less webby stuff for tails on small BWO’s, never thought to look into using it as a sub for steelhead stuff but will definitely be up late tonight at the vise, chrome in the creeks around Lake Erie right now!!!!!
Luis Meana Baaeza published a book, “The Pardon de Meana and the Feather of the Gallo de Leon” in 2007, In the book he shows a number of patterns where he uses the CdL feathers for palmered body hackles, caddis wings and comparadun-style dries in addition to tailing.
Thank you for putting these educational series together. I sure am enjoying them! I bought a old( probably 20 years old) partially used Metz hackle out of a box from a clearance sale a while back. It's a blue dun with some amazing speckling. I am wondering now if it is a CDL? Id never really thought about CDL being anything more than in tailing packs.
Would you say its a great Heron substituut. Second question, would you do a video about wetfly's , what makes a wetfly and how to design your own and what to look out for in de design proces. Thanks! Wesley
Hi, here Marcos from Spain and I want to point some things about Coq de León (CDL as you say), I learn a lot with your explanations Kelly I hope you can understand me, that this is not personal, I just want to clarify some ideas that are incorrects about this type of Roosters: - First, this is a Spanish rooster, no doubt at all. This type of roosters (Pardo, Indio) are from León Province in Spain, this is the province where people take care of this animals and have an Industry around CDL feathers, that they export all over the world, with a well name. - Second, this is not a French bird, as I said, origin of this roosters and hens are in Spain. True is that many anglers from France knows about the benefits of this feathers and probably they were who can spread the idea that this feathers are from France, and sorry one more time, they don't. - Third, what Whiting Farms sells is a great an fantastic product, even on saddles and capes, there are a lot of feathers with similar quality to the original, that's for real, but (and I'm writting a big BUT) in the actually roosters that produce the CDL, breeders only rip a bunch of feathers without kill the rooster, we call it "riñonada", more or less this feathers match with Whiting's Saddles. Rooster never dies in the process and it will produce a lot of feathers during his life. Basically this are my apreciations about this particular topic, I hope this can help everybody. Tight Lines MB
Nice, I just ordered some from you Monday. Hope to get it soon. The guys at the shop called me with some questions about my order. Your customer service is excellent.
Didn't realize that Coq de Leon had expanded so much. Thanks! And, I subbed!
Heck, I like to mix partridge with standard dry fly hackle, CDL would probably work in much the same way.
0:12 Coq de Leon is a Spanish bird, not French. The Province of León, is in Spain.
Así es amigo, y nada es comparable a una buena pluma auténtica de León ya sea pardo o indio, eso sí se sirve en mazos que no son lo más apropiado para hackle por la longitud de sus fibras, esto lo ha conseguido Whiting Farms y seguro que es una pluma fantástica, pero no mantiene ni el brillo ni las pencas de la pluma original leonesa que encuentra su máxima expresión en las plumas de riñonada. Un saludo 🍻
I have never used a better material for tailing flies than Coq De Leon. Beautiful and extremely durable even after catching a few fish.
Here in southern Appalachia, I tie and fish with what I’ve named a seasonal Adam’s. I’ve started using Whiting CDL for my tailing and love it.
I love to learn, so I love these videos. CDL surely is beautiful, and I agree that both it and partridge are premo for tying! Thanks Kelly & Jeremy, keep 'em coming!
Brilliant as always! I love this hackle series. Thanks!
I can add something to this. If you're into using origami wings for your dry flies, Coq de Leon is a phenomenal choice! The long fibers and thin stems in these feathers are just perfect to use when folding origami wings.
The pardo colors are amazing for caddis flies and if you fold and tie in the wings correctly they're super durable and make the most beautiful caddis wings I know.
They take some time to master but they're great for fishing flies.
So, there you have another, and my favourite, use for Coq de Leon. I love it!
I ordered a medium Pardo rooster saddle from you guys and it is so beautiful I wanted to frame it on the wall.
Good stuff Kelly, thanks.
Recommend more videos of Kelly and camera man going fishing. Always enjoy those videos
Can confirm, bass love a deceiver or clouser with a tail of cdl saddle. The predator packs are great because veiling colors together looks sexy. I find it hard to make a neat and tidy featherwing streamer using the saddle, slippery feathers, but the trout don’t care if it’s neat.
had a dark pardo hen for a few months now and I’ve been using the less webby stuff for tails on small BWO’s, never thought to look into using it as a sub for steelhead stuff but will definitely be up late tonight at the vise, chrome in the creeks around Lake Erie right now!!!!!
Thanks so much, I enjoy your insights 👍
Thanks again! Keep em coming
Luis Meana Baaeza published a book, “The Pardon de Meana and the Feather of the Gallo de Leon” in 2007, In the book he shows a number of patterns where he uses the CdL feathers for palmered body hackles, caddis wings and comparadun-style dries in addition to tailing.
Classic Kelly zinger: "...even nowadays..." LOL!!!
3:20 please someone tell me what this fly is!!
Thank you for putting these educational series together. I sure am enjoying them! I bought a old( probably 20 years old) partially used Metz hackle out of a box from a clearance sale a while back. It's a blue dun with some amazing speckling. I am wondering now if it is a CDL? Id never really thought about CDL being anything more than in tailing packs.
"Even now-a-days" made me do a spit take. Great video. Thanks.
Would you say its a great Heron substituut. Second question, would you do a video about wetfly's , what makes a wetfly and how to design your own and what to look out for in de design proces.
Thanks!
Wesley
Great video! I'm sure that fiery ginger is tough to come by.
Anthony, We have 3 left but they won't last long
That was really helpful, thanks.
Thanks for watching
Been using dark pardo as caddis underwings
Hi, here Marcos from Spain and I want to point some things about Coq de León (CDL as you say), I learn a lot with your explanations Kelly I hope you can understand me, that this is not personal, I just want to clarify some ideas that are incorrects about this type of Roosters:
- First, this is a Spanish rooster, no doubt at all. This type of roosters (Pardo, Indio) are from León Province in Spain, this is the province where people take care of this animals and have an Industry around CDL feathers, that they export all over the world, with a well name.
- Second, this is not a French bird, as I said, origin of this roosters and hens are in Spain. True is that many anglers from France knows about the benefits of this feathers and probably they were who can spread the idea that this feathers are from France, and sorry one more time, they don't.
- Third, what Whiting Farms sells is a great an fantastic product, even on saddles and capes, there are a lot of feathers with similar quality to the original, that's for real, but (and I'm writting a big BUT) in the actually roosters that produce the CDL, breeders only rip a bunch of feathers without kill the rooster, we call it "riñonada", more or less this feathers match with Whiting's Saddles.
Rooster never dies in the process and it will produce a lot of feathers during his life.
Basically this are my apreciations about this particular topic, I hope this can help everybody.
Tight Lines
MB
Would the hen cdl work for feather game changers? Or are they not quite webby enough?
When using this for hackle on a wet fly how do you gauge sizing of the feather?
Well have to correct you they are Spanish birds
i think they are spanish birds not french
David,
You are correct about lineage being from Leon, Spain and not from France.
True but, the birds that Tim Whiting initially bought to produce his line of CDL are French birds.
Gallos😂😂
It's a Spanish bird
Don’t Sell .... Tie ....