Are long points better that short?

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  • @chriscampbell9485
    @chriscampbell9485 24 дні тому +3

    Thanks for the shoutout! As soon as they get some shorter points in, I’ll mail them out to you.
    To add to your point, I find that shorter points are darts that are more front loaded work better. The longer points should work better on straight barrels.
    It would be great if you’re able to test that theory out. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

    • @reeceowen1536
      @reeceowen1536 23 дні тому +1

      Hi Chris I’m super interested in these points can you contact me more I Feinstein about them please thank you

    • @chriscampbell9485
      @chriscampbell9485 23 дні тому

      @@reeceowen1536 thanks for the comment! I can put you in touch with the owner of the store. What’s the best way to contact you?

  • @tonytst88
    @tonytst88 23 дні тому +3

    Noticed at the Bahrain masters that gerwyn price has switched to longer points

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  23 дні тому +1

      He is switching back straight away though, he confirmed after the match they didn't work for him.

  • @andrewbelton1571
    @andrewbelton1571 22 дні тому

    After my coaching last year, your advice to me was to go short which at the time was helping me massively, but I then had a 4 month break from darts.... Now I'm using 50mm points and have found my scoring isn't as deadly as it was, more consistent 140s/100s but my doubles are fantastic, especially on the D16s

  • @Charles3rddd
    @Charles3rddd 24 дні тому +2

    That's up to the individual. I recommend trying points of all lengths. There's no static answer here.

  • @IntergalacticApeMan
    @IntergalacticApeMan 24 дні тому +1

    Basically I can confirm what you're saying. For some reason I really like long points on darts with long front tapers like the Whitlock 3 with around 48mm for instance. On the other hand I had 44mm on my MVG darts that looked a little too long to what he was playing, so I asked Vincent and he said 34mm, which actually seemed to make sense when I tried. It's also the shortest point I can use without poking my ring finger, which is one of the main reasons for me to change points. I've tried up to 66mm with mixed results. It's quite easy to throw them and I can even hit 180s, but the way I played them it's more like an elongation of a rather straight barrel as if it were a long front taper with the barrel missing, so anything over 50-55mm was merely overkill with the effect the points slip through the tiniest gap in a group, making it an ugly criss cross with less precision. The only way I ever did a bull hattrick was with a long front taper and a good 40mm protruding, so that's my sweet spot, I guess. When I'm tuned in, I really need very little space in the treble opposed to a straight barrel that doesn't necessarily benefit as much from the long points.

    • @WarrsSnooker
      @WarrsSnooker 23 дні тому

      So doesn’t MVG use a 34mm point then?

    • @IntergalacticApeMan
      @IntergalacticApeMan 23 дні тому

      @@WarrsSnooker To my best knowledge he at least has on his old darts. I'm not sure yet though if he changed for the new darts he plays currently.

  • @ashleystone4266
    @ashleystone4266 23 дні тому

    Great video Daniel. I've been using 34mm points for over a year now and I love them, I get on really well with them. I do say to a lot of people, just like stems/flights, they will either work for you or not. Littler makes it look effortless with the long points and I think he plays with 40mm 👍🏼🎯

  • @theoloonstra9009
    @theoloonstra9009 24 дні тому +3

    Tried 42mm points and quickly returned back to 32mm ones.

  • @noobztvgaming
    @noobztvgaming 24 дні тому

    SWISS storm are my fav shape and grip lovely flush joint and enough grip without damage

  • @rogertruttmann3311
    @rogertruttmann3311 24 дні тому +1

    Good video 👍
    I feel the same way. I have much more trouble getting a nice and consistent throw with long points longer than 32mm out of the barrel..
    And even if people are constantly saying that you can group more tightly (very few hobby players can play this tight 😄) with long ones and that you can see more of the triple field.
    If you're reasonably good, you can also do it with shorter ones 😉

  • @shovedonkey3777
    @shovedonkey3777 10 днів тому

    I was using 40mm EVO points so they’re very quick and easy to change. I switched to 32mm and my scoring was better. Just tried 28mm yesterday and I scored so much better. Could be a fluke but I’ll keep trying them for a week or so to see what happens. I noticed that the 28mm tend to kick up a bit more than the longer points, which I prefer.

  • @TomHeer
    @TomHeer 23 дні тому

    I use very short points. They only are 25 mm and 19 mm sticks out of the barrel. I tried many other points, almost every length. But nothing feels and fly’s that good as the short ones. I can switch pretty good to the 19s. I learn that myself instantly, because with those points. There is more chance that the triple 20 is completely blocked. But if it works it works. I think i don’t need to force myself to change when it really feels that bad.

  • @rkisf90
    @rkisf90 24 дні тому

    Literally trying out 40mm points this week, I’m used to 32mm. One thing I realised instead of aiming for the barrel, I aimed for the flight.

  • @SimonFairbrother-yu9do
    @SimonFairbrother-yu9do 5 днів тому

    Can you do a review on Connor scutt throw please

  • @EskoShorts
    @EskoShorts 24 дні тому

    i have used pretty much all the lengths on my Target Bolide 03s 26gr. So 26 30 35 and 40mm also in that order. I have now used the 40mm ones for a months and they work wonders for me in every aspect. Might also be because I throw thick bombs but I cant recommend them enough if you use a heavier or thicker dart! Only thing is dislike is there are no Storm points that come in 40mm. So my K Flexes are getting damaged more but oh well.

