Best workflow tip : use the botom of a 6 cups moka pot with a bit of water in it. Then put the chamber above to preheat with the vapor. I also add the moka filter on top, then my actual espresso cup. Sounds complicated, but in practice it takes 10 seconds to setup, both your cup and chamber will be close to 100°C.
I love my Pro 2. Im a truck driver and always take it with me, and almost every week I take it home. Nice quality. Although I travel a lot would never take it with me on my motorcycle trip or car trip or family vacation
My home espresso journey started with the Flair neo. It's been about a year now and I upgraded the basket to a non pressurized one, added the pressure gauge and bought a commandante. As I'm traveling, it's really nice to have the option to just take it with you. I agree with your point, that the community of flair makes it so easy to get good results. I think this has to do with the price as well. You get a flair for a relatively cheap price, so it's easily accessible for everybody and a lot of people using a machine, will create a group around it. Also Flair as a company offers some nice content on their website, not only about their machine, but about coffee in general. I think I will skip the Pro 2 and my next machine will probably be the 58, because I want the convenience of it, but the other flair will go in travels with me. Great Video, loved hearing your explanation.
I snagged the 58 during their fathers day sale and it has been a massive improvement from my BBP. Whenever i get the urge to upgrade some time in the distant future, it'll have to be a machine with pressure profiling.
When i can afford it, i plan to get into espresso via the flair. It just seems so fun being able to have control over almost every variable of the process. It's like the mechanical transmission of espresso! Also, i kept thinking that swaying plant in the back window is steam or smoke rising😅
I have the flair pro 2 and a commandante grinder for years now. The espresso is fantastic and it takes just about 5 minutes to make one. Of course I am thinking about upgrading, watch all the reviews but in the end I would have to spend at least a thousand bucks or more to get a chance at an improvement and that’s when I know it is the right machine for me. Go for it, you’ll love it.
A bit late to comment but I just discovered your channel. Great content! I did get the basic Flair, and after a ton of failures and discouragement, I upgraded to the Pro kit with the pressure gauge. At that point I was able to make proper coffee. It served a good purpose to teach me the basics of espresso, but the workflow is clunky and time-consuming. The fact that you have to take off the brew chamber to remove the portafilter is a big design flaw, and dealing with boiling hot chunks of metal to reset it gets old. It takes about 10 mins to make a cup of espresso from start to finish, which is a lot of time so I started to avoid it for my daily coffee. I like the manual workflow, but at this point I'd like to upgrade to something more efficient, and I'm staying away from anything that requires manual preheating. The Flair 58 seems like a good upgrade, but the heating mechanism seems like an afterthought. They missed the opportunity to boil the water to a given temperature, instead of just preheating the chamber. I'm leaning towards the meticulous which seems well-thought, but it has the risks of a 1st gen product.
I love my flair pro2, but wish it were easier to disassemble the group head when it's at temperature. I burn easily and find it fairly painful to pull back to back shots on, especially separating the portafilter from the group head.
If you like espresso when camping, maby the picopresso is a good thing? I would love to try it, but nobody is importing it ti Norway, so the price would be doubble if i order it from another country 😩
After 7 years of espresso with semi-automatic machines, I wanted to improve my skills and learn how to operate a manual direct lever machine. So I bought the Flair Pro 2 as a 2nd machine, while I still have my main (pump) machine, the Quickmill Carola. I love the Flair Pro 2, even though obviously the entire workflow is time consuming. But I realize that after some time I will sort out the most effective way to get everything done. For example I already figured out that for me (I'm doing classic italian dark espresso) prefilling the chamber 1x is completely sufficient. I love how it feels to make espresso with this machine. It's really absolutely manual and I can control every little detail with the lever. I can do things like pre-infusion which aren't even possible with the Carola. And it goes way beyond that. On the other hand, the Carola will still be my reliable and quick-and-easy espresso before my morning commute - the flair process is way too complicated for a workday morning...
I have a Linea Mini with a bit lower pressure (usually set to 6-8.5 bar). It makes good spro to be sure. But my Flair definitely makes better spro, at least if you're looking to get clean, clear results. I tried a Robot for the first time the other day. Outstanding shot as well, unsurprisingly.
