“shot 4 times in the back” certainly doesn’t sound good but the thing is going to be what is documented of the abuse?! them both being military adds another level and the cops went out to the same house several times in one be day and didn’t order them to split up for the night? they’ll even usually get a female a room for the night!
After listening to the police questioning again, she sent her twelve year old up to the master bedroom with the younger children, and then went into the garage to confront him. After the shots she took the kids to the neighbors house. Those poor children most likely heard those shots that killed their father.
There was nothing from the body cam that the officers could do. No bruises or scratches, and no witnesses. This happens to women as well. Unfortunately, it's a screwed up system.
Almost. They saved her by over charging her. That's the same reason Casey Anthony is not on death row. All they have to do is charge them with 2nd degree murder and get the maximum penalty of life in prison. They can't prove premeditation. The jury can't modify the charges. So it's premeditated murder or it's not.
🎭Furthermore, she is the abuser not Colin. He was afraid to go back into his own home....Jury? do the right thing. Some men are abused right up to their deaths by the abuser....
Something about ginger women... they're usually evil !! I've never known any to be kind / loving and I've known quite a few in my lifetime! Regardless it's a damn shame that a "mother" would commit such an evil selfish act and leave her babies with no parents and the trauma of this entire situation!
Well said !!👏🏾 it’s ridiculous. Regardless of their relationship in that particular instance , he was posing any physical threat to her , I. Fact he was on the phone with 911 . Who calls 911 during them attacking someone ?
He is definitely the battered spouse! She never had a bruise or mark. She couldn’t get the police to remove him. When she talk to the police she had a cold evil look on her face. A hate evil look. But walking into that courtroom she is laughing and smiling as if she was in such great joy. She accomplished what she wanted, him gone, she got rid of him for good and not leaving with the children. So so sad for the children! 💔
Right! Like she wasn't happy about the outcome. She had a " oh really look" 🤨 very evil individual. It's sad that he lost his life you could tell that he wasn't the abusive one. He just wanted to make sure his kids were ok.😞
If she was so afraid for her children then why did she leave them every day with him whilst she went to work?? She could have put them in daycare yet left them with the person she claims wanted to unalive them?? Does that make any sense??
Obviously a new threat was present - him threatening her that he was going to take the kids and use her mental illness against her to gain full custody- that’s what he had her believing regardless of reality, she believed him
@@heatherhall3452 You only have her word for that!! This is the same woman saying he was attacking her.....not knowing it was all recorded on the 911 call!! There were zero issues of MH when she came up with that fairytale at the PD
She isn't a battered woman. This man is not alive to defend his name. She is a cold blooded murderer. No police reports about her supposed abuse by her husband? She was not afraid to lock him out while he calmly called police to get back in several times. She was not afraid to put her young children into his hands, have them cared for by him every day. Shame on her for making disgusting lies about this man just to use a defense at trial for killing her husband in cold blooded murder.
What is going on FL these women are killing their husband for what??? She just ruin her Military Career behind a man 😢. Just get a divorce and go about your way. Your children have nobody now and you are going to jail for a least 20 years.
Why go thru the hassle of a divorce when people like Psychologist Julie Harper are willing to take the stand to say your soon to be ex repeatedly r'd you so you can walk on a murder charge! Easy peasy, no more messy man!!
They said her brother would testify that he was hitting her and kicking her before she shot him, but he was on the phone with 911 so it's all recorded. Can't her brother be charged with perjury if he testifies to that?
Amber Heard SHOULD have called the police in real time as the events occurred. Yes I personally understand the apprehension of police involvement however you need to document everything through law enforcement. Coming later, even with pictures, won't show the precise timeline. Her trial against him was civil. For money. That doesn't look good and raises questions of the victim. They were both wrong and toxic. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. I lost everything and I was almost beaten to death. My ex tried to unalive himself many times but I wouldn't let that happen on my watch. I am first and foremost a mom. I lost my home, all of my money, but it made the divorce very cut and dry. My children have PTSD but we are doing good today. We are alive and grateful. Years later I had another child 20 years after my first. I won't tolerate voices being raised in her presence. If there is a bad vibe I remove myself. I do not engage in arguments because they lead nowhere. You never take a parent away from a child UNLESS their safety (in all ways) is in question. Document everything.😢🫂
Don't know, he was on 911 cause she locked him in the garage not sure she had any clue he was when she shot him 4 times "in the back" no evidence of any marks on her body. I'm wondering is there any from before considering she has military training. I'd assume she can handle herself some what pretty good.
It honestly depends on the situation, events, and scenario. There have been some cases where someone is battered so badly , over and over again, that their brain kind of flips and the defending themselves either goes overboard, or they see no other way out. They still get charged for killing, but it's a mitigating factor. But in the end, it depends on the situation. I do agree with your end statement, that this scenario in this story doesnt support it.
It can infuriate us on behalf of all truly battered and dominated women.....her lies can dilute our Truths ! Extra shame on her..... for so many reasons.....
@@Ashley__Roseyeah. She was going to use that defense, but told police from the start that it was an accident. I follow the case with LYK (Lawyer You Know) I’m pretty sure her BSS has been denied from the statements SHE’S made. I can’t wait to see the trial next month. It’s going to be an absolute circus! I have no doubt that at some point during the trial, she’s going to have an outburst of some sort. It’s so crazy to me that the State of FL is prosecuting the case and the citizens of FL are paying for her defense. It’s insane!!
