Normal people vs. Victorian writers

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  • His character left no more of an impression upon my mind than that of which my boot makes upon the pavement
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  • @JeaneyCollects
    @JeaneyCollects  2 місяці тому +14588

    His character left no more of an impression upon my mind than that of which my boot makes upon the pavement

    • @rgal
      @rgal 2 місяці тому +450

      Okay, we have a motive, but we still need a description.

    • @Just-Creation
      @Just-Creation 2 місяці тому +400

      One etches itself into my mind, the other leaves prints on the concrete I walk upon.
      Both marks are equally faint.

    • @nicholasmartin534
      @nicholasmartin534 2 місяці тому +416

      Ok, I know this is a joke, but that’s actually a really good line.

    • @MarkD5678
      @MarkD5678 2 місяці тому +199

      Which is to say, barring rain or snow or any other sufficiently unwelcome precipitatance, quickly forgotten come sunny day.

    • @Tijnob
      @Tijnob 2 місяці тому +55

      Man was kinda mid

  • @blossomingcrow
    @blossomingcrow 2 місяці тому +21741

    Even Victorian writers can't escape the weather small talk...

    • @TheVnator
      @TheVnator 2 місяці тому +615

      Which makes no sense because the weather is always the same there. Bleak and smoggy.

    • @mathybrain8
      @mathybrain8 2 місяці тому +706

      @@TheVnator Yet another bleak, dreary day, the sky devoid of colour. When, perchance, do you think we might once again glimpse a single beam of that great light bringer?

    • @crimsonchaos7224
      @crimsonchaos7224 2 місяці тому +228

      I'm not sure if Victorian writers are capable of "small" talk.

    • @TheVnator
      @TheVnator 2 місяці тому +209

      @@mathybrain8 His lips curled up into a wry smile, the ashen strands of his mustache matching the dull glow of the miasma presently choking London. "If you wish a glimpse at the Lightbringer, merely continue with your life as you already have, you shall meet him soon enough, I believe."
      I could have sworn to have sensed a hint of brimstone entering my nostrils at that moment, but the sensation faded as quickly as the man's tired chortle.

    • @Eden_Laika
      @Eden_Laika 2 місяці тому +69

      Victorians _invented_ small talk.

  • @Phisilon
    @Phisilon 2 місяці тому +31208

    Me when my essay doesn’t reach the word limit

    • @jackatk
      @jackatk 2 місяці тому +1136

      This is genuinely good writing though- it’s not that word fluff that people usually fill their essays with

    • @Phisilon
      @Phisilon 2 місяці тому +288

      @@jackatk tbh, yeah

    • @Wulk
      @Wulk 2 місяці тому +569

      ​@@jackatk Nha fam I also do hit them whit the
      "With great trepidation, I must declare that the denouement of this sordid affair has come to its inexorable conclusion."

    • @stormtendo
      @stormtendo 2 місяці тому +317

      This is the behavior that I, myself, the writer, engages in when I am in discovery of the fact that my graded written assignment does not in fact reach the massive limit of as few words as can be written and pass the assignment in question. Perchance.

    • @aromanticfranziskavonkarma
      @aromanticfranziskavonkarma 2 місяці тому +112

      @@stormtendoYou can't just say perchance.

  • @JouvaMoufette
    @JouvaMoufette 2 місяці тому +22420

    internet people: dude was mid lmao

    • @IsYeaYesyup
      @IsYeaYesyup 2 місяці тому +472

      I'm pretty sure "mid" is used as something negative rather than average

    • @Subarubdub
      @Subarubdub 2 місяці тому +1814

      @@IsYeaYesyupHonestly it has kinda lost its meaning, it was originally attributed to something just mediocre or “middle”, but now people kinda just use it to say something is absolutely terrible

    • @hungry6677
      @hungry6677 2 місяці тому +465

      ​@@IsYeaYesyupdepends, in certain communities it is used in place of trash, for most it's like a 4-6.5/10

    • @_alessz
      @_alessz 2 місяці тому

      most of the time i've seen it being used it was just middle ngl@@Subarubdub

    • @Alpostpone
      @Alpostpone 2 місяці тому +313

      @@IsYeaYesyup You could say, of rudimentary intelligence and mild bearing.

  • @maximilianotorres8971
    @maximilianotorres8971 2 місяці тому +7443

    The "he spoke of the weather" line is DEVASTATING

    • @boiwifeyasmr4U
      @boiwifeyasmr4U 2 місяці тому +363

      Really a great way to describe a boring person. The definition of showing not telling

    • @meepbeep2464
      @meepbeep2464 2 місяці тому

      "Avid collector of dust" @@boiwifeyasmr4U

    • @through-faith-alone
      @through-faith-alone 2 місяці тому +20

      @@boiwifeyasmr4U May God forgive you

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 місяці тому +12

      @@boiwifeyasmr4UIsn't all writing "telling not showing"?

    • @elijahbarnes6145
      @elijahbarnes6145 2 місяці тому +106

      @@imveryangryitsnotbutter 'show vs tell' is a well known writing tip that suggests sometimes it's best to leave things implied rather than stating everything bluntly.

  • @My-cat-is-staring-at-you
    @My-cat-is-staring-at-you 2 місяці тому +4544

    That Vic Writer wasn't calling the dude average, he was savaging him for his mediocrity.

    • @DeusGaming-xh1nl
      @DeusGaming-xh1nl 2 місяці тому +64

      I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite since she paid so much attention to the little details about him.

    • @TumpalManurung
      @TumpalManurung 2 місяці тому +13

      ​​@@DeusGaming-xh1nlbecause there were no phones

    • @DeusGaming-xh1nl
      @DeusGaming-xh1nl 2 місяці тому +26

      @@TumpalManurung what does phones have to do with this? If your date was using a phone in the first place that's weird. I would walk out the second that happens to me.

    • @UmarMadrahimov-on8dm
      @UmarMadrahimov-on8dm 2 місяці тому +7

      @@DeusGaming-xh1nl How do you know it's a she? I'm not saying it's a he, but how do you know its she. Just refer to it (the subject) as victorian writer.