Most important, you are bang on, does it make a good shot of espresso and that is hard to convey in a video because it’s such a subjective question and what you like I may not. The other down side is the issue of milk drinks but that’s just me.
@@Henryprofile. hi! You just have to be patient and have the proper technique… I use my kettle to heat everything with the vapor. In minutes I have to use gloves to Handel the stuff…
I like the design, I'd probably buy the Pro 2. I just don't understand why it comes in black or white or chrome… Why is the black or white $60 more than the chrome? Maybe it's just because there is extra work and applying the color? I also saw a video where somebody bolted the base to the arm, and it resulted in a much more stable unit. I don't know if they had to drill that and tap it or if it comes with the optionof bolting it together
I don t care about its look but I find it looking so great so it is a plus. I want for it because of all the good reviews on it. I had an automatic expresso machine that I bought for 800 buck that was keeping failing on me and cost me 140 buvks for every repair... I wanted something robust that would never fail again and last long....very very long. I went for the Flair Pro 2 and the Flair Royal Grinder. 500 bucks in total, but it will last forever. You can experience and do Design of Experiment by playing with several vairables (grind level, infusion time, yield, pressure profiling, pressure tempering, total extraction time...) and pulling the best expresso shot for each of the coffee beans you have. Yes it takes time to make 1 cup (3 min if you have the boiled water ready), but it is an Art by itself. Relaxing ceremonial moment to enjoy a nice evening with your beloved wife or husband to celebrate the end of a hard day of work. Bring it everywhere you want and you ll have your nice, tasty, creamy expresso. 500 bucks...it is a no brainer! To same time, I bought assay tubes in which I filled pre weighted coffee beans. I have a nice wood tube holder and I can quickly prepare up to 6 expresso in a raw. Or you can stick to your Nespresso machine...but in that case, you are not experiencing a true coffee until you start the real deal with machine similar to the Flair, or the equivalent but automated ones.
I bought the flair a few days ago, and its coming in the mail today so i am looking forward to it immensely! This will be my first espresso machine, and i am very proud that at 15 I am well on the way to becoming a coffee nerd. I also love the look of it, and the fact it is portable!
Welcome to the world of black crack. In 5 years youll buy a coffee roaster and go deeper into the rabbit hole searching for that perfect cup of coffee. Which is like every day😂. I bought a Kaleido sniper roaster and have entered the spiderverse. Enjoy the journey bro its a great one.
@@scoobydoo7535 why thank you for this warm welcome. Currently my father roasts our coffee with a popcorn roaster thing so I am eagerly awaiting the advancement into an actual coffee roaster. 😁
@@iwontpoisonyouwithcoffeeso how is it? When i was 15 using caffeine was wild , I did drink a lot a soda though when I was that age so I guess same thing but spending 350$ on a fancy utensil strictly for beverage consumption is for sure a bit odd 🤷🏾♂️
I want a manual espresso machine, but I cant choose beteeen the flair pro 2 and the Cafe Robot. For me the price difference is only 50 bucks. What would be your advice? For me the durabality of the machine and the amount of control at the espresso are the most important
The robot is nice because it’s a full 58mm portafilter, but not everyone likes the workflow. Watch a couple vids on it and you’ll probably get a feel for if you’d dig it or not
I like the idea of how it’s built and the add ons that come with it as your passion grows for a more perfect espresso. I’d like to know what you think about the WACACO Picopresso?
Hi, I am looking to get into the world of espresso and was just wondering apart from the size is there any difference between the PRO2 and the neo (with pressure gauge and bottomless porter filter)? Would you get that much better espresso out of the PRO than the upgraded neo and if so why?
The basket on the pro2 is larger, so even if you upgrade the portafilter on the neo, you will still have a higher ceiling on the pro2. That being said, the neo is crazy bang for buck!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Thanks for the reply. I think I will go with the neo as my next big purchase, I have a timemore c2 (for filter) which wouldn't be good enough for espresso and so the pressurised porter filter seems like a good starting point. Then after I upgrade my grinder (prolly something from 1zpresso) I can get a pressure gauge and bottomless porter filter to produce "proper" espresso. I think having the smaller size is ok as it makes it great for transporting (as a student I move quite a lot) and if I really want to have the bigger size I'd just go for smth like the flair 58. Does this sound like an alright plan?
