That clip of Adam Jones is both hilarious and ultra impressive. Actually hitting the helmet while being that pissed off in the heat of the moment…legendary.
@@Hatbilly yeah same! Lol I swear I’ve seen 99% of games from the Showalter era and have never seen that. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was from the 2014 ALCS though.
The famous Tony Conigliaro picture was also in Sport magazine, which was a big sports publication back in the 50's through 70's but may not be remembered by younger viewers. I remember seeing this picture while looking through the magazine as a seven year old while waiting for a haircut in a barbershop and it made a great impression on me. I happened to be watching that Mets-Astros game when Dickie Thon got beaned and while he came back & played and had a nice career, he was never completely the same player after. Up to the beaning he was on a Hall of Fame trajectory. The pitcher was Mike Torrez who seemed to be associated with baseball disasters (think Bucky Dent). Not mentioned was the beaning of White Sox infielder Cass Michaels in the early 50's., He nearly died and never played again. That might have been the tipping point for helmets because they started to become mandatory shortly afterwards.
Thanks Hatbilly. I superb enjoy your work. This deep dive into the history of batting helmets was a wonderfully interesting topic. The visual of Dave Parker wearing a hockey mask to the plate was horrifying and awesome. I do not know how I'd never seen that before. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the tip, William! And thanks for reliably interacting with the channel. I had to work for that clip. It originally aired on an episode of This Week in Baseball in 1978, and someone had uploaded it on Twitter, recorded from their TV screen.
I worked with Tony Conigliaro’s nephew many years ago. He told me that when he was 18, he worked at a bar in NYC and Jack Hamilton was there bragging about hitting Tony. He told me he roughed Hamilton up and threw him out of the bar.
Fantastic as usual! A slight correction from a guy who's a bit older than you. It's "Bert" Jones, not Bart. He played in the 70's, so you get a pass. You're mentioning Willie Wells of the Negro League was excellent. Wells is considered perhaps the best SS in Negro Leagues history. Others consider John Henry Lloyd the greatest. He was born 10 or 15 years before Wells. Honus Wagner said it was an honor to be mentioned with Lloyd as the greatest shortstops of their era.
I knew that... I believe it was a Freudian slip, because I was reading about Bart Starr a few days prior. Thanks for correcting that, and appreciating my negro leagues reference. A shame, but players like Wells aren't as well researched, so it gets tricky and time consuming.
I've mispronounced several people's names and places on this channel, but I was born and raised in the mountains, so I nailed that one. 😂 I see you're content guy, too. I haven't had a chance to delve in super deep yet, but if you ever want to collaborate on something, I'm down!
I've always wondered why Brooksies helmet brim was abbreviated. Thanks for this. You know Detroit Tigers star Norm Cash never wore a helmet while batting as he was Grandfathered in and not required to wear one.
They had one of Brooks's sawed off helmets in the Hall of Fame as a display of helmet safety. It was a helmet he was wearing when he was beaned and it had a big crack in it. That was when I visited Cooperstown back in the 70s. Don't know if it's still on display.
Thank you! Glad you liked the brief shift into hockey. I may start exploring more similarities between the two soon. It's wild how witnessing something of that nature sticks with us over the years.
@@Hatbilly The last NHL player to play without a helmet was Craig MacTavish, as late as 1997, 17 years after the helmet rule (with grandfather clause) was instituted. He was, for several years, playing as the only player in the league without a helmet. Just for trivia, the last NFL player to play with a helmet but WITHOUT a face mask was NFL Hall of Famer Tommy McDonald, believe it or not in 1970. Hmmm, MacTavish & McDonald. Stubborn Scottish guys.
That clip of Adam Jones is both hilarious and ultra impressive. Actually hitting the helmet while being that pissed off in the heat of the moment…legendary.
I got so excited when I dug that up. I don't believe I saw that happen live, despite tuning into a majority of games in that era.
@@Hatbilly yeah same! Lol I swear I’ve seen 99% of games from the Showalter era and have never seen that. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was from the 2014 ALCS though.
Very informative video. Thanks
The famous Tony Conigliaro picture was also in Sport magazine, which was a big sports publication back in the 50's through 70's but may not be remembered by younger viewers. I remember seeing this picture while looking through the magazine as a seven year old while waiting for a haircut in a barbershop and it made a great impression on me. I happened to be watching that Mets-Astros game when Dickie Thon got beaned and while he came back & played and had a nice career, he was never completely the same player after. Up to the beaning he was on a Hall of Fame trajectory. The pitcher was Mike Torrez who seemed to be associated with baseball disasters (think Bucky Dent). Not mentioned was the beaning of White Sox infielder Cass Michaels in the early 50's., He nearly died and never played again. That might have been the tipping point for helmets because they started to become mandatory shortly afterwards.
