2020 Ariens Edge Walk-Around Review | The Best Zero-Turn For New Homeowners?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- This is a walkaround review of the new 2020 Ariens EDGE zero-turn mowers.
Ariens Edge. Inexpensive, simple to use,
Experience the comfort, convenience, and versatility of a zero-turn mower backed by the quality and performance you expect from an Ariens. The intuitive controls of the EDGE help you maneuver in, around, and through smaller yards with a fast, clean cut. Get your perfectly manicured lawn and get back to your busy day faster with Ariens’ legendary zero-turn engineering in your garage.
Choose from a 34-inch stamped deck, or a 42 or 52-inch fabricated deck.
Easy to use deck lift. The foot-operated deck lift offers quick and easy cutting height adjustment.
Larger Tires With a larger diameter, these tires offer more traction and a smoother ride.
HIGHBACK SEAT On the EDGE, a cushy, comfortable highback seat supports the upper back during extended mowing sessions.
EDGE 42 Model 915253 - 20hp Briggs Intek, fabricated deck
EDGEe 42 Model 915245 - 19hp Kohler 6600, fabricated deck
EDGE 52 Model 915254 - 21hp Kawasaki FR, fabricated deck
EDGE 34 - Model 915251 - 20hp Briggs Intek, stamped deck
EDGE 34 - Model 915243 - 19hp Kohler 6600, stamped deck
Trailer Hitch For All EDGE Mowers - Model 715028
Arm Rest Kit for EDGE - Model 715084
2-bin bagger for EDGE 42 inch - Model 815046
2-bin bagger for EDGE 52 inch - Model 815047
2-bin bagger for EDGE 34 inch - Model 815134
Mulch Kit for EDGE 42 inch - Model 715160
Mulch Kit for EDGE 52 inch - Model 715140
Mulch Kit for EDGE 34 inch - Model 715108
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@Paul Sikkema, 5/24/21, Just got a Gravely ZTX42 (Gr/Ar. same co); luv this mach...just right 4my prop...come leaf season I'll get a lawn sweeper instead of the bagger. Didn't notice the absence of scalp wheels, that's a year or 2 older model. Otherwise quite similar 2mine; 22hp Kohler, 2.8gal, same controls, 3rotors, seat comes w/armrests...best w/
Actually, Your mower is identical to the Ariens IKON XD. It is a lot heavier duty ZTR than this EDGE in this video. By the way the Gravely ZT XL is also the same but has the heavier duty ZT2800 trannys.
@@PaulSikkema 6/7/21, Here's looking@U! A couple more things: Needed a tarp, Gravely wants $100...oofah! Found 1 on amzn, $40.; comes w/o floor mat, G-parts, $40. I had a couple old rubber doormats, cut 2size...viola! Needed hitch 4 lawn sweeper (Agri-Fab or Ohio Steel) I'm going 2get b/4 leaf season, G-parts, ~$52...2oofah! Found a universal (ebay)...fits anything+2- 3/8" x 1" hex bolts (nuts/wash)...perfect. I have a workbench/tools in my basement, if I had a pc of scrap angle iron I could make that pc but then I'd probably have 2buy that2. ... Luv this machine!
It’s actually in the middle above the mowing deck underneath where you sit. You pull them toward the front
Wanted to give everyone some thoughts on mine here... I purchased my 2020 ariens edge 34 inch zero turn for $2800 out the door. Since then I have put 13 hours on it mowing 17 lawns per week. (My yards are small). Just a little advice to newer zero turn owners: I would learn very early how to do a 3 point turn. (So you do not rip up your lawn or a customers lawn). I also would start up your mower and let it run for a minute or two to let it warm up before you hop on it and go full throttle mowing. The dealer told me my first oil change can be @ 50 hours but I would recommend your first one @20 hours just because if there’s metal shavings/debris in the engine you can get them out. Overall this mower has been great I can fit through gates as small as 35-36 inches and it cuts great. Hope this helps!
Thanks Jacob, I’ve been considering the 34” model, but debated the 42”. I have a 1/3 acre yard and just want to speed up mowing, but still get a clean, “push mower” cut look/striping. How would you compare a smaller deck to say at 42”?
Just bought the 52 in. Because why not. Lol
I love mine. I bought the 42 edge. The only issue I had was the discharge shoot had a habit of digging into the ground when turning right. It did break on me my first year. However I contacted Ariens and they sent me a new one at no cost. Their customer support is A1 in my book.
I should have watched your video reviews before all the others, I found a lot of useful information simply from following your explanations of key features and how these mowers are constructed. I'm glad I did not "fast-track" my mower decision out of frustration of seeing the grass grow to knee height as what you said was indeed important and note-worthy .. simply stated you do outstanding reviews. You've got an excellent team - kudos to your photographers too ... well done.
Just picked up a edge 52”, love it so far. Small and fast!
Thank you for taking the time to explain and show the ins and outs of the ariens edge 42".
We like your explanations on things, we agree after a lot of checking out different mowers we just bought a 34 inch edge. Gets delivered tomorrow by the dealer ,looking forward to an good machine.
How do you like your Edge 34, I know it's a stamped deck but does it perform well, could you do a video
Outstanding value ! I’ll use it on a 2/3 acre lawn. It’s a tank compared to my 20 y/o J.Deere STX 38. Buying exceptionally better engineering for the tasks ahead is a great insurance policy. I’ve compared JD’s, Cub Cadets and Husqvarnas' 42” Z254F. The Ariens’ appears to be engineered the best. I’ll visit the nearby Ariens/Husqvarna dealer tomorrow.Thanks !
When you go ask about the new 2023 Ikon. It's even better than this one!
Paul, Thank you for the how to drive video. Getting first zero turn next week.
I ordered the exact configuration as well. Excellent mower for the price. Endless power from that Kohler V-twin given how light the machine is. I thought they had forgotten to include the anti-scalp wheels until I mowed for the first time and realized that yes, with the short wheelbase it doesn't need them. Great cut quality. I only wish the seat was a bit higher as I'm a bigger guy too!