  • @chrislittlewood6811
    @chrislittlewood6811 24 дні тому

    I struggle with longer points as my grip literally touches the end of point, so anything longer just doesn’t feel right.

  • @afaithfulsaying
    @afaithfulsaying 24 дні тому

    My experience with long points was that it just threw the balance off so much, and I don't like adjusting for that with grip or shaft/flight. I prefer standard length because I am so set on my short stems and Steve Beaton oversized pear-shaped-flights, and I can't stand the darts laying in the board flight down with long points on that same set up. I use Target Duzza Gen 1 barrels, and I have a 4 finger grip, so there wasn't many options available to make the long points work for me.

  • @KDBme
    @KDBme 17 днів тому

    I have the issue where I cannot stop my elbow from moving inwards as I release the dart. Is this something that fixes itself with better alignment or do I have to force my elbow to stay out because nothing seems to work?

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  17 днів тому

      Work with your hand eye-coordination, stand the right and keep the elbow pointing under the center of the board :)

  • @fandanvan3867
    @fandanvan3867 5 днів тому

    Hi mate, I am interested in booking some coaching sessions. How much does it cost a session ? I am asking on here as I am not on any social media etc.

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  5 днів тому +1

      Hi, I do have a bit of a wait, but this is the link to my onine services, you can contact me though this website as well :) straight-to-the-point-darts.square.site/

    • @fandanvan3867
      @fandanvan3867 3 дні тому

      @Straightdarts thank you will check it out after work !

  • @Timesend
    @Timesend 22 дні тому

    I’ve tried all types of longer points on all types of barrels and set ups and I absolutely cannot get on with them. I prefer short points still

  • @juleswinnfield6930
    @juleswinnfield6930 24 дні тому

    Those your new darts? I put longer points in my new darts and not quit as good with them but gettting use to them now....

  • @Gitara6060
    @Gitara6060 20 днів тому

    Great video as usual! What darts would you recommend for a rear gripper? I'm considering Target Bolide 01 or 04, Target Exo 02, Target Gabriel Clemens Gen 1, Target Chris Dobey gen 1, Loxley Sorcerer. If you have any other recommendations I'd be more than happy to see them. Thanks!

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  10 днів тому +1

      Out if those id get the Doby darts, but the Bulls Shark is also worth a look at. :)

    • @Gitara6060
      @Gitara6060 10 днів тому

      @@Straightdarts Cheers mate

    • @george2995
      @george2995 8 днів тому +1

      @@Gitara6060 have a look at target japan - Armageddon 2.0 really nice rear gripper dart! Let me know your thoughts 👍🏼

    • @Gitara6060
      @Gitara6060 6 днів тому

      @@george2995 Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @leecusworth1644
    @leecusworth1644 24 дні тому

    I love the longer points shame that now ove had my darts Swiss points converted that there is only 40mm points available I need slightly longer

  • @vaderd4353
    @vaderd4353 24 дні тому +1

    Is it better for the board to pull darts out straight or spin them a bit when collecting?

    • @gonch72
      @gonch72 24 дні тому +1

      I normally give them a little twirl. But I've found with swiss points you can end up loosening them

    • @j.d.1488
      @j.d.1488 24 дні тому

      ​yep a tad of red Locktite helps.

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  24 дні тому

      Spin them :)

    • @markball2048
      @markball2048 19 днів тому +2

      @@gonch72spin them the opposite way 😂

  • @oldgold5848
    @oldgold5848 24 дні тому

    I have some Loxley Nasirs but they come with really short points or so it seems to me, and they lie really flat. I must try some slightly longer points In them

  • @j.d.1488
    @j.d.1488 24 дні тому

    Interesting. They look like minimal damage to sisal.

  • @redric20
    @redric20 24 дні тому

    What are those darts you're using there Daniel?

    • @Straightdarts
      @Straightdarts  24 дні тому +2

      Its an only set I have made years ago, I would have used my rear kickers but they have been swiss converted.

    • @MattyyM
      @MattyyM 24 дні тому

      Is there more rear kickers being released?

    • @michaelgarrett5572
      @michaelgarrett5572 24 дні тому +1

      Them darts look class ,really like the look of the grip.

  • @rickyhine3597
    @rickyhine3597 24 дні тому

    I use darts to cannon off of each other. Longer points dont work for me either.

  • @howdo1govern995
    @howdo1govern995 24 дні тому

    I average easy 10 points average less with longer points. I also struggle with doubles.

  • @edzejandehaan9265
    @edzejandehaan9265 24 дні тому +4

    I think the current point trends are crazy. What's next, barbs? I would be happy if they had made standard smooth 26 mm points regulation to prevent this nonsense.
    (points so textured they rip the sisal out of the board WTF)

    • @leelo4717
      @leelo4717 24 дні тому +5

      They need to fabricate more stuff to try and sell to us. Lol

    • @edzejandehaan9265
      @edzejandehaan9265 24 дні тому +1

      @leelo4717 Good point😉

  • @wrenlfc
    @wrenlfc 23 дні тому

    Simple answer … no