Actual Roadie Reacts to "Roadies" TV Show (Ep 1)
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Was "Roadies" as accurate is it claimed to be?
"Roadies" was a 2016 Showtime series created by Cameron Crowe that was cancelled after one season, but was promoted as a fictional drama that shows an accurate depiction of life for roadies on tour.
To try something different, I sat down and watched the first episode to see how accurate it really was, what (if anything) it got right, and gave my thoughts and experiences on how life on the road really is compared to what was shown in the first episode.
00:00 Intro / Series Background
03:28 Reaction / Analysis
28:17 Final Thoughts
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I have worked in arenas for many many years and i have never seen a backstage area as empty as some of these scenes show. There are constantly dozens of both road crews and venue staff everywhere! Thanks for doing videos like this and helping to educate those that aren't in the industry to see what its really like
I didn't even think about that until I was editing this. Yeah, it seemed like a closed off ghost town in a lot of scenes, and normally people are EVERYWHERE. Haha. Good call.
I once saw a small band that probably did the entire booking themself. And during their Tour they booked a venue for 500+ people ish, while other tour stops were in the smallest clubs or even bars. So in the end they had this huge stage for themself with maybe 20 guests and the only staff was one employee of the venue doing entrance and barkeeping... Talking about an empty venue 😅
As someone who is not connected to the music industry in any way, other than buying records and CDs and going to a show/ concert about every 30 years, this was very entertaining for me. Getting a condensed version of the actual show (in which I most likely wouldn't be too interested in by it's own) in combination with the inside knowledge was just the right mixture. And the facial expression when the microphone scene happened was just hilarious.
Agreed.
I too wouldn't watch full episodes of this show, but the short edited bits with commentary from someone who has actually lived the life is entertaining.
Been a stagehand for 28 years. Never forget when a new guy got his foot run over, when pushing the deck.
Broke most of the bones in his foot. Ouch!
Oof. I saw that happen to a NOT so new guy a few years back, and it was not pretty.
Two gripes I remember having with this show. 1. - It's ten episodes but you barely see anybody roadie-ing. 2. They work for an arena level band, but you never ONCE hear any of their music. The show Nashville would feature at least one original song every episode. It was feasible to hear at a little of the band's music
Yeah you hear the bands ..
Loved this! Definitely like you pointing out the parts that are realistic and the insights you have. Would definitely watch more!!
Being that it's a TV series, the vast majority of it is going to be drama, and cliche', stereotypes of bands on the road that are long in the past.
However, having a modern take on the show is informative and entertaining.
Keep it rollin' man. I'm here for it.
Your commentary made it amazing. I would certainly enjoy an episode or two more of this.
"You are invited to leave the organization" is the most British way of firing someone ever
Of all the amazing yhings Tank hass done, he forgot one of the most important one: he completely stole my heart!😂❤ Glad to see you doing all sorts of random stuff mate! That was an intersting take on the thing! Appreciate all the love and care you put into it as always! Keep rocking T! 🤘🏻🤘🏻 ps: the "band credits" killed me!😂
Honestly Tank I just enjoy watching your content plain and simple. I like this because it’s something different
I would love to see more of this
I loved your eyes around 24:40 when you realized where it was going man 😂 fucking spectacular
I really liked your thoughts about the show. It gives us a better understanding of what's actually going on behind the scenes, which is something that I was always curious about!
Definitely entertaining, please keep doing it, it's definitely interesting to see what is not quite correct, what is laughably false and what they actually get right :) Thanks Tank :)
I genuinely liked this, Tank. Being a bit longer, I may have to make time for it...but I honestly think I will...it was really entertaining, engaging, I didn't fast forward...well done, boss!
Now that you already spoke a bit about what you already did in the past: I would love a video about your story. How you got into being a Roadie and how you started to eventually end up with these big bands!