She has to serve her time, and then she has to face the military justice if she is still on active duty. The military will be a lot harder than civilian law. Leavenworth is a hard prison. She should have thought long and hard about her actions. Dishonorable discharge follows you more than a prison sentence. She's got both.
It doesn't really work like that. I spent 21 years in the military. In order for the Navy to charger her also they would have to file for dual sovereignty otherwise the double jeopardy clause comes into play. In order to be granted dual sovereignty to charge her the Navy needs to prove they have a separate vested interest in justice. They don't. The crime was committed off base and the victim was her civilian husband. He's a retired Marine but his current status is civilian. She's automatically going to be classified as RE-3B because she's spent any time at all in confinement. So that knocks out any chance for reenlistment. Any time spent in civilian confinement is considered lost time. That's time that no longer counts for pay, allowances, retirement, or benefits. The Navy can choose to expedite her discharge but in general after 6 month consecutive loss time days it automatically begins the other than honorable discharge process. This results in the offender being discharged from the military administratively, not punitively - though they will no longer be eligible for any service benefits. The max penalty for this case is life without parole. If she's given that sentence there's really way for the Navy to make a case for dual sovereignty in the interest of justice. They can't put her in jail after she's dead. She's automatically losing all pay and benefits. There's no point to holding a court martial in absentia just to strip her of rank and pay she's going to forfeit in 6 months anyway. This case was deferred to civilian authorities because they held jurisdiction where the crime was committed. The chances of the Navy doing anything besides the administrative discharge paperwork is slim to none.
@@jeraleewood5969and Lori daybell case. Poor Charles Vallow!! Probably even Joseph Ryan!! Of course we know the two children,and Tammy Daybell,chads wife!!
It would seem that her deceased husband had the correct instinct if he was planning to get full custody of their children. Unfortunately, it seems he underestimated how deeply deranged this woman is.
I think he was threatening her that he was the main carer of the children and because of her mental illness diagnosis and sueyside attempts no court would award the kids into her care.. the cops failed to acknowledge 🚩 Mental Illness and act appropriately
In my opinion all the excuses that are being made are ridiculous. Nothing in the world can make it right that she shot her husband four times in the back to murder him. She was not in danger.
Law Enforcement needs to be able to contact a mediator on DV calls. You are leaving these people in the same house without any mediation. It rarely ends well.
It's such a tough call. They arrest or make one leave then they just go back to each other & the cops just keep coming back, over & over & over. But they cannot arrest without a very accurate witness & physical marks left behind. Too many play that card then it gets dropped after all that paperwork, etc. many toxic couples are trauma bonded & just don't leave for good.
Especially, when he was locked in the garage calling 911. Just wow! It would make more sense for a self defense case, if she locked herself in the garage and reaching out to 911 instead.
Because she couldn't deal with the kids on her own. She didn't want him to leave with the kids but she probably didn't want to deal with them on her own either. She wasn't even paying attention to the little boy when the officer was there the first time. The kid was trying to grab things from the officers belt and stuff. She didn't even pat attention. Those poor kids didn't deserve what she did to them. She took their daddy away. That's disgusting.
Yes and she admitted that she tried to kill herself in the recent past, so how bad did she what to be with the kids if she wanted to end her life? The husband would then be with the kids so it doesn’t make any sense on her part at all
She's a Veteran. There are tons of free, fast services available to women and children trying to get away from a DV situation. I know this because I work for one of those organizations and have driven across the state in the middle of the night to help women escaping a bad situation. They're put in a tiny home community and provided all the resources and logistics needed to get back on their feet without a time limit on their stay..She may not have known such services exist, but it matters if she even attempted to look which I'm assuming she did not.
He was about to take the children. She would not have left, for any reason, due to only that fact. She also did not like how he treated them and they were foremost in her mind. I very much believe, due to his injury, that his mental issues got overlooked as he kept telling authorities it was her who had that issue only. I also believe much of what he told them were lies, re her taking articles etc etc. He was smiling the whole time, no stress or worry showing.
This prosecutor does not command attention from the room. Please speak concisely and stop walking back and forth. The victims here are Collin and his kids, not Bree. She's a cold-blooded murderer.
Interesting nugget here Dr. Harper will also testify in defense for Sarah Boone . IMO Dr Harper likes to MIS represent cold blooded killers as battered spouses
Didn't Colin tell LE that Bree has BPD (borderline personality disorder)??..if that's true, then he had his hands full living with her. My oldest daughter and mt grandaughter both have BPD..Symptoms are similar but not exactly the same in their behavior. Both have displayed violent moods, they lie so often that its difficult to discern the truth.
At the end of the day, at the root of the problem it’s demons/the devil, Jesus is the only cure. Speaking from 15 years experience in this shituation 🙏🏽✝️❤️ The only thing you can do to help is lead them to the Truth, Jesus said ‘ I am the WAY, and The TRUTH and The LIFE, no one comes to the Father except Through me. [John 14:6 ] For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against authorities, against powers - principalities of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil spirits in the heavenly realms. [Ephesians 6:12 ] Jesus is Coming very soon 🙏🏽✝️💗
It's a horrible condition, and very very hard on the loved ones of a person with Borderline. Bree's behavior is scarily familiar to what I witnessed in my own adult child. The wild allegations, victim mentality, property destruction, lies, and seemingly bottomless rage. I feel for anybody who is afflicted, as nobody would ask for this, but, it's pure misery, also, for the people around them. Sad, sad case all the way around. Prayers for both the families and especially for those three kids. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I agree. After the second call... The person threatening to leave the state with the children should have been asked to go somewhere. Why they encouraged him to break through doors after she is telling them he is being aggressive and threatening to take the children out of state... is beyond me. They should have deescalated and required one party to leave for 24 hours.