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 2 місяці тому

      ​@@DeusGaming-xh1nlshe? Did you just assumed the writer's gender? Bigot. It's 2024, do better.

  • @Haloguy7
    @Haloguy7 2 місяці тому +7138

    Perchance.

  • @aeronlangheim3462
    @aeronlangheim3462 2 місяці тому +7918

    I like the Victorian writer better. The first person could be describing literally anyone. The Victorian writer is describing a specific sort of man who's so average he blends in with the furniture and that's much more interesting.

    • @TheCrayon
      @TheCrayon 2 місяці тому +459

      But does not the averageness of the first writer's description punctuate the average nature of the man? I would argue that by describing a man so perfectly, totally, explicitly average, he immediately ceases to be average. After all, if he was truly average, why did the author remember him?

    • @axiss5840
      @axiss5840 2 місяці тому +638

      You're catching on to why Victorians enjoyed the style.
      It shows a command of the language qnd intelligence to piece it together in an artful way. Not everything was written this way at all times.

    • @aeronlangheim3462
      @aeronlangheim3462 2 місяці тому +460

      @@TheCrayon because that's exactly the point that I'm making. Almost everyone is pretty ordinary; but by taking the time to describe how completely and utterly uninteresting the man is, you end up with a man who's so ordinary, it's unusual and THAT is very useful and interesting. And it is that way because it allows us to more easily understand what sort of person the author is attempting to describe and make inferences about them based on people we know or know about who are like that, and that can serve as a very good foundation for a character.

    • @leobuana7430
      @leobuana7430 2 місяці тому +72

      ​@@aeronlangheim3462 yeah,the first one make you think of random guy but the on second It turn out to be an old men whose hair head already turn ash grey

    • @truthseeker7815
      @truthseeker7815 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheCrayon, big brain time

  • @kyleshultz5481
    @kyleshultz5481 2 місяці тому +988

    I really hate it when random strangers judge my shoulder strength

  • @Fr0zenEagle
    @Fr0zenEagle 2 місяці тому +3127

    When you need 200 more words for your 2500 word essay.

    • @Wulk
      @Wulk 2 місяці тому +90

      They got hit whit the:
      "With great trepidation, I must declare that the denouement of this sordid affair has come to its inexorable conclusion."

    • @gaysarahk
      @gaysarahk 2 місяці тому +32

      I mean, that entire writing style came about because publishers used to pay by the word.

    • @Ugh718
      @Ugh718 2 місяці тому +8

      @@gaysarahk Well if they USED to and don't anymore why are we STILL forced to write these essays regardless if its a thing of the past?Like why must our school system be stuck in the freaking middle ages lol?

    • @inwit594
      @inwit594 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Ugh718 It's to demonstrate comprehension, not necessarily because you yourself will need to write it. If you learn to read flowery and long prose you'll have an easier time reading for longer durations of time and, perhaps less intentionally, understand when someone is dressing up their language for a reason when they could say something simply.
      Politicans (of all types) do it constantly. So do older writers, as it to people back in ye olden times (fuckin' ages ago) long, drawn out sentences appeared smart and enchanting rather than annoying.
      On a lighter note, sometimes this long, drawn out sort of writing will fit very well. It's just people most of the time without context find it either funny or a bit irritating.

    • @deontaeavila3514
      @deontaeavila3514 2 місяці тому

      Essays are oddly arousing.

  • @Nightwalker-ed7yv
    @Nightwalker-ed7yv 2 місяці тому +1103

    I'll never speak of the weather again in my life

    • @frostmint3584
      @frostmint3584 2 місяці тому +92

      Yeah careful your Hair might get the colors of ash

    • @saikitonia
      @saikitonia 2 місяці тому +98

      Speak of the weather, he did not, as he feared the Victorian writer.

    • @Zvxers7
      @Zvxers7 2 місяці тому +35

      ​@@frostmint3584he might get weakness about the shoulders

    • @jonathanshepherd5515
      @jonathanshepherd5515 2 місяці тому +36

      What if there's a tornado? Will you speak if it then?

    • @greenhydra10
      @greenhydra10 2 місяці тому +10

      Would speak of rain of cats and dogs?

  • @BazukinBelyugovich
    @BazukinBelyugovich 2 місяці тому +2789

    I unironically love this style of writing. For someone to give that much attention to a person "of ordinary countenance" in their writings shows care and thoughtfulness in that other person. Plus, it reads in a fun way :)

    • @Absurdi5t
      @Absurdi5t 2 місяці тому +201

      Same dude
      It gives more depth to the image of the character

    • @SageArdor
      @SageArdor 2 місяці тому +117

      meanwhile my Freshman Composition professor at community college would have been like "this is all fluff, trim it down, and say more with fewer words"

    • @NotArtistic-xe8wl
      @NotArtistic-xe8wl 2 місяці тому +107

      ​@@SageArdor I can scarce fathom that composition in such manner could yield aught but the most unbearable tediousness...

    • @TheVnator
      @TheVnator 2 місяці тому +153

      @@SageArdor They're not novel writers, they're essay writers. Essays are going to be boring no matter what so you'd might as well get to the point. Novels should be fun to read, so throw in some fun fluff!

    • @SageArdor
      @SageArdor 2 місяці тому +57

      @@TheVnator ironic thing about my professor, he couldn't go three class days without talking about his "unpublished novel"

  • @BehindSpear-throw
    @BehindSpear-throw 2 місяці тому +5089

    Suddenly that guy sounds incredibly hot.

    • @DarkJusn2020
      @DarkJusn2020 2 місяці тому +524

      Dear God thank you for stepping forward on this one

    • @nunkatsu
      @nunkatsu 2 місяці тому +127

      Being mid is hot?

    • @titsarmageddon
      @titsarmageddon 2 місяці тому

      ​@nunkatsu when all you want is a quiet peaceful life, it sure as sht fkn is dude.

    • @kristyandesouza5980
      @kristyandesouza5980 2 місяці тому +906

      It is, and i'm tired of pretending it's not​@@nunkatsu

    • @Famousagentman
      @Famousagentman 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kristyandesouza5980Finally, I can be considered attractive.

