Moments in Time: Billy the Kid's Letters
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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This week, New Mexico in Focus celebrates the state's centennial with a look at Billy the Kid. The Kid gets national treatment as the PBS show American Experience explores what made the young Irishman into one of the most legendary icons of the American West.
Beautiful hand writing. Proof of well education in the old time.
The handwriting in the two letters shown in the video don't match. They look like they were written by two different people. Makes me wonder if Billy wrote either one of them.
@@donnatodd7180 he was in jail and shackled while writing one of the letters. He even apologized for his handwriting. Not to mention he would’ve had a short amount of time to write it.
@@cherrybomb2527 His use of Engish is also very good which does not fit an uneducated man. I wonder how hard it was to just vanish after being that famous ???
@@jamesherold8655 apparently he was very well educated. There’s interviews with his school teacher and evening. And don’t forget that there were no pictures of him at his peak. His picture was released not long before his death. So it would’ve been very easy for him to keep a low profile while on the run. It’s very interesting tbh.
A settled Irishman could barely write back then, the likes of Billy definitely could, not write. The letters may have been written by helpers.
Billy the Kid was basically fighting the Mafia of the American Frontier.
Basically. If he had succeeded there would be no need for trump today
I love the excitement and love that this historian has for history.
Like no one can imagine my envy of that historian or practically anyone there when even just a decade ago NM and more than half of the West was not totally ablaze and out of water as it is now-and can only get worse, thanks to human driven climate change. My life long dream of retiring to practically any western state, with any expectation of safety, is literally up in smoke.
Billy was highly educated for his time. No one went to college and none in the old west went to high school. By his letters, one can see he's a good guy. Just don't look sideways at him. Piss on politicians.
A politician lied
You can just imagine my surprise
😁😁😁😁
@@barrysutton4589 Gov.Wallace Clinton
and he spoke 3 languages spanish irish Gaelic and of course english
I usually keep the picture upright when i look at him. Ill try sideways though, is there an optical illusion when its turned sideways?
Highly Educated for Anytime.. compare him to the youth of today. They can't even write in cursive, much less express themselves in the way he did.
A very informative, well- done documentary on a moment in history that has been recalled for over a hundred years and will long outlive any of us. May the spirit of the Kid's rebel, corruption-fighting attitude live forever!
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I must confess that I now have a level of contempt for Lew Wallace that I never imagined possible. As I have a classical education, I have read his works. Ben Hur bored me when I read it the first time, and it was only several years later, when I read it in French translation, that I found any genuine value in it. I think it was done better as a motion picture than as a book, which is rare enough. How history itself might have been different, if Wallace, who was no gentleman, had done the gentlemanly thing, and kept his word.
There is no reason to blame Governor Wallace for Billy the Kid not being set free. It was a district attorney by the name of William Rynerson who stopped Billy the Kid from being released. He was a close associate with the Murphy Dolan outfit and also the Santa Fe ring. If you know your Billy the Kid history. Billy the Kids boss - John Tunstall, was killed by the Murphy Dolan outfit
@@rickdack1197 While Rynerson- a known murderer- is indeed responsible for not releasing the Kid, he was subject to the authority of the Territorial Governor, without independence in the circumstance. Research has proven that the Governor had full authority to issue the pardon and overrule the crooked DA. And, it is stated by the man himself in his letter, his own handwriting. It was Wallace' deliberate choice to leave the Kid in chains and it reflects on the deeply flawed character of the man. His only desire was to finish his book and attempt to redeem himself from his wretched failure at the battle of Shiloh, which General Grant held against him for decades. To Wallace, Billy the Kid was a useful tool that could be tossed away when the purpose was served. No humanity, honesty or integrity resided in the heart of Lew Wallace, only inflated ego.
WOW ,even back then you couldn't trust a Politician!
Show me an honest politician and I’ll show you proof of god.
Love to hear the truth. Our ears have trouble hearing lies
Ron Paul ran for the first Pima County Sheriff he was Republican and a good friend of Wyatt Earp. Shibell a Democrat running for the same seat stole the election using check this out Ike Clanton and Johnny Ringo in San Simon supervise the voting booth out there and they cheated imagine that the Tucson courts made the elections get turned back over to Ron Paul
I’m guessing you’ve never been able to trust a politician
Beautiful video. The photos ive never seen before. Just awesome
Why am I and so many countless souls so connected to Billy The Kid?