I can’t stand these lying woman it’s unbelievable he’s on the phone with 911 he’s talking to dispatchers and she’s got the nerve to say he’s beating her so she shoots him smh 🤦🏻♀️
Walk away people!!! No house, car materialistic things are worth your sanity!!! Your children will grow up, they will know what type of parent you are or will be after the divorce. Don’t kill their fathers or mothers! 😢😢😢😢
As I listen to both opening statements, this doesn’t look good for the defendant. Perhaps she was abused, we really don’t know but he was shot in the back while on the phone with 911…. I think she is going to be found guilty….
Thank you court TV, can you put up the entire trial and not just a portion of one day can we get everything and every day? Instead of bits and pieces here and there
@@scentualobsessions in domestic cases... People start to feel very threatened when a partner starts saying things like they are leaving and taking children out of state without permission. Custody cases become very complex. Look at how many people unalive their children when a partner wants to end the relationship.... That is why she is claiming to be a battered spouse and a crime of passion.
3 and 4 year old just lost both her parents. My son is 4 he would be absolutely destroyed if we both got taken away from him because he wouldn’t be able to understand what’s happening and where we are. It’s actually heartbreaking to think about.
The police aren't exactly correct. No parent can just take their kid out of the state and deprive the other parent of their children. Either way it goes, she had no reason to take his life.
She killed him because he wanted to leave her.I think either one can claim abduction if one of the spouses takes the children against the will of the other.
@@maanmohammad8459 Exactly. It's not like either was just taking the children to the roller rink. Both were trying to take the children out of state. They should have been filing paperwork in court. This was not the way to handle the situation.
Attempted offing herself at age 13, same 2 months prior to incident, hospitalized 10 days, sent to therapy 2x week. Month later, weeks before incident, presents at ER with "offing" ideation. Hospitalized 7 days. Tell her therapist Dr. Harper, post incident, she entered garage (wherein she had locked Collin) with gun in hand, pointing it under her chin threatening to kill herself. Collin replies with something like "now you're dead," and provoked, she then proceeds to put 4 bullets into...his back. No wonder, this evening, defense decided to rest, calling neither Bree nor Dr. Harper to the stand.
Now she saying she was going in the garage to kill herself? While her hubby was on 911 and accidentally shot him four times in the back? She really thinks people are going to believe that? She was not suicidal she was calm and cold all the time. and she lied all the time through plus changing her her statements
So what I’m getting so far from the defense is “you’re going to have to listen. Then you’re going to have to vote. Then you’re…” basically explaining their duties to them for the first half of his opening statement.
First of all the fact that she even had access to firearms, giving the fact she was suicidal is nuts, and they messed up. Im so sorry and heartbroken for the kids. I feel that this would have ended badly one way or another. It is disgusting and disappointing that this is common with people. You're not happy change. you don't want kids, then dont have them. Dont want to be married, then leave, and yes, it's easy we choose to stay and put ourselves thru whatever is happening. We live in a time that everything is in the tips of our fingers.
I can understand a wife killing her husband because the police do nothing knowing he has threatened her, sent her to the ER, neighbors calling, and witnesses. This was done to me multiple times multiple times. I had medical documents & pictures and planning to go to the court on Monday for a restraining order so that I could get divorced. They told me I was playing a dangerous game. But not one law enforcement, DA, or DV Organizations came to help even I begged them. So I can see someone murdering a violent man because nobody will do anything for these women.
So why didn't she say at that exact day when she called the cops 2times.. not only "she wants to take my kids!" ... but "he told me he will take them and kill them , and then he said he will kill me!" ... i quess the cops who "didn't a damn thing"... would react differently!
I may be wrong but I'm sure this Dr Harper is the same one the defence in the Sarah Boone case is using for battered spouse. Will be interesting to see in the run up to her trial!
The laws need changing , police should be able to order the person who holds the money to leave the residence and automatically order the children be left at home in their own beds or be taken into protective custody.
I’m watching the first side bar and the stenographer is still typing. I never knew the side bars are included in the transcript. She must have an earpiece that allows her to hear what’s being said while the mic is muted for everyone else.
Killing your spouse is NEVER AN OPTION! For the love of GOD you have CHILDREN! You've now left them with NO PARENTS! How could a so called "mother" ever in a million years be so selfish to do such a thing!? I will truly never understand!
Even if what her defense was saying that he did to her is somehow true that doesn't make what she did right. What kind of nutball just shoots someone in the back?? She could have loaded those kids in the car and left while he was in the garage. She's a horrible person no matter what he did.
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“shot 4 times in the back” certainly doesn’t sound good but the thing is going to be what is documented of the abuse?! them both being military adds another level and the cops went out to the same house several times in one be day and didn’t order them to split up for the night? they’ll even usually get a female a room for the night!
51:26 🙄 ok defense didn’t interject even once but the prosecution is doing it again and again and again
She took the kids to the neighbors house first, then shot him 4 times in the back. That's first degree murder.