Thinking about the scene where the opening act is yelling at the tour manager…I was working a one off outdoor show on a local college campus. The SGA brought in a fairly known band for the start of the school year welcome back event. Part of this event was for a campus band to open the show. I think there was some type of contest or they were studying in the music program. An afternoon thunderstorm caused a delay which was made up by shortening the opener from 25 mins to 15 minutes. The girl who fronted the band went ballistic and screamed at everyone in monitor world and including the headliners monitor engineer. Her rant went for about 5 minutes and included a bunch of garbage about her contract and how none of us would be allowed back on the campus. Her band never set foot on the stage.
To clarify something you casually mentioned: so on a big tour would the supporting acts bring their own techs? Is there a difference between the main support which often a pretty big band in their own right (eg: Melvins supporting Tool - who blew them out of the water - or Down with the Dio Sabbath tour), less well known bands doing the full tour, or local bands just doing at most 3 or 4 gigs in their town/region? How does that all work: they wait for the headliner to do their thing and do what they can when they do?
There are production schedules that are made in advance that each band will get, including what time they should show up at the venue and what time their soundcheck is. But, what you stated, "wait for the headliner to do their thing and do what they can when they do" is pretty accurate. The headlining band basically gets full reign of control with how they want to set up the stage, and every band works around it. And most bands on tour at a club level or bigger would have their own techs. Sometimes a tour manager would double as a front of house engineer or something like that, but most bands carry as many people as they can, and there is definitely an order to which you usually hire people. Sound engineers are usually the first type of crew a band would start bringing out, as well as Tour Managers and Merchandise Managers.
I have a bus driver in my family, he's over 60 and hoddamn the stories he have! He used to drive a truck when young but then changed to charter buses. When I was younger he'd take me with him sometimes, went to other countries and all with him. It was awesome.
I worked for local arena security for a show, and the headlining artist tried carrying in, that show had a walk thru metal detector setup and when it went off the sherrif stationed there had to call back up because the artist refused to take it back to the bus, so he was denied entry and ended up not performing at all because he refused to go in without carrying. The artist had specifically requested the metal detector becaused hed been shot at on his bus at a previous show
Lemme guess. Country gig? 😂
@@TankTheTech haha nope! But if you search 2015 atlanta tour bus shooting, youll find it the original incident and who it was. Idk if anyone really has an incident like that in country do they? Wouldnt they all just fight with fists, beer bottles and whatever other objects they could find?
Nah, there’s been some incidents. Parmalee had someone come on their bus with a gun years ago and their drummer actually got into a shootout with the guy and wound up in the hospital for quite a while.
@@TankTheTech well thats just bananas!
There is a Roadie story about how someone got an idea to put laser pointers on spotlights to help the spot operators preset before they open the shutter on the light. Well, an artist is on stage during the intro song in the dark before the show starts and gets a bunch of red laser dots start showing up on him. He drops behind the floor monitor and the stage lights come up. After the show some people got a major ear full. No one told him about the lasers and the spotlights belonged to the venue.
Love your breakdowns tank! I was a lighting tech out of Nashville back in the 90's when touring was still booming. I worked for vari*lite as a shop tech when not on the road working a tour. A great book that details real world behind the scenes activity is "life on the road" by Bill Boswell who also worked at vari*lite late 80's early 90's. Cheers man
Thanks a ton, Tank! A tiny, little dream came true. How often had I asked myself: "What would Tank think of this show". I must admit, I am a fan of Cameron Crowes' work since "Almost famous" and I really like most of the stuff he did. I watched this show two or three times over the past years, just because for me, it is a feelgood show. I know that this show is not a documentary about roadie life, so your remarks are very valuable. But, I watched enough concerts, even followed my favourite band on their whole tour through Germany (Spock's Beard in 2000 in 6 cities), talked much with the band, their roadies and engineers, even got to know the busdriver quite well, so I am aware that this show can't be as accurate as it maybe should be, for the sake of production, drama and plot. It would be quite boring to watch every case unloaded, and later loaded again...
One could argue that this show is very softened regarding the business aspect of touring life. But over the years I realized that the overall motive of Crowe's work is family, a very romantic, a very southern "Blood is thicker than water" point of view. So with Crowe as a director it is quite obvious that you'll get a somewhat romanticized version of this theme, and I am pretty sure that he mixed in some of his own anecdotes from his experiences in the 70ies rock era in this show, things like you mentioned "This won't happen today, anymore".