  • @Ponera-Sama
    @Ponera-Sama 2 місяці тому +541

    "Wisdom has been chasing you, but you've always been faster."

    • @randomhuman5525
      @randomhuman5525 2 місяці тому

      “Get rekt b*ch 😎”

    • @zakariyajeffali6520
      @zakariyajeffali6520 2 місяці тому +25

      I think I’ll borrow that one 😂

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 2 місяці тому +3

      A *Sonic The Hedgehog* villain should use that one- _it'd probably zing over his head, too._ 😋
      (Eggman's not "flowery" enough in speech for this particular subtle jab, but I could totally see a one-off "side" villain using it. 😆)

    • @dr.consumerock6798
      @dr.consumerock6798 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@ChaosRayZeroThe way you type instills a primal fear within me, coiling around my heart and soul like needles to veins, a fear long forgotten breaks open a cold memory of a bygone phobia

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 2 місяці тому +3

      @@dr.consumerock6798 What, pray tell, is the exact quality of my typing that unnerves you and discomforts you so? Or dare I even ask such a thing, as any answer that you may give could very well terrify me to no end as well?

  • @watcher314159
    @watcher314159 2 місяці тому +784

    People forget that most Victorian writers, especially writers of newspaper serials like Charles Dickens, were paid by the word. While that did to a degree bleed into private correspondence, most normal people were significantly less verbose when not getting paid to be.

    • @ballsucker89
      @ballsucker89 2 місяці тому

      so victorian writers were quite literally trying to hit an imaginary minimum word count

    • @watcher314159
      @watcher314159 2 місяці тому +39

      @@ballsucker89 Not even a minimum word count. More taking absolute advantage of the prof offering unlimited bonus marks for exceeding the minimum.

    • @annimemeiro
      @annimemeiro 2 місяці тому +62

      Which ended up with one of the most famous writing styles. There are only happy accidents, don't you agree? 😂

    • @Adonnus100
      @Adonnus100 2 місяці тому +40

      Dickens is the biggest example, but you still see similar language (albeit slightly less flowery) in novels such as Jane Eyre which were published and paid for as a one-off. it was the style of the time.

    • @FirstLast-uj9ud
      @FirstLast-uj9ud 2 місяці тому +14

      Dickens is actually one of the few Victorian writers I've read that doesn't really write like this. His style is pretty direct compared to the more flowery prose of his contemporaries.

  • @tsifirakiehl4250
    @tsifirakiehl4250 2 місяці тому +515

    To be fair, a lot of Victorian authors were paid by the word.

    • @vanguardiris3232
      @vanguardiris3232 2 місяці тому +50

      Exactly. It would be fairer to compare the wording of a tweet to the wording of a telegram - both incentivise brevity

    • @monbub
      @monbub 2 місяці тому +52

      Really? That explains A LOT

    • @Draber2b
      @Draber2b 2 місяці тому +11

      Getting paid by the word was still a big think for many decades after.
      A huge amount of pulp writers, up to the 1980s were paid by the word.
      At the later stage it was something like 2-3 cents for word for example.

    • @randolphthesilver4245
      @randolphthesilver4245 2 місяці тому +8

      This explains so much

    • @hungrycrab3297
      @hungrycrab3297 2 місяці тому +1

      That was mostly true in periodicals and magazines, where it is still true today. The modernist movement is a way bigger reason for the change in style.

  • @kevinforget549
    @kevinforget549 2 місяці тому +185

    to be fair the second description really sells the monotony of the average person to the point that you can feel it.

    • @hungrycrab3297
      @hungrycrab3297 2 місяці тому +14

      Almost like writers deliberately controlled their style to produce a desired effect. And weren't just word padding like half the comments here are saying.

  • @HumbleAshe
    @HumbleAshe 2 місяці тому +564

    Normal people in their diary: “There was a weird guy at the bus stop this morning.”
    Victorians: (proceeds to write an entire chapter on that one encounter)

    • @reluctantcrusader8455
      @reluctantcrusader8455 2 місяці тому +53

      To be fair, writers still do that. They have even made a sort of subgenre of short stories about that type of encounter and how they are supposed to reveal the character and anxieties of the narrator.

    • @BIGBUCKS_moneh
      @BIGBUCKS_moneh 2 місяці тому

      Is there any kinda unofficial name for this? Sounds interesting ​@@reluctantcrusader8455

    • @Splicer-lb5xb
      @Splicer-lb5xb 2 місяці тому +43

      Writer: He was weird
      That could be a regular goth or someone dressed like a factory worker from the 1800's
      Writer: His eyes were lifeless and his hair was long and shabby; he raised his near fleshless arm to ask the barmaid for a beer.
      Oh, he's poor and inflicted with a disease, zombie plot point or curse, maybe a rogue wizard, a Faustian bargain perhaps? Infinite possibilities.

    • @dr.consumerock6798
      @dr.consumerock6798 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@Splicer-lb5xb
      The norm: A guy with cancer
      F∆ggin vic (or any other decent) writer:
      His skin stretched thin across his bones, deathly moans escape his ragged lungs of diseased turmoil; he stares longingly at the night sky, begging to become one with the stars.
      this type of writing is why I love to write so much. it allows so much expression and gives ease to the "show don't tell" method to books

    • @Splicer-lb5xb
      @Splicer-lb5xb 2 місяці тому +3

      @@dr.consumerock6798 You might enjoy Katherine Rundell's writing; the first antagonist's whole deal is looking normal, but she makes him sound an android infiltrating an Intelligence Agency.

  • @Vix2066
    @Vix2066 2 місяці тому +357

    I do so love wordsmiths of the victorian era. Their grim dispositions are extraordinarily pleasing

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 2 місяці тому +7

      I can rhyme and speak like Yoda and never had cholera, is that also enough?

    • @martinledermann1862
      @martinledermann1862 2 місяці тому +3

      @@houseplant1016No, you can't pick up a woman based on your intellect, you just need to look hot. She said she enjoys reading these books, as do many men, it has nothing to do with sexuality.