@@ezmillrezmillr1065 that or premeditated? ... Not sure I heard that in any of the jury instruction... Did anyone hear
After listening to the police questioning again, she sent her twelve year old up to the master bedroom with the younger children, and then went into the garage to confront him. After the shots she took the kids to the neighbors house. Those poor children most likely heard those shots that killed their father.
@@tracymarra7201Of course. She will lie about it to them.
But what did he do
@@HollyWollyGog Died
The husband was asking for help and no one took his concerns seriously. When are people going to start taking men’s problems serious?
There was nothing from the body cam that the officers could do. No bruises or scratches, and no witnesses. This happens to women as well. Unfortunately, it's a screwed up system.
She has ensured her children don't have parents now.
Yes she sure did
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Almost. They saved her by over charging her. That's the same reason Casey Anthony is not on death row. All they have to do is charge them with 2nd degree murder and get the maximum penalty of life in prison. They can't prove premeditation. The jury can't modify the charges. So it's premeditated murder or it's not.
@@TT-dv9er so her charges are for pre meditated first degree murder?
🎭Furthermore, she is the abuser not Colin. He was afraid to go back into his own home....Jury? do the right thing. Some men are abused right up to their deaths by the abuser....
She defended herself by forcing her way into the garage to murder her husband who had called the police she's pure evil
Something about ginger women... they're usually evil !! I've never known any to be kind / loving and I've known quite a few in my lifetime! Regardless it's a damn shame that a "mother" would commit such an evil selfish act and leave her babies with no parents and the trauma of this entire situation!
Interesting, husband locked in garage on the phone with cops trying to deescalate the situation and she has to defend herself with 4 shots? Oookkkkk
and had to physically come to him. definitely sus.
Maybe she finally had all she could take
Well said !!👏🏾 it’s ridiculous. Regardless of their relationship in that particular instance , he was posing any physical threat to her , I. Fact he was on the phone with 911 . Who calls 911 during them attacking someone ?
@@debbievalentine6810 Then leave, bye.
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She wasn’t expecting him to be on the phone with 911, I’d suspect!
He is definitely the battered spouse! She never had a bruise or mark. She couldn’t get the police to remove him. When she talk to the police she had a cold evil look on her face. A hate evil look. But walking into that courtroom she is laughing and smiling as if she was in such great joy. She accomplished what she wanted, him gone, she got rid of him for good and not leaving with the children. So so sad for the children! 💔
Right! Like she wasn't happy about the outcome. She had a " oh really look" 🤨 very evil individual. It's sad that he lost his life you could tell that he wasn't the abusive one. He just wanted to make sure his kids were ok.😞
She shot him 4 times that's not DV it's murder
and all to his back😥
@@SerenDipity64711 That was not proven by the examiner in court.
Premeditated murder is the charge.
Especially when she’s chasing him and shooting him in the back
Yeah in his back
If she was so afraid for her children then why did she leave them every day with him whilst she went to work?? She could have put them in daycare yet left them with the person she claims wanted to unalive them??
Does that make any sense??
Obviously a new threat was present - him threatening her that he was going to take the kids and use her mental illness against her to gain full custody- that’s what he had her believing regardless of reality, she believed him
@@heatherhall3452 You only have her word for that!! This is the same woman saying he was attacking her.....not knowing it was all recorded on the 911 call!! There were zero issues of MH when she came up with that fairytale at the PD
Nope
@@heatherhall3452 if she was mentally unstable then he was right to take them away so she couldn’t hurt the children
And why did the kids always run to dad fir comfort and not her?❤
She isn't a battered woman. This man is not alive to defend his name. She is a cold blooded murderer. No police reports about her supposed abuse by her husband? She was not afraid to lock him out while he calmly called police to get back in several times. She was not afraid to put her young children into his hands, have them cared for by him every day. Shame on her for making disgusting lies about this man just to use a defense at trial for killing her husband in cold blooded murder.
What is going on FL these women are killing their husband for what??? She just ruin her Military Career behind a man 😢. Just get a divorce and go about your way. Your children have nobody now and you are going to jail for a least 20 years.
She got life😊
Hope she gets life without parole.
Why go thru the hassle of a divorce when people like Psychologist Julie Harper are willing to take the stand to say your soon to be ex repeatedly r'd you so you can walk on a murder charge! Easy peasy, no more messy man!!
Aw that’s cute that you think this only happens in FL 🙄
@@teresathayn5170isn’t Julie Harper the same expert testifying in the Sarah Boone case?
They said her brother would testify that he was hitting her and kicking her before she shot him, but he was on the phone with 911 so it's all recorded. Can't her brother be charged with perjury if he testifies to that?
He should, but I haven’t seen any of these people who commit perjury on the stand get charged and prosecuted … Amber Heard is an excellent example.