If Michael Moore would have done this show, that would be a different beast...
Anyway, enough rambling, I personally would really enjoy some more episodes "Roadies by Tank" especially Ep. 03 "The Bryce Newman Letter" and Ep. 08 "The All Night Bus Ride", the first hilarious and funny, the latter a great trip down memory lane (accurate or made-up: doesn't matter, it's pure joy to watch).
I liked the video and would probably watch more episodes if you put them out.
This was pretty great, yeah.
The hand holding moment cracked me up.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. The show looks fairly entertaining, but it does have some "Hollywood " spin in it. Great job. I enjoyed this very much. Thank you for reminding me what it was like doing the roadie tours. I worked on the southeastern leg of Pink Floyd World Tour '94 as a lighting tech on high steel. It was hard work but very gratifying. I would love to see more episodes with you doing the reaction to them. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and great job on the video.
Oh man that’s wild!!! And thank you!
I liked it. Does it make sense to make a video for every episode? I don't know. But even if the series is a drama and not a documentary, the informations and insights you provide, are still informative and valuable.
1980's I was with the locals. No: OSHA, Harnesses, but. . . Building Security was a must from before load-in until long after load-out. Maximum Security on Van Halen's 1984 Tour out shined the Secret service Event.
Before even watching any further; the ”You suffer” while rolling the various bands … 😂
It makes me so happy when people actually notice that, cause I use it randomly here and there. Haha
0:45 in the wise words of Cher from the movie Clueless… “i totally paused.” 😃
Yes, do more. This was fun.
7:13 (or whatever timestamp) - that holding hands and getting motivated is taken from a performance theater trope, probably one of the writers picked it from Intro to Theater 101.
Ah, interesting.
Every tour I was ever on, I would always learn enough of the setup for other departments to help them out when I had downtime. Helped them out and gave me something to do when I had nothing to do and I learned a little bit.
This was entertaining. Keep on doing these, because at least I can't find anyway of watching this show in the EU.
Different industry, but I got voluntold to be a blocker for a lifting event, and basically told to stand somewhere. When someone walked into the space all I was told was that I failed. I (civie) then had to tell a khaki (chief or higher) that he had to vacate the space... good times 😑
(The relevance here, yes, people should be aware and not wander into spaces with lifts, sometimes it happens, and honestly I had the same 'oh crap' reaction when you critiqued the show, just with substantially less panic 😅)
I've never even heard of this show and am not part of the industry in anyway. I found this video super entertaining and would continue to watch!
When I read the description of what this video was, I didn't think I'd like it, but it was entertaining, hearing an actual roadie's perspective was very interesting. I've been a sound tech on small pub and club tours and attached to local 300-500 capacity venues, but nothing like the tours that Tank has been on. In terms of the show, it was always going to be dramatized, putting on a show is not that eventful!
As former touring crew boss in the UK - staging, barriers, rigging etc. I loved this series and great commentary too
As someone how's worked in security for many, many years, I just hate the way security guards are portrayed. Any security guard that acted that way, would have been sacked, on the spot. And good luck anyone else taking you on, because it's not going to happen.
And now you understand how it is watching anything military related as a former military member. Close... but glaring flaws that just fuck everything up.
I had a lot of such situations, almost all the situations that their tour manager and production manager encounter. The reality is that you have to give a lot of explanations and manage people's questions.
New to the channel and really enjoyed this. Got me thinking of Warped Roadies on FuseTV (oh the golden days). What did you think of that series if you watched it?
I love this show. Was short but sweet. Would guess some things aren't real but I loved, that they showed more of the Roadie side and didn't really show that much of the Show itself. Was cool to see the heroes behind the szene.
Worked as a roadie back late 90's to mid 2000's I been on some gigs where there was the odd tech who would skateboard like that.
Also in Australia we have the stage setup and build our rigs on stage.
