I don't really mind him coming back, but the problem is also that the character is static. this wouldn't have been a problem for a one time, or two time big antagonist that make little appearence, and is "defeated" a few time. but it become really stale after a while if the antagonist don't change tactics or undergo changes in any way. especially if you want a *horror* antagonist, that rely on fear. eggman and bowser can be badass and scary at times, but most of the time? we know those guys, we know what to expect from them. hey are not horrifying villains because of this "well known, even predictable" aspect. afton should have stayed more in the background. not as a secondary antagonist, but a overreaching one. as glitch trap, it would have worked great. instead of being a ghost in the machine locked in a single suit, he turn into a mass infecting virus of both technologie and the mind. having many "faces" as he gain many followers. his goal may become inscrutable because of this, his personnality may because incrustable, hell, even what he *is*. he become something hard to graps, and hard to pinpoint, not human anymore for sure, and that reinstitute the fear of the unknown. the one fear that is very efficient generally. he become terrifying because no matter how the story may go, he will be here, in some shape and form. he could return, as this silent and monstruous bonnie suit from time to time, a mix of fan service and alluding of him actually enjoying this form in a kind of twisted way. but otherwise being this unseen threat that loom over anything that it can graps it's influence on.
Dude if I was your teacher I would give you A+++++++++ for this essay. I also don't mind at all William Afton coming back. I like William his a great villain. Your idea isn't half bad. They could keep burntrap hidden and give him a good boss fight. I am hoping in the ruin dlc since the blob took him and he merges with it. And it becomes a ginormous rabbit with burntrap in the chest the amalgamations eyes purple and the head of funtime freddy as the tongue. And once we defeat him he gets out and vanny is still in his control and now wants more followers and create the cult of Afton
I think a better example of the whole “revenge isn’t the way” theme you brought up is actually the missing children themselves “The One You Should Not Have Killed” in UCN keeps William alive to torture him…only for Afton to escape and come back as Glitchtrap The Blob saves William from the collapsing FNAF 6 restaurant so *they* can deal with him personally… …only for Afton to take control of the Blob and merge with them into a giant amalgam (popular theory for how he’ll return in the DLC) The end of Ruin might be the missing children learning from their mistakes and finally letting go of their anger, peacefully moving on FNAF 3 style in order to allow us (Gregory and whoever the new girl protagonist is) to put Afton down once and fur all
i think that afton coming back in security breach would have been the best one yet, if they didn't do it in security breach if instead, sb was used to develop vanny's involvement and maybe a hint towards more mind controlled helpers, with nary a mention of the actual big bad in the whole thing, it would have felt like an actual reboot for the series then, the next game comes in with the forward motion of the glitchtrap army, and they're working on something big (this is where afton being brought back is called into question) it would wind up being a much more thoughtfully paced development, with much higher stakes because the plan wasn't prematurely finished and there's now a horde of people ready to do the bidding of a cold, dead killer
I enjoyed your video! I liked that you gave both sides of the argument, that was a great touch. I'm the type of guy that likes recurring villains or "archenemy" kind of things so I'm okay that Afton "always comes back" too.
They could have done so much more with Glitchtrap in Security Breach. They could have had him in this large arcade thing to house him. How he could be an actual threat? He could take 100% control of Freddy, and we could see him corrupted. He chases us through the rubble of the basement as we run into the shattered animatronics, corrupted Endos, Moon, Wind-up Music Mans, pits of corrupted Staff bots. All under 100% control of the Glitchtrap virus since he is stronger down here. We course some rubble to crush Freddy and set the place ablaze, to crush the rest of the animatronics, and when we head back for the elevator shattered Freddy makes one last attempt to get us. The Blob? It would try to get us at first, but it may realise we’re just a human boy and go for Endos or Music Mans, and grab Glitchtraps arcade when the building collapses. Vanny could try to get us when we escape the Pizzaplex and we kick her in the face so we can find out she is Vanessa in that ending. But we still make it out alive. This I believe could have made a helluva boss fight for Afton in such a cool way, making fans glad he came back. Though these are just my thoughts.
very nice video! i was not super excited about afton coming back all the time but i agree with all your points. the main issue with afton's returns is that at this point the games just don't seem to want to do anything interesting with him. I was super hyped for glitchtrap and vanny and how that would play out in security breach because it was an interesting different thingy (and i just like bunny characters who kill people) but we all know what happened there lol. if they bring him back agian they better do something cool with him!