Amber Heard SHOULD have called the police in real time as the events occurred. Yes I personally understand the apprehension of police involvement however you need to document everything through law enforcement. Coming later, even with pictures, won't show the precise timeline. Her trial against him was civil. For money. That doesn't look good and raises questions of the victim. They were both wrong and toxic. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. I lost everything and I was almost beaten to death. My ex tried to unalive himself many times but I wouldn't let that happen on my watch. I am first and foremost a mom. I lost my home, all of my money, but it made the divorce very cut and dry. My children have PTSD but we are doing good today. We are alive and grateful. Years later I had another child 20 years after my first. I won't tolerate voices being raised in her presence. If there is a bad vibe I remove myself. I do not engage in arguments because they lead nowhere. You never take a parent away from a child UNLESS their safety (in all ways) is in question. Document everything.😢🫂
He didn’t take the stand and say that not perjury. More like false statements to leo
@@sad_vegan507 Thanks, I did say IF he takes the stand and testifies to that , not that he did. IF he did it would have been perjury.
Maybe he meant prior to him calling. I don't believe it either way.
Great opening, he really knows the case and doesn't need notes. He's confident in his case and should be.
Mumbles so bad and can't articulate at all so she will probably walk.
Don't know, he was on 911 cause she locked him in the garage not sure she had any clue he was when she shot him 4 times "in the back" no evidence of any marks on her body. I'm wondering is there any from before considering she has military training. I'd assume she can handle herself some what pretty good.
She seems so happy to be in that courtroom, like it's a party of some kind.
Because she had two comedians as attorneys.
Center of attention. 😒
Classic case of the defense using the 'battered spouse syndrome' reason to justify murder. The scenario and series of events do not support it.
And it won’t work for Sarah Boone either
It honestly depends on the situation, events, and scenario. There have been some cases where someone is battered so badly , over and over again, that their brain kind of flips and the defending themselves either goes overboard, or they see no other way out. They still get charged for killing, but it's a mitigating factor. But in the end, it depends on the situation. I do agree with your end statement, that this scenario in this story doesnt support it.
It can infuriate us on behalf of all truly battered and dominated women.....her lies can dilute our Truths ! Extra shame on her..... for so many reasons.....
Why not when Psychologists like Julie Harper can be paid to lie on the stand making up abuse and S.A. that never happened?!?
@@Ashley__Roseyeah. She was going to use that defense, but told police from the start that it was an accident. I follow the case with LYK (Lawyer You Know) I’m pretty sure her BSS has been denied from the statements SHE’S made. I can’t wait to see the trial next month. It’s going to be an absolute circus! I have no doubt that at some point during the trial, she’s going to have an outburst of some sort. It’s so crazy to me that the State of FL is prosecuting the case and the citizens of FL are paying for her defense. It’s insane!!
She has to serve her time, and then she has to face the military justice if she is still on active duty. The military will be a lot harder than civilian law. Leavenworth is a hard prison. She should have thought long and hard about her actions. Dishonorable discharge follows you more than a prison sentence. She's got both.
It doesn't really work like that. I spent 21 years in the military. In order for the Navy to charger her also they would have to file for dual sovereignty otherwise the double jeopardy clause comes into play. In order to be granted dual sovereignty to charge her the Navy needs to prove they have a separate vested interest in justice. They don't. The crime was committed off base and the victim was her civilian husband. He's a retired Marine but his current status is civilian.
She's automatically going to be classified as RE-3B because she's spent any time at all in confinement. So that knocks out any chance for reenlistment.
Any time spent in civilian confinement is considered lost time. That's time that no longer counts for pay, allowances, retirement, or benefits. The Navy can choose to expedite her discharge but in general after 6 month consecutive loss time days it automatically begins the other than honorable discharge process. This results in the offender being discharged from the military administratively, not punitively - though they will no longer be eligible for any service benefits.
The max penalty for this case is life without parole. If she's given that sentence there's really way for the Navy to make a case for dual sovereignty in the interest of justice. They can't put her in jail after she's dead. She's automatically losing all pay and benefits. There's no point to holding a court martial in absentia just to strip her of rank and pay she's going to forfeit in 6 months anyway.
This case was deferred to civilian authorities because they held jurisdiction where the crime was committed. The chances of the Navy doing anything besides the administrative discharge paperwork is slim to none.
She was highly abusive to him 😢😢 poor man
The old Sarah "domestic violence victim even though I was the aggressor" Boone defense strategy.
You are absolutely correct 👏
But it wasn't intentional, defense!
@@jeraleewood5969and Lori daybell case. Poor Charles Vallow!! Probably even Joseph Ryan!! Of course we know the two children,and Tammy Daybell,chads wife!!
So her only way out was to unalive him? Bs.
You can say kill
Sooo sickening how defense attorneys defame a dead victim like this
@Ashley__Rose this defense lawyer is a show boat! He loves to hear himself talk!
It would seem that her deceased husband had the correct instinct if he was planning to get full custody of their children. Unfortunately, it seems he underestimated how deeply deranged this woman is.
It's always the most dangerous when the dv victim tries to leave. 😭
I think he's the battered spouse
100%, not to say he was perfect but she used control, aggression, and violence
I think he was threatening her that he was the main carer of the children and because of her mental illness diagnosis and sueyside attempts no court would award the kids into her care.. the cops failed to acknowledge 🚩 Mental Illness and act appropriately
If course!
She’s unhinged and unstable.
In my opinion all the excuses that are being made are ridiculous. Nothing in the world can make it right that she shot her husband four times in the back to murder him. She was not in danger.
"He's taking my kids." yet she hands one of them to him while she locks him outside of the house. She doesn't have a leg to stand on for her defense!
Law Enforcement needs to be able to contact a mediator on DV calls. You are leaving these people in the same house without any mediation. It rarely ends well.