Fantastic review. Couldn’t ask for a better quality review.
Very nice and informative review Paul ! I agree with most of your comments, however I find that I feel somewhat cramped when sitting on the mower. The foot panel is a little short and may not be suitable for people of larger stature. The seat is not very comfortable. There is a 2 year bumper to bumper non-transferable warranty on the mower. Overall, it's a very good mower.
Yes, I talk about who it fits people in the mowing video. It is a great mower for people of small or "average" size but it is too small for large/tall people. Move up to the the IKON XD if you want more room.
Very, very few manufactures offer a transferable warranty. If you are buying one for someone else be sure to register it in their name.
Buying one this week, great video!
After this review I think ive made my mower choice. You educated me on stamped decks and fabricated decks. Thanks
I've got a really steep grade in my backyard and I was pleasantly surprised to see that my Ariens Edge 42 had no problems getting up the hill. I've found that if you use a bungee cord or zip tie and keep the discharge chute in the up position, you have way less clumping from tall grass. So far, I really love this machine!
Yes, I really like the traction of the Ariens Edge and Ikon XD mowers. They are better than most of the other mowers on the market. I really like that they zero-turn easier without leaving marks on your lawn.
I use the bungee cord to only raise the discharge up an inch or so. That's enough to let the grass spread evenly. Remember - having the discharge chute all the way up allows the mower to throw rocks, sticks, baseballs and anything that touches the blades. Those thrown objects will break windows, dent cars and seriously hurt people. If you mow with the discharge up NO ONE should be in your yard or be within 300 feet of where you are mowing. Yes, I've thrown baseballs out of the park (over 400 feet) by hitting them with a zero-turn.
I have steep leach field and sloping backyard, so that's great to hear. Just ordered 52" Edge vs 60" Toro Timecutter - was that a good call??
@@theianpaulmaxwell If I had a steeper grade to mow,but wanted a zero turn I'd look at a cub cadet zts. Zero turns,because of them having swiveling casters in the front have a real hard time holding a hill. Cub cadet zts uses a steering wheel that controls the front wheels,but still offers zero turn maneuvering and it still has 2 transmissions which on a hill act like a locking differential. I'm pretty sure they're rated for slopes of 20 degrees. They start out just over $4000 though,but definitely worth looking at. They call their steering synchro steer because it works in tandem with both transmissions actuating the appropriate power to the drive wheels while turning.
You do a very good walk around review, one of the BEST ! ty
Thanks for your time sir excellent video!
I’ll check out the 2023 models. I had to contact Ariens to locate a full service dealer in JAX FL who’ll place an order for me. Many closer listed dealers have stopped carrying Aliens. Now, more carry Club Cadet, Husqvarna, Gravely, Hustler and Kubota. Haven’t looked into Hustler’s or Kubota’s. However, the Ariens 42” looks built than the 42” Gravely on You Tube.
I just bought the 2023 yesterday
I just bought the 2023 today. Should be delivered next week. The only other mower I could find that was built better than this was the gravely ztx which was another $1200.
My old ariens zoom 34 went 12 years before the left hydro blew last week. That's not bad at all.
Nice thorough review on this mower, I think you have about sold me on this model as I am looking to buy my first zero turn mower for my 1/2 acre yard.
Did you get one?
Got my icon 52 today. It is a beast. I went with the Kawasaki.
What a great video. I don’t know you were paid for this video but you should be. Thanks!
I throughly enjoyed your complete review as always! I am a big Toro guy for lawns & Ariens for snow. But this machine looks like Ariens is serious about
lawn machines. I see a lot of smart engineering and quality with this model.
I would have included arm rests for another 50 bucks. How well would this model hold up to pulling an aerator 1-2 hours per year? I worry about the
hydros. Thanks for the great review!
Yes, Ariens is serious about their new zero-turns.
In the description I listed the accessories for the Edge series - arm rests are $50!
Sir you did a great presentation
Paul, I really enjoy your informative videos on snow blowers and mowers.
I wanted to ask you if the 34” deck version still has the EZT 2200 ?
Also , do you think a stamped deck is deal breaker or not that big of a deal ? Thank you
A stamped deck typically gives you a better cut and the Ariens 34 inch mulches very well. Fabricated decks are stronger and take more abuse.
You don't need a fabricated deck on the 34 inch version.
Thank you ! I was also considering a Hustler Dash XD but it has the EZT 1800 that sounded a bit weak.
I also agree i would take a well designed lighter mower over one that ways 50 plus pounds more and may be built stronger... just don't abuse a machine and it will not break 99% of the time... the more expensive heavy machines are used by every type of person so they need to be built with excess durability...
Excellent video! I really enjoy the details you point out. I'm in the market for a new zero turn. Looking at a Toro timecutter or a comparable Ariens. Really looking forward to your thoughts on this machine verses the Toro. Thanks Paul.
Nice video and I love your mower
Awesome detailed video as always ! Can we see a comparison to the time cutter?
I have the walk-around video of the Toro TimeCutter and this walk-around of the EDGE. Unfortunately because of a contract I can't compare them in the same video.
Paul Sikkema ok that’s ok. I always look forward to your videos you cover everything, me myself I’m a big toro fan
Excellent review Paul! Although, I'm wondering how this cuts on an uneven lawn. Does the deck stay stable enough? Are there better contenders? Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos.
this is one of the better ztr's for cutting an uneven lawn because the deck is supported on all four corners. That mean it will follow the wheels and not flop around like models that only have the three point deck mounts. Just remember (from the video) this a a small lightweight ztr so please sit on it before you buy. (I'm too big for it but my daughter loves it)
Thanks Paul..... Like the light weight of the EDGE, I never mulch, just broadcast or bag. Like the 42" (3 blade) idea, I also get the military discount at Lowes and like the idea of powered bagger. A pricey option, but cleans things up. Again, thanks for all you suggestions :-) Randy (thinking IKON)
revision.... just went to the ARIENs home website got all the info to compare. Both powered and non powered baggers available but for what I do, and surrounded with 48" yard fence gates, not practical. The Ikon X is gone.....Forgot to check overall width with powered bagger attached, but I'll go 42" Ikon XD
Good go around. Just purchased a 52" Edge from Lowes and loved the way it rode and
cut my grass. (ONCE) Next time I went to trim my lawn the damned thing would NOT
start. Read book, checked stuff and still no start! Electrical problem. Battery was fully
charged & had ample Amps, and Voltage. Still, NO starter motor. Lowes will not honor
30 day return, IF YOU HAVE PUT GAS in it. (go figure) After two days of BS from Lowes.