Is there a coffee like illy or similar that would provide a pre-ground coffee that’s ground correctly to work in the flair? I know it’s not ideal but I’d like to use a pre-grind sometimes.
If you’re looking at pre-ground I would strongly suggest the pressurized basket of the Neo (I have a video on it!) I think you will be disappointed with anything else
Yes, the guage housing is plastic. Technically it’s “above” the water level but it’s still inside the brew chamber. The 58 is all metal, as is the Cafelat robot - aside from gaskets
Took some time to Get used to, but i still love it, Tons of fun trying deferent profiles, and its kind of a meditating thing to turn phone on silent and do the ritual of manual espresso, Even better/needed alonetime after i became a father of two 😂😂
Is there some advantage of having this one in from regular espresso machines like delonghi or breville with 300-700 price range? We do not consider any extra, only making espresso.
Flair won't require descaling, back flushing. Very low maintenance cost, as the build is very simple. Plus with Flair you will have manual flow profiling.
I got a Bambino Plus and I love it for convenience, especially the milk frothing. One major downside is that the automatics break down frequently and that can be costly. I for sure recommend an extended warrantee. My frother broke after just 6mo and my machine is currently out for a warrantee repair. I'm considering a Flair as a backup/alternative while I am waiting. Also, the Flair is fairly portable. I probably wouldn't bring my Breville on the road.
I love the fact that it DOESN’T REQUIRE electricity & can be used even during a power outage! and appreciate that it doesn’t FORCE me to PAY for a TROUBLESOME milk-frothier which is something I will never ever use! So why should I PAY for a frothier? My main appreciation, is that it doesn’t REQUIRE electricity! & my water can be heated …… by a caveman!
Other than the rubber grip (which I'm not a fan of), does the construct of the main body of the pro2 differ to the one on the classic in any way? material wise I mean
You can’t, the 58 is a separate machine - however if you’re comfortable and experienced on another flair machine, moving to the 58 will be a piece of cake
I'm new to espresso stuff, and I know from my little knowledge that this is for that specific purpose, but wanna ask is it possible to vary the water ratio of this machine? I got this habit of enjoying my coffee for a little bit longer, sipping it for like 5-10minutes. So the amount of finished product in your demo is way too small for me.
When i was in Europe i was like “this is ridiculous i can get great espresso for 2 euro down the street.” Now that I’m back in the states it’s very clear i need this, bad.
I got better with espresso with Flair Pro2. Though I now feel ready for a semi auto ( and saving for it ), PRO2 will definitely stay. It helps too, to have a wdt tool but i think a gamechanger for me was my Crema distributor and tamper ( 2 in 1 ) tool made for Pro2. Since then, I have been making beautiful, great tasting shots. I guess, once you have a semi auto, it will be a nice break to use manual once in a while. Anyway coffee cheers, espresso drinkers!
I’ve got an electric and I still use my manual levers! So fun!
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Hi, did you mean the Normcore version? the 45.5mm, I still got tamping problems, I have to really press the coffee in order to get the shot in the right time, if not, I got 15gr in 33gr out in about 20s. Thanks!
“What was I missing about the Flair 52? Well, it happens to have this pressure gauge not found on espresso machines” How did you miss the pressure gauge?
Let's get the history straight. Cafelat Robot had a pressure gauge from the beginning, before Flair. But gauges for manual espresso makers were a thing years before both, like on the EspressoForge and Portaspresso.
Oioioi, just because the coffe landscape is incredibly stupidly expensive, that doesn't make a 300+€ metal press with a pressure guage "cheap". It's like with bicycles, you can get them which cost as much as a whole ass motorcycle, sure pelaton level equipment, but 14k is 14k. And so is 300 buckaroos. In comparison to getting coffee outisde, 300 bucks are easily back in the pocket if you get one of these. But realistically you're only looking at a hand full of cast iron bits, which are painted, some plastic bits and bobs and that pressure guage, which is also not really expensive to make.
