United Douglas DC-8-12 - "New York to San Francisco" - 1961
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2014
- From the AV Geeks collection, via the Internet Archive. Re-upped in B&W; the colour was so bad before. Another wonderful period piece, lot's of neat footage around JFK, LAX, SFO, plus DC-8s & 720s!. Be sure to check my channel for the best in VINTAGE & RARE airliner videos!
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When they landed, the footage used as it approached the apron just before stopping, you could see that it was LAX in the background.😊
But I love these old promo films. When flying was truly a luxurious event.
I noticed the landing at LAX too. Also, the SF landing approach is typically over the bay, flying in over the Dumbarton and San Mateo Bridges.
The DC-8 was a grand ship. Some are still flying even today 60 years after they were put into service.
Look at those nice, wide seats!
4 turbo jets no bypass no hush kits. living anywhere near an airport mustve been an earthquake of sound when those dc8s and 707s climbed out
Grew up on United DC-8's including many flights between JFK and LAX & SFO. They would put pass riders in first class and my favorite seat was F-4 in the first class lounge - best seat in the house. This rear-facing seat had a great view of the engines and unobstructed view below. It also afforded me many conversations with the pilots.
Those were good times. It was a time when a kid like me could ask the stewardess/Flight attendant if we could go forward and see the flight deck and meet the flight crew. Sometimes, depending on the airlines, the Captain would sign our junior flight logs with the miles/hours we had amassed, and hand us a set of wings. I still have mine from BOAC. Great video.
I still have mine from BOAC too. First entry dated some time in 1970. Vickers Super VC10 from Lagos to Rome.
"I'LL NEVER FORGET MY FIRST AND LAST FLIGHT ON THE MAGNIFICENT DC-8 "WHISPER JET". ONE OF MY FAVORITES. GREAT FOOTAGE. THANKS!
The "Whisper Jet" was the Boeing 727 with the 3 engines at the rear if I remember correctly.
A family like Sue and Bob's couldn't afford to get a new home and live in San Francisco today.
Susie & Bob's parents wouldn't want to live in San Francisco today
My street in the Oakland Hills was done in 1969. Most my neighbors purchased their homes new in their 20s for $25k. $1.5 million for one in bad almost unlivable condition foreclosure sale last month. SF is surprisingly cheap tho my friend just got a nice home in the sunset for under a million, and he used to rent a 2 bd there for $3500. The South Bay though not so cheap lol.
There were three versions of "An Airplane Trip"; previous editions were produced in 1938, and 1955.
They may have shown landing in SFO, but after they show the ground controller you can see the Theme Building at LAX.
You are correct
It’s interesting to see just how many things haven’t changed much since then.
To the LOUNGE?!?
One of the best planes ever built. Fast with the JT3’s and even faster with the CFM56.
A few interesting facts. United was the only carrier that had a nesting system installed in their DC8’s. The nesting system was a baggage container system. It worked well but us to break a lot due to some abuse. A real pain to work on it. United also had one of their planes over speed and damage the wing spars.
The DC8 (with the JT3’s) was the only jet that I know of, that deployed it’s inboard engine thrust reversers in flight to slow down the plane.
The DC 8 was also a workhorse. A real dog by today’s standards but a hell of a plane in the 1960’s.
D R neat info, thank you for sharing!
That poor dog must have been horrified. A bygone era of airline travel here. Everyone dressed neatly and clean. No dirty slobs or screaming babies then. Just a very enjoyable time for everyone.
but now with all these "dank memes", lousy kids, and everything else, planes could sure be a mess. Not to mention kids playing Fortnite Mobile will be common in airplanes today
They had screaming babies then too, adults just werent such uncaring soulless narcissistic assholes like there are now.
The major positive about modern airline travel is the no smoking policy.
I love that plane so ahead of its time and still is
superb landing in LAX/SFO
How did they survive without their comfort animal?
Which controler was Kennedy Steve?
I flew several times alone as a child...I always got to go into the cockpit.
In my opinion Pan Am represented the best of United States prestige across the globe. They were the Emirates of the day. I'd say from the 1930's to the late 70's.From introducing the Boeing 707 to the 747 you really have to admire the way the company was so organized, and run by Juan Trippe.Pan Am represented America overseas, flying to over 86 countries, that blue globe livery was widely respected. I would have loved to have flown with them. My dad did however fly with them, and said it was his best flight ever from LHR-JFK in Feb 1980. He said you barely knew you were in the the air, and the service was fantastic. He also said everybody on board were polite and well mannered.
Their demise was horrible.Surely the brand could have been saved , but i suppose Delta was having none of it. Like an Air France/KLM type of organization ( separate branding , but sharing profits etc). I suppose American economics were totally different 30 years ago. Also coming to their end just 10 yrs after Mr Trippe's death.
Must nip over to Miami to visit the Pan Am Aware store. Jeff Kriendler compiled a great book : Pan Am Personal tributes to Global Aviation Pioneer. I highly recommend this book for anyone who has in interest in Aviation or a aircraft geek like me!