I finally called a lawnmower repair company to pick it up. The bill will be on ME>>>>>
I'm going to be Mr. Obvious. Lap bars all the way open, sit on the seat and make sure the parking brake is pulled all the way up.
Brother I would have went down and purchased the extended warranty. If it is within 30 days you can do that. $380 and it adds another 3 years to the warranty. They will come to my house and pick it up. If it's over 3 days they will also send someone to my house to mow my lawn at no cost to me.
@@PaulSikkema lol, this morning it took me several minutes to figure this out myself. That dastardly parking brake.
Bought one 2 months ago, giving me lots of trouble, deck belt popped off while engaged and broke, deck adjustment handle weld snapped, and the stock blades are on way to tight, 17" breaker bar and pneumatic impact wrench can't get them off
My father broke a belt this year on the IKON XD and I finally figured out why. He was mowing around some bushes and trees and a branch got caught under the deck. That said,
Get the mower back to your dealer, have them get you a new deck handle and have them take the blades off.
Paul I'm going to get a lift for the Edge 42" I just ordered. I need to know the distance between the front tires (center of tire to center of tire) so I can purchase the correct lift.
I'm out running around the country and I have not been able to get near the Edge to measure the distance. Anyone elese?
I mean, all of the weight on these things is in the back. My old zero turn, I would just pick it up by hand and slide some jackstands under it. Get some extra height by driving the rear tires onto 2x6's or pavers or whatever I had lying around.
The newest ones, especially the fabricated deck models, have more weight on the front to keep them from bouncing on rough lawns.
Did you ever do a video on the IKON XD? I love your review but I decided to upgrade to an IKON XD 52, primarily for the Kawasaki engine. I subscribed to your channel, but I thought it would just be easier to ask if you have the IKON review. You pointed out a lot of additional Ariens features that I wasn't aware of. Very happy with my purchase.
Not Yet! But I should have a review done in about two weeks.
can i get the 42 into a pickup with 44 wide clearance plus what about steep inclines
It should fit but you will scrape the paint. (Most pickup beds are 48 inches and this would fit in nicely.
Zero-turns are rated for NO MORE than 15 degree slopes. They are unsafe for anything steeper.
Looks like a well engineered quality machine for its price point. I'm looking at these and the john deere z355r. I've got a local cub cadet elite dealer who also carries gravely,which is also areins. He doesn't have one in stock for me to look over,so I may have to wait.
Gravely doesn't carry an equivalent to the EDGE. Their product line starts with the ZT X which is the same as the Ariens IKON XD.
@@PaulSikkema yeah,I realized that after looking over their offerings again. I dont have a separate areins dealer and my lowes didnt have any all summer. If I dont run across one soon I'll just get the deere. It's got good cut quality and I've got 3 local dealers that keep pretty good stock. My lowes barely had any mowers all summer,mostly husqvarna and craftsman was all they had.
Paul.... you've been pretty patient with me :-) I guess my priority is a clean cut. I am pretty mechanical, don't really care whether it is a Briggs, Kal, or Kohler. I have a little 28" cub cadet and it does a nice cut, BUT that automated choke SUCKs big time. It doesn't want to start when it's hot... I've adjusted the carb (limited as that is) but even a warm engine sometimes needs a choke. AND I'm not crazy about a fuel injected engine... when they're trouble, they are trouble. The 28 inch Cub Cadet walk behind does a better job than the 30" Toro walk behind and when you get to the end of the row you just whirl it around like a zero turn... you don't have to lift the front end of the ground and turn it like the Toro... and I was always a Toro man. These 42" zero turns are mostly within $300 of each other so I don't care whose name is on it, I just want it to cit clean. I maintain my tools.... retired. (more therapy, lol) Too old to run.... keep my guns clean too. lol
: Anyway, was leaning toward the EDGE, lightweight, doesn't have the heavy overhead bar roll type crap which I don't care about. They're all about the same price.... why do you prefer the Ikon X as to cut? Tractor Supply carries the Cub Cadet and offer sales on occasion. I want the option of the bagger.... I mow my small 3/4 acre yard and take care of a couple of the elderly neighbors with roughly the same size yards.... Mowing is just a form of therapy to me, lol, but above all, I want it to look nice. Thanks for all your time and help. Most average buyers who write reviews don't have a clue, they complain about changing a belt or they can't steer it,, or whatever (clueless about the cut) Thanks again Randy
I strongly suggest you sit on one before you buy. It's a small mower - too small for me. My daughter and son-in-law are "average"size though and they love it.
The IKON X is a a stronger, heavier duty mower and it fits me a lot better. The IKON X also has a 3 blade deck. (yes 3 blades on a 42) There is a lot of overlap on the blades so it never leaves a strip of uncut grass.
If you get the EDGE and you want to mulch - order the mulch kit directly from Ariens. That way you'll get the revised version that doesn't leave a strip of grass.
One thing to know - Ariens uses a powered bagger. Its another $300 more than the bagger on a Cub Cadet. (everyone else uses the standard, non-powered bagger) The powered bagger is great because you can bag anytime - even when the fresh grass is wet. (the power comes off the deck - there is no extra engine)
The Ariens IKON X stripes well and you can get a striping kit for the Cub Cadet.
Thanks for the great reviews! If you could only buy one; Ariens Edge 42 or Toro Time Cutter 50?
I'd buy the Time Cutter 50 or the Areins IKON XD 52 - there is a video on it on this channel.