It's such a tough call. They arrest or make one leave then they just go back to each other & the cops just keep coming back, over & over & over. But they cannot arrest without a very accurate witness & physical marks left behind. Too many play that card then it gets dropped after all that paperwork, etc. many toxic couples are trauma bonded & just don't leave for good.
They fought over their children and then in the end neither of them get to be with them. Very sad for the children.
Shot 4 times in the back... smh how is that self defense?
Especially, when he was locked in the garage calling 911. Just wow! It would make more sense for a self defense case, if she locked herself in the garage and reaching out to 911 instead.
@@tracymarra7201 They over charged her. She is going home.
I mean what else can they say? Self defence in reverse.
@@TT-dv9er she literally said she was a murder and she killed her husband on body camra. She isn't going home.
She was afraid he was leaving her? No- in NO SANE WORLD was what she did self defense.
She doesn't want him to take the kids, yet she takes the three-year-old outside to be with him. Makes no sense.
Manipulative. Says whatever works at the moment.
Because she couldn't deal with the kids on her own. She didn't want him to leave with the kids but she probably didn't want to deal with them on her own either. She wasn't even paying attention to the little boy when the officer was there the first time. The kid was trying to grab things from the officers belt and stuff. She didn't even pat attention.
Those poor kids didn't deserve what she did to them. She took their daddy away. That's disgusting.
Yes and she admitted that she tried to kill herself in the recent past, so how bad did she what to be with the kids if she wanted to end her life? The husband would then be with the kids so it doesn’t make any sense on her part at all
She's a Veteran. There are tons of free, fast services available to women and children trying to get away from a DV situation. I know this because I work for one of those organizations and have driven across the state in the middle of the night to help women escaping a bad situation. They're put in a tiny home community and provided all the resources and logistics needed to get back on their feet without a time limit on their stay..She may not have known such services exist, but it matters if she even attempted to look which I'm assuming she did not.
She knew. She decided this was the best way to solve her problems. Now two little ones don't have parents.
He was about to take the children. She would not have left, for any reason, due to only that fact. She also did not like how he treated them and they were foremost in her mind. I very much believe, due to his injury, that his mental issues got overlooked as he kept telling authorities it was her who had that issue only. I also believe much of what he told them were lies, re her taking articles etc etc. He was smiling the whole time, no stress or worry showing.
I highly doubt she was being abused. It's all manipulation to look like the victim, to justify her shooting him in the back.
She didn't want him to take the children 😔 considering this outcome she should've let him. Taken him to court to get them back
Do you know that the people you assist a eligible to change their Social Security Number as well as their name.
Attorney needs to stay near the microphone. Can’t hear or understand him while walking around.
@@osoblst no… they walk as they please …
Wear earphones I can hear
Yea pretty annoying
He’s talking to the jury, not us!
I can’t hear with my earphones, here!
This prosecutor does not command attention from the room. Please speak concisely and stop walking back and forth. The victims here are Collin and his kids, not Bree. She's a cold-blooded murderer.
He is walking that way on purpose.
Interesting nugget here Dr. Harper will also testify in defense for Sarah Boone . IMO Dr Harper likes to MIS represent cold blooded killers as battered spouses
Dr Harper IMO is making a tidy penny out of ... what can I write that UA-cam won't censor? BS?
Five or six hundred dollars an hour makes some people sell their souls.
@@maanmohammad8459yep, that’s what I was going to say. It’s disgusting what some people with a degree will do to make easy money.
Also, if she thought he were so ‘unstable and dangerous’, why the hell did she leave those babies home with him all day?
All these domestic murders leave all these kids orphaned 😢
Afraid of a person who is in a locked 🔒 room that she has the 🔑 to open the 🚪. What a BS story 😮
Wow, that defense attorney was painful.
He was bloody annoying !
They nearly always are 😮
Omg the good ol’ boy thing turned me off. I am having a hard time retaining anything he says
I came here to see if anyone made a comment about him. Pacing with his hands in his pockets, I keep fast forwarding because of the way he is talking
Didn't Colin tell LE that Bree has BPD (borderline personality disorder)??..if that's true, then he had his hands full living with her.
My oldest daughter and mt grandaughter both have BPD..Symptoms are similar but not exactly the same in their behavior. Both have displayed violent moods, they lie so often that its difficult to discern the truth.
At the end of the day, at the root of the problem it’s demons/the devil, Jesus is the only cure. Speaking from 15 years experience in this shituation 🙏🏽✝️❤️
The only thing you can do to help is lead them to the Truth, Jesus said ‘ I am the WAY, and The TRUTH and The LIFE, no one comes to the Father except Through me. [John 14:6 ]
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against authorities, against powers - principalities of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil spirits in the heavenly realms. [Ephesians 6:12 ]
Jesus is Coming very soon 🙏🏽✝️💗
It's a horrible condition, and very very hard on the loved ones of a person with Borderline.
Bree's behavior is scarily familiar to what I witnessed in my own adult child. The wild allegations, victim mentality, property destruction, lies, and seemingly bottomless rage. I feel for anybody who is afflicted, as nobody would ask for this, but, it's pure misery, also, for the people around them.