Overall it seems like it is set more 90's (over the years it's definitely become more corporate regarding safety) but I think it was as you put it leaning towards "drama" then the job but if gotten another season maybe it would lean the other way
Yes its a regular tv drama, not representative in any way. Though while entertaining, I would love to watch the series with you tank just for reaction/hanging out. If not on yt, maybe on your twitch? :)
I mean Cameron was on the scene decades ago. I haven't seen the show but I'm guessing this is supposed to represent more of how things used to happen back in the 70s and 80s even though the Taylor Swift references are trying to give it a more modern feel. In any case this stuff is enjoyable to watch and I'll keep watching if you make more, Tank!
Yeah, that's also a pretty good point. But if that were the case, it wouldn't be hard to have based it in the 1980's.
These are both of my thoughts on it. Some of the cliches and inaccuracies probably were more accurate back in Crowe's time, so then why didn't they set the show back then? My guess would be the network probably wanted it to be modern because they thought it wouldn't appeal as much otherwise?
@@TankTheTech That would've been awesome, some proper 80's cheese etc. would make it funnier.
Another fun video, Tank. Btw what IEMs do you use?
JH Audio Laylas
That's mighty serious stuff!! Nice.
11:17 looks like the old northlands Coliseum in Edmonton Alberta
And yeah Ive pushed a few stages as a local crew 😂 always push, never ever pull
eta, its actually the Pacific coliseum in Vancouver BC, similar look
8:13 yeah we had the exact same reaction: no freaking way!! I have heard stories of a very famous artist doing that with a Segway personal transporter and apparently even they got banned to their backstage room after the local crew threatened to leave the site..
I am legit intrigued and interested in watching you watch this show and give your 2 cents about it. I found this video entertaining and informative
Actually interesting and entertaining to get your comment on it and what is accourate and what itsn't. Espacially on this big arena shows and stuff like that. Cause all the time I have been backstage and/or merch girl was at small ass underground club concerts :D
So like I said, when you talked about it on Twitch - I would like to watch this for the whole season. :) But this takes probably a lot of time to record and edit, so I'd understand if you won't do it...
I prefer the edu-tainment content like this, though I will still watch the reactions just to support the channel.
As a roadie, former skateboarder, and former ground rigger, the scene of that character skateboarding through a rigging load-in with headphones on is more nerve-wracking to watch than "Oppenheimer." It's like the scene of the kid from "The Shining" but scarier by many orders of magnitude.
Your take on it was fairly entertaining. I could see not wanting to do the whole series though.
I enjoyed the show when it came out. Wanted a second season. I wouldn't mind if you kept up the reactions to it but I also wouldn't be heartbroken if you just kept reacting to banger songs
I love your videos tank.
That list of bands was hilarious
Does anyone know where i can watch the series? I google but i can only find amazone prime where, its not available. Maybe due to my location(Sweden)?
Can I get a list of the names of the albums on the wall?
Responding to your thoughts about not knowing if reacting to the show was going to be entertaining. Put it this way, I'm subscribed to Tank's channel for Tank. Your reactions are fun to watch brother. You could react to Robocop and I'd check it out. This channel brings me back to 2010 chilling in my buddy's apartment after his band's show, drinking jager, listening to Soilwork and watching movies hungover the next morning. Keep it up my dude.
Was that bearded guy half way in Jorma?
The one thing I reacted "NOT HAPPENING" on was that there was no hardhats on people while and undergoing rigging was happening. Ive heard that hardhat rules can be less strict in the US then europe but I cant tell you the number of times ive set a foot into the arena and got shewed up by others for not having a hardhat on + signs EVERYWHERE of wearing hardhats. I dont think i saw a single steel toe shoe either... 🤔
Rules are a little more relaxed in the US (or at least relaxed in the sense that nobody follows them), but almost every tour I've been on, EVERYONE is wearing hard hats while the rigging is going up if they're in the general vicinity of the chains for more than 10 seconds. If I'm walking through, I'll keep my eyes up and won't wear a hat, but if I'm also working on the ground, I'm definitely having a hat on.