Because we've all ben in smaller situations of being surrounded, layered by enemys (school family neighborhood traitor friends) and we were alone to see our way out too, idk 🤷🏻♂️
Imagine also how alone he felt, maybe depressed at times, a day or night could last for weeks before sunrise. Im dure he had some good favorite hiding spots he probably love and hated to leave and Billy had no idea how loved he would be hundreds of years after he's gone.
Like to go their and give him a hug and money to have something nice to eat and tell him sorry for the rough time he was born to live thru where killing was the only safety fr being killed. I'd give him gold to run and buy a new life of freedom some remote part of the country or in Mexico maybe.
i live in New Mexico,we have a Billy the Kid cosino horse and race track also a radio station called the KID, in Ruidoso NM.
101.5 the kidd
Way to goNew Mexico!!🤠🤠🤠
When you make a deal with anyone in exchange for their testimony or assistance as a law enforcement Officer or public official YOU HONOR IT . That Governor was a lower form of life than Bonny . If you loose credibility with the people you won’t solve a single case.
And wrote that book but will always remembered as that piece of shit in n.m
No shit
He didn't exactly lie to him. He just didn't have the power against the Irish politicians that were still running Lincoln County. So he said in the movie.
Maybe Governor Wallace was waiting for Billy to be convicted and sentenced to death. He might have acted then.
No Pendleton, the white cake with the sweet frost.
I see that movie jejeje. Where he said that to pendleton
Hahaha always loved that scene for some reason
Only a gen x dude knows this
I love Lincoln and the county, such a beautiful place.
infinightsky
Hey stick to the point idiot
Bryant Waddell stop looking for attention
I don’t know why but Billy the kid was the only person that really interested me in historical events
To people who knew him, he was The Kid, not Billy The Kid.
He had beautiful penmanship skills and punctuation. Smarter than most millenials of today.
Who'd a thunk
Lew Wallace dam Yankee@ rotinhell.com
I COMPLETELY AGREE
He had beautiful penmanship, but he, himself definitely wasn't beautiful lol! He wasn't a handsome fellow by no means lol!
Imagine him and Pat Garrett being able to see the world today
wallace after 140 years later everyone knows he didnt kept his word❤
Billy is the true American outlaw👍
Hi bob bye bob best dollar 80 I ever spent😂
Look up and see what you get old boy!
That’s what the kid really said to Bob O. right before he gave him both barrels but Emilios line is pretty great as well.
Wow, this was really good, and provided me fresh insight about the kid I didn't know. If all of the Confederate soldiers could be given such generous terms by Ulysses S Grant others for the civil war, a travesty which decimated tens of thousands of men, Billy the kid should have been pardoned for the relatively few murders, by most accounts only around six or seven, that he committed. RIP William H. Bonney.
Some guy radomly bought a photo of Billy The Kid at an antique shop...he paid $5...it was appraised at $1,000,000
No, ebay 10$ and it won't appraise
There is only one authenticated picture of BTK. I believe it sold for $2 million at auction some years back.
Typical politician not keeping his word. So who's the worse outlaw ??? The man who commits acts and wants to make a change or the politician who uses that man for his own personal gain and doesn't deliver on the promises he made In exchange for testimony. One is punished and the other is not.
I remember Paul Hutton growing up and always enjoyed the programs.
Billy was only brought down as a outlaw because he displayed family morals and fought to protect those morals. I am sorry but morals such of what Billy had was strong in the Irish / English heritage is more stronger than it was pushed in American families at that time. Maybe I feel this way from my heritage with my Dad being American and my mum is British ( actually not far in heritage from where Billy's Irish family originated from according to history) . His mother instilled her heritage with Billy on their beliefs . He did what he had to do and with Wallace not having it instilled in his upbringing as well, backstabbed Billy on not keeping his end of the agreement. I myself do not look at Billy as a outlaw myself, I look at Billy as a young man protecting his loved ones even if it ment death. A young man that taken his Irish upbringing to the Mexicans colonies around him in which they adored him as he adored them. I look at him not as a killer but as a young man who defended his loved ones and did what he felt was needed to survive.
I hate Wallace, I hate those who caused harm and went after Billy. I even hate the decendants of Pat Garrett today who stopped the justified pardon of Billy. Pat Garrett was not a hero stopping anything with Billy and I don't believe Pat even killed Billy. Pat was just a drunk who his family praises today. A drunk that failed in business and was just used as a escape goat " hero" for the government to utilize to stop the negativity surrounding the territorial issues.