Sad, sad case all the way around. Prayers for both the families and especially for those three kids. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
She shot him in the back, she killed him in cold blood Guilty!! Women like her are ruining it for real dv victims
She’s not phased at all by anything smiling 😮
Facts I was thinking the same thing I think she is the one who is crazy
She's guilty. The evidence is clear
But is she guilty of premeditated murder? Bc that is what she being charged with (a la Casey Anthony).@steelhurricane404
That's diagnosed as psychopathic. No emotion over them killing someone, they honestly think they've done nothing wrong...sick!
@@LRE44
Agree
Cops let this happen. After the second call out, one of the parties should have been asked to leave for a while until tempers calmed down. Tsk.🎉
Maybe they should've arrested her for locking him out of his property.
I agree. After the second call... The person threatening to leave the state with the children should have been asked to go somewhere.
Why they encouraged him to break through doors after she is telling them he is being aggressive and threatening to take the children out of state... is beyond me.
They should have deescalated and required one party to leave for 24 hours.
No, nobody let this happen except the person who chose to do it, on purpose.
@@joelsommer5765
Of course.
Agree 100%
How is he taking the kids when he is locked out of the house and trying to go back in with his daughter?
I can’t stand these lying woman it’s unbelievable he’s on the phone with 911 he’s talking to dispatchers and she’s got the nerve to say he’s beating her so she shoots him smh 🤦🏻♀️
She was expecting him to be on the phone with the dispatcher and it being recorded , which proved her a liar
Walk away people!!! No house, car materialistic things are worth your sanity!!! Your children will grow up, they will know what type of parent you are or will be after the divorce. Don’t kill their fathers or mothers! 😢😢😢😢
As I listen to both opening statements, this doesn’t look good for the defendant.
Perhaps she was abused, we really don’t know but he was shot in the back while on the phone with 911….
I think she is going to be found guilty….
Defense has his hands full here! Shot 4 times in defense?.....behave!!!
In the back, too. I agree that's murder.
Thank God those kids are rescued from that nightmare of a home.
They over charged. It's muder 2 not murder 1. She is going home.
.Woman have shot their abusers multiple times in self defense,as they WERE COMING AT THEM!
@@TT-dv9erdo they not have a lesson charge on the table?
Thank you court TV, can you put up the entire trial and not just a portion of one day can we get everything and every day? Instead of bits and pieces here and there
Also if I may add? Please don't show the Sarah Boone trial from the back of the room please.
@@pugernouferwhen does that start. Been so many dates so far
@@QueenOfEverything69
Search for "military husband murder trial"
@@QueenOfEverything69 Oct. 7th. I pray Court TV doesn't show this from the backs of their heads.
@@pugernoufer Now that's the trial I'm waiting for, I hope it's on par with the Darrell Brooks trial, that one was very interesting.
Hard defense doesn’t make sense if it was that bad then leave why did she have to follow them to the garage?
She wants the kids. He said no
Actually he was trying to leave her.
@@maanmohammad8459 yeah that’s what I mean so why did she follow him to the garage if she felt threatened
@@scentualobsessions in domestic cases... People start to feel very threatened when a partner starts saying things like they are leaving and taking children out of state without permission.
Custody cases become very complex. Look at how many people unalive their children when a partner wants to end the relationship.... That is why she is claiming to be a battered spouse and a crime of passion.
He was 100% disabled, and he had an income from the Marine Corps. She was not the sole breadwinner.
The attorney needs to STOP walking around!!!!
Lol
I know someone who has a brain injury and she freaks out and becomes abusive for no reason.. wonder if he was the same?.
@@amandapratt6270 Him? No. Her? More likely from the evidence.
He was NOT abusive
My gosh, The defense opening statement smears the deceased and makes it sound as though he deserved to be murdered!! Shameful!!
@@juliarobertson4233 true✅
That lawyer is not human, how can you defend that non human
he's a douchAy 😆
This was probably the worst leading prosecution opening statement I’ve ever heard.
Then you probably don't know Lally from the KR trial?😂
Why is the lawyer allowed to talk about what a witness is going to say. Does he not just wait his turn to cross examine ?
3 and 4 year old just lost both her parents. My son is 4 he would be absolutely destroyed if we both got taken away from him because he wouldn’t be able to understand what’s happening and where we are. It’s actually heartbreaking to think about.
The police aren't exactly correct. No parent can just take their kid out of the state and deprive the other parent of their children. Either way it goes, she had no reason to take his life.
She killed him because he wanted to leave her.I think either one can claim abduction if one of the spouses takes the children against the will of the other.
@@maanmohammad8459 Exactly. It's not like either was just taking the children to the roller rink. Both were trying to take the children out of state. They should have been filing paperwork in court. This was not the way to handle the situation.
Attempted offing herself at age 13, same 2 months prior to incident, hospitalized 10 days, sent to therapy 2x week. Month later, weeks before incident, presents at ER with "offing" ideation. Hospitalized 7 days. Tell her therapist Dr. Harper, post incident, she entered garage (wherein she had locked Collin) with gun in hand, pointing it under her chin threatening to kill herself. Collin replies with something like "now you're dead," and provoked, she then proceeds to put 4 bullets into...his back. No wonder, this evening, defense decided to rest, calling neither Bree nor Dr. Harper to the stand.
Now she saying she was going in the garage to kill herself? While her hubby was on 911 and accidentally shot him four times in the back? She really thinks people are going to believe that? She was not suicidal she was calm and cold all the time. and she lied all the time through plus changing her her statements
She's guilty!!