Bro like who is going to tell me that a 500 buck coffee grinder has any value in the pricetag. They've got an electric motor which is in every rc car or vaccume cleaner, and a a burr which slides on an slider to adjust how close they are for fine or course beans.
Best workflow tip : use the botom of a 6 cups moka pot with a bit of water in it. Then put the chamber above to preheat with the vapor.
I also add the moka filter on top, then my actual espresso cup.
Sounds complicated, but in practice it takes 10 seconds to setup, both your cup and chamber will be close to 100°C.
great tip!
That’s a great idea. Thanks!!
Thanks for the review. I ordered a refurbished Pro 2 unit from Flair today.
I love my Pro 2. Im a truck driver and always take it with me, and almost every week I take it home. Nice quality. Although I travel a lot would never take it with me on my motorcycle trip or car trip or family vacation
Why not?
My home espresso journey started with the Flair neo. It's been about a year now and I upgraded the basket to a non pressurized one, added the pressure gauge and bought a commandante. As I'm traveling, it's really nice to have the option to just take it with you.
I agree with your point, that the community of flair makes it so easy to get good results. I think this has to do with the price as well. You get a flair for a relatively cheap price, so it's easily accessible for everybody and a lot of people using a machine, will create a group around it. Also Flair as a company offers some nice content on their website, not only about their machine, but about coffee in general.
I think I will skip the Pro 2 and my next machine will probably be the 58, because I want the convenience of it, but the other flair will go in travels with me. Great Video, loved hearing your explanation.
The 58 looks unreal and I would love to try it! I agree, the community is unreal!
I snagged the 58 during their fathers day sale and it has been a massive improvement from my BBP. Whenever i get the urge to upgrade some time in the distant future, it'll have to be a machine with pressure profiling.
I totally feel this. It really raises the cost bar for what you feel like you want for electric machines 😂
Hiw much was it?
When i can afford it, i plan to get into espresso via the flair. It just seems so fun being able to have control over almost every variable of the process. It's like the mechanical transmission of espresso!
Also, i kept thinking that swaying plant in the back window is steam or smoke rising😅
I have the flair pro 2 and a commandante grinder for years now. The espresso is fantastic and it takes just about 5 minutes to make one. Of course I am thinking about upgrading, watch all the reviews but in the end I would have to spend at least a thousand bucks or more to get a chance at an improvement and that’s when I know it is the right machine for me. Go for it, you’ll love it.
A bit late to comment but I just discovered your channel. Great content!
I did get the basic Flair, and after a ton of failures and discouragement, I upgraded to the Pro kit with the pressure gauge. At that point I was able to make proper coffee. It served a good purpose to teach me the basics of espresso, but the workflow is clunky and time-consuming. The fact that you have to take off the brew chamber to remove the portafilter is a big design flaw, and dealing with boiling hot chunks of metal to reset it gets old. It takes about 10 mins to make a cup of espresso from start to finish, which is a lot of time so I started to avoid it for my daily coffee. I like the manual workflow, but at this point I'd like to upgrade to something more efficient, and I'm staying away from anything that requires manual preheating. The Flair 58 seems like a good upgrade, but the heating mechanism seems like an afterthought. They missed the opportunity to boil the water to a given temperature, instead of just preheating the chamber. I'm leaning towards the meticulous which seems well-thought, but it has the risks of a 1st gen product.
I love my flair pro2, but wish it were easier to disassemble the group head when it's at temperature. I burn easily and find it fairly painful to pull back to back shots on, especially separating the portafilter from the group head.
Yup fair! Preheated properly it’s HOT 🔥☕️
Great review man!! Still going with my Aeropress for camping though and my little (soon to be updated) Breville Bambino plus at home ☕️
Thanks man! I really feel like I should pick up a bambino at some point!
If you like espresso when camping, maby the picopresso is a good thing? I would love to try it, but nobody is importing it ti Norway, so the price would be doubble if i order it from another country 😩
After 7 years of espresso with semi-automatic machines, I wanted to improve my skills and learn how to operate a manual direct lever machine.