It’s like a another world 🌍 Economy was like 1st class back in the day
Now you got Chips for lunch, if your lucky !!!
As of March 2019, UA801 is a non-stop flight from SFO to RDU. Aircraft used is the Airbus A319.
I love those kind of videos, thanx 4 sharing!
They looked awfully low flying over Denver.
Robert Lizinski It’s normal. The pilots go at that altitude so they see the buildings.
what?? they used to do that??
But isn't Denver rather high?
These folk were so lucky to travel like this,,bless them,,,
Thumbs Up! My how times have changed in the last 58 years. The seats in this video are HUGE! and so are the meals. Now passengers are treated like cattle.
6:23 Great 1961 man’s haircut, on the right.
No security, no lunatics ,kids are polite as are the grandparents . Today its a free for all and anything goes .Drunks, scantily clad girls and stinking bums- all in your plane- just great.
Bob and Sue are pushing 70 now, and are shocked at how air travel has turned into a nightmare and San Francisco turned into a giant sewer lol
Gone are those years when flying was a pleasure and a luxury!!
Flight is still a miracle.
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Your comment is go good. As they flew over their new city I briefly fantasized about the boundless possibilities suddenly realizable by a kid moving to San Fran as a kid - 50 years ago.
and skippy never woke up...
Yep those seats were like sitting in a recliner in your living room! I love traveling with my parents then. Today? Not a fan.
Very nice thank you for sharing
I like the reassuring narration about oxygen masks being provided for "more comfortable" breathing, rather than scarier language like "so you don't pass out and die from hypoxia."
those were the days of aviaton!
What a tecnologhy 58.years ago!!
Amazing 1st generation jets!!
And without mcas
technology
Enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing. I like to look up information about aircraft when I see the tail numbers and noticed that plane making the 360 degree turn from the gate near the beginning had a different tail number than the one that arrives at the destination at the end. The departing plane flew with UA for 20 years then was scrapped. I only flew on a DC-8 a couple of times, including a memorable trip from Chicago to Vegas on UA around 1987 or 88. The airline retired whatever they had left of them not long after that.
Not only that, N7209U that they arrived on (seen at the gate) was actually a Boeing 720.
Love the old continental accents
The best part was the voice over. It was written by Paul Hanna (famous for the Dick and Jane books). He and his wife commissioned a house by Frank Lloyd Wright.
Doug Cargill You mean Jane's Encyclopedia of Aviation?(the 5 blue books)
Very cool video. And at 09:48 there is something not seen too often - a nosewheel bounce during landing.
Wonderful video Thank you
I remember not more that 30 years ago a wonderful UAL DC-8 flight PDX to JFK, I was spoiled from coach from that day on...
The pilot and co-pilot were both wearing their jackets and caps - it must have been cold in the cockpit!
Ah now today the girl would lie about needing the dog for "emotional support" and bring it in the cabin to annoy the other passengers.
Notice how their DC-8 miraculously becomes a Boeing 720 just before they deplane.
I bet bob is a pilot working 4 major Air Lines right now !
And these kids are in first class
It's funny how much things have changed but it's funny how little things have changed...
Anyone else notice that the plane landed in LA, not SFO, and that the serial number was different? Ah, to be a kid flying 1st class with seats that REALLY reclined. It wasn't quite like that yesterday when I flew to competition from San Fran to Atlanta. But yeah, I remember those early days.
28000 ft ? isnt that too love for this jet?
Yes. You are right. This plane had a maximum service ceiling of 42.000 ft. I am wondering why they said they where fliying at only 28.000 ft.
It's interesting that they loaded from the rear as well as the front. Makes sense, wonder why we only load through one door or at most 2 if it's a jumbo but always from the front.
Douglas Coleman probably took up more room on the tarmac than nosing in like most planes do today.
Two kids in first class!
Dispatcher on the ramp , how perfect
Amazing if her could even be heard with all that noise. A jetliner of comperable role today puts out at least as much power, with a single engine as all four on the DC8, while making a lot less noise, and still is loud enough for ear protection to be mandatory. Of course OSHA was still over a decade away in 1961, so ground crew safety wasn't as important. Oh, and there is no way, that at least one of those turbojet engines wasn't turning enough to power the cabin. APUs weren't a thing for jetliners of that size yet.
Would kill for seats like that today!
If you're willing to fork over an arm and a leg, there are some airlines still ofller seats like, if not better than that. Deluxe seating today costs what a ticket back then would, adjusted for inflation.
Notice everyone is well dressed !!
I loved it.....
So cool.
4:51 Boy things sure have changed. those seats are enormous. Seats now are about a third the size.
I really liked the LAX tower at the end.
They say they are going to land in San Francisco but at 9:57 you can see the Theme Building
They were diverted to Los Angeles due to fog.
Yeah I caught that, lol.
I missed those good old days , when the used 2 feed u , now they robe u !
I know this is going to show my age the first airliner I ever flew on was a delta DC-8 I remember it like it was yesterday sat just in front of the wing where you could see the engines big roomy seats sadly not like the last time I flew Delta🤔😞
1:57 Now, some airlines will allow skippy to fly in an approved carrier, in the main cabin, for a fee of course
Unless they claim it's an "emotional support animal", then it saves them the fee.