@@TankTheTech exactly!
Another rigging related one.
In the hand-holding scene: where's the mothergrid?????
This is coming from the band angle more than the roadie angle but it’s very related and relatable and seems like a good place to drop a little kindness to help make the world go around. Coming from the words of a friend who has enjoyed a pretty privileged musical career, one great piece of advice I can give to support bands is be humble and efficient. On the first day, maybe even few days do not be surprised if you get no proper soundcheck. Stay humble, get in there, do your best with the gig, live the experience as if your life depended upon it. Be nice to the road crew - that should be pretty obvious. There may be a rider on the tour for you, there may not be. Stay humble, get in there, do your best and make the most of it. Along the way things will probably open up, a bit of help here, a bit there - consideration for a wedge monitor, a little more space for you on stage, something approaching a rider, getting looked after.. stay humble and be good. Enjoy the experience, be punctual, thoughtful, professional.. in short don’t f**k around acting like the GOAT (unless you can REALLY back that up - Van Halen on the Sabbath tour spring to mind, and they probably still remained somewhat humble in spite of circumstances) and you stand a good chance of being remembered by the headline band with kindness.. and kindness, good words, good deeds get around. Again my mate has enjoyed some G R E A T support gigs owing to such a professional attitude. Good luck!
I thought this was fun. I would also like to watch the show but i cant find it anywhere. Where can you watch the show at?
It's not available on any streaming service at the moment, and I had a friend download it and send it to me.
Do another one!
man really played the entirety of 'you suffer' by cannibal corpse in his video
😂😂😂😂 I use that quite frequently in videos for fun, and hardly anyone EVER catches that. GOOD JOB!
Is there a cover by Cannibal Corpse? I've only heard the original by Napalm Death.
@@punkjay4681 oh yeah its napalm my bad
Good video and insight. I’m glad you didn’t censor yourself this time because that actually bothers me for some reason I can’t explain in some of the videos I watch on UA-cam, including yours. The song says “fuck” and that isn’t censored so why should you be?
Ive never held hands in a cirlce either and if a tour asked that of me - id be the first one gone, haha.
I really enjoyed this show. Despite the glamorizing for Hollywood productions it was a fun show with some actual feeling. For the most part, there was good chemistry between characters.
All of my experiences were more grueling and exhausting that the show's stories, so it was nice to see a more positive version. LOL
Even when you're just lauthing at it, that's probably still more entartaining than just watching the original
I've seen drivers work Robo-spots during the show. Making some extra $$$$. Big tour, early arrivals. And they only got there an hour or so before downbeat.
Everything I learned about Roadies I learned from Brutal Legend.
Hell yeah.
14:40 yea I think thats in every company. same where I work at. ^^ // 17:10 yea nowadays the backstage area is literally the most boring place of the entire concert. hooking up probably dont happen, but I know some girls who were quite forceful in becoming friends with crew and bandmembers. the hooking up part didnt work out but becoming friends actually did work out they got along with bands and singers, traveled some cities in their tourbus, visited them in the states. or got phonenumbers from others. its easy when you have your charms and look pretty. on the other hand I noticed as a guy from a band thought it was a hook up and he did a move, they acted like he was sexually harassing them. thats why these bands+fan relationships are very dangerous, and I agree that people wont do stuff like that these days. // 27:14 I once saw the bus driver of danko jones in europe sitting at the merch . yea no idea when they sleep maybe he couldnt sleep that day or they had a day off afterwards dunno. I really enjoyed this video as I dont wanna see the entire show in full xD 30min per episodes with your commentary is good enough.
"No fucking chance!" LOL.
Hi Tank
I thought it was an entertaining video from your behalf and I think your reaction was more accurate than the TV show. I was a local stage hand for 14yrs and agree with all the things you pointed out that weren't accurate.
I haven't watched the series, so don't know how it pans out but I'm sure there will be more things that the tv show got wrong that you will be able to point out. Debunk the myths of the backstage environment and roadie lifestyle for those who have no idea and believe all of the folklore and hype.
