burned clutch Honda CB500X with only 1.700 kilometers
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- in a month and 1.700 kilometers only, I got an oil leak and now a burnt clutch. For sure, I don't use it for Starbucks ride, but I was expecting a bit more, I like adventure bikes for their versatility. After my Kawasaki Versys 250cc, Two Kove MV500 (Hunter Maverick 500cc in Indonesia) I was expecting to use and abuse my new Honda CB500X the same way I used the previous ones, well I found her limit, learned my lesson and will be more careful in the future.
it took 5 minutes from 9h43 to 9h48 ( you can see time on my phone) of hard-core clutch use to destroy it, I was expecting more.
Honda Big Wings Bali offered me to pass it under warranty as it is unusual wear, but it would have immobilized my bike for a month or so, so I took on pay the change of the clutch so they could put it back on the road in 24 hours, great service and great attitude from the dealer 👍
Mine's fine after 18k km. The only difference is I actually use first gear.
You said you had a versys, that one likes to rev, so why not use first gear and rev this one up as you should?
After my Versys, and before this CB500X, I had 2 Kove MV500 that are using the copy of this engine, the 471cc parallel Twin made by Loncin, and I've been in the same track using second gear to avoid wheel spinning, the torque at low rpm being enough on these engine, I was surprised that the Chinese copy of this engine could take more clutch use, and that the Honda couldn't.
Now the slipper-clutch could be the culprit as the Chinese bikes were using conventional clutch.
Just weird that I could abuse clutch on Chinese bike and not on Honda.
@@Buledoyanmotor You might be onto something there with the slipper clutch: the Loncin might use stronger springs and you probably coupled the clutch completely without realizing, therefore slipping it less.
But even so, I am honestly telling you I also use mine off road and use the clutch a lot, but in the first gear, and didn't have any problem so far. The clutch is not showing any signs of burning out. So I'm not sure the Honda cannot take the abuse, maybe it's just different (slipper clutch, probably different gear ratio?) .
@bogdan1207 well I never saw a clutch burning completely in 5 minutes of use
Came over from the CB500x group on Facebook to take a look at your vlog. I’d 100% say the problem of the burned out clutch is self inflicted. You spend way too much time riding (slipping) the clutch. The clutch should be either fully out or fully in. You can’t blame Honda for your application. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I think you are right, and I was pushing it way too much. I found the limits of that clutch and will learn from my mistakes. Thank you for your comment.
Between 1st and 2nd gear, which is more likely to get burn more?
One thing is sure, I should have noticed before that something was going wrong, then I could have avoided it. Well, I will fix it and see if it happens again or not
2nd
Too bad this happened to your bike but from what I've seen you often ride single track which probably requires to use the clutch very often...I've done quite a bit of offroading with my bike but no clutch issues so far 🤞🤞
Yup too bad indeed, I never saw a clutch giving up so fast, let's see the point of view of the mechanic when they will open it, I like this engine very much but if it can't be versatile for going wild on the weekend then I do have an pickle.
I like to consider adventure bikes like swiss knives, and I like to use them in every situation, trying to find their limits and mine. Well, I think I was pushing it too much, and I found the limit of that clutch, lesson learned, and I will think twice to bring it again in single tracks.
@@Buledoyanmotor to be honest, I think you've had just a bad luck and it shouldn't hold you off nice single tracks in the future. A lot off people ride these bikes offroad and the clutch issues are pretty uncommon. All modern cb500x's do have 5 years warranty so the dealer should fix it for free. I've had water pump issues (leaked coolant) with mine. After it was replaced under warranty, this never happpend again. Good luck!
That sucks, sorry you are having problems. I am sure it will be sorted soon, let's hope the Honda aftercare is still up to scratch, all the best mate.
The only thing that could make sense is bad clutch plate batch, there is no way this engine can't handle a bit of rough use, I had copy of this engine on 2 of my previous bike and I gave them hell in sand and single track, let's see what the mechanics will say,
two months no video my friend you are ok? hope you are well i miss your videos.
@jimakoszor I'm still ok, I've been active on Instagram, no content really to be posted on UA-cam, the CB500X is already reaching 5.000 km and we are getting used to each other pretty well now 😁
An enduro motorcycle is better for those routes, with a shorter sprocket ratio you can go at a slower speed and overcome obstacles more easily. In addition to using the clutch less, you are using the clutch to reduce the power of the motorcycle, which directs that energy straight to that component that was made for another purpose.
I agree with you, but I like to use my adventure bikes everyday and everywhere, I've done that trail many times with my previous bikes, but I guess that day I was asking too much of it and I failed, now let's fix what I have broken.
mod it bro,
- sprockets
- ECU, include radiator fan
- engine oil W50/W60
or, change to transalp :D
The transalp was the first idea, but they didn't have any availability, so I went for the little sister, sprocket I don't really need, the gearing is good for off-road, will need an extra tooth on the front sprocket for highway use actually, but for Indonesia it's fine, we rarely go fast, reinforced clutch plate maybe, or I just stop messing up in single track with it 😁
These days every man and his dog with a camera thing they are Chris Birch. Due to lack of skills and basic knowledge destroy bike and blame manufacturers for there incompetence.
And keyboard warrior at their Starbucks terrace 😜
Change clutch system with Rekluse X semi automatic system clutch bro
That is an idea 💡
Next time try it in 3rd gear, maybe you will only need 500 kms to burn it lol.
That's a good idea 😄
Apparemment le moteur fait parti du chassis
Alors c'est un point faible pour l'aventure
Je vois pas en quoi c'est un point faible, j'ai un sabot moteur qui est fixé sur le châssis
well, these bikes are not dirt bikes you cannot ride the clutch for too long. In loose terrain slipping is done for you by loose terrain, no need to use clutch. All you could do is change sprockets for more torque in low speed. On your video clearly you're riding the clutch all the time, big no no for heavier bikes and no need for this. Not bike fault but yours.
There is no need to change sprockets as torque is not an issue on that engine, been riding these track with my Maverick in second gear as well, same 471cc parallel Twin and never had a problem in 9.000 kms, I can see that my use of the clutch was excessive, and that I should have stop before to rest the machine, I will take the blame and pay my bill anyway but I'm really surprised that it happened so quickly.
try 10w50
That makes a perfect sense comment, more resistance to high temperatures
But Honda told me it will void the warranty, they use 10w30 only
sell it and buy again the kove 500x (hunter maverick) honda is not for off road
It just can't be, there is no way a Chinese copy of this engine can handle more clutch use, in that case the clutch plates are to blame, not the engine, I'm done with Kove (Hunter)
I wish to join your team
What are you riding ? Are you in Bali ?