Defense attorney was a joke (c'mon...I wouldn't hire him for a traffic ticket). She? Well, she's just guilty plain and simple.
So the us navy has a vacancy now that Bree is going to jail
Vacancy due to murder!
She won't go.. She's white and crying
No she is not. They over charged her.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, THESE KIDS HAVE NO PARENTS!
@@rochellestarr9538 …. WE KNOW THAT ALREADY!!
Those poor kids. They pay for their parents poor decisions. So sad.😢
Mother’s poor decision. Dad was doing ok.
Those kids are obnoxious brats! I’d let him have them!
why is there a suicide hotline on this post this was a murder not a suicide
Yet Colin was safe enough to care for the children everyday she went to work. Even tho he had guns and so did she.
I see this attorney, for her, blaming everyone else for her actions. Disgusting. I hope he gets justice.
So what I’m getting so far from the defense is “you’re going to have to listen. Then you’re going to have to vote. Then you’re…” basically explaining their duties to them for the first half of his opening statement.
First of all the fact that she even had access to firearms, giving the fact she was suicidal is nuts, and they messed up. Im so sorry and heartbroken for the kids. I feel that this would have ended badly one way or another. It is disgusting and disappointing that this is common with people. You're not happy change. you don't want kids, then dont have them. Dont want to be married, then leave, and yes, it's easy we choose to stay and put ourselves thru whatever is happening. We live in a time that everything is in the tips of our fingers.
She doesnt regret what she did plus not thinking about her children. She might possibly have eventually killed the kids, im afraid to say.....
I suspect that her defense attorney has problems with the truth.
Lol.They always do.But here,you have everything recorded so they really have to try very hard.
No adults should be married if they can’t agree on little things like TV volume.
I can understand a wife killing her husband because the police do nothing knowing he has threatened her, sent her to the ER, neighbors calling, and witnesses. This was done to me multiple times multiple times. I had medical documents & pictures
and planning to go to the court on Monday for a restraining order so that I could get divorced. They told me I was playing a dangerous game. But not one law enforcement, DA, or DV Organizations came to help even I begged them. So I can see someone murdering a violent man because nobody will do anything for these women.
Uhh ok lady, while he is on the phone with 911, hiding in the garage from your crazy butt? Get mental help before you need the legal help.
Post Partum depression doesn't extend to 3.5 years.
So why didn't she say at that exact day when she called the cops 2times.. not only "she wants to take my kids!" ... but "he told me he will take them and kill them , and then he said he will kill me!" ... i quess the cops who "didn't a damn thing"... would react differently!
Been a fan since the 90s....you guys started all the true crime and live courtroom trials!! Glad I found this channel!!
I don't think any of this gives anybody the right to end a Life!
Two grown adults with children acting like CHILDREN. This is the result
Defense lawyer thinks he’s on a made for tv movie. Overkill.
swear!!!!! 😂😂😂 i was just wondering when the musical number would start 😂😂
Where is the footage of trial right after opening statements? Apparently, there is a portion missing. Would really like to see!!!
The prosecutor’s opening needs more exclamation
I may be wrong but I'm sure this Dr Harper is the same one the defence in the Sarah Boone case is using for battered spouse. Will be interesting to see in the run up to her trial!
Evil evil lady.
I just can't believe she would take the father from the kids.
That is Blatant murder. She deserves the Death Penalty depends on which State she is in, or Life Sentence without Parole.
The laws need changing , police should be able to order the person who holds the money to leave the residence and automatically order the children be left at home in their own beds or be taken into protective custody.
" the person who holds the money" should never be. They both should have their own money
Thank God the evidence was sufficient, cause this prosecution is the poorest I’ve seen.
Boy her lawyer is a piece of work .
I’m watching the first side bar and the stenographer is still typing. I never knew the side bars are included in the transcript. She must have an earpiece that allows her to hear what’s being said while the mic is muted for everyone else.
Killing your spouse is NEVER AN OPTION! For the love of GOD you have CHILDREN! You've now left them with NO PARENTS! How could a so called "mother" ever in a million years be so selfish to do such a thing!? I will truly never understand!
Why does it always sound like some is eating in the microphone on this stream of Law and Crime
This isn't law n crime
Even if what her defense was saying that he did to her is somehow true that doesn't make what she did right. What kind of nutball just shoots someone in the back?? She could have loaded those kids in the car and left while he was in the garage. She's a horrible person no matter what he did.
If you’re abused, you don’t shoot your spouse. You’re too scared to fight back. He was the abused one. So sad
I remember working this case the day it happened. So tragic, senseless and sad
Why did the prosecutor let his son/daughter, who just enrolled in barber college cut his hair? Did he not know this would be televised? 🤷🏾♂️💈
48:45 Why am I getting Carrie vibes, "They're all going to laugh at you"
How so? Carrie was a good person. This one is the devil incarnate
Why even take it to trial? Who killed that man in COLD BLOOD ! He didn't deserve that ! It's called DIVORCE!
I mean look at her she looks crazy. In the original body cam she looked enraged and he looked comforting to the kids … calm and normal . It’s obvious
a huge chocolate coin on the wall!
Lol
Best comment
I'm stealing this one, whahahahahaha, excellent
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chocolate coins = gelt
Grab your kids and leave !!
Don’t have to commit a crime!!!
She’s sick! She thought she could get away with killing him! No judge would’ve given her custody with her issues