I think it's down to execution. Bringing Afton back has potential to be interesting but it's just not built upon enough as is. But you're right, it's not inherently a bad thing that he always comes back. Good video, I really liked the overall presentation and your points made a lot of sense :)
It's simple. If he comes back, give him a big role. If he doesn't have a big role, he doesn't come back. If he's not here, let Vanny take the spotlight. And this time, make her appear for more than 15 seconds-
I love the idea of revenge never paying. Cassidy really needs to learn that, because as far as we know they're the only reason William is still around (one of the few things I take from the books as something kind of canon). I have a few people I watch for FNaF lore theories, and MatPat is actually pretty low on that list! The main person who started this even though they're no longer high on the list is ImpulseEvan_37 who pointed out that remnant (which William runs on at this point) wasn't guaranteed to burn or deactivate in fire, meaning that Willy A. was pretty much bound to return. I go by that, because it means that basically anyone else from FNaF 6 who was meant to die in the fire could return as well. Also, I want to go against the "it's ruining everyone else's character development" point: since the Afton Ending is likely the canon Security Breach ending, it means that Gregory makes it out alive. The whole of SB most likely gave him some sort of trauma, and also probably made him want to look into the history of Fazbear Entertainment. Combined with the fact that the Pizzaplex as far as we know burnt down after that, *Gregory is basically the spiritual successor to Michael.* Heck, he could find out about Michael through that research I mentioned. And if the point I brought up earlier of ANYONE being able to come back, Mike could return and be an ally to Gregory. If anything, William returning just gave Gregory character development and a possible future to his character.
I totally agree with the points you made here, great video! I gotta say though, I miss the early days of the franchise when we knew so little about him. We were just calling him the purple guy, and we didn't have any clues as to his motives (except the theories that he might be phone guy lol). He was creeper back then I think, fear of the unknown and all that.
great video :) my main problem with his whole "always coming back" thing is because... I just like that fnaf 6 ending. it's such a good ending, for everyone. (and then in canon William then suffers forever in hell in UCN). man if fnaf 6 ended differently, I wouldn't mind. like that ending could've happened IN security breach, yknow?
First of great video! You said this was your first sort of video like this and I think you made some solid points, and it was fun to watch! The themes of Revenge never resulting in anything positive is a really interesting one I hadn't thought about before, and thats an excellent point. If you'll forgive a bit of rambling, here's my thoughts on Afton as a horror icon: I will say as a massive horror fan, the problem with Afton coming back isn't that he does it, it's that he never feels like he's doing anything interesting when he does. Freddy (Krueger not fazbear) can always come back because as horrible as he is, he's extremely charismatic, creative, and talkative. Fans of Krueger don't get board with him, because they love his personality. Michael (Myers not Afton) Always coming back works because he is built and portrayed as essentially an being of pure evil who is fundamentally incapable of being reasoned with. An Unstoppable, uncompromising force of nature and all without actual motivation. And honestly if Afton had either of these things consistently, I think he could easily be as good a villian as either of those two. I absolutely love Afton in both Pizzaria Simulator and UCN because the voice lines he gets in those give him the kind of personality that makes me interested in him. Arrogant, a bit sarcastic, clearly having fun within his own psychopathy. Lines like "What a deceptive calling... I knew it was a lie from the moment I heard it, OBVIOUSLY... but it is intriguing none the less" Really made me like him. Similarly the FNAF 3 Spring Trap fits better as a comparison to Myers, a mostly silent hulking creature who seems to be mostly following an inbuilt instinct to kill, and this could have worked as well. My big problem with him in SB/HW is that he's neither the witty, arrogant British psychopath playing with his victims, or the hulking, dangerous unpredictable machine/human hybrid that is constantly hunting you. He's just kind of in the background and there.
ooh, the control thing is very convincing, though! even in his absence, he very much manipulated the course of the story MULTIPLE times. I mean, he's the REASON for the story even happening in the first place
It’s not the fact he keeps coming back, it’s that he’s coming back the same way and it’s stale. I completely agree. Why shouldn’t Afton come back? I’m fine with it as long as it was an epic and scary final boss like Burntrap wasn’t and I wish he was. I don’t care if he’s just springtrap but more destroyed. He clearly isn’t just that if you look at the design, he has glamrock endo parts so clearly he way being rebuild because oh, I don’t know his body got absolutely destroyed in the fnaf 6 fire and the only reason burntrap is a thing is because of the glitchtrap virus. That’s what I think anyway, I could be wrong. Why would they make the fnaf 6 fire seem like the most useless thing ever? It clearly had some effect on everyone involved including Afton.
I don't really have a problem with him coming back, but rather I have a problem with HOW they bring him back. I think kinda retconning the perfect ending of Pizzeria Simulator just kinda sucks, and if they keep bringing him back in the sense of "oh he just survived yet another fire again" then not only is that lame writing but it's just tired, and again, ruins the ending of FNAF 6. But if they brought him back in a way that DOESN'T ruin FNAF 6 then I wouldn't have an issue with it, and honestly they were REALLY close to a good and interesting way of doing so with Glitchtrap, making him some digital sentient AI virus thing instead of the actual physical Afton/Springtrap just surviving again was a cool way of doing it that doesn't really harm FNAF6. It's just that in Security Breach they seemed to kinda ruin it and backpedal that and just show that FNAF 6 apparently wasn't that effective or something. But it's not the mere act of bringing Afton back in some form that bothers me.
Afton will be back every game untill we solve Fnaf I think. Imagine if we won, the Afton is no more... And then just another random villan comes up and starts killing again
I really hope that the dlc is kinda like what matpat of how we explore afton mind but now seeing the hole mimic thing that is probably never going to happend
I fully believe that the original FNaF story should've ended with FNaF3 and after that Scott should've done a reboot where he makes William Afton a completely different character from Purple Guy, and its established early on in this rebooted FNaF timeline that Afton's whole motif is 'coming back' and this time in actually believable ways.
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Secretly the blob is actually working with him trying to help him escape the bunny pizza Plex which is why in the next one he was still be burn trap maybe…
I think it was Cassidy's revenge that was the act of revenge that "over writ" Henry's justice. They all would have been released if it was not for Cassidy and her bloodlust. Instead she has released a great evil upon the world once more
I don't know about the horror movies that you mentioned(never watched them, don't know the villains), but I can somewhat argue against bowser and William being the same. Bowser is there for the sake of being there as a villain. he doesn't have a story! but William DOES. had children, then didn't (lol), went ballistic, murdered a bunch of kids, escaped death TWICE(at the time of fnaf 6) and then was finally put to rest as a character in fnaf 6(or put in hell I guess haha). fnaf 6's conclusion was perfect for him. William needs an ending for himself. Bowser, however, doesn't need an ending, because he doesn't have a story to begin with. he's just there, a villain, nothing more, nothing less (still great video though I'm just showing my point of view here!!)
I think the key difference between Bowser and William is that Bowser from the get go was *built* to be a perpetual antagonist, with very rare occasions where he is assumed to be out of commission. Meanwhile with Afton it comes off as if they keep changing their mind on whether or not it's supposed to be the end of his story.
2:57 another comparison I wanna throw in here is Albert Wesker from Resident Evil Wesker was the main antagonist in the first RE game then he didn’t return until Code Veronica which at the time was the fifth game in the series when he returned he had such an awesome appearance then obviously he returned in the remake of the first game then he returned in a prequel to the first game Resident Evil 0 nothing to special just showing him before the events of the first game go down then you have Resident Evil 4 where he played more of a background role in this one but was still effective then he returned in The Umbrella Chronicles where it’s a retelling of RE 0 1 and 3 while also adding in additional information set during those games like Wesker coming back to life at the end of the first game him giving Ada her hook shot and showing how Wesker got access to Umbrellas satellite in RE4 while also setting up something big happing with him in the next game RE5 where here his plans go fully into motion and this game is literally his best appearance in the series he then finally dies at the end of the game with him being thrown into a volcano and shot at with two rocket launchers which is such a badass way to go then in later games his son and sister would obviously mention him a couple of times along with main characters like Chris and such then for some weird reason in the multiplayer game Umbrella Corps Wesker returns somehow? They don’t elaborate on this further maybe his back through cloning idk maybe they’ll do something with that in the future maybe RE9 idk but yeah.
I do think Afton could've worked in SB - but they should've changed him up. It's not that AFTON came back, it's that SPRINGTRAP came back. It's not new, it aint fun. Even slasher films add gimicks to keep their characters fresh. I see your point, it's just that we all thought FNAF was above Mario and cash-grab slasher films. :( The story was interesting and intruiging just a few games prior, in my opinion they need to kill off Afton in the DLC. Or they at least have to have something major happen to him and his role in the series.
William Afton has no control over his actions. Just like his victims his is drawn by his limited senses and emotions. He wasnt always like that since we can see him trying to save his son from the agony and make him somehow happy again. Even after Crying Child's death he wants to Put him back together - like Puppet Giving Gifts, Giving Live in the Fnaf 2 minigame. He is the one creating Golden Freddy - his putted back together son. And he havent started this. It all crushed after The Crying Child gets killed. Michael Afton is the one that have started it all.
I don't mind Afton coming back I just don't like burn trap he would have been in a modified glamrock boonie made to be glamrock glitchtrap and that would be way cooler design wise and make fore and excellent boos as you face off against a animatronic that has been made with the Express purpose of murdering instead of a lame sack with a 50 year old corpse inside
I do like Afton as a character but honestly him coming back all the time is getting pretty stale, I really hope in the RUIN DLC the new girl teams up with Chica, Roxy, Monty and Vanessa to save Gregory and the Afton corrupted Freddy and finally kill Afton for good. I think that would be a good ending.
This is what I've been saying it's not that William coming back is the problem is how they did it in security breach they didn't do anything the game was rushed and it wasn't at its peak if the game wasn't rushed I'm sure we would have a wonderful boss battle William is a creative and powerful villain that they could do a lot of things with him he'll there's even hints of him coming back in FNAF 6 in one of William's voice lines as scraptrap he literally says he knew Henry's plan all along he went in there anyway cuz he maybe had a plan or just knew he would survive he says I quote What a deceptive calling.I knew it was a lie, the moment I heard it.obviously, but it is intriguing nonetheless and if they do a boss battle it should show how powerful William really is I mean I like burnt trap the design is 🔥 but they can do a lot with it maybe we fight both burn trap and glitchtrap the same time or we fight him in our mind it switches through our mind and reality fighting him liking our mind we fight glitchtrap but in the real life we fight burn trap it's just a suggestion
I love Afton and I have no problem with him coming back. But holy shit, don't make him look and act like a pathetic old man who can do nothing right. Glitchtrap was cool and weird and disturbing. Burntrap is just incompetent.
THIS VIDEO IS SORT OF IRRELEVANT NOW BC OF THE NEW MIMIC STUFF IN THE BOOKS BUT ITS OK THIS WAS STILL A BANGER WHILE IT LASTED‼️‼️
You know if we do finally end Afton there should be a boss fight against the spirt of William and his main thing is that he heals hp
Purplegeist?
i think he could just have like 14 phases
No, there shouldn't. Bro needs to die 💀
I don't really mind him coming back, but the problem is also that the character is static.
this wouldn't have been a problem for a one time, or two time big antagonist that make little appearence, and is "defeated" a few time.
but it become really stale after a while if the antagonist don't change tactics or undergo changes in any way.
especially if you want a *horror* antagonist, that rely on fear.
eggman and bowser can be badass and scary at times, but most of the time? we know those guys, we know what to expect from them. hey are not horrifying villains because of this "well known, even predictable" aspect.
afton should have stayed more in the background. not as a secondary antagonist, but a overreaching one.
as glitch trap, it would have worked great.
instead of being a ghost in the machine locked in a single suit, he turn into a mass infecting virus of both technologie and the mind. having many "faces" as he gain many followers.
his goal may become inscrutable because of this, his personnality may because incrustable, hell, even what he *is*.
he become something hard to graps, and hard to pinpoint, not human anymore for sure, and that reinstitute the fear of the unknown. the one fear that is very efficient generally.
he become terrifying because no matter how the story may go, he will be here, in some shape and form.
he could return, as this silent and monstruous bonnie suit from time to time, a mix of fan service and alluding of him actually enjoying this form in a kind of twisted way.
but otherwise being this unseen threat that loom over anything that it can graps it's influence on.
Great idea!
Dude if I was your teacher I would give you A+++++++++ for this essay. I also don't mind at all William Afton coming back. I like William his a great villain. Your idea isn't half bad. They could keep burntrap hidden and give him a good boss fight. I am hoping in the ruin dlc since the blob took him and he merges with it. And it becomes a ginormous rabbit with burntrap in the chest the amalgamations eyes purple and the head of funtime freddy as the tongue. And once we defeat him he gets out and vanny is still in his control and now wants more followers and create the cult of Afton
God Damn you wrote an hole essay
I think a better example of the whole “revenge isn’t the way” theme you brought up is actually the missing children themselves
“The One You Should Not Have Killed” in UCN keeps William alive to torture him…only for Afton to escape and come back as Glitchtrap
The Blob saves William from the collapsing FNAF 6 restaurant so *they* can deal with him personally…
…only for Afton to take control of the Blob and merge with them into a giant amalgam (popular theory for how he’ll return in the DLC)
The end of Ruin might be the missing children learning from their mistakes and finally letting go of their anger, peacefully moving on FNAF 3 style in order to allow us (Gregory and whoever the new girl protagonist is) to put Afton down once and fur all
Wow, this is a great point! Idk how I missed it tbh but yeah you are absolutely right!!!
i think that afton coming back in security breach would have been the best one yet, if they didn't do it in security breach
if instead, sb was used to develop vanny's involvement and maybe a hint towards more mind controlled helpers, with nary a mention of the actual big bad in the whole thing, it would have felt like an actual reboot for the series
then, the next game comes in with the forward motion of the glitchtrap army, and they're working on something big (this is where afton being brought back is called into question)
it would wind up being a much more thoughtfully paced development, with much higher stakes because the plan wasn't prematurely finished and there's now a horde of people ready to do the bidding of a cold, dead killer
I enjoyed your video! I liked that you gave both sides of the argument, that was a great touch. I'm the type of guy that likes recurring villains or "archenemy" kind of things so I'm okay that Afton "always comes back" too.
They could have done so much more with Glitchtrap in Security Breach. They could have had him in this large arcade thing to house him. How he could be an actual threat? He could take 100% control of Freddy, and we could see him corrupted. He chases us through the rubble of the basement as we run into the shattered animatronics, corrupted Endos, Moon, Wind-up Music Mans, pits of corrupted Staff bots. All under 100% control of the Glitchtrap virus since he is stronger down here. We course some rubble to crush Freddy and set the place ablaze, to crush the rest of the animatronics, and when we head back for the elevator shattered Freddy makes one last attempt to get us. The Blob? It would try to get us at first, but it may realise we’re just a human boy and go for Endos or Music Mans, and grab Glitchtraps arcade when the building collapses. Vanny could try to get us when we escape the Pizzaplex and we kick her in the face so we can find out she is Vanessa in that ending. But we still make it out alive. This I believe could have made a helluva boss fight for Afton in such a cool way, making fans glad he came back. Though these are just my thoughts.
Hellava boss
very nice video! i was not super excited about afton coming back all the time but i agree with all your points. the main issue with afton's returns is that at this point the games just don't seem to want to do anything interesting with him. I was super hyped for glitchtrap and vanny and how that would play out in security breach because it was an interesting different thingy (and i just like bunny characters who kill people) but we all know what happened there lol. if they bring him back agian they better do something cool with him!
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I think it's down to execution. Bringing Afton back has potential to be interesting but it's just not built upon enough as is. But you're right, it's not inherently a bad thing that he always comes back. Good video, I really liked the overall presentation and your points made a lot of sense :)
It's simple. If he comes back, give him a big role. If he doesn't have a big role, he doesn't come back. If he's not here, let Vanny take the spotlight. And this time, make her appear for more than 15 seconds-
I love the idea of revenge never paying. Cassidy really needs to learn that, because as far as we know they're the only reason William is still around (one of the few things I take from the books as something kind of canon). I have a few people I watch for FNaF lore theories, and MatPat is actually pretty low on that list! The main person who started this even though they're no longer high on the list is ImpulseEvan_37 who pointed out that remnant (which William runs on at this point) wasn't guaranteed to burn or deactivate in fire, meaning that Willy A. was pretty much bound to return. I go by that, because it means that basically anyone else from FNaF 6 who was meant to die in the fire could return as well.
Also, I want to go against the "it's ruining everyone else's character development" point: since the Afton Ending is likely the canon Security Breach ending, it means that Gregory makes it out alive. The whole of SB most likely gave him some sort of trauma, and also probably made him want to look into the history of Fazbear Entertainment. Combined with the fact that the Pizzaplex as far as we know burnt down after that, *Gregory is basically the spiritual successor to Michael.* Heck, he could find out about Michael through that research I mentioned. And if the point I brought up earlier of ANYONE being able to come back, Mike could return and be an ally to Gregory.
If anything, William returning just gave Gregory character development and a possible future to his character.
Good comment
Good too but what about Glamrock Fredddy?
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I totally agree with the points you made here, great video! I gotta say though, I miss the early days of the franchise when we knew so little about him. We were just calling him the purple guy, and we didn't have any clues as to his motives (except the theories that he might be phone guy lol). He was creeper back then I think, fear of the unknown and all that.
Nice Video! I haven't seen your other stuff but I personally liked this video. Good luck!
great video :) my main problem with his whole "always coming back" thing is because... I just like that fnaf 6 ending. it's such a good ending, for everyone. (and then in canon William then suffers forever in hell in UCN). man if fnaf 6 ended differently, I wouldn't mind. like that ending could've happened IN security breach, yknow?
First of great video! You said this was your first sort of video like this and I think you made some solid points, and it was fun to watch! The themes of Revenge never resulting in anything positive is a really interesting one I hadn't thought about before, and thats an excellent point.
If you'll forgive a bit of rambling, here's my thoughts on Afton as a horror icon:
I will say as a massive horror fan, the problem with Afton coming back isn't that he does it, it's that he never feels like he's doing anything interesting when he does.
Freddy (Krueger not fazbear) can always come back because as horrible as he is, he's extremely charismatic, creative, and talkative. Fans of Krueger don't get board with him, because they love his personality.
Michael (Myers not Afton) Always coming back works because he is built and portrayed as essentially an being of pure evil who is fundamentally incapable of being reasoned with. An Unstoppable, uncompromising force of nature and all without actual motivation.
And honestly if Afton had either of these things consistently, I think he could easily be as good a villian as either of those two.
I absolutely love Afton in both Pizzaria Simulator and UCN because the voice lines he gets in those give him the kind of personality that makes me interested in him. Arrogant, a bit sarcastic, clearly having fun within his own psychopathy. Lines like "What a deceptive calling... I knew it was a lie from the moment I heard it, OBVIOUSLY... but it is intriguing none the less" Really made me like him.
Similarly the FNAF 3 Spring Trap fits better as a comparison to Myers, a mostly silent hulking creature who seems to be mostly following an inbuilt instinct to kill, and this could have worked as well.
My big problem with him in SB/HW is that he's neither the witty, arrogant British psychopath playing with his victims, or the hulking, dangerous unpredictable machine/human hybrid that is constantly hunting you. He's just kind of in the background and there.
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Good Video! Very Nice!
for me, bringing back afton CAN be a good idea. he CAN make others grow. he CAN have great motives. he just wasn't.
and it sucks
ooh, the control thing is very convincing, though! even in his absence, he very much manipulated the course of the story MULTIPLE times. I mean, he's the REASON for the story even happening in the first place
It’s not the fact he keeps coming back, it’s that he’s coming back the same way and it’s stale.
I completely agree. Why shouldn’t Afton come back? I’m fine with it as long as it was an epic and scary final boss like Burntrap wasn’t and I wish he was. I don’t care if he’s just springtrap but more destroyed. He clearly isn’t just that if you look at the design, he has glamrock endo parts so clearly he way being rebuild because oh, I don’t know his body got absolutely destroyed in the fnaf 6 fire and the only reason burntrap is a thing is because of the glitchtrap virus. That’s what I think anyway, I could be wrong. Why would they make the fnaf 6 fire seem like the most useless thing ever? It clearly had some effect on everyone involved including Afton.
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I don't really have a problem with him coming back, but rather I have a problem with HOW they bring him back. I think kinda retconning the perfect ending of Pizzeria Simulator just kinda sucks, and if they keep bringing him back in the sense of "oh he just survived yet another fire again" then not only is that lame writing but it's just tired, and again, ruins the ending of FNAF 6. But if they brought him back in a way that DOESN'T ruin FNAF 6 then I wouldn't have an issue with it, and honestly they were REALLY close to a good and interesting way of doing so with Glitchtrap, making him some digital sentient AI virus thing instead of the actual physical Afton/Springtrap just surviving again was a cool way of doing it that doesn't really harm FNAF6. It's just that in Security Breach they seemed to kinda ruin it and backpedal that and just show that FNAF 6 apparently wasn't that effective or something. But it's not the mere act of bringing Afton back in some form that bothers me.
Afton will be back every game untill we solve Fnaf I think.
Imagine if we won, the Afton is no more...
And then just another random villan comes up and starts killing again
I really hope that the dlc is kinda like what matpat of how we explore afton mind but now seeing the hole mimic thing that is probably never going to happend
I fully believe that the original FNaF story should've ended with FNaF3 and after that Scott should've done a reboot where he makes William Afton a completely different character from Purple Guy, and its established early on in this rebooted FNaF timeline that Afton's whole motif is 'coming back' and this time in actually believable ways.
this is great! good luck!
Super awesome video.
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I guess he just never leaves 😎. Anyway, would you like to see my R-rated Fredbear? I think this may be interesting for yourself as you definitely love Five Nights at Freddy's fandom
Secretly the blob is actually working with him trying to help him escape the bunny pizza Plex which is why in the next one he was still be burn trap maybe…
I feel like Ganondorf is good comparison as well
I think it was Cassidy's revenge that was the act of revenge that "over writ" Henry's justice. They all would have been released if it was not for Cassidy and her bloodlust. Instead she has released a great evil upon the world once more
I'm not sure why but the title makes me laugh 🤣
I don't know about the horror movies that you mentioned(never watched them, don't know the villains), but I can somewhat argue against bowser and William being the same. Bowser is there for the sake of being there as a villain. he doesn't have a story! but William DOES. had children, then didn't (lol), went ballistic, murdered a bunch of kids, escaped death TWICE(at the time of fnaf 6) and then was finally put to rest as a character in fnaf 6(or put in hell I guess haha). fnaf 6's conclusion was perfect for him. William needs an ending for himself. Bowser, however, doesn't need an ending, because he doesn't have a story to begin with. he's just there, a villain, nothing more, nothing less (still great video though I'm just showing my point of view here!!)
I think the key difference between Bowser and William is that Bowser from the get go was *built* to be a perpetual antagonist, with very rare occasions where he is assumed to be out of commission. Meanwhile with Afton it comes off as if they keep changing their mind on whether or not it's supposed to be the end of his story.
2:57 another comparison I wanna throw in here is Albert Wesker from Resident Evil Wesker was the main antagonist in the first RE game then he didn’t return until Code Veronica which at the time was the fifth game in the series when he returned he had such an awesome appearance then obviously he returned in the remake of the first game then he returned in a prequel to the first game Resident Evil 0 nothing to special just showing him before the events of the first game go down then you have Resident Evil 4 where he played more of a background role in this one but was still effective then he returned in The Umbrella Chronicles where it’s a retelling of RE 0 1 and 3 while also adding in additional information set during those games like Wesker coming back to life at the end of the first game him giving Ada her hook shot and showing how Wesker got access to Umbrellas satellite in RE4 while also setting up something big happing with him in the next game RE5 where here his plans go fully into motion and this game is literally his best appearance in the series he then finally dies at the end of the game with him being thrown into a volcano and shot at with two rocket launchers which is such a badass way to go then in later games his son and sister would obviously mention him a couple of times along with main characters like Chris and such then for some weird reason in the multiplayer game Umbrella Corps Wesker returns somehow? They don’t elaborate on this further maybe his back through cloning idk maybe they’ll do something with that in the future maybe RE9 idk but yeah.
I do think Afton could've worked in SB - but they should've changed him up.
It's not that AFTON came back, it's that SPRINGTRAP came back. It's not new, it aint fun. Even slasher films add gimicks to keep their characters fresh.
I see your point, it's just that we all thought FNAF was above Mario and cash-grab slasher films. :(
The story was interesting and intruiging just a few games prior, in my opinion they need to kill off Afton in the DLC. Or they at least have to have something major happen to him and his role in the series.
William Afton has no control over his actions. Just like his victims his is drawn by his limited senses and emotions. He wasnt always like that since we can see him trying to save his son from the agony and make him somehow happy again. Even after Crying Child's death he wants to Put him back together - like Puppet Giving Gifts, Giving Live in the Fnaf 2 minigame. He is the one creating Golden Freddy - his putted back together son. And he havent started this. It all crushed after The Crying Child gets killed. Michael Afton is the one that have started it all.
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So afton should just be allowed to roam free? Because revenge bad?
Ok thats enough
Tbh, afrton is tired! We done seen him for 6+ games! We need to let him rest for ATLEAST a couple games
No fnaf would be nothing without afton
Not really
Tbh my problem is that he's got a perfect ending in pizza sim and ucn and him coming back kinda ruined that great ending
1:01 why are you smoking a thermometer?
I don't think afton is stale on his own,, they just don't do anything interesting with him lol
I don't mind Afton coming back I just don't like burn trap he would have been in a modified glamrock boonie made to be glamrock glitchtrap and that would be way cooler design wise and make fore and excellent boos as you face off against a animatronic that has been made with the Express purpose of murdering instead of a lame sack with a 50 year old corpse inside
Afton has nothing to do with glam rock Bonnie, just read Tales
I do like Afton as a character but honestly him coming back all the time is getting pretty stale, I really hope in the RUIN DLC the new girl teams up with Chica, Roxy, Monty and Vanessa to save Gregory and the Afton corrupted Freddy and finally kill Afton for good. I think that would be a good ending.
This is what I've been saying it's not that William coming back is the problem is how they did it in security breach they didn't do anything the game was rushed and it wasn't at its peak if the game wasn't rushed I'm sure we would have a wonderful boss battle William is a creative and powerful villain that they could do a lot of things with him he'll there's even hints of him coming back in FNAF 6 in one of William's voice lines as scraptrap he literally says he knew Henry's plan all along he went in there anyway cuz he maybe had a plan or just knew he would survive he says I quote What a deceptive calling.I knew it was a lie, the moment I heard it.obviously, but it is intriguing nonetheless and if they do a boss battle it should show how powerful William really is I mean I like burnt trap the design is 🔥 but they can do a lot with it maybe we fight both burn trap and glitchtrap the same time or we fight him in our mind it switches through our mind and reality fighting him liking our mind we fight glitchtrap but in the real life we fight burn trap it's just a suggestion
If his last ever appearance is an absolute garbage Bossfight I’m leaving the franchise
It only work if He do something instead of being a secret boss, SB is garbage when it come to gameplay and it's lore
I love Afton and I have no problem with him coming back. But holy shit, don't make him look and act like a pathetic old man who can do nothing right. Glitchtrap was cool and weird and disturbing. Burntrap is just incompetent.
no
I feel like Springtrap is just Scott’s cringey furry oc tbh
bad video do it again 😾😾👎👎👎👎