He was far from being any type of hero and I would state this to any of his living relatives today, to their face in front of the government. For them to praise this idiot who could not even manage his own farm resulting in his own death how could he legitimately handle one of the worst small domestic wars in the history of the Country?
Billy was from Irish stock - not British. The two are separate nationalities.
I would not have thought he could write, let alone write with such skilful art. He has not been portrayed as having any such intellect. The truth of the past is full of murky untruths.
id sure like to touch the gun that is going to kill billy the kid
Considering his disadvantaged up bringing it would surprising if he was literate at all. May have been another inmate or guard who wrote for him.Would have needed postage too, not sure what a stamp or courier cost in those days, may not have had much money being on the run.
@@stevbehe he was known for his literacy.
Sometimes ppl were paid to write letters for those who couldn't read or write.
The handwriting in the two letters in the video don't look like they were written by the same person.
William Henry McCarty, alias Kid Antrim, alias Billy Bonney, alias Chivato, alias Kid Bonney, alias the Kid, was not known as "Billy The Kid" until a newspaper invented the name during the last year of his life. Bonney was his Scottish emigrant mother's maiden name. McCarty was her first husband's name. Antrim was the Kid's stepfather's name.
Edit: In the months since I posted a couple of people have told me the Kid's immigrant mother was Irish. Whichever is correct, I guess we can agree she was Gaelic.
I think it is certain his mother was Irish, McCarthy. She would be semi illiterate and unless Billy went to school in America, he would not be able to write either.
@@ValMartinIreland You have a real distaste for the Irish, based on your comments. Catherine McCarty was a successful businesswoman in both Wichita, KS and Silver City, NM. Perhaps in the Indianapolis area too, before going to Kansas, though not enough record exists. She was prominent enough to be the ONLY woman to have enough standing to be a signatory on the petition for incorporation of Wichita in Sedgwick County, KS in 1870. The original document with her signature (and William Antrim's), among the dozens of prominent men of the town, survives to this day and is strong evidence that she was an educated woman. She ran successful laundry and boarding businesses while Antrim was away mining with little success of her own. Had she not contracted tuberculosis and died fairly young, she would likely have stayed in Wichita and cemented her record as one if its prominent citizens for decades. Instead, with Antrim and her two sons she moved west in hopes of extending her life. Of course, we would never have had Billy the Kid had Catherine been blessed with good health.
"Moments in Time: Billy the Kid's Letters" is a brilliantly crafted documentary that delves deep into a fascinating chapter of history, one that's been etched in memory for well over a century, and will surely outlast us all. Here's to the enduring spirit of Billy the Kid, a fearless rebel who stood against corruption - may his legacy continue to inspire generations to come! 🤠📜 #BillyTheKidLegacy #TimelessHistory #InspiringRebels
Billy was very clever. He did what he had to do.
The legend lives on
Poor billy the kid. Just goes to show. Never trust anyone?
the king damn politicians never change.rip chevarto.
Was he not an outlaw though?
@@opcod2343 op cock a deals a deal and back stabber is a backstabber.
Not exactly, be precise, be polite and have plan to kill everyone you meet
@opcod2343 well he was wanted by the law
I love this! And I tip my hat to Paul Hutton, a wonderful historian.
Has his hand been compared to the man in Hico Texas who clams to be Billy the Kid???? That would be interesting. Because the gentleman had all the wounds Billy did. And could describe all he did with details.
He was the wrong age.He didn't speak Spanish or Gaelic & his phyz was totally different.
Brushy Bill was a complete hoax and thoroughly debunked by Author, and Billy the Kid historian Gale Cooper MD. Brushy bill was born in 1979, making him 2 years old when Billy was killed. Brushy Bill was illiterate, and mentally and vocationally disabled who's claim was latch onto by unscrupulous men for profit. That entire hoax, has done disservice to the real history of Billy The Kid and is shameful.
@@susanmccormick6022 Brushy Bill did speak Spanish, which was proven on more than one occasion
@@vicjockeydoesn't make him Billy . He was an old con man
Governor Wallace was too hung up with writing Ben Hur to honor his position as governor or his word. He did not care a whit about New Mexico. He used his time to get his book done. He and Pat were both very weak in character and morality. In fact the men who fought against McSween and Tunstall and Billy and the myriad of other characters in the Lincoln County War were crooked, evil men. It's hard to read about that war and events leading up to it because it ends so badly for the people who had some heart.