I know he probably would have been too young, but the narrator sounds a lot like Richard Sanders, who played Less Nessman on WKRP in Cincinnati.
I noticed that the plane was not 'pushed back' from the gate but turned around itself and headed out to the runway. Why do they now have to be pushed back by a small truck?
Now days gate space is at a premium, so aircraft have to come into gate nose first in order to fit more gates and aircraft into the terminals. It is possible for aircraft to back out of gates using reverse thrust, however such a practice uses more fuel and the engines stur up much debris FOD as it is called. Hence that is why pushback tugs and towbars are used. Worked in the industry.
Yup, saves fuel and space. Our local still occasionally does self-turns on the regional jets without tugs. Back when American was running the MD-80's they'd do it too. I grew up with open gates and getting blasted by the 727's and 737's in the 60's. Loved hanging on to the rail and feeling the wind of burnt jet fuel.
Airports are servicing more jets now, than ever before. There's no room to turn around even an Embraer 135, let alone any of the big jets. Also, High Bypass Turbofans suck in massive amounts of air to produce thrust, they engines will be destroyed by debris if they try and push a plane e back from a dead stop at the gate.
Did you see how BIG the seats are ?
golden age of air travel. ....present day squeeze as many in rayn air , easy jet are few examples budget airlines rude crew abusive fellow passengers WTF
28,000 feet? what.
New York to San Fecesco 2019. Sue and Bob crammed into filthy United plane served by surly cabin staff visit the Worst Coast and get typhus.
Captain commanding of the flight.
The only remarkable thing about this short film is the decorum and manners of the passengers. The cabin service is nice and all, but this is first class after all, it should be that way.
Comparably speaking, first class today is just as good, if not better, given creature comfort innovations, such as IFE’s and lie-flat seats. Today’s aircraft are also more reliable and safer as a result.
The thing with we old timers is that we miss the way people used to behave back-in-day. You can’t build and sustain a great nation with undiscipline people. You also can’t give away your industrial strength (outsourcing) to other nations as well without serious, long-term economic repercussions.
Are they still exist????
Sounds like Casey Kasam.
The world change a lot , and will be continue changing for the worse.
Those old DC08's and 707's had REAL jet engines, worked like Rockets, not like the turbofans of today. You can tell cuz the old engines are skinny like cigars. The took the plane to almost 600mph, much faster than the 767's of today.
Not really true. 767's cruise at 486 knots or 559 mph, DC-8's had a cruise speed of 556 mph, pretty much the same. Remember a turbofan is basically a turbojet like the early DC-8s had with fan mounted on the front driven by the shaft with a essentially a big pipe around it shroud the fan. I agree that nothing sounds like the turbojets or low bypass turbofans.
Haha the most inaccurate comment ever
It’s not about the thrust but rather the Mach number and drag. As the aircraft gets into the transonic region, drag greatly increases and you begin to get localized supersonic airflow.
Good days
Bob didnt sound too excited about the trip.
ha, what a riot; the captain pushes the throttle; except he was moving the suitcase handles (stab trim) but then again the narrator didn't know that !!
...fuel ignition levers (below throttles) were in OFF position too.
TSA have to watch this video before shift.
Notice how nice the cabin is without overhead storage?
Seats were so big then, and passengers carried so little, you didn't need overhead bins. Now, with baggage fees, and minimal cabin service overhead bins and underseat storage have are a necessity for most passengers in economy class.
This plane only had configuration seat 2-2, no 3-3 for economy?
They have it.
We probably just saw the 1st class cabin. I assume economy class further back had 3-3 abreast.
Actually it's at 10.02
The first time I flew was TWA, round trip from Chicago to Phoenix in 1980. I thought it was great. Now, I don't like air travel very much. Haven't flown in 2 years. Too much of a hassle.
Looks like they landed at LAX at 9:57
Lol @ 10:00 you see the LAX theme building in San Francisco!
Que. Moderno
Loading baggage into pods for loading on the plane. Looks simple, does any plane ever use that anymore? Probably not, as any delay in getting there baggage makes impatient people upset. Visiting the gate to see you friends board....those were the days. No metal detectors, oh the humanity of it all.
At least the landing was at SFO. The old central terminal building with the tower on top was there.
The LAX theme building is visible at one point
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I think they used a combination of footage from both airports. I recognize the trees at Coyote Point when the plane begins to land.
Ha, today you’re lucky to get a bag of peanuts & small can of soda on your flight lol!
That was LAX that they landed in. Note a quick shot of that old control tower turned employee cafeteria! LAX...
Traveling now sucks. We should have never left from this era.
Yeah, flying today can be a real drag.
JFK airport
Look at the sofa like seating
Did anyone else notice that the plane landed at LAX and not San Francisco? Maybe it’s just me,
Sue and Bob's parents probably bought their house for under 20K back then. Who knew?!!
What a Shit-Show, flying is today, compared to this wonderful, classy, bygone Era. Sad.....