You should watch the 1998 indie gem "Bandwagon"....
Hell I'd watch another episode just for the fun of it
Regarding that hookup intro, I used to own an expedited freight company and I gave a chance to a driver who'd done some jail time after being the driver on a Bare Naked Ladies tour. He evidently got hooked up with a groupie who he was assured was screened and of age, only to find out she wasn't. Smh
B.A.R. to Cypecore Dissatisfactory? I think you might like it if you haven't heard it yet. Industrial Core
Do more
I loved Roadies and was bummed it was cancelled.
I loved Roadies
I loved that series, to bad it got canceled...
I wished I could have been a Groupie.
I always had to work or go to sleep
The only fun Tours I did were with Phish and AC/DC and Ricky Martin.
The others are full of stressed out people that don't like their jobs.
I think a lot of people get the job and it's tough living on a Submarine with 6 or 8 other people.
The only privacy you get is in your bunk or the occasional hotel room.
I became a Trucker because you have your own world living in the Truck.
Which is very peaceful and not to stressful.
I pay zero attention to critic score on Rotten Maters. They’re 100% driven by money/politics. Audience score is all that matters and 86 is a really good score.
Seemed fun, but I can definitely see why it only lasted one season. And no matter what the marketing says, you can never go into something that's not explicitly a documentary expecting it to be an accurate representation. Marketers lie. About everything. It's pointless to ever take a statement like that at face value, there's artistic license in everything. Even band of brothers changed stuff everyone knew about to make the series work better.
I meant to watch this show back then but never got around to it.Based on what I've seen here, I think I'll pass. Thanks or the review.
I really don't like the attitude towards opening acts. Of course you can't always be on schedule and the headliner is a priority when soundcheck time is very short. But if the headliners are just being assholes the opening act's manager should have every right to be mad. The other bands and their crew are also there to do their job.
It can also be a really bad thing for the opening act if people think they suck because they sound and look bad after being pushed around, not being able to sound check, setup the stage and gear properly etc.
I lived the show thought it was very entertaining
I was SO excited for this show, and I was SO disappointed when I watched it.
I suggest you watch this show just for yourself and if theres anything special you wanna talk about... let us know.
Anything with Carla Gugino is right.....
I totally forgot about jars of clay, then as I listened to lift me up and looking at all the comments by religious nuts saying that they were former drug addicts but that song supposedly lead them back to religion. Honestly if the entire fan base was religious nuts and FORMER druggies then I can see why they gave up and disappeared.
I have to add one thing: I like this show despite the fact that, imho, Luke Wilson is a complete miscast. This guy shold have spent half his life in the touring business? I don't buy it. Way too slick, way too pretty, type mother-in-laws darling. Noah Taylor, the road manager "Dick" in Almost Famous was way more credible...
Today I learned that Showtime adds sex and violence to its TV shows. 😮
You are there to do a job, if you want to have fun go work at Starbucks.
Hey Tank here's your Extra Grande
Double Mocha with whip Cream and chocolate sprinkles.
Don't forget your Non GMO Banana Nut Bread.
And it's all served on 80% reclaimed garbage paper, So you don't destroy the planet all by yourself !!!!
Tank, dont waste your time on my account with this show.
As a show, that looked painful to watch
Apparently cameron crow was an asshole on the tour almost famous is based on. The band didn't like him because he was pretentious. Makes the whole movie feel fake to me. Like it was just a way for crow to pat himself on the back and make himself look cooler than he ever was.
lets discuss the elephant in the room that no one is saying for political correctness reason. There are rarely any female roadies. at least ones that do actual physical labor. I have seen many women traveling with the bands but they are usually girlfriends/wives or groupies . there may be actual female roadies here and there but they are statistically insignificant.
Tank buddy, have you seen the lineup for the 2024 sick new world festival here in Vegas??? Man let me know if your working it, it would be cool too hang out, I know you don't drink but, we could figure it out.....on me buddy, for all the great entertainment you give to all of us.