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 2 місяці тому +5

      @@martinledermann1862 "he who aims at nothing, hits at nothing". I can sing the poetry of Sappho and Catullus to her, let me rizz bro

    • @martinledermann1862
      @martinledermann1862 2 місяці тому +1

      @@houseplant1016Good luck then bro, I just prefer the black pill cos I don't wanna see my lovely bros having their hearts broken - it's called empathy!

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 2 місяці тому +1

      @@martinledermann1862 True you're right lol, but who knows

  • @many_lives4925
    @many_lives4925 2 місяці тому +129

    "He spoke of the weather" was the final nail in the coffin to identify any average guy lol

  • @KenzertYT
    @KenzertYT 2 місяці тому +311

    I can almost feel a skull emoji after "he spoke of the weather."

  • @joeym5243
    @joeym5243 2 місяці тому +208

    He reminded me of a meal consisting of a turkey sandwich and side of carrots, the kind of lunch they like to serve to volunteers at a highway cleanup

    • @Epic-so3ek
      @Epic-so3ek 2 місяці тому +17

      Why?
      Ok I understand now. It’s cause he was average. And so was the sandwich. Thank you.

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 2 місяці тому +15

      An organization like that doesn’t exactly have a lot of money to spare on free food so I wouldn’t say they like to do it. More than they have to. Really you’re lucky to be served food at all

    • @plugshirt1762
      @plugshirt1762 2 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@goldenfiberwheat238well yeah no one is expecting a gourmet meal lol. There are just some meals that hit a certain threshold of bland that it just makes you a little bit more sad. Bologna sandwiches really hit that mark for me as they’re so cheap and just barely hit the threshold of being tolerable

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 2 місяці тому

      @@plugshirt1762 yeah

  • @s-viper1462
    @s-viper1462 2 місяці тому +973

    Normal person: *gargling on blood because of chronic tuberculosis*
    Victorian Writers: stooop ur making me bluush 😩😩😩😩😩

    • @prismbunny
      @prismbunny 2 місяці тому +140

      Victorians: We're bringing sexy back!
      *hacks up blood*

    • @s-viper1462
      @s-viper1462 2 місяці тому +47

      ​@@prismbunnyI imagine they hack up the blood to the beat of the song.

    • @gothnerd887
      @gothnerd887 2 місяці тому +26

      In most gothic romance novels is it the man or the woman who contracts tuberculosis?

    • @blueredingreen
      @blueredingreen 2 місяці тому +9

      John Green has entered the chat.

    • @exosproudmamabear558
      @exosproudmamabear558 2 місяці тому +50

      ​​@@gothnerd887In our old Turkish movies usually women catches tbc because of love sickness unable to take separation from their lover withering away due to sadness slowly. It is a common troupe. Sometimes woman forced to marry another man or leave the man she likes due to some reasons and the man dies from "love sickness" after learning that. She learns this years after try to atone for her sins by looking after their orphaned child or some shit. So yeah it was a common troupe to romantisize tbc for some reason. Some say because the stress of a break up raise the likeliness of catching it or the blush it gives along with weak elegant lady image. There are videos about it in youtube.

  • @Stratelier
    @Stratelier 2 місяці тому +178

    _He was exactly like all the other guys. But he wasn't those other guys._

  • @galvanizeddreamer2051
    @galvanizeddreamer2051 2 місяці тому +129

    And this is a perfect example of emotional framing. In the first, there is merely a lack of expectation created, the guy being spoken about is nothing good or bad in truth, just a guy. The second ties emotion and personality cues into things; the guy in question is not just the absence of interest, but actively exudes drearyness and boredom. From a creative writing perspective, the latter is absolutely what you should be aiming for.

  • @snowvoredude
    @snowvoredude 2 місяці тому +86

    that's why we love victorian writers

  • @NikFromm
    @NikFromm 2 місяці тому +81

    It almost sounds like they’re insulting the character in the most British way possible.😆

  • @BritishBoy
    @BritishBoy 2 місяці тому +65

    Unironically tho, the victorian writer left a greater impression than i could have ever expected to gain from that "average person"

  • @LordCrate-du8zm
    @LordCrate-du8zm 2 місяці тому +464

    Writing anything in a verbose way makes it seem 100% more eloquent and well written, no matter how stupid. For example:
    "My friend ate Taco Bell and shat himself."
    "My dearest compatriot, who had been recently been consuming large quantities of the food from local fast-food chain Taco Bell, began to exhibit signs of extremely irritated bowels and flatulence beyond normality. His internal digestive tract and organs were ruined by the consumption of such vile ambrosia, and so he forcibly ejected it from himself in a manner most foul."

    • @DanilegoPlays
      @DanilegoPlays 2 місяці тому +44

      I read this in Jeaney's voice lol

    • @johnfsenpai
      @johnfsenpai 2 місяці тому +109

      +1 point for using an oxymoron (vile ambrosia) to emphasize how bad the Taco Bell food was

    • @yobob591
      @yobob591 2 місяці тому +52

      @@johnfsenpaihonestly I’ve never heard a better descriptor of taco bell

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 2 місяці тому +41

      Good heavens! *faints*

    • @RandomMaximal
      @RandomMaximal 2 місяці тому +22

      What have just read?
      I’m going to scrub my eyes now I think.

  • @simplyixia3683
    @simplyixia3683 2 місяці тому +71

    I currently work for this man. He is neither inept nor adept in his role. He is simply “ept.”

    • @meifennellysieu7510
      @meifennellysieu7510 2 місяці тому +12

      Underrated insult. I will be tucking this phrase away for safekeeping.

    • @Splicer-lb5xb
      @Splicer-lb5xb Місяць тому +4

      He sounds whelming

    • @macaronandcheese1811
      @macaronandcheese1811 Місяць тому +1

      he was neither misanthropic nor philanthropic. he was simply anthropic

  • @NuclearRaven13
    @NuclearRaven13 2 місяці тому +55

    Normal people: there was a scary monster so i ran away until i was knocked out.
    Victorian Writers: "Our every step unsettled the ancient earth but we were in a realm of death and madness! In the end, I alone fled laughing and wailing through those blackened arcades of antiquity. Until consciousness failed me."