Cheri...yours is the most intelligent post I've read on this thread...and accurate...kudos...
Yes,well said Cheri.
Great video!……..👀😎👍👋✌️🇨🇦
I miss Billy The Kid.
You meet him ? Knew him personally
Nice handwriting!
He sure had a pretty hand write!
"If you can trust Jesse Evens, then you can certainly trust me"- Gov. Wallace to William H. Bonney. How'd that work out?
Wallace never delivered? He must have been a politician.
Or a Dallas Cowboy
Billy was pleading for his life and Wallace had no compassion. Billy didn’t kill for sport. Back then it was either kill or be killed.
I would like to buy those letters off of you, is it for sale and if so how much? I’m such a huge fan of Wild West history and even bigger fan of the kid
I believe those letters are a part of the state archives and would carry an astronomical price tag IF they were to be auctioned off...just sayin'...
Cheers
Typical politician. I don't care if he did write Ben-Hur. He didn't keep his promise either.
I suppose this destroys my idea that "back in the day" a promise actually meant something. I suppose People Are People no matter what age we are in.
Many of those letters are on display in the little museum attached to the grave of Billy in Ft. Sumner, NM. Very interesting place!
The two letters shown in this video don't look like they were written by the same person. It would be interesting to be able to see all the letters in the museum.
@@donnatodd7180 Love to go there.And Lees Summit.
Hey peppin i here you got charlie Crawford down there? Yes we got a whole bunch of them.(billy shoots) Hey peppin charlie Crawford ain't with you no more 😂😂😂😂
You really gona kill Billy the Kid with that Pistol?
"You know iron boy?" "You can bet your Spanish land grant." "He's a good looking kid. Likes to whistle sad ballads."
Historically YG1 & 2 were awful!But loved them both & Emilio was born to play Chevarto.I wish though JMV had been free to play him in Chisum,as John Wayne wanted.Again not especially a true film to history,but hey,that's Hellieweird!
We don't think much of Mr Wallace either...
If Billy the Kid wrote those letters they could compare them to known penmanship of Brushy Bill Roberts and see if the two match up to see if Brushy Bill Roberts really was Billy the Kid .
Brushy Bill Roberts was illiterate by all accounts
There goes the story of Brushy being Billy then. 😄
@@jamesjack6769 Not if someone else wrote the letters on Billy's behalf.
wow what a story❤😂
Off topic but, if you live in new Mexico what are some middle schools, highschools, and elementary schools that are good? Thinking about moving out there
On topic I'm obsessed with Billy the kid things because of Emilio Estevez in Young guns which is another reason I want to move out to new Mexico
Anything other than public schools.
We got a bunch!!!!!
I would think John Chisolm is more famous than Lew Wallace. Chisolm had a trail named after him that many settlers traveled and the railroad followed.
Partly true. The chisolm trail wasn't nammed after a scout that was half native. Can't remember his first name tho
Was the largest Ranch owner of land in that time.. wealthy af
Gringos, los felicito por la importancia que le dan a su historia, a sus personajes. Estos sujetos, no eran tan elegantes ni glamorosos como aparecen en las películas.
Are you sayin' he was purty?😏
Gracias por destacar mi comentario. Eso me honra!...
Gracias por destacar mi comentario. Tal distinción me honra. Y me faltó escribir, que esa falta de glamour, esa apariencia, sí se quiere tosca, es lo que los hace más genuinos, más auténticos, más interesantes. Pobrecito Billy!.......
I believe it's the kid. The chin matches as well as his Adams Apple. Pat Garret was his friend and how in the world could you shoot a friend?
Ask Bob Ford!
The letters were not read at all. Thanks for nothing.
Was Billy The Kid really an outlaw or a man defending himself,
I don't know, but I think he was both. Reality is always more complicated.
Really? You present this report with a too loud rendition of Romanza? I had to strain to hear the narrative.
Misleading video headline! WHY didn't the narrator actually READ the letters in their entirety??
Playing devil's advocate but those letters are written by two different people,
He sure had nice handwriting.
The handwriting in the two letters does not match. They look like they were written by two different people. Maybe Billy dictated the letters.
Politicians never change do they.
I seen a documentary that claimed done of the letters were pinned by the same hand we had someone else wright them for him.
It wasn't you who penned it, that's for sure !
Interesting video! And the volume is up! Thanks.🔫
The cultura peoples indian ?
You'res lovelys !
Fuertes !
Cassia sevilha RJ.brasil !
My 14yr old daughter is a billy the kid fan. Gigi bear ....
Wallace’s wife’s family was rich , She was an author in her own right, She hated hot dry dusty New Mexico She encouraged her husbands book she proofreads the book Ben Hur ect,
Lew hated even going to Lincoln even put up two bounties of 500 or 1000 dollars on the Kid
Sadly Billy only had Wallace’s word not realizing or even knowing he needed a short statement dated an the signature of Lew to make it binding in court , Sadly Billy left without the paperwork
Lew Wallace and his wife slipped off published the book became rich twice over and even traveled abroad
Leaving Billy with a promise unfulfilled fighting for mere survival in the dirt and dust storms of life clinging to a verbal pardon and no record of Lew Wallace’s promise Wouldn’t you of felt scammed
“Hello Bob”
My friend is Billy the kids Great great Grandson. His great grandmother is his daughter ...
Looking at the certified known photograph of Billy the Kid, I have to say that in my opinion the closest resemblance is Dustin Hoffman at the time of Little Big Man!
The music is too loud it should help the movie or video flow not over power it
What is the guitar music called at the start of the vid please
I like it, too. But sometimes it is too loud and makes it difficult to understand the spoken word.
It's called 'Jeux Interdits', which means 'Forbidden Games' in French. It is taken from a movie (adapted from a book) whose plot is somehow related to treason towards a kid... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Games It's a perfect choice, and it made me shed tears... That's one of the few melodies I used to play on a classic guitar...
So. Has anyone done a handwriting comparison from known writing of Billy the kid and Brushy Bill Roberts??
Why bother ? Two different people
I am related to one of billy the kids best best friends
Don't you mean 'pals'?
@@Sporkmaker5150 Its hard being Pals ! Charlie Bowdry
Excellent penmanship from a 21 year old in the 1880's with probably not much formal education. They don't even teach cursive writing in school anymore. And politicians haven't changed much from 1880 either.
Billy could not have written that, he got someone to write it for him.
Did he actually write them though???
BILLY THE KID, WAS OBVIOUSLY A GOOD MAN & WAS ATTACKED BY THE WEALTHY!
That's how you write with your hand. What is he supposed to write with his feet..
Why did the letters have two completely different handwriting styles on them?? I don't get it. Did someone write one for him?
Todd Balyeat No, the Kid wrote both of them. But the second one he was forced to write with his handcuffs on. They kept him shackled day and night pretty much from the moment he was captured until he escaped.
@@adamhannon7656 so all that has to be done is to compare Billy the Kid letters to Brushy Bills handwriting right?
B. Billy Robert did not write to Governor, but W.H. Bonney did. Pat G. knew both W.H. Bonney and B. Billy Robert, but why did Pat killed W H Bonney instead of B. Billy Robert. This situation did not make any sense. This is something we need to find out.
Wallace was scared shitless of the kid as he should've been, just wish the kid would've took him out
I should've dusted his Excellency's regal ass when I had the opportunity.
irish always rule
Except Northern Ireland (Ulster)😅😅😆
Billy's letters, more than anything, show we don't know half the story about him. Nothing the stories tell us explain his beautifully, intelligently written letters. BUT if you want to change that you can read the book Billy the Kid Identity Revealed. I KNOW I KNOW blahhh blahhhh it's some guy trying to claim.... NO! Read the book! Billy's real last name was Roberts. The woman people say was his mother was actually his aunt. The author of this book took the "claims" or the "stories" William Henry Roberts told in 1950 and researched ALL of them. The lawyer in 1950 took Roberts story and then took it to the governor. It WAS NOT POSSIBLE back then to fact check his story! NOW, it is. Why? Now we have museums! Now facts have been drawn out. His letters are on display in museums. Records have been dug up. Records that were not known in 1950 are now dug up and on display in museums, letters Billy wrote are NOW on display in museums when they were NOT in 1950! Photographs are known now that were not in 1950!
Why does that matter? Bill gave his story RECORDED in 1950. At that time he gave facts and exact wording in his letters that were not on display or known in 1950! He gave facts that could not be checked. There was no record. YEARS later documents were dug up in court house basements that back Bills story TO THE WORD!! Bill explained what happened with deputy Bell. How he killed him and the bullet hole in the wall. This has always been fuzzy. No one can seem to tell a story where each piece matches. Bill told the story. The pieces matched. How well? To the point that in the early 2000's I believe it was, boards were pulled up in that court house and underneath was scanned with a light that shows where blood was. That light shows a large pool of blood under the initial floor boards at the top of the steps that matches ONLY Bills story of what happened with Bell! He is the only man to tell that story that makes every piece fit!
He fully explains what happened the night "he" was killed. It was a biy named Billy Barlow who was Mexican. This is HUGE because it explains Pat Garrets story which is REDICULOUS!!! To anybody who reads his version of that night in his book...………….it does not add up!! It doesn't make sense!! Garret was questioned about it the rest of his life. He changed his story EVERY time he told it!!! TO THE DEGREE that in some versions it was a "hot dark night" yet, in other versions there was 4 inches of hard packed snow on the ground!!!
Think about this!! Pretend this is you. You were home one night. A burglar breaks in with a gun! Desperate for drugs! Thinks the house is empty. You are waken! You hear him! He is coming down the hall, your in bead and have your gun. He slings the door open and your forced to fire!! You shoot and kill the armed robber to protect your family! You have no choice! If I were your high school buddy and I run into you in a store and ask you about it 6 months later would you forget? NO!! You would remember every detail!! Now, that's the same as Pat Garret, but it's similar!! Six months later he can't remember the details!!!! Doesn't that seem weird???
His own deputy's took one look at the body and said "Pat, that's not him, you shot the wrong person Pat!!!" His deputy's knew it wasn't Billy right away because the body was Billy Barlow like Bill Roberts said. Billy Barlow was Mexican, he was dark skinned. He also had a beard. Billy the Kid was Irish. He had pale white skin. He had NO FACIAL HAIR!! Thus, he is called the kid!
Billy the Kid WAS shot that night escaping. He was shot in the shoulder after Billy Barlow was killed. Fast forward some hours. Billy escapes to San Patricio. I am sure I spelled that wrong. They had a census in the town. How do we know Bill Roberts story about this is true? We have the records! Only two white men lived in the town. One man was...…….I believe 46 years old BUT don't hold me to it. The other white man in the town, listed as 22, is noted as not being there physically for the census. Why? He is listed in the records as being "home sick with a gun shot wound!"" Bill Roberts tells all of this in 1950 at a time when there are no documents to prove ANYTHING he said!!!! The documents are found over FIFTY YEARS after he died!!!
What else? The lawyer on a spur, as they were talking pulled the same old style cuffs out of his bag and asked Bill to slip out of them. Bill, at over 90 years old put out his arms, let him slap them on, and slipped them off with little effort! BUT not from huge wrists! It was from his thumbs! He was able to basically, dislocate them and scoot them over making his hands small enough to slip them off!
When the lawyer drove Bill in front of the courthouse in 1950 where he escaped all those years back, he explained how the front of the courthouse is not the same. NOW we have records showing construction to the front of the courthouse! Bill was right!!
Look at the KNOWN photo of Billy the Kid. What do you see on his pinky? A bandage. You see the same bandage everybody else sees. EXCEPT...……...that's not a bandage as Bill corrects. That is what was then called a "gamblers ring!" Billy the Kid was a known poker player. Known to be good at it. It was not known that is a gamblers ring in the photo! How could Bill Roberts prove it? He had other photographs of himself wearing the same ring years later! Billy had that ring for years and years. And he had pictures of himself wearing the ring to prove it!!
THE BEST EVIDENCE BILL ROBERTS HAD IS THIS!! In 1950 there were 5 people known beyond a doubt...…...NEVER argued by anyone!!!! These 5 people ALL knew Billy The Kid and could be proven to live in Fort Sumner New Mexico WHEN Billy was there! No one has EVER disagreed that these people knew Billy the Kid! ALL 5 people met Bill Roberts. ALL 5 people signed sworn statements that Bill Roberts is Billy the Kid!!! They met him, sat and talked for a couple hours one at a time and all signed sworn statements he WAS Billy the Kid and was NOT lying about who he was!! The book has a ton of stuff I left out.
tom thorn then why not now a days use d n a to prove this ?Billy had kins folk still living.