So I bought the Flair Pro 2 as a 2nd machine, while I still have my main (pump) machine, the Quickmill Carola.
I love the Flair Pro 2, even though obviously the entire workflow is time consuming. But I realize that after some time I will sort out the most effective way to get everything done.
For example I already figured out that for me (I'm doing classic italian dark espresso) prefilling the chamber 1x is completely sufficient.
I love how it feels to make espresso with this machine. It's really absolutely manual and I can control every little detail with the lever.
I can do things like pre-infusion which aren't even possible with the Carola. And it goes way beyond that. On the other hand, the Carola will still be my reliable and quick-and-easy
espresso before my morning commute - the flair process is way too complicated for a workday morning...
Totally agree with this! Manual direct levers are an eye opener!
Great review, maybe keep the BG music down a bit.
Thank you!
Great review! Looking forward to seeing your review of the Ascaso Steel Duo
Yessss 🔥🔥🔥 It’s coming!!
6:33 I don't feel the need to preheat on a Cafelat Robot. The thermal mass is small enough not to need it.
For sure. Lots of owners prefer to do so but the owner of Cafelat advocates for this as well.
I have a Linea Mini with a bit lower pressure (usually set to 6-8.5 bar). It makes good spro to be sure. But my Flair definitely makes better spro, at least if you're looking to get clean, clear results. I tried a Robot for the first time the other day. Outstanding shot as well, unsurprisingly.
Crazy right???
Most important, you are bang on, does it make a good shot of espresso and that is hard to convey in a video because it’s such a subjective question and what you like I may not. The other down side is the issue of milk drinks but that’s just me.
I love my flair pro 2, but now thinking upgrading to the 58, because of thermal management mostly.
The jump to 58mm will be next level for you too 😍🔥
They say it doesn’t get that hot
@@Henryprofile. I haven’t used one personally but have only heard good things. Have you used one?
@@DaddyGotCoffee I heard the same thing for the most part, only 2 people said it doesn’t get hot enough.
@@Henryprofile. hi! You just have to be patient and have the proper technique… I use my kettle to heat everything with the vapor. In minutes I have to use gloves to Handel the stuff…
I like the design, I'd probably buy the Pro 2. I just don't understand why it comes in black or white or chrome… Why is the black or white $60 more than the chrome? Maybe it's just because there is extra work and applying the color? I also saw a video where somebody bolted the base to the arm, and it resulted in a much more stable unit. I don't know if they had to drill that and tap it or if it comes with the optionof bolting it together
how much pressure bar the pre-infusion needs?
I don t care about its look but I find it looking so great so it is a plus.
I want for it because of all the good reviews on it. I had an automatic expresso machine that I bought for 800 buck that was keeping failing on me and cost me 140 buvks for every repair... I wanted something robust that would never fail again and last long....very very long.
I went for the Flair Pro 2 and the Flair Royal Grinder. 500 bucks in total, but it will last forever. You can experience and do Design of Experiment by playing with several vairables (grind level, infusion time, yield, pressure profiling, pressure tempering, total extraction time...) and pulling the best expresso shot for each of the coffee beans you have.
Yes it takes time to make 1 cup (3 min if you have the boiled water ready), but it is an Art by itself. Relaxing ceremonial moment to enjoy a nice evening with your beloved wife or husband to celebrate the end of a hard day of work. Bring it everywhere you want and you ll have your nice, tasty, creamy expresso. 500 bucks...it is a no brainer!
To same time, I bought assay tubes in which I filled pre weighted coffee beans. I have a nice wood tube holder and I can quickly prepare up to 6 expresso in a raw.
Or you can stick to your Nespresso machine...but in that case, you are not experiencing a true coffee until you start the real deal with machine similar to the Flair, or the equivalent but automated ones.
I bought the flair a few days ago, and its coming in the mail today so i am looking forward to it immensely! This will be my first espresso machine, and i am very proud that at 15 I am well on the way to becoming a coffee nerd. I also love the look of it, and the fact it is portable!