    • @theloweffortchannel7211
      @theloweffortchannel7211 2 місяці тому +17

      "When my sight first oscillated throughout the chamber, encrusted by moist and mildew and yellowed plaster, my eyes have invoked a scenery most foul: There upon a distance of half a yard was an upright thing, slick as oil and black as the night, it's gaunt frame drawing correlations with those manuscripts of the bare anatomy which I had so digested with feverish fervor the fortnight before my examination, if the man depicted had been but the bones and veins, and a head like a hammer as woven onto the Mason's coat of arms, with four fingers thin and jagged like knives, and encased in a thin sheen of crimson vitae, the unfortunate owner of which lies in fragments like a careless feline's treatment of an article of fine china, or an infant dashed upon rock as written in the Psalms. The hunger of the beast remains, without recourse, and soon the daemon made flesh had flavored a new scent upon the winds, my own. Soon I was sent into flight as the rancor call thundered across creation, as though the day of Judgement had arrived, preceded by the bellowing of trumpets. I dared not to gaze further, a fiery and etherous bile rose within me as the fine roast I had so gluttonously taken part of now had decided upon enacting vengeance, to extract it's pound of flesh as I have this evening upon the dining table. Corner after corner, like some Spanish bull-baiter, save I had no sword nor gambeson, and the bull is the Minotaur of Classical fame, and I myself am no Odysseus, bereft of martial might or the favors of Jove, Fortuna had deemed it right to bestow a single blessing: A door! A door of white light! A sign in gleaming red spelled out "EXIT" and soon it came to pass as I cross through the threshold, my mind mercifully diluting into the oblivion spoken of in the Bacchanals as the fates awaited to deliver the final verdict..."
      TO BE CONTINUED

    • @valentinaraffaelli7291
      @valentinaraffaelli7291 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@theloweffortchannel7211I am looking forward to see the next part of this incredibly long essay about a monster chasing you.

    • @theloweffortchannel7211
      @theloweffortchannel7211 2 місяці тому +2

      @@valentinaraffaelli7291 Spoiler: It's the Kane Pixels backrooms monster

    • @slynt_
      @slynt_ 2 місяці тому +3

      This isn't even a joke; the second example is simply far better writing.

    • @levaniandgiorgi2358
      @levaniandgiorgi2358 2 місяці тому

      surpirsed nobody has recognised this as the darkest dungeon intro

  • @tlf2818
    @tlf2818 2 місяці тому +40

    Oh, that "average" guy became so interesting all of a sudden.

    • @monbub
      @monbub 2 місяці тому +10

      This is why I love this style of writing. It paints a vivid picture in my mind.

    • @J3D1D14H
      @J3D1D14H 2 місяці тому +7

      “he spoke of the weather”

  • @truthseeker7815
    @truthseeker7815 2 місяці тому +35

    That "he spoke of the weather" was priceless 😭

  • @Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.
    @Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. 2 місяці тому +116

    Now we need one covering Basic People vs. Lovecraftian Writers. If you think this pedantic and verbose, you ain't seen nothing yet.

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 2 місяці тому +12

      Normal People versus Normaler People when

    • @MrClickity
      @MrClickity 2 місяці тому +33

      Lovecraft Challenge: see how many times you can work the words "squamous", "unctuous", and "noisome" into a single paragraph.

    • @Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.
      @Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. 2 місяці тому +35

      @@MrClickity
      Don't forget "ineffable", "unspeakable", "indescribable", "unfathomable", "incomprehensible", "unnameable", "eldritch", "immemorial", "cyclopean", "chthonic", "hoary", "nethermost", "plutonian", and "antediluvian". Howard kinda overdid it with his bottomless glossary of esoteric exposition but, we love him for it; that eccentric quirk is feature, not a bug.
      You should read _The Parable of the Untimely Ancient_ by Taliesin Gore, or, barring that, listen to the audio narration by Ian Gordan at _HorrorBabble._ It's a charming homage to his vociferous verbosity.

    • @jayallman
      @jayallman 2 місяці тому

      @@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.
      Normal people: I met this guy, he was kind of creepy
      Lovecraft: It is only by force of indescribable circumstance that I am compelled to lay before my learned friends the facts of my case. Incomprehensible these may seem, but I know that only a council hoary with experience of the awful can comprehend the cyclopean enormities I have to relate without plunging into a plutonian madness.
      The man of whom I am to relate--unnameable let him be, save by those chthonic, eldritch intelligences in whose noisome favor he keeps with unctuous flatteries and unspeakable gifts--was presented to me by a common acquaintance, and immediately of his spotty and squamous complexion I conceived an unfathomable loathing. But greedy as I was for forbidden, antediluvian knowledges--the immemorial testaments of nethermost civilizations--in the end I put myself at his feet, and thereby--as I was to learn to my everlasting despair--into his power. Would that I had heeded the ineffable promptings of my nerves and sinews which caused me to turn faint and shudder on first clasping his muculent hand!

    • @1Thunderfire
      @1Thunderfire 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.People be sleeping on Clark Ashton Smith who was just as delightfully purple and was greatly admired by Lovecraft.

  • @firenzarfrenzy4985
    @firenzarfrenzy4985 2 місяці тому +22

    Ok but this is good writing. It’s descriptive and detailed.
    Whenever I craft sentences, not congee ones but a few in a series say to set a scene. I always ask myself “what else is going on?”
    I could very well write “It was a sunny day and I walked cheerily down the path.”
    But that’s bland. Show me the sun’s colours, tell me of the sounds of the winds, how does the pavement feel beneath you, what sweet smells does the day bring?
    When you consider making the mind imagine all the senses, you develop richer writing.
    And then like this post, not only are they evoking one of the senses already. Sight. But they are attacking it from different angles by rattling off attributes, and they even go so far as to arm their writing with connotations about intelligence. Yes, the show don’t tell is a bit lost on “rudimentary intelligence” but it’s recovered when he says “they spoke of the weather” highlighting just how dull and bland this man is.