@@freedmm3122There is one test we could do right now to prove it beyond any doubt. Why don't we do it? Well, we could do a DNA test on Brushy and Catherine McCarty to prove they are related. That would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt Brushy was Billy. Why don't we do it? The people of Fort Sumner New Mexico, where Billy is supposed to be buried go to court every time and stop it! They even stop a test on the body of a woman who is not buried in Fort Sumner New Mexico! Why? What are they afraid of? They spend millions of dollars to stop ANY kind of DNA test from being done! Brushy left it in his will that they can pull up his body and perform any scientific test they want to prove he was Billy. He gave full and complete permission to perform tests. Fort Sumner fights ANY KIND of test no matter what it is. Sound fishy? Billy the Kid has no other KNOWN family other than Catherine Antrim that we can do a DNA test against. We could also pull up the remains of the body buried somewhere near the grave and a DNA test will show a Mexican American 18 year old male is buried there. Fort Sumner will not allow that either. Now that would take time because even the people in Fort Sumner will tell you they guessed with the grave. They don't really know exactly where the body was buried. Even then it was most likely washed away in the bad flood they had years back.
@@tomthorn2887
Goodness.
You're a long-winded windbag.
Author por favor.
Wallace was in disgrace, actually, after the war. It's why he drew such a tough assignment in the NM territory.
How did these letters survive? Did Wallace not chunk them into the fire?
Obviously he didn't
Please read the letters and let Kid Antrim speak for himself. Thanks, I read what I could by pausing your video. Nice effort regardless.
Gene Grant looks a little frightening to me. His stare through his glasses....
By the way, his hand writing were very good. He must be better than me.
The letter he wrote is the only way o approve that he was Billy the Kid and no one else wasn't him including Bruchy Billy. Bruch Billy's handwriting was not matched William H. Bonney's hand write, so this boy is really Billy the Kid.
Two different people . One real and one a fake !
Has anyone had a handwriting expert examine these letters? They totally look like they were written by two different people . . . but I'm no expert.
I read that he was not shot by Pat after all and lived to a ripe old age.
Must be true then if you read it
Billy was rustling cattle while he was writing letters. He had months to escape to Mexico while Garrett dragged his feet looking for him. He should have left when he had the chance. Garrett only reluctantly went looking for him since everyone knew he was in Fort Sumner. Billy was asking for it.
I think it's because he had been homeless for so long & now felt he had his nitch & was reluctant to leave it.
@@susanmccormick6022 Yes. he had become the leader of the Regulators and longed for those times again. All his friends were dead or moved away. He was also well liked by the Mexican community and made friends with many and had a girl friend amoung them. He must have been tormented about what his next move should be. Starting all over from scratch was his only other option.
I rhink that billy would never have kill these two officers when lew wallace had kept his promiss
I too am related to the kid, my grandfathers brothers sisters cousin was his brothers fathers son. Just wanted the world to know that lol. Smh 🤦
belly crawlin in new mexico can be dangerous
Why was it always the wild west... Was there no similar circumstances in the East or the North and south!
wasn’t he just a teenager?
A man is only as good as his word and sounds like Lew Wallace wasn't
It may be possible billy the kid was a girl. He wasnt a kid, he was fully grown but he was small, slender, sloping shoulders and delicate face. Handwriting is soft, and his schoolmates said he didnt play rough games.
There is a lot more about Billy if u care to see. Even if he wasn't killed by pat Garrett. That's another story
I love any stories about Billy the kid because I grew up wanting to be Billy the kid I played like I was Billy when I was not even in kindergarten with the little toy pistols and I would watch every movie about Billy so I grew up with him so now I watch every video about him, he's my favorite Western outlaw gunslinger and from what I've learned he must have been pretty good with a gun to have survived and I really believe Pat Garrett staged his demise. and let him go to Texas where he became an alias.
If only it were true...
He was a product of the NYC School system until age of 8 L believe and then moved West..
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And yet the irony that is unfolding today, Bonney was a martyr in his time. A politician will remain the speaker of what the people want to hear. giving way to the ignorance that perpetuates a system that will remain stagnant. What happened to George Floyd should not go down into history as something as a martyr, but as a tragic reminder of a system that is broken. It took me a very long time to understand the word "RACISM." For me, it was; "YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE, ... or you're not" In this perspective, HELL SHIT FIRE, I'm a fucking RACIST. I see too many in society that fit this definition that are of EVERY COLOR, RACE, CREED, or RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION. But I digress, W.H. Bonney was a true PROTESTER against the eSTABlishment. He wasn't on a payroll from a group that had a particular agenda, it's what he truly BELIEVED.