I grew up in Cleveland and I never knew that the black arm band and rain delays originated there.
Great vid as always!
Thanks! I'm proud I was able to dig that stuff up. Did quite a bit of reading on Cleveland baseball, it was fun.
Thank you for your hard work!
You're welcome! Thanks for being a part of the community here.
Helmets ere mandatory for my Little League teams in Maryland, 1967-1970. I enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it! And thank you very much for the context of little league in MD at that time.
great video! who knew a topic about batting helmets could be so interesting. lol
Love the videos. Thanks!
You're welcome. Thanks for the tip! Sometimes I forget that feature exists, and get all excited about it like I did just now. 😂
Thanks Hatbilly. I superb enjoy your work. This deep dive into the history of batting helmets was a wonderfully interesting topic. The visual of Dave Parker wearing a hockey mask to the plate was horrifying and awesome. I do not know how I'd never seen that before. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the tip, William! And thanks for reliably interacting with the channel. I had to work for that clip. It originally aired on an episode of This Week in Baseball in 1978, and someone had uploaded it on Twitter, recorded from their TV screen.
Impressive you were able to dig that up. You put a lot of time and care into your videos and it shows. I'm looking forward to the next one.
By the way, your Orioles are beating up on my Giants right now. Go easy on my boys haha
@@williamrea5193 They made them mad last night, I think!
Always so good!
I worked with Tony Conigliaro’s nephew many years ago. He told me that when he was 18, he worked at a bar in NYC and Jack Hamilton was there bragging about hitting Tony. He told me he roughed Hamilton up and threw him out of the bar.
Fantastic as usual! A slight correction from a guy who's a bit older than you. It's "Bert" Jones, not Bart. He played in the 70's, so you get a pass. You're mentioning Willie Wells of the Negro League was excellent. Wells is considered perhaps the best SS in Negro Leagues history. Others consider John Henry Lloyd the greatest. He was born 10 or 15 years before Wells. Honus Wagner said it was an honor to be mentioned with Lloyd as the greatest shortstops of their era.
I knew that... I believe it was a Freudian slip, because I was reading about Bart Starr a few days prior. Thanks for correcting that, and appreciating my negro leagues reference. A shame, but players like Wells aren't as well researched, so it gets tricky and time consuming.
It was to be expected, but it was quite nice to hear Appalachia pronounced correctly.
I've mispronounced several people's names and places on this channel, but I was born and raised in the mountains, so I nailed that one. 😂 I see you're content guy, too. I haven't had a chance to delve in super deep yet, but if you ever want to collaborate on something, I'm down!
I've always wondered why Brooksies helmet brim was abbreviated. Thanks for this. You know Detroit Tigers star Norm Cash never wore a helmet while batting as he was Grandfathered in and not required to wear one.
I could have easily included Cash here, good point! I'll find a way to work him in on the channel eventually.
They had one of Brooks's sawed off helmets in the Hall of Fame as a display of helmet safety. It was a helmet he was wearing when he was beaned and it had a big crack in it. That was when I visited Cooperstown back in the 70s. Don't know if it's still on display.
It has nothing to do with player safety, but I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention how players use their helmets for pine tar storage.
Good point. I think pine tar could be an entire video of similar length!
Well done sir, as usual. Love the goalie masks reference. Conigliaro was before my time but the Dickie Thon incident is burned into my brain.
Thank you! Glad you liked the brief shift into hockey. I may start exploring more similarities between the two soon. It's wild how witnessing something of that nature sticks with us over the years.
4:59 wasn’t Gordie Howe the last grandfathered-in helmet abstainer? (A literal grandfather by that time, probably.)
That sounds right! Regrettably, I didn't delve as far into the hockey side, but it would have been a great comparison.
@@Hatbilly The last NHL player to play without a helmet was Craig MacTavish, as late as 1997, 17 years after the helmet rule (with grandfather clause) was instituted. He was, for several years, playing as the only player in the league without a helmet. Just for trivia, the last NFL player to play with a helmet but WITHOUT a face mask was NFL Hall of Famer Tommy McDonald, believe it or not in 1970. Hmmm, MacTavish & McDonald. Stubborn Scottish guys.
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