Welcome to the world of black crack. In 5 years youll buy a coffee roaster and go deeper into the rabbit hole searching for that perfect cup of coffee. Which is like every day😂. I bought a Kaleido sniper roaster and have entered the spiderverse. Enjoy the journey bro its a great one.
@@scoobydoo7535 why thank you for this warm welcome. Currently my father roasts our coffee with a popcorn roaster thing so I am eagerly awaiting the advancement into an actual coffee roaster. 😁
@@iwontpoisonyouwithcoffeeso how is it?
When i was 15 using caffeine was wild ,
I did drink a lot a soda though when I was that age so I guess same thing
but spending 350$ on a fancy utensil strictly for beverage consumption is for sure a bit odd 🤷🏾♂️
@@devonwilliams2423 yeah I'm odd. I really love the art of coffee though, and I want to own a coffee shop in my future.
Hows it going. Are you satisfied ?
I want a manual espresso machine, but I cant choose beteeen the flair pro 2 and the Cafe Robot. For me the price difference is only 50 bucks. What would be your advice? For me the durabality of the machine and the amount of control at the espresso are the most important
The robot is nice because it’s a full 58mm portafilter, but not everyone likes the workflow. Watch a couple vids on it and you’ll probably get a feel for if you’d dig it or not
Flair gives me a good 1st cup espresso better than many other espresso machines. However, making the 2nd, 3rd,.. continueously are not that easy.
So if you use for yourself and drinking one cup of expresso in each time, Is it good?
@@illiminatiihtiyarheyeti7002I think he answered that when he said “me a good 1st cup”
Thanks for the review. About to buy it.
I like the idea of how it’s built and the add ons that come with it as your passion grows for a more perfect espresso. I’d like to know what you think about the WACACO Picopresso?
And to make milk based drinks, what should one get to steam/froth the milk?
The Bellman stovetop steamer is a really fun solution for this! The nanofoamer decent as well!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Ah yes, the nanofoamer. Do you have a video on that?
@@KrishnenduKes I don't! I should make one!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Yes
Hi, I am looking to get into the world of espresso and was just wondering apart from the size is there any difference between the PRO2 and the neo (with pressure gauge and bottomless porter filter)? Would you get that much better espresso out of the PRO than the upgraded neo and if so why?
The basket on the pro2 is larger, so even if you upgrade the portafilter on the neo, you will still have a higher ceiling on the pro2. That being said, the neo is crazy bang for buck!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Thanks for the reply. I think I will go with the neo as my next big purchase, I have a timemore c2 (for filter) which wouldn't be good enough for espresso and so the pressurised porter filter seems like a good starting point. Then after I upgrade my grinder (prolly something from 1zpresso) I can get a pressure gauge and bottomless porter filter to produce "proper" espresso. I think having the smaller size is ok as it makes it great for transporting (as a student I move quite a lot) and if I really want to have the bigger size I'd just go for smth like the flair 58. Does this sound like an alright plan?
@@jacobhubbard617 let me know how you like it!
Is there a coffee like illy or similar that would provide a pre-ground coffee that’s ground correctly to work in the flair? I know it’s not ideal but I’d like to use a pre-grind sometimes.
If you’re looking at pre-ground I would strongly suggest the pressurized basket of the Neo (I have a video on it!) I think you will be disappointed with anything else
@@DaddyGotCoffee good to know, I'll watch the vid. Thanks
Are there any plastic parts in contact with liquid?
Yes, the guage housing is plastic. Technically it’s “above” the water level but it’s still inside the brew chamber. The 58 is all metal, as is the Cafelat robot - aside from gaskets
Great production quality. You should have more subs than you do. Love the review! :)
Thank you! It’s growing slow but sure! I’m fairly fresh, most of my videos are shorts!
Took some time to Get used to, but i still love it, Tons of fun trying deferent profiles, and its kind of a meditating thing to turn phone on silent and do the ritual of manual espresso, Even better/needed alonetime after i became a father of two 😂😂
It really is a vibe. I love pulling manual espresso!
Is there some advantage of having this one in from regular espresso machines like delonghi or breville with 300-700 price range?
We do not consider any extra, only making espresso.
Flair won't require descaling, back flushing. Very low maintenance cost, as the build is very simple. Plus with Flair you will have manual flow profiling.
I got a Bambino Plus and I love it for convenience, especially the milk frothing. One major downside is that the automatics break down frequently and that can be costly. I for sure recommend an extended warrantee. My frother broke after just 6mo and my machine is currently out for a warrantee repair. I'm considering a Flair as a backup/alternative while I am waiting.
Also, the Flair is fairly portable. I probably wouldn't bring my Breville on the road.
I love the fact that it DOESN’T REQUIRE electricity & can be used even during a power outage! and appreciate that it doesn’t FORCE me to PAY for a TROUBLESOME milk-frothier which is something I will never ever use! So why should I PAY for a frothier? My main appreciation, is that it doesn’t REQUIRE electricity! & my water can be heated …… by a caveman!
Other than the rubber grip (which I'm not a fan of), does the construct of the main body of the pro2 differ to the one on the classic in any way? material wise I mean
the pressure thing works on the classic right
Haven’t managed to get a shot without some sourness yet… I’ll keep trying…
Mess with the grind settings and roast date. I use a hand grinder with a dial section and just made some bad shots until it got better.
Can you upgrade the Neo/Pro 2 to the 58, or is that a separate machine altogether?
You can’t, the 58 is a separate machine - however if you’re comfortable and experienced on another flair machine, moving to the 58 will be a piece of cake
I'm new to espresso stuff, and I know from my little knowledge that this is for that specific purpose, but wanna ask is it possible to vary the water ratio of this machine? I got this habit of enjoying my coffee for a little bit longer, sipping it for like 5-10minutes. So the amount of finished product in your demo is way too small for me.
yeah pull 2 and add a little hot water for an americano!
Can you froth milk?
When i was in Europe i was like “this is ridiculous i can get great espresso for 2 euro down the street.” Now that I’m back in the states it’s very clear i need this, bad.
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The best thing about flair is less need to do maintenance
That’s definitely a plus! Super easy to maintain
flair 58's sticking out cables are a bit turn off.
Thanks.🎉
I love that the cap is gone
Wanna have this too ❤
It’s great!!
design is weak IMO, but I do like the idea of having this kind of control
I got better with espresso with Flair Pro2. Though I now feel ready for a semi auto ( and saving for it ), PRO2 will definitely stay.
It helps too, to have a wdt tool but i think a gamechanger for me was my Crema distributor and tamper ( 2 in 1 ) tool made for Pro2. Since then, I have been making beautiful, great tasting shots.
I guess, once you have a semi auto, it will be a nice break to use manual once in a while. Anyway coffee cheers, espresso drinkers!
I’ve got an electric and I still use my manual levers! So fun!
Hi, did you mean the Normcore version? the 45.5mm, I still got tamping problems, I have to really press the coffee in order to get the shot in the right time, if not, I got 15gr in 33gr out in about 20s. Thanks!
“What was I missing about the Flair 52? Well, it happens to have this pressure gauge not found on espresso machines”
How did you miss the pressure gauge?
Yeah, not taking this to work 😂
10000%
Let's get the history straight. Cafelat Robot had a pressure gauge from the beginning, before Flair. But gauges for manual espresso makers were a thing years before both, like on the EspressoForge and Portaspresso.
Oioioi, just because the coffe landscape is incredibly stupidly expensive, that doesn't make a 300+€ metal press with a pressure guage "cheap".
It's like with bicycles, you can get them which cost as much as a whole ass motorcycle, sure pelaton level equipment, but 14k is 14k. And so is 300 buckaroos.
In comparison to getting coffee outisde, 300 bucks are easily back in the pocket if you get one of these. But realistically you're only looking at a hand full of cast iron bits, which are painted, some plastic bits and bobs and that pressure guage, which is also not really expensive to make.
Bro like who is going to tell me that a 500 buck coffee grinder has any value in the pricetag. They've got an electric motor which is in every rc car or vaccume cleaner, and a a burr which slides on an slider to adjust how close they are for fine or course beans.
ok my bad you didn't say it's cheap. sorry senpai