  • @bluesrocker91
    @bluesrocker91 2 місяці тому +23

    I think you've actually just discovered the difference between casual conversation and literature.

  • @lyl14ghost
    @lyl14ghost 2 місяці тому +24

    Not gonna lie Victorian writers are the type of person we should all become. Even the person is mid, the description of the person sounds so much more interesting.

  • @bakutie
    @bakutie 2 місяці тому +25

    people will mock it but this case was perfectly fine writing

  • @Exist64
    @Exist64 2 місяці тому +23

    Sensitivity and subtlety are a gift.

  • @Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-db2ff
    @Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-db2ff 2 місяці тому +18

    I mean the second is undoubtedly the one that creates the best picture in your head, and more fun to read

  • @blueredingreen
    @blueredingreen 2 місяці тому +47

    "He spoke of the approach and departure of gases and of aerosol masses, the influence of gaseous plasma spheres, the hurried movements of electrons in the heavens."

    • @Blumpkinthehobbit
      @Blumpkinthehobbit 2 місяці тому +7

      How tf did you make the weather sound interesting

    • @omg9261
      @omg9261 2 місяці тому

      That's literally the first paragraph of Musil's The man without qualities 😂

    • @blueredingreen
      @blueredingreen 2 місяці тому

      @@omg9261 I never heard of that before.
      And, having now looked it up, saying it's "literally" the first paragraph seems like a vast overstatement. The biggest similarity I can see between that and what I wrote is that both are about weather. Not even the general approach is the same, as that's a very factual and specific description, whereas this uses much more poetic and general descriptors.
      This is how that starts:
      "THERE was a depression over the Atlantic. It was travelling eastwards, towards an area of high pressure over Russia, and still showed no tendency to move northwards around it. The isotherms and isotheres were fulfilling their functions. The atmospheric temperature was in proper relation to the average annual temperature..."

  • @CrazyBrosCael
    @CrazyBrosCael 2 місяці тому +11

    Victorian wit could absolutely roast any hardcore 4channer/Redditor to oblivion.

  • @diamondmemer9754
    @diamondmemer9754 2 місяці тому +51

    His hair was the same color as ash Ketchum the famous pokemons trainer

    • @glowcube
      @glowcube 2 місяці тому +2

      I was literally thinking of Pokemon Ruby, where the volcano has covered everything in ash 😆

    • @berpfulu
      @berpfulu 2 місяці тому +1

      This shouldn't have made me laugh lol

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 2 місяці тому +30

    That's actually surprisingly accurate and I actually really like that bit of prose.

  • @fluidpotato6129
    @fluidpotato6129 2 місяці тому +15

    First one didn't even mention that he opened up with the weather check

  • @gudavbourgas
    @gudavbourgas 2 місяці тому +25

    NGL this is how it felt reading Frankenstein.

    • @J3D1D14H
      @J3D1D14H 2 місяці тому +4

      fr tho

    • @plugshirt1762
      @plugshirt1762 2 місяці тому +5

      lol I was planning on reading Frankenstein later this week now I’m hyped

    • @davimag2071
      @davimag2071 2 місяці тому

      ​@@plugshirt1762It's such a good book. It's so dramatic and full of melancholy.
      It also has some of the most impressionists descriptions of nature that I have ever read.

  • @huhhuhhuh4069
    @huhhuhhuh4069 2 місяці тому +3

    He spoke of the weather. And sports, cars, and celebrities.

  • @Hydedearest
    @Hydedearest 2 місяці тому +12

    'Mr Utterson the lawyer was a man of rugged countenance, that was never lighted by a smile; cold, scanty, and embarrassed in discourse; backward in sentiment; lean, long, dusty, dreary and yet somehow lovable.'

  • @Rutvik2101
    @Rutvik2101 2 місяці тому +8

    ‘He spoke of the weather’ paints a great picture of his personality tho

  • @mcblaggart8565
    @mcblaggart8565 2 місяці тому +9

    Return to tradition. Write like you care, and you want the reader to care.

  • @ekkonus5719
    @ekkonus5719 2 місяці тому +35

    I'll be honest, small talk would be so much easier if it were like this

    • @satgurs
      @satgurs 2 місяці тому +16

      y'know, you could entirely just talk like this. nothing is stopping you

    • @panopre9426
      @panopre9426 2 місяці тому +1

      i'd like to talk like someone from a wes anderson movie, but i dont have the creativity, wit, and gravitas or charm of the writers and any of the characters.

  • @the_epipan
    @the_epipan 2 місяці тому +9

    Well, the Victorian is giving you a lot more information, he even tells you what he talked about and some thing about his appearance.

  • @JustANerd1010
    @JustANerd1010 2 місяці тому +39

    this is in fact: true.

    • @davidthecommenter
      @davidthecommenter 2 місяці тому +14

      this digital footprint of a reply, was in most fashion, blunt and quite unnecessary. it also agrees with the topic statement.

  • @SkyMarshalEmir
    @SkyMarshalEmir 2 місяці тому +20

    Suddenly the world has transformed into a planet with an abundance of attractive people

  • @b.f0rtun367
    @b.f0rtun367 2 місяці тому +10

    this is EXACTLY what reading a classic novel felt like💀💀

  • @gonzoengineering4894
    @gonzoengineering4894 2 місяці тому +15

    I just wanna say I really appreciate your commitment to not posting these as shorts.

  • @embertheunusual8036
    @embertheunusual8036 2 місяці тому +25

    You have to admit though, it's way more fun to write like that

  • @birberking6999
    @birberking6999 2 місяці тому +10

    Honestly forgot the word countenance existed till this video gave me ap lit flashbacks

    • @WhiteWolf-lm7gj
      @WhiteWolf-lm7gj 2 місяці тому +1

      God, AP lit. I don't think I'll ever get over octopus jesus

    • @user-nl3xw4gg7m
      @user-nl3xw4gg7m 2 місяці тому

      Normal Me: Bro, I really LOVED Lit class in school!
      Victorian version of me: Ah, young fellow, in my humble days as a schoolchild, I greatly appreciated and was extremely intrigued by my Literature classes!

  • @candide1065
    @candide1065 2 місяці тому +6

    People who could articulate themselves vs. post-industrial zoomers with dyslexia who can't write a 3 page essay.

  • @RadzMexicano
    @RadzMexicano 2 місяці тому +25

    "His hair the color of ash" really resonated with me.

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 місяці тому +6

    JESUS CHRIST, IT'S SO ACCURATE!!!! BUT i realy liked it, it gives you more details and a natural visualization.

  • @caileggedly
    @caileggedly 2 місяці тому +6

    normal people: he tried to make small talk but i didn't really care
    victorian writers: he spoke of the weather, about how the overcast skies ahead forebode rain, and tried forthwith to converse idly with me. i was stagnantly unamused, yet i allowed him and his musings to continue undisturbed, for i desired not for him to perceive me and my countenance as to be impolite and unpolished.

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 2 місяці тому +3

    *MILL ON THE FLOSS* reading it now - you just summarised the entire book

  • @Ratteni
    @Ratteni 2 місяці тому +18

    Ah yes, the sacred art of extending your word count!!

  • @bapparawal2457
    @bapparawal2457 2 місяці тому +7

    Victorian writer. That level of civil yet truthful roasting is what is missing in todays world.

  • @THINK_OF_THE_CHILDREN
    @THINK_OF_THE_CHILDREN 2 місяці тому +6

    "He spoke of the weather" killed me 😂😂😂

  • @melon5394
    @melon5394 2 місяці тому +7

    Victorian Eminem:
    His palms taut,
    Gait tenuous
    Extremities heavy
    There is abscess liquid on his tunic already
    Mother's Bubonic Plague-y

  • @raynmanshorts9275
    @raynmanshorts9275 2 місяці тому +38

    Bring back Victorian writing.

    • @RiRiRiPoks
      @RiRiRiPoks 2 місяці тому +6

      No it’s lame as fuck.

    • @epicnesssss
      @epicnesssss 2 місяці тому +15

      ​@@RiRiRiPoksBring it back, bring back context, bring back culture and meaning in writing.

    • @RiRiRiPoks
      @RiRiRiPoks 2 місяці тому +5

      @@epicnesssss meaning in writing? You mean stretching the sentences with useless and “poetic“ words that turns one simple sentence into a paragraph. That literally destroyed the purpose of writing, aka communication.

    • @fabricioantonio5882
      @fabricioantonio5882 2 місяці тому +9

      @@RiRiRiPoks it's not for everyone.

    • @1Thunderfire
      @1Thunderfire 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@epicnesssssBring back culture and meaning in writing? Sigh, the old "everything today is bad, not like in X era" again.
      Victorian writing has its charms for its delightful flourishes but also its downsides like taking an excessively long time to get to the point and Dickens in particular relied a lot on contrived coincidences.

  • @notsoproguy6755
    @notsoproguy6755 2 місяці тому +6

    “His hair the color of ash” well, i think everyone was covered in ash in that era

  • @AgentK-im8ke
    @AgentK-im8ke 2 місяці тому +5

    An elegant writing from a more civilized age

  • @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
    @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit 2 місяці тому +257

    Normal people: I fell over. Ow...
    Victorian writers: As my body galopped forwards, onto the ground, I looked in shock, as the height of my vessel seemed to shrink at high velocity in a way that may be analogous to falling down a flight of stairs; as I hit the ground, a beam of sheer pain seemed to radiate through my skin, eventually landing at my mouth, were it was excreted as a beam of sound, that could pierce even the thickest of walls.

    • @MiMiTheMemer
      @MiMiTheMemer 2 місяці тому +29

      Okay, but why is that EXACTLY how I write when making dramatic stories? Lol, I like to make the reader feel how the characters are feeling… or at least understand completely what they are feeling. Like, how did they fall? How did the fall feel like to said character? Saying only “I fell over. Ow…” just tells you basically what happened, it doesn’t allow someone reading it to EXPERIENCE what happened. That’s the difference. And I suppose it depends on who the story is told by, as in maybe that’s how said character would write. But if it’s purely written in the perspective of someone who’s either well versed in language or an all seeing narrator, then I’d choose to write it in a way that others can be a part of, or at least be able to see it clearly. But idk, that’s just me I guess. 🤷🏼‍♀️
      Well, God bless you… and thanks for reading all of this! 😊❤️❤️

    • @TheCrayon
      @TheCrayon 2 місяці тому +30

      Victorian writers would have used "ejaculate" like six times in that single paragraph

    • @AllegedlyHuman
      @AllegedlyHuman 2 місяці тому +14

      ​@@MiMiTheMemerI think the most important part of writing should be to have fun and enjoy yourself, and it sounds like you do!

    • @SovTheCherub
      @SovTheCherub 2 місяці тому

      @@TheCrayon As my body ejaculated forwards, onto the ground, I looked in shock, as the height of my ejaculation seemed to shrink at high velocity in a way that may be analogous to ejaculating down a flight of stairs; as I hit the ground, a beam of sheer ejaculation seemed to radiate through my skin, eventually landing in my mouth, were it was excreted as a beam of ejaculation, that could pierce the thickest of walls.

    • @PorcupineTheOneandOnly
      @PorcupineTheOneandOnly 2 місяці тому

      ​@TheCrayon He ejaculated a howl out from the abyss of his vocals like he hadn't before. The ejaculation echoed along the walls, causing a ruckus among the mice that lived within. He pulled himself up by his arms, but let out another ejaculating cry that would curse the gods in the sky for the limb he had fallen upon now torn and twisted, bruised and lame. He couldn't cease these ejaculations.
      Something like that, I imagine.

  • @matthewyeldig4608
    @matthewyeldig4608 2 місяці тому +5

    "Good Heavens, I only asked who the chap was!"

  • @zer0nix
    @zer0nix 2 місяці тому +5

    I like this Victorian guy.. More Victorian guy musings plz!

  • @drewsanvicente7137
    @drewsanvicente7137 2 місяці тому +13

    Perchance

  • @andreas_iced8297
    @andreas_iced8297 2 місяці тому +30

    Idk man, Victorian writing just hits in its own specific way. Not even going to bash modern writing, it’s got its own pros and cons and can definitely be done well. But when you’re in a mood for that old dark academia prose? The yearn can only be satiated by exactly that- no substitute will do.

  • @every_planet_we_reach_is_dead
    @every_planet_we_reach_is_dead 2 місяці тому +7

    I always found it hilarious how Victorian writers sounded like they were shading tf out of every single character for no reason 😂

    • @mslinda8456
      @mslinda8456 2 місяці тому

      And they did it with grace. It's like saying "Bless your heart" without saying out loud that you don't know what you're doing/talking about 😆

  • @benjamindoverson8909
    @benjamindoverson8909 2 місяці тому +12

    A lot of Victorian-era writers published in newspapers and were paid by the wordcount, thus an 80 pages long description of the street puddle.

    • @kostaspassias3815
      @kostaspassias3815 2 місяці тому +2

      "Brevity is the soul of wit."
      Victorian writers: I better not catch the mf who said that.

  • @JoTheJo93
    @JoTheJo93 2 місяці тому +5

    And now, the weather.

    • @kittycypher
      @kittycypher 2 місяці тому +2

      *Insert random song here*

    • @JoTheJo93
      @JoTheJo93 2 місяці тому +2

      @@kittycypher waitin for the bus in the rain

    • @user-nl3xw4gg7m
      @user-nl3xw4gg7m 2 місяці тому +2

      @@JoTheJo93Impatiently and desperately waiting for the arrival of the city bus in the midst of the torrential downpour.

  • @aino-kaisav5504
    @aino-kaisav5504 2 місяці тому +4

    I unironically like this style, it feels like playing with words.

  • @Loner_Ken
    @Loner_Ken 2 місяці тому +4

    I read a bit of The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde before... I can confirm they were writing absolute essays.

  • @bernardosantos8020
    @bernardosantos8020 Місяць тому +2

    “In the way of most men” is a banger expression

  • @ellysetaylor5908
    @ellysetaylor5908 2 місяці тому +5

    "Weakness about the shoulders" 😂 It's so true. You might never learn his age or hair color, but you will know some random fact about him that doesn't completely make sense and has nothing to do with his part in the story

  • @zeamays6207
    @zeamays6207 2 місяці тому +2

    Man, we need to bring back this style of writing and talking

  • @Tiosedan
    @Tiosedan 2 місяці тому +3

    "He spoke of the weather"

  • @caveirainvocada9438
    @caveirainvocada9438 2 місяці тому +3

    This prose style is unironically awesome idc

  • @Finneagan
    @Finneagan 2 місяці тому +8

    The victorian was unironically so much better

    • @xhesitase9729
      @xhesitase9729 Місяць тому

      sure, if you desperately want tuberculosis.

    • @Finneagan
      @Finneagan Місяць тому

      @@xhesitase9729 literally the only attempt at a counter argument you midwits have is "but there were diseases" as if that's at all relevant to the quality of Victorian society and culture and not missing the point of the conversation entirely. Every time I hear BS like this it affirms my opinion.

  • @lucidlemon9930
    @lucidlemon9930 2 місяці тому +2

    I will always write like the victorian writer because of they way they add detail to everything even when detail is not needed, its mysterious, whimsy, and beautiful

  • @connoromalley4004
    @connoromalley4004 2 місяці тому +6

    Old Marley was as dead as a doornail.
    Mind! I don't mean to say that, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a doornail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a doornail.

  • @bananabread3360
    @bananabread3360 2 місяці тому +3

    A good example of the phrase “What you have to say is as important as how you say it”

  • @ohwell2163
    @ohwell2163 2 місяці тому +4

    It sounds so much better I'm speaking like that forever

    • @xhesitase9729
      @xhesitase9729 Місяць тому

      good luck getting anyone to care.

    • @ohwell2163
      @ohwell2163 Місяць тому

      @@xhesitase9729 I don't even know who you are idc

  • @DeliriantPsychosis1442
    @DeliriantPsychosis1442 Місяць тому +1

    As someone who listens to history videos mon-fri 8 hours a day this is so accurate. Especially with the background music

  • @Unprotected1232
    @Unprotected1232 2 місяці тому +2

    The weather small talk got me so hard.

  • @elotkarloketh166
    @elotkarloketh166 2 місяці тому +2

    the "values" of all these beautiful words are from something subjective

  • @sumuqh
    @sumuqh 2 місяці тому +3

    “He spoke of the weather” 💀

  • @zeus-hw4nj
    @zeus-hw4nj 2 місяці тому +2

    bruhhh that is straight up crime and punishment, and war and peace

  • @MarcusZepeda
    @MarcusZepeda 27 днів тому +2

    I like the way that Victorian writers wrote. Back then they could talk about anything and make it like a whole novel. Or they can write crap about you and make it sound so eloquent and fancy i love it

  • @_Leprosy_
    @_Leprosy_ 2 місяці тому +5

    выслушивал старого русского генерала в орденах, который почти на цыпочках, на вытяжке, с солдатским подобострастным выражением багрового лица что-то докладывал князю Андрею. - Очень хорошо, извольте подождать, - сказал он генералу по-русски, тем французским выговором, которым он говорил, когда хотел

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 2 місяці тому +9

    Victorian writers are just like us, students that are writing essays frfr xD

  • @holyromanempireball465
    @holyromanempireball465 2 місяці тому +2

    "And yet for some odd reason I was quite Fond of the fellow's presence. Perhaps there was just an oddity about him that he hid under his small talk like that of a cloak. And indeed fate did have it that we would end up forging a quaint little friendship at the local cafe North of Tower Bridge. yes I do say he was a good hearted lad"

  • @RandomInternetStranger
    @RandomInternetStranger 2 місяці тому +1

    This was a genuine strategy for finals when I was in College. Simply theme your essay to be just a tad poetic or Victorian and you can vastly increase the word-count without (usually) getting points docked. I once doubled it with this style, very fulfilling.