I needed this, I play pokerstars VR, and there’s a player that try’s to school everyone about raising on preflop and how it’s bad and 83% ish a failure. She just always wants to see the flop so she makes her hand. It’s thrown my game off, and I needed this to help me focus on my preflop betting.
@@Maddog316 I play pokerstars vr to and every time i raise pre flop everyone calls or bets a crazy high amount and it doesn't make sense and most of the time they have bad cards and are out of position but manage to hit the flop every time do you have any tips?
@@L1L_TOASTYif u want to minimize variance, just tighten your ranges and increase your sizing a bit, u want people calling u when they are behind/dominated. If u don’t mind the variance, keep doing what you are doing and keep In mind that in the long run u will win against worse hands. Also important, remember that u don’t have to win a high percentage of the pots u play to be profitable if u are in a lot of multi way pots.
As an amateur player this touched on each topic very well and personally called out my inability to raise preflop. Amazing vid looking for the next one!
Love the videos! Definitely would love to see a snapshot for Postflop play. I’m currently going through both of your workbooks pre-flop math, as well as Postflop.
With the big hands tip; in tournaments I like to sometimes slow play vs a small stack of 10bb or less because they'll usually shove on the flop or pre flop. But only heads up
Where can i get these cards? they look so awesome! And a very good video. Thank you. Although it is very fast paced and there are lots of terms that a newbie like me can't comprehend this fast.
Hey James, I'm a big fan of your videos and appreciate the consistency, overall content and visual quality of your videos. There is one thing however that triggers me a little. Your audio. Honestly, it's relatively flat compared to other YT creators and there is a discrepancy in total output volume. Obviously I have no idea which apps/mic/audio interface you use to record and render your content. That said, having a good mic is one thing, but being able to enhance and tweak it with some minor EQ and compressor can go a long way. Either in pre- (OBS built in plugins) or post production (DAW or video editing software). I hope this might give you a nudge to look further into the matter and I'll be looking forward to hear if you make any progress on this behalf. Best greetings from Germany! 🙂
Solid video, even for those of us that have played for years but not daily. Love the game, but don't have the time to shine a seat more than once a week.
Hey Splits, good info in this video. Like the way you bring a lot of info together. Of course, everything is situational dependent. Thanks again for sharing all these concepts. Keep posting. I'll be watching.
Re tip 2 - my experience in low limit games is that unless the player is very nitty newer players have the sunk cost fallacy and over call. Therefor if you do this be prepared to play post flop
"open limping" doesn't apply to the blinds. usually in a live setting if it folds around to the blinds they will chop the pot and move on to the next hand without playing. if the BB is one of those "I don't chop the blinds" players then you should adopt a raise or fold strategy from the SB.
Question here, and I’m totally serious. What about a limp ONLY preflop strategy. Essentially turn your ENTIRE preflop range into a limp/call range then play passively/aggressively/trappy post flop as needed. Sure your potential hourly will be lower(assuming you’re a winning player at all), but I feel like it would be incredibly difficult to play against/read someone that plays like that. It seems the worst thing about that strategy would be your much lower hourