Looks like the google doc bibliography link isn’t working, I’ll fix it when I can. (Update: It's fixed) Also great timing on my part since the new US drawdown will likely include Bradley’s, making that section of my video out of date already! Let me know if you guys spot any errors.
Haha yeah I went dormant for a lot longer than was originally intended. I may try some shorter videos in order post more frequently while working on the next large project.
@@mr.andrew9171 I appreciate the quality over quantity though. I am tired of everything having to be chopped down into bite size pieces to appeal to the masses.
It's only just appeared so I didn't expect you to cover it but Ukraine secretly been licensed to produce the south African Mbombe 6X6 which they have equipped with the Ukrainian domestically produced Spice 30mm combat module. It was shown last week for the first time, it looks so badass.
I did see it but decided not to mention it for a couple reasons. First, even though it has the large RWS it might still not have enough protection to qualify as an IFV (the mbombe can be configured in different ways but that model might only protect against AP rifle caliber rounds). Second, I’m somewhat dubious of the claim that they are being produced domestically, or at least to what extent. And third, we’ve only seen the one vehicle, and I purposely tried to avoid entries for super rare and esoteric vehicles, since there’s almost no footage of most of them and not a whole lot of background as to how/why they are being used.
Outstanding stuff! It’s funny how modern apcs are all just being upgunned to IFV level which just makes me think they won’t exist in a few decades and will be completely usurped by IFV… looking forward to the apc vid regardless!
Very good video, informative and grounded. I really like your presentation style. The only small thing that ruffles me abit is the remark that there are supposed to be 1000 Marders still in storage somewhere in Germany. Do you have a source for that that? Because I have seen claims made about supposed german stockpiles but in reality the number in industry stock is not more than 200 (in "various" condition) and no bundeswehr stock at all.
Hey there! I did some quick searching and can not find the article that mentioned that storage figure (thats what I get for waiting so long to collect everything for the bibliography). I will keep searching but if I can't find it I will make a comment with some addendums/corrections to the video.
To answer your question. Rosomak basic plating of the hull comprises Armox 450T. Additional spaced armour plates made of Armox 500T steel 6-8mm thick. The Rosomak turret protection is made of rolled aluminium plates with a thickness of 17 to 25 mm (sides and rear). For the mission in Afghanistan (140 used), turrets were additionally covered with 40 mm composite armour consisting of ceramic plates on an aramid base enclosed in aluminium panels, which provided protection according to STANAG Level IV. The APCs used on the mission were also equipped with an external steel cage with tensioned steel cables placed on the panels. It created a much lighter cage than the commonly used steel bar cages. Polish KTO also uses soft-kill APS similar to the one used in PT-91 MBT. Interior is covered with aramid "blankets" for protection against shrapnel. All Rosomaks used in Afghanistan showed traces of shelling and explosions upon return. Everything the Taliban had at their disposal was used against them: 12.7mm and 14.5mm mortars, RPGs with various types of warheads, and IEDs. The damage was caused only by anti-tank IEDs weighing 50 kg and tandem warheads of hand-held rocket launchers. Only two 8x8 Rosomak APCs were damaged beyond repair. Great video!
@@mr.andrew9171 There are probably no English-language sources. There are quite a lot of Polish ones. Even Polish Wikipedia. The anti-cumulative screen is made in Israel, its name is RPGnet. Versions with the ZSSW-30 unmanned turret equipped with two "spike" missiles are already being delivered to the Polish army. pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTO_Rosomak
Regarding the btr-4 production, a few pictures back in january showed a brand new btr-4 being put into service, so it seems like they finnaly are producing them again, from what i have seen they might have some 20 new btr-4s as off march, but considering it took them 6-12 months to set up a artillery production line that now produces 10 spgs pr month, it might be safe to say that they are capable of building some btr-4s. Pr month, probaly above 10
2a42 is an unbelievable success. Used on helicopters, attack aircraft, countless AFVs and anti aircraft roles it is almost everywhere in the Russian military. I have experience with the bushmaster 25mm on the Bradley and have seen what it does to buildings and troops and it’s less impressive but still scary as hell. We found it’s fragmentation effect looks more impressive than it actually is especially at night but the sound of it firing was enough to make your chest thump at 200 meters. Scary stuff all around, I am happy to no longer be active service because it’s getting pretty hairy these days
35:59 thats the ypr 765 pri the netherlands send around less then 200 of them (they send 200 ypr765 bud i,m not sure how many of those are the era, pri or prat version)(ypr765 pri is the ifv you see in the video)(ypr765 era is a ypr 765 pri whit extra armor) (ypr765 prat has 2 tow launchers) and belgium also send some bud i dont know how many
The ones in my video are the AIFV-B-25, the Belgian version. The main difference between the Dutch and Belgian versions are that the Belgian vehicle has the smoke launchers on the turret and the Dutch vehicle has the smoke launchers by the drivers hatch. As far as we (the public) know, all Dutch YPRs that have been provided are the APC version with the open top mount for a .50 cal machine gun. I don't think it has been disclosed yet where Ukraine got its AIFV-Bs from or who bought them.
34:47 By default, the "Wolverine" withstands 14.5 mm frontal fire and 7.62 x54 mm on the side, and additionally armored versions of 30 mm (2A42 russian cannon) and 14.5 mm on the side, plus cumulative screens in Afghanistan against the tandem warhead have been added.24 pieces of ROSMAK were delivered in the "RAK" version with a 120 mm mortar.
It seems likely that Ukranian IFV fleet composition will remain similar through the whole war since as long as war is on-going having as many IFV's as possible is likely to trump logistics considerations. Though long term they will of course seek to build the fleet around a few vehicles - which ones though...?
@@Osterbaum it is difficult to tell, but it looks like the CV90 will be one of the contenders. 230 are being built specifically for Ukraine by Sweden and I think the Czechs. It will be a while before the vehicles arrive, but once they do Ukraine will have a reliable partner for IFV production.
Drones are great to have but they can’t do everything. They can’t move infantry to and from the front, they can only carry lighter munitions, they can be easily jammed, and so on. You still need men and steel to make assaults or defend territory.
At the end of my video I mention that part 3 will be about self propelled artillery, both guns and rockets. Since that may take a while I’ll try to do some smaller videos so the UA-cam algorithm doesn’t bury me.
39:19 Is not chinese It's Willys MB which was bought by ukranian volunteers Actually u can find a lot of information about it participating in Ukrainian parades
Pretty sure its not a Jeep, a cursory google search shows that Wills jeeps have squared front wheel wells whereas the vehicle in the video has all rounded wheel wells. And I don't think I've seen a willys jeep at any of Ukraine's parades in the last couple years, are you talking about the Humvees?
@@DanielNotWise You make it sound like people don't try to make replicas true to form. Are you talking about stuff like this? www.alamy.com/stock-photo-kryvyi-rih-ukraine-may-7-2016-veteran-with-eternal-flame-torch-on-103909353.html?imageid=232876FA-7988-492A-A3BB-6ADAB49E4F10&p=280742&pn=1&searchId=7f751583ede2254bae47d717577ec07f&searchtype=0 Because that Willys has the squared wheel wells, so I'm not sure what vehicle you are talking about. Do you have a link or source to these Willys jeeps you mentioned?
Game changer is just a buzz word, yotubers like Perun have covered this. Its a term used to generate clicks, no one system is going to win the war for either side.
Рад, что ты понимаешь уродливость западных СМИ. Но не стоит писать такие комментарии под видео этого ютубера, так как он не относится к тем глупым людям, что верят СМИ.
Надеюсь ты не скатишься в поддержку украинского режима, как это сделал знакомый мне иностранный нейтральный ютубер. Это было бы потерей для человечества.
Watching the unedited telegram videos vs the curated propaganda on UA-cam is eye opening. From ukranians dropping their wounded and running for their lives to fabs annihilating the entire front lines I don’t know how anyone could believe Ukraine isn’t being steamrolled
You make it sound like these bad things are exclusive to the Ukrainians. I bring up at the end of the video how Russia is itself taking massive casualties, especially since the start of the Avdiivka offensive. And people have been claiming the Ukrainians are getting steamrolled since the start of the war. Very rarely in this war have we actually seen any sort of massive movement or rout, so I think ’steamroll’ is quite hyperbolic for what’s going on now.
@@mr.andrew9171 my goodness you have been very misinformed. Not about Russian casualties as there are plenty of those. However, Ukraine at this very moment is experiencing a battalion sized rout outside chasiv yar, avdiivka was an absolute disaster for Ukraine where thousands of troops were abandoned and forced to traverse more than 7km of open terrain because their leadership refused to allow them to retreat. My friend this is happening all over the front line. The fabs and artillery are decimating the ukranians because they are forced to man known static positions that can be eliminated by artillery, drone, or air. It’s a nightmare. Anyone that has any kind of real military background knows what that means for the soldiers on the ground.
@@mr.andrew9171 Ukraine is now in a position where it is forced to grab people off of the streets and throw them into the trenches without even basic knowledge of how to survive there. Last week in one day alone Russia destroyed 8 aircraft and 2 entire anti air batteries (including the radar and command centers) in one day alone! The ukranians are in a position now where they are just trying to out the holes. This is exactly how the ussr defeated Germany. Destroy known positions and rear elements and when the ukranians have no ability left to defend an area they storm it with overwhelming numbers. It’s not how nato fights wars (which btw havnt been successful against any real military since ww2 when Russia had already depleted the Germans) but it is how Russia has always done it
@@mr.andrew9171 btw I am not a Russian bot or simp. I am an American nationalist and I believe that we have no business supporting a nation on the opposite side of the world involved in a border dispute. Especially one as corrupt as Ukraine
Looks like the google doc bibliography link isn’t working, I’ll fix it when I can. (Update: It's fixed)
Also great timing on my part since the new US drawdown will likely include Bradley’s, making that section of my video out of date already! Let me know if you guys spot any errors.
I love the "oh yeah, that channel exists" feeling
Haha yeah I went dormant for a lot longer than was originally intended. I may try some shorter videos in order post more frequently while working on the next large project.
@@mr.andrew9171 I appreciate the quality over quantity though. I am tired of everything having to be chopped down into bite size pieces to appeal to the masses.
Ah i was looking foward to this one after i saw Part one!
It's only just appeared so I didn't expect you to cover it but Ukraine secretly been licensed to produce the south African Mbombe 6X6 which they have equipped with the Ukrainian domestically produced Spice 30mm combat module. It was shown last week for the first time, it looks so badass.
I did see it but decided not to mention it for a couple reasons. First, even though it has the large RWS it might still not have enough protection to qualify as an IFV (the mbombe can be configured in different ways but that model might only protect against AP rifle caliber rounds).
Second, I’m somewhat dubious of the claim that they are being produced domestically, or at least to what extent.
And third, we’ve only seen the one vehicle, and I purposely tried to avoid entries for super rare and esoteric vehicles, since there’s almost no footage of most of them and not a whole lot of background as to how/why they are being used.
@@mr.andrew9171 yes I agree. It's very early on.
from my fav game to my fav topics when it comes to military equipment lol, TOP CHANNEL
Thank you so much for this! It was a great in-depth analysis!
I’m glad you enjoyed!
Outstanding stuff! It’s funny how modern apcs are all just being upgunned to IFV level which just makes me think they won’t exist in a few decades and will be completely usurped by IFV… looking forward to the apc vid regardless!
Great video, would you consider making videos on ukrainian small arms or emplaced weapons?
Top notch video dude
Thank you, appreciate the feedback!
8:00 Забавно видеть кадры с федеральных каналов :D
Very good video, informative and grounded. I really like your presentation style.
The only small thing that ruffles me abit is the remark that there are supposed to be 1000 Marders still in storage somewhere in Germany. Do you have a source for that that?
Because I have seen claims made about supposed german stockpiles but in reality the number in industry stock is not more than 200 (in "various" condition) and no bundeswehr stock at all.
Hey there! I did some quick searching and can not find the article that mentioned that storage figure (thats what I get for waiting so long to collect everything for the bibliography). I will keep searching but if I can't find it I will make a comment with some addendums/corrections to the video.
To answer your question.
Rosomak basic plating of the hull comprises Armox 450T. Additional spaced armour plates made of Armox 500T steel 6-8mm thick. The Rosomak turret protection is made of rolled aluminium plates with a thickness of 17 to 25 mm (sides and rear). For the mission in Afghanistan (140 used), turrets were additionally covered with 40 mm composite armour consisting of ceramic plates on an aramid base enclosed in aluminium panels, which provided protection according to STANAG Level IV. The APCs used on the mission were also equipped with an external steel cage with tensioned steel cables placed on the panels. It created a much lighter cage than the commonly used steel bar cages. Polish KTO also uses soft-kill APS similar to the one used in PT-91 MBT. Interior is covered with aramid "blankets" for protection against shrapnel.
All Rosomaks used in Afghanistan showed traces of shelling and explosions upon return.
Everything the Taliban had at their disposal was used against them: 12.7mm and 14.5mm mortars, RPGs with various types of warheads, and IEDs. The damage was caused only by anti-tank IEDs weighing 50 kg and tandem warheads of hand-held rocket launchers. Only two 8x8 Rosomak APCs were damaged beyond repair.
Great video!
Thanks for the info! I tried digging around for stuff like that but couldn’t find much, do you know where I can find those sources?
@@mr.andrew9171 There are probably no English-language sources. There are quite a lot of Polish ones. Even Polish Wikipedia. The anti-cumulative screen is made in Israel, its name is RPGnet. Versions with the ZSSW-30 unmanned turret equipped with two "spike" missiles are already being delivered to the Polish army. pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTO_Rosomak
Regarding the btr-4 production, a few pictures back in january showed a brand new btr-4 being put into service, so it seems like they finnaly are producing them again, from what i have seen they might have some 20 new btr-4s as off march, but considering it took them 6-12 months to set up a artillery production line that now produces 10 spgs pr month, it might be safe to say that they are capable of building some btr-4s. Pr month, probaly above 10
2a42 is an unbelievable success. Used on helicopters, attack aircraft, countless AFVs and anti aircraft roles it is almost everywhere in the Russian military.
I have experience with the bushmaster 25mm on the Bradley and have seen what it does to buildings and troops and it’s less impressive but still scary as hell. We found it’s fragmentation effect looks more impressive than it actually is especially at night but the sound of it firing was enough to make your chest thump at 200 meters. Scary stuff all around, I am happy to no longer be active service because it’s getting pretty hairy these days
Хороший комментарий.
Надеюсь нам никогда не придётся встречаться на поле боя в качестве врагов.
Great video
Thanks!
Great video
Thanks!
Audio is pretty low
other than that, good job and thanks
35:59 thats the ypr 765 pri the netherlands send around less then 200 of them (they send 200 ypr765 bud i,m not sure how many of those are the era, pri or prat version)(ypr765 pri is the ifv you see in the video)(ypr765 era is a ypr 765 pri whit extra armor) (ypr765 prat has 2 tow launchers) and belgium also send some bud i dont know how many
The ones in my video are the AIFV-B-25, the Belgian version. The main difference between the Dutch and Belgian versions are that the Belgian vehicle has the smoke launchers on the turret and the Dutch vehicle has the smoke launchers by the drivers hatch. As far as we (the public) know, all Dutch YPRs that have been provided are the APC version with the open top mount for a .50 cal machine gun. I don't think it has been disclosed yet where Ukraine got its AIFV-Bs from or who bought them.
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34:47 By default, the "Wolverine" withstands 14.5 mm frontal fire and 7.62 x54 mm on the side, and additionally armored versions of 30 mm (2A42 russian cannon) and 14.5 mm on the side, plus cumulative screens in Afghanistan against the tandem warhead have been added.24 pieces of ROSMAK were delivered in the "RAK" version with a 120 mm mortar.
Anti-cumulative screens definitely can not protect against a tandem HEAT.
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It seems likely that Ukranian IFV fleet composition will remain similar through the whole war since as long as war is on-going having as many IFV's as possible is likely to trump logistics considerations. Though long term they will of course seek to build the fleet around a few vehicles - which ones though...?
@@Osterbaum it is difficult to tell, but it looks like the CV90 will be one of the contenders. 230 are being built specifically for Ukraine by Sweden and I think the Czechs. It will be a while before the vehicles arrive, but once they do Ukraine will have a reliable partner for IFV production.
They should stick to drones on the front so they don’t lose more equipment like tanks that are easily lost due to drones.
Drones are great to have but they can’t do everything. They can’t move infantry to and from the front, they can only carry lighter munitions, they can be easily jammed, and so on. You still need men and steel to make assaults or defend territory.
What’s next, SPA, APC, SPAA?
At the end of my video I mention that part 3 will be about self propelled artillery, both guns and rockets. Since that may take a while I’ll try to do some smaller videos so the UA-cam algorithm doesn’t bury me.
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Yah
u forgot the ukrainian MTLBu based IFV
38:06 the netherlands is ganna make 180 cv9035 for ukrain bud its not known when they will arive in ukrain
39:19 Is not chinese
It's Willys MB which was bought by ukranian volunteers
Actually u can find a lot of information about it participating in Ukrainian parades
ua-cam.com/video/g55IwYa6l44/v-deo.html
and the process of its creation in the video called "Willys MB (Виллис) сделан для ЗСУ на базе ВАЗ 2106"
Pretty sure its not a Jeep, a cursory google search shows that Wills jeeps have squared front wheel wells whereas the vehicle in the video has all rounded wheel wells. And I don't think I've seen a willys jeep at any of Ukraine's parades in the last couple years, are you talking about the Humvees?
@@mr.andrew9171of course it doesn't, cause it is "replica"
And no, when I am talking about Willys - so it's Willys, I am not such a moron
@@DanielNotWise You make it sound like people don't try to make replicas true to form. Are you talking about stuff like this?
www.alamy.com/stock-photo-kryvyi-rih-ukraine-may-7-2016-veteran-with-eternal-flame-torch-on-103909353.html?imageid=232876FA-7988-492A-A3BB-6ADAB49E4F10&p=280742&pn=1&searchId=7f751583ede2254bae47d717577ec07f&searchtype=0
Because that Willys has the squared wheel wells, so I'm not sure what vehicle you are talking about. Do you have a link or source to these Willys jeeps you mentioned?
all these Nato game changers didn't change anything !
Game changer is just a buzz word, yotubers like Perun have covered this. Its a term used to generate clicks, no one system is going to win the war for either side.
@@mr.andrew9171 жаль, что ты не из России. Нам нужны критически мыслящие люди.
Рад, что ты понимаешь уродливость западных СМИ. Но не стоит писать такие комментарии под видео этого ютубера, так как он не относится к тем глупым людям, что верят СМИ.
LOL such NAFO cope not using Abrams anymore are they LOL
What do Abrams have to do with this video?
Hello comrade, how's the weather in Chelyabinsk?
@@musky5195 nyat, our friend is from American Texas Oblast
Надеюсь ты не скатишься в поддержку украинского режима, как это сделал знакомый мне иностранный нейтральный ютубер. Это было бы потерей для человечества.
Значит скатится в поддержку росийского режима, потеря для человечества произойдёт в любом случае
Watching the unedited telegram videos vs the curated propaganda on UA-cam is eye opening. From ukranians dropping their wounded and running for their lives to fabs annihilating the entire front lines I don’t know how anyone could believe Ukraine isn’t being steamrolled
You make it sound like these bad things are exclusive to the Ukrainians. I bring up at the end of the video how Russia is itself taking massive casualties, especially since the start of the Avdiivka offensive.
And people have been claiming the Ukrainians are getting steamrolled since the start of the war. Very rarely in this war have we actually seen any sort of massive movement or rout, so I think ’steamroll’ is quite hyperbolic for what’s going on now.
@@mr.andrew9171 my goodness you have been very misinformed. Not about Russian casualties as there are plenty of those. However, Ukraine at this very moment is experiencing a battalion sized rout outside chasiv yar, avdiivka was an absolute disaster for Ukraine where thousands of troops were abandoned and forced to traverse more than 7km of open terrain because their leadership refused to allow them to retreat.
My friend this is happening all over the front line. The fabs and artillery are decimating the ukranians because they are forced to man known static positions that can be eliminated by artillery, drone, or air. It’s a nightmare. Anyone that has any kind of real military background knows what that means for the soldiers on the ground.
@@mr.andrew9171 Ukraine is now in a position where it is forced to grab people off of the streets and throw them into the trenches without even basic knowledge of how to survive there. Last week in one day alone Russia destroyed 8 aircraft and 2 entire anti air batteries (including the radar and command centers) in one day alone!
The ukranians are in a position now where they are just trying to out the holes. This is exactly how the ussr defeated Germany. Destroy known positions and rear elements and when the ukranians have no ability left to defend an area they storm it with overwhelming numbers. It’s not how nato fights wars (which btw havnt been successful against any real military since ww2 when Russia had already depleted the Germans) but it is how Russia has always done it
@@mr.andrew9171 btw I am not a Russian bot or simp. I am an American nationalist and I believe that we have no business supporting a nation on the opposite side of the world involved in a border dispute. Especially one as corrupt as Ukraine
@@TheCrapOnYourStrapOnMy goodness you have been very misinformed