Also. Maybe an upgrade on the seat. Replacing it with a seat that has armrests. I have never owned a zero turn just a rider. Your thoughts on the armrests.
If you want features like armrests and wider tires - move up to the IKON XD. It's just couple of hundred more and gives you all those extras.
@@PaulSikkema Unfortunately the tires are the same size and the IKON XD is 164 lbs heavier. I also like the round edge on the deck of the EDGE. Luckily I have time to make a decision. Thank you for responding.
I do like the rounded edge on the deck. Sorry, I was thinking of the 52 inch IKON XD - it has larger tires.
I'm considering the Edge 34 due the the size of my gates. Are most of the features beside the deck the same? I would widen the gate but it's brick fence.
I strongly suggest measuring the rear wheel track to make sure it will fit through your gate. The mower is a little wider than the deck.
@@PaulSikkema I agree. I want to measure it in person but no local dealer has one is stock. They sell so few of them that they order them only when needed. My question is, are the 34s the same mower platform as the wider deck mowers. Dealers seem to dance around this question.
Awesome machine where a lot of thought went into it with homeowner in mind. A well engineered machine. You are spot on with Briggs Intek engines. In my opinion they are inferior garbage. I had a Husqvarna mower that had an Intek engine and at 200 hours it suffered from oil blow by as the mechanic told me. It wasn't worth fixing. Lucky for me my local Cub Cadet dealer gave me 200 hundred bucks for it in 2011 towards my tractor that I still have with over 400 hours on a Kohler engine. I'll never go back to Briggs. Anyway ...great video. Always love the detail you go into and always point out the little things.
Just bought one last month for my business
I have to ask. This is just for around your business/property/building? This mower is not designed to take out and make money mowing other peoples lawn.
@@PaulSikkema well ima use it until I can get a bigger one
Take care of it. Change the oil every 25 hours, sharpen the blades every week and keep at least one extra set because you will wear them down quickly compared to a commercial mower. Make sure you balance the blades when you sharpen them so you don't tear out the spindles. Grease everything that needs grease regularly and replace anything that breaks right away. If you do that it continue to work until it pays for itself. (By the way, I don't recommend the mulch kit on the 42 inch deck) Side Discharge and your belt will last longer.
Great review Paul!! I’m trying to choose between this and the Deere Z335. Can you give me any advice on which one you prefer? I really like the Edge 42. Also does it need a mulching kit for leaves? Thanks for the video!
I like the Edge a lot better than the Deere. I particularly like the larger rear tires. They have a lot more traction so it won't tear up the turf as quickly making turns. I also like the fabricated deck.
Yes, it would need the mulching kit to chop up leaves. Unfortunately , it's a bolt-in kit so you it takes about 30 minutes to install it or take it out.
Paul Sikkema Last question, can I just put the mulch kit on for grass and leaves and leave it. Does it do well with grass? Thanks!
Yes, The EDGE mulches very well. Just remember to mulch your grass properly. Only cut one-third of the grass stalk. For example if you are cutting at 3 inches you should only let the grass get to 4 to 4.5 inches before you cut it. That means if you mulch all the time you may have to cut your grass more than once a week when the grass is growing quickly in the spring.
Mowers also do not mulch well when the grass is wet - they will leave clippings on the top of the turf.
Mulching leaves are no problem. It will chew up any amount into fine particles.
Great review. Maybe put some inch marks on your dowel for size compare.
Good idea!
I am looking at buying a new Ariens Zero turn mower and for the price range for me this one is really good and this one seems to be the best quality on the market. Your video was really pretty thorough but just one small thing you missed or I did and it's really nothing I'm sure but what was the little gauge just under the seat on the left hand side of the mower. TY again for a really good video.
I can't quite figure out what you are asking about. Is it the round disk? That is a stop for the seat so it only flips over so far.
@@PaulSikkema
OK at the very beginning of your video @ .02 stop it and look at the gauge just to the right of the Decal on the plate just below the seat and to the left of the handle adjustment screw
Got it! That's the fuel gauge. The fuel tank is clear and you can see how much fuel you have through that window.
Thanks Paul it was a simple thing,but that stuff bugs me till.I.know. You're the best.
When using my Edge 42" on uneven ground sometimes it feels like the frame is slightly twisting. Is this possible or am I mistaken? Paul have you noticed this when using your Edge?
The EDGE is a very lightweight machine so it makes sense that it would do that on uneven ground. A little flex doesn't hurt the cut quality because the 4-point deck lift will help the deck follow the frame - giving you a great cut.
I do suggest that you inspect the frame yearly to make sure there are no cracks developing. If it does crack before the warranty is out Ariens will take care of it.
@@PaulSikkema I'm embarrassed to say that I felt that feeling of the frame twisting again today and immediately noticed that what I was feeling was coming from my foot resting on the deck adjusting foot pedal. I took my foot off of it and didnt notice it anymore. So far the cut is great!!
No Problem, I have those "Brain-Farts" quite often :)
I need something for about two flat acres. Considering the 52". How would you rate that against the Kohler? Have to pay $4900 to get the Kawy in John Deere. Great video.
I like Kohler motors and have said for years, "Don't pay extra for a Kawasaki" That said, if you really want a Kawasaki move up to the Ariens IKON XD 52. It is a much heavier duty mower for just a little more money.
Is you had to choose between a Toro 42 inches or a ariens 42inch which one would you get
I like them both a lot. But - at this point in time - if you want to mulch most of the time I recommend the Toro. Why? I've heard a few complaints about the Ariens EDGE mulch kit leaving strips of grass.
@@PaulSikkema thank you for the quick response
What is your background? You seem very knowledgeable about mowers.
I've been around the industry long enough to have known many of the original ZTR engineers and have been able to learn from them every detail of why these machines work - and sometimes don't.
I owned my own landscape company in the 90's and was one of the first to buy zero-turns to replace the walk-behinds and Toro Groundsmasters that were popular back then.
I also have many years of experience developing training for nuclear power plant maintenance personnel. That experience helps me to easily analyze how mowers work and ask the right questions from the engineers so I understand the details.
Finally, I'm a farm kid. I was tearing apart mowers to see how they worked long before I learned how to ride a bike...
@@PaulSikkema you should put this info in the "about section" for your channel
I'm really curious to see if you get four or five years out of that battery
I'm curious to see if it will last 10 years.
Well done
Great Video.. but how do you drive it..1st time zero turn owner..Thank You
Check out this article. There are a few videos showing you how and how to use it safely: todaysmower.com/do-you-really-need-a-zero-turn-mower/
Thanks
Thank you for posting this. I was on the fence between this and a bb, but this seems to fit me better and I would get more for my money. Thanks again!
What is the width of the deck? I am wanting a zero turn and have a gate I will need to get through that measures 45 inches at its narrowest point.
The deck is the widest part at 44 1/2 inches with the discharge up. You will scrape your gate posts over time.
@@PaulSikkema Thanks for the reply, but darn it, I really wanted to get a 42 inch zero turn. I guess I'll have to go to a 36 inch or move my concreted fence post on one side...Ugh...
Could you tell me what the width with chute up would be?
The 42 inch deck will need 46 inches minimum. In addition the bottom part of the chute when it's raised needs a few more inches, but since the chute is flexible you could squeeze it through a 48 inch gate.
I'm looking at this model but only one available is the briggs 20hp model.
Not sure if you've tried it since yours is the kohler model, but would you be able to recommend it?
Reason I ask is the dealers want you to $600 more for either model than Lowe's.
The Briggs will last the life of the mower. You won't be disappointed with the Briggs
Our dealer only orders ariens with Kohler and I was glade ,that’s what I wanted
What’s the overall length of the 38” with grass collection bags ?
I don't have that information. But - a bagger adds around 24 inches to the total length of a residential ZTR.
Paul, is there a grass catcher available that will mount to the mower deck?
Yes, see your local Ariens dealer for the correct model.
@@PaulSikkema I went to my local dealer and they don't have knowledge of a grass catcher that will fit my Edge 42. I've also checked with a couple after market providers also and they don't support the Edge 42 currently. Can you provide the name of a grass catcher manufacture and model that would work with my zero turn? Thanks in advance for your help.
Really! You need to find a different Ariens/Gravely dealer!
Go to ariens.com and scroll to the bottom of this page. All the accessories - including the 2-bin bagger available for the Edge are listed there. It's part number Part Number: 81504600 www.ariens.com/en-us/power-equipment/lawn-products/zero-turn-mowers/edge/edge-42-kohler
Be aware that there are supply chain shortages and it may be out of stock at the moment. I checked Lowes and it is still listed as in stock on their website.
I'm very interested in Edge 34. How are the bagging systems on the Ariens Edge mowers? Thanks!
The powered bagging systems for the larger mowers is excellent but I don't have any experience with the non-powered bagger for this mower. So I don't know how well it actually bags. That said, it is built very well and built a lot better than the MTD baggers.
Non-powered baggers in general handle dry leaves and dry grass well. They will also adequately bag grass clippings on a sunny day. They will NOT handle wet leaves and wet grass well at all.
If you want to bag all the time I suggest considering to mulch. Raise your deck up and mow at 3-4 inches. Mow more often so you are cutting off no more than 2 inches at a time.
If you just want a bagger for leaves I suggest mulching them and then use a good lawn sweeper like the AgriFab 44 homedepot.sjv.io/kAJKV to pick them up.
@@PaulSikkema Thanks Paul!
Hello Did you ever find the bagging system for the 34” ?
Thank you
Your videos are extremely helpful.
I’m trying to decide between the Ariens Edge 42 (915283) and the Toro TimeCutter 42 (75746).
My local dealer sells both. And says both are great machines. He doesn’t recommend one over the other. So it’s essentially a coin flip.
Toro has longer warranty by one year. And the smart speed system.
Ariens has bigger rear wheels. And 4 point deck. And the flip up floorboard.
Both are fabricated decks.
The Ariens is about $50 more. So essentially the same price.
Any suggestions on which one to choose?
He's right - both are good mowers.
I strongly suggest you sit on the two machines to see which one fits you better. Why? I'm too big for the EDGE and I have a hard time using it because of that.
One other mower to look at. The Ariens IKON 42 is a solid step up from the EDGE and the Timecutter. Theo mower is built heavier, it is a completely new design, and the deck is arguably the best cutting residential deck on the market right now. It has an upgraded seat, better motor, lights and the steering levers are so strong you can use them to get on and off the mower. It's only $150 or so more and well worth the extra cost if you want a mower to last many, many years.
The IKON does look nice. And it upgrades the warranty to 3 years.
But it’s $3,899. The Toro 42(75746) is &3,449. And the Ariens EDGE is $3,499.
My total property is only 1/2 acre. And I’m guessing about .3 acre of lawn. I’m not sure the $300 increase is worth it?
As far as size, I’m average build. 5’9”, 175 pounds so the smaller EDGE isn’t an issue.
This is quite a tough decision.
I’m still deciding between the EDGE and Timecutter. I think the IKON is too much machine for my smallish yard.
The EDGE has a Briggs EXi2000 mower and the Toro has a Kohler 7000. Is one better than the other? Any concerns about the Briggs motor?
The Ariens has bigger rear tires. I do have one section of my lawn that has some slope to it. I wonder if the smaller rear tires on the Toro will give me any issues.
The Ariens has a 4 point deck. And the Toro is 3 point. And I saw you stand on the Ariens deck in the video. That was impressive. Is there a big difference there between the mowers?
And the warranty difference.
3 years/300 hours for Toro
2 years/150 hours for Ariens
I like how you said Ariens has lots of videos for homeowners to do their own work. Which one is easier for a homeowner to work on? Toro or Ariens?
Thank you for your help with this decision.
What did you end up with
why is the EDGE so much lighter than the other Ariens 42 inch? what is the advantage or disadvantage?
Advantage - if you have soft areas or sandy soils it won't sink in like the heavier models. Disadvantage - it doesn't handle slopes well
@@PaulSikkema Hey thanks for taking the time to share about the Ariens Edge. I am thinking of purchasing the Ariens EDGE 34. You mentioned that it doesn't perform well on slopes? Can you tell me more about that. I weigh 150 lbs. Tom
Every small ZTR - no matter who makes it - suffers from traction problems. The mower are too light. They will slide down slopes and are almost impossible to turn on a slope. It's really hard to turn on flat turf without them leaving divots. They work fairly well on a good, well established lawn but any lawn that is sandy or has bare ground they will tear them up.
If you are buying it because you have a small gate I always suggest widening the gate and getting a 42 instead.
How do you put it in neutral if you need to push it ?
The are two rods in the back of the mower that release the hydrostatic transmissions. Your manual will show you exactly where they are.
@@PaulSikkema mine were in the front of seat,were hard to find
Though I am more than sold on this Ariens mower (due to your thorough review), I would be curious if you could do a review on the Ryobi battery powered 42in zero turn mower that Home Depot sells? I would be curious to your personal take on all battery power and no more gas and oil. Thanks.
For most homeowners battery powered string trimmers, blowers etc. is the way to go. I personally like the Toro 60 volt MAX line but Ryobi also has a good line of hand held and walk-behind mowers.
If I review a Ryobi this year it will be the new 54 inch model with the fabricated deck.
Right now Ryobi, EGO and Cub Cadet/Craftsman are the only residential models available and they are limited to about 2 acres max for run time.
Ryobi is still using SLA Lead Acid batteries to keep the cost down but I have a feeling you will be replacing them every 4-5 years. ($600 plus)
Cub Cadet doesn't have a zero-turn at this time
EGO's new one looks promising but it will be $5000.
I'm going to wait to see what happens with the new administration. If this President gets gas prices back up to $4-5 a gallon you'll see a lot more interest in electrics from the major brands like Toro, Ariens and others.
@@PaulSikkema I agree with you on the battery push mower and weed eater upgrade. Will probably still go with the Ariens Edge next summer as my zero turn of choice and then depending on how the next couple of years go, start looking real hard on an electric zero turn.
LOL patina you say. While I may very well choose an Ariens ..i have trouble with patina on a new machine
How about mulching? Thanks.
The 2021 models mulches very, very well.
Last year (2020) Ariens found out that the mulch kit would leave a strip of grass when mowing certain types of grasses. They fixed the mulch kit in June 2020.
So, if you buy a mulch kit directly from Ariens or online at Lowes it will be the revised kit.
@@PaulSikkema Hey Paul, thanks, just the info I needed. Mulching can be good, ok, or bad depending on the machine and the kit designed and provided by the manufacturer. Thanks for the info. Happy mowing!
Can the beggar go on the edge 42" deck
Yes, Ariens offers a bagger for the EDGE. Lowes is out of stock right now so I suggest ordering one through your local Ariens dealer. www.lowes.com/pd/Ariens-Ariens-Zoom-Edge-34-In-Bagger-6-Bushel-Twin-Bagger-for-34-in-Zero-Turn-Rider-Ztr/1002511506
20hp Briggs Intek vs 19hp Kohler 6600 which one is better?
Dealers usually carry the Kohler - the big box stores carry the Briggs and the Briggs is $100 less. Personally I've never had an issue with either engine except I've had to adjust the valves on the Briggs after about 200 hours. So, if you are mowing an hour or less a week you will never have any problems with either engine.
The Ariens Edge 42 I have came through a dealer so it has the kohler. It's very smooth and can handle thick grass and mulching very well.
Briggs all day long
I got the kawasaki
You didn't say anything about how quiet it is compared to the others.
No I didn't. Two blade fabricated decks like this one all have about the same noise level. The brands all use the same mufflers for the engines. So, there is no significant difference is sound level from one brand to the other.
trying to choose between Ariens Edge and Simplicity 42 inch.... any comments please?
I'm letting my daughter and son-in-law use this one and they love it. They are mowing a flat, 1/2 acre, in-town lawn. It's light, nimble, and cuts perfectly.
The Simplicity never gets high ratings for cut quality or dependability. I'm also concerned about the brand at this time. Lat year Briggs put the division up for sale - no one wanted it. Then Briggs filed for bankruptcy and now a holding company controls it. Since Simplicity is not a huge money-maker I'm concerned that the holding company may just drop the Simplicity line altogether. That said,
If your lawn is rough, or is more than a 1/2-1 acre I suggest you also look at the Ariens IKON XD. It's much heavier duty and only a few hundred dollars more.
Thank you for the excellent detailed review
You can get a Bad Boy for that money and they r built like tanks !!!
Yes, the Bad Boy MZ is a comparable machine. I do like the larger rear tires and heavier-duty front forks on the Ariens myself. Typically, a new, inexperienced person will buy in this price range and the larger rear tires help them to not chew up their lawn.
@@PaulSikkema This is true Mr Paul . I love all your reviews i watch them all even the snow blower ones and i live in the Carolinas hahaha they make me feel cooler anyway lol
Anti Scalp Wheels. Where is my prize?
Fail fail fail. No anti-scalp wheels on the deck (the photos on Lowes shows some with the anti-scalp wheels). Bagger costs $750. Hitch costs $60. Rusty support rods. Your reviews are awesome though.
Check out the mowing review. ua-cam.com/video/72jcocfRKPI/v-deo.html
This deck DOES NOT need anti-scalp wheels because it is suspended on all four corners and held with solid hangers so it follows the wheels. This design doesn't need to float like the 3-point decks. (Lowes shows anti-scalp wheels on larger decks and the IKON XD series but not this EDGE).
The support rods will Patina over the next year and there is no reason for them to be coated.
The bagger is a higher quality than the $499 bagger from MTD.
Yes, you have to buy the hitch but you get the hourmeter. Since it's aimed at a new homeowner, not having a hitch on it until the new homeowner gets used to it is actually a good idea. (My chain-link fence and trees still have the scars from my wife learning to use a ZTR)
Is there a better mower in this price point Blake?
Not much of a review did not cut that grass very well oh wait you did not cut any grass ?
Patience my friend, that will come in the next video later this week.
Thanks
Paul, I am closing on a house next week. It's got a 1.3 acre property. Some of the backyard is fairly hilly but nothing super steep. Would you think this would be a solid mower for those situations? I have been looking at it along with the entry level 42" John Deere and a Craftsman as well.
It is a good choice. For over an acre I would suggest stepping up to the 52 inch deck. You will get done faster and the wider deck will allow you to trim around stuff easier than a mower with a 42 inch deck.
Fantastic review. All the key points.
My last ariens went 12 years problem free. I just bought this one today and I must say, the build quality is borderline commercial. They did a fantastic job and I can't wait to get on it.
Great review. That’s a nice looking machine!
Ariens is the industry leader in snowblowers, I love mine. I owned an Ariens riding mower (not a ZT) and it was a great, reliable mower. I recently bought a Bad Boy MZ Magnum ZT and I’m blown away how tough this thing is. Easiest machine I’ve ever seen to work on. They are the residential industry leader IMHO.
They were...
Paul, Have you ever reviewed John Deere Zero Turns? Have you any opinions on John Deere Products? Thanks
I like the 500 series a lot.
The 300 series cuts well but everyone else has gone to the higher-speed, fabricated decks. And - it's over priced compared to the competition...
@@PaulSikkema Thanks Paul. I like the 500 series as well but are expensive. I Just talk to a dealer today and Z540R the one I liked best, has been discontinued. It's always been curious to me why John Deere mowers never seems to be included when in a google search for Top or Best Zero Turns. The only place seems to be is Consumer Reports.
Thanks
In your opinion would it be worth upgrading to the XD 42" model or stay with the Edge 42" ? I don't believe I really need a bigger deck than a 42". Thank you sir, I think you do a fantastic job explaining all this equipment!
It really depends on two things. 1. Are you happy with the EDGE? The Ikon XD won't mow any better - it's just a stronger built mower. 2. Is you lawn rough and twists the frame of the EDGE? If it does the IKON XD will last longer because the frame and deck mounts are stronger. The IKON XD also uses a longer life engine. (you get what you pay for)
Paul.... thanks for answering my previous question :-) BUT now I have more, lol. I was looking seriously at the Ariens 42" Edge, but it is getting HORRIBLE reviews on the way it cuts.... people saying it leaves raggety uncut look down the middle of the deck. I have an old John Deere 42 inch that does that and I HATE IT.... price aside, who makes a CLEAN CUTTING 42" zero turn. BTW, I got the brilliant idea I could fix that John Deere.... replaced the 7 inch deck spindle pulleys (2 blades) with 5 1/2 inch pulleys (bought for $15) to kick the blade tip RPM up but that didn't help much..... something just wrong with the deck design. I'm really kind of limited to 42" (gates). A friend of mine has an old (1997) 60 inch Dixie Chopper... it's so plain and ugly he calls it Frankenstein, but it is the cleanest cutting mower ever.... rough ground or smooth ground..... makes his newer eXmarks look like crap.
Just to be clear - the mower cuts great but when you attach the mulch kit it leaves strips of grass down the middle. The problem was the mulch kit - not the mower. Ariens has fixed that July last year and if you get a mulch kit now it won't leave strips of grass. That said,
I prefer the cut of the Ariens IKON X, the Toro Timecutter and the Cub Cadet XT1 42. The Deere 400 series ZTRs with the deep deck also cut exceptionally well. One of the worse cutting decks is the Simplicity. (Keep asking questions - we'll figure out the best one for you)
Walker has a perfect cut too
Paul: I have a relatively small yard (my lot is 10,000 Sq ft) but currently a pinched nerve limits my walking. I am trying to choose between this mower and the Toro Time Keeper 75747 and I will be mulching. I watched your Toro review but this mower seems best for me. I am also an older guy. What are your thoughts on what would be my best fit?
The Toro MyRide is a really nice mower. It cuts well and you'll really like how well it rides.
I feel the Ariens Edge cuts just a little better but it is a very lightweight mower. If you lawn is rough you will like the Toro better. Also since the Ariens is compact I suggest sitting on it to see if it "fits."
Both mulch very well with th eoptional mulch kits.
@@PaulSikkema Paul thanks for your feedback. I continued to shop and found the Ariens Edge's seat was not to my liking, the Ariens Icon was much better. Unfortunately, no 42's" Ariens Icons are currently available at Lowes, even online. Several dealers listed on Ariens website actually sold Gravely and their more expensive and composable model was out of stock. Went to the Toro dealer again and reviewed the 75747 with My Ride and decided on it. The dealer is a mile from my house and will install the mulch kit and hours meter (ugh) before delivery. More money but I think I will be happy with the Toro.
I have the 52" and really like it with one exception. The rear turf tires suck. Goes up and down a slope fine but worry if going sideways on a hill and can tell you that I've pulled this mower out of a slightly wet area where it will instantly lose traction. Better tires aren't available and would void the warranty. FYI.
Zero-turns, especially residential models are not good at all for mowing across slopes. They are even worse when going downhill and then trying to turn. They also are horrible if you have wet areas. When I had the lawn service I always carried 300 foot of rope so I could pull the ZTRs out a soft spot without tearing up the lawn with the truck. Check out my article on mowing slopes with ZTRs: todaysmower.com/lets-get-real-hills/
@@PaulSikkema I will, ty. I also will replace these tires as soon as it is out of warranty.
will you get 3-4 hours mowing on that kohler 2 gallon tank?thanks
Most V-twins use around a gallon an hour. This engine is a little smaller so it may get better than that.
Just purchased the edge 52 for $2300 , a buddy runs a pawn shop and i got lucky, it looks brand new and I put it on layaway last year before the price went up, they are $3499 now where I live .
I purchased my first ever ride mower ariens edge 52. Only complaint is my bagger is 3 weeks late and nothing in sight.
I'm not fully sold on this. I didn't see many grease fittings I like being able to grease the spindles and the front wheel stalks.
In this price range greased spindles are a problem. The owners who buy this mower don't own a grease gun and most don't do any maintenance on their mowers other than change the oil and filter.
I do industrial maintenance for a living, and I will be the first to say that overgreasing is the primary killer of bearings.
If you hit it directly hard with a pressure washer, it’s a good idea to grease it. If not, don’t bother. 1 pump per year is more than enough.
The bearings that last the longest, are the bearings people don’t seem to know are there. So spindle bearings, just enough to get the water out after pressure washing.
Wheel bearings, 1 pump per year. Once the seal is destroyed, the bearings death sentence has begun. Not trying to sell you a mower by all means, but I do know that over greasing causes a bearing to have to “push” the grease aside, and generates heat. On a spindle that’s no big deal but a wheel bearing will generate heat, and cause it to sweat all the grease out, then fail.
Even if it has grease zirks, your better off not greasing it at all then overgreasing it. I have thousands of bearings in my industrial plant that have never seen a shot of grease and have been running for 3 years at 1400rpms nonstop, we began this practice as the greased bearings don’t last nearly as long.
Most modern commercial spindles have a weep hole that let's excess grease out of the spindle. That keeps the bearings from blowing the seals if too much grease is put in. It you have a model without the hole you can make your own by drilling a very small hole into the side of the spindle.
Great review, however, I hoped you’d mention the tension on the foot lever. Most machines are really hard to push. You did it with your hand, but you’re probably stronger than me. Input please. I’m shopping today!
I have a nine year old neighbor who has no problems pushing on the foot pedal and raising the deck
Really thorough and informative review. Thanks
so why would this not be a great mower for a one man lawn business?? I see no reason why this would not be able to handle 20-30 regular florida size yards... looks very well designed easy to fix and maintain and has more than enough horse power... I live in flat areas and that mower would cut average lawn in 12- 15 mins ... If it breaks parts should be easy to find if needed imo...
A big advantage this mower has for small lawns is that it is very lightweight. If you have to mow the lawn the same way every time it won;t leave grooves as quickly as a heavier commercial mower. That said,
A residential zero-turn is designed to mow your yard about one hour a week, 25-30 times a year or about 40 hours a year. Based on that the mower will last you at least 10 years. A commercial mower is designed to mow 30-40 hours a week and last 10 years.
So, if you use this mower commercially on 30 lawns a week, 15 minutes a mow, 30 times a year that's 300 hours.
I suggest you price your mowing so that you can replace this mower every 2 years.
I strongly suggest you look at the Ariens XD 42 instead. It's a much heavier-duty mower for only a few hundred more.
So I have a question for you Paul. You said some of the dealers like to suck the oil out the dipstick. What do they do about the filter, do they leave it there and only change it every few times or do they change it every time?
If you are changing oil every 50 hours then you don't need to change the filter every time. Personally, I change the filter every time I change the oil. Normally they would also replace the filter if you ask them too. (The filter holds .2 quarts)
Hi. Appreciate your help with a problem I have. Bought 42 Edge end of mowing season last year. Works really well! Probably would this year IF I can figure out how to choke it! Doesn’t have one that I can see.....is there one on it? Thanks..
It cranks but won’t start.
If there is no choke knob you need to move the throttle all the way to the open position. That activates the choke.
Just to be Mr. Obvious - make sure there is fuel in the tank. Let me know if you get it started.
Here is a link to the operator's manual. Look on page 8-9. pdf.lowes.com/operatingguides/751058045078_oper.pdf?_gl=1*4nfv3y*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE2MTI2NjI3NDIuQ2owS0NRaUFtZm1BQmhDSEFSSXNBQ3dQUkFCYVFxTFR0bEhxZnZmN3FQQnpPLVpOTTVXVmRfc0dFTjI0N2daZHFic2lRaVprbm5WaWpsb2FBdkF1RUFMd193Y0I.*_gcl_dc*R0NMLjE2MTI2NjI3NDIuQ2owS0NRaUFtZm1BQmhDSEFSSXNBQ3dQUkFCYVFxTFR0bEhxZnZmN3FQQnpPLVpOTTVXVmRfc0dFTjI0N2daZHFic2lRaVprbm5WaWpsb2FBdkF1RUFMd193Y0I.
Great instructions. I was very happy with your presentation.
I got a question buddy!! So I ram a lawn business as a kid for many years up till I was 20. I ran a “white outdoor” (I’m pretty sure an off brand mtd) 50”. It was a good machine for the money, just hated it would kick the blade off if you reversed. Now I’m 30, have a very small lawn but I really miss the enjoyment of mowing with my zero turn. So I’m looking at another small zero turn, do you think this is a better build quality than the toro time cutter? In order to justify this purchase I’m going to have to make a snow plow for it as well so I can convince the wife to let me buy one.
This has a better deck than the stamped deck version of the TimeCutter. But, the fabricated deck version of the Timecutter is a little better. If you want an even better mower for about the same price look at the Ariens IKON XD 42.
Just finished typing my concerns for no deck wheels, then you brought it up, love that. What a great video, very helpful. thinking about getting the 52in for my parents apartment buildings that I cut, about a total of an acre but lots of trimming around the sidewalk, landscape, trees, etc.
The EDGE is a homeowner mower. If you are going to have different people using your mower I suggest you move up to the Ariens IKON XD. It's tougher and will last longer with more people using it.
Great video I think I'm sold on this one
Hi this is more a question than a comment can this machine be fitted with armrest
Yes, your dealer can get the parts
I just bought this machine do you still have yours? And long term thoughts?
Yes, I still have it. It's being used on a 1/3 acre lot and it is getting used every 4-5 days right now.
We installed the mulch kit last summer and it really mulches and cuts very well.
We blow grass clippings off with a leaf blower (including under the seat) everytime we mow. It looks like new.
Change the engine oil on schedule and sharpen the mower blades every 50 hours or so. That's about all you have to do to keep this mower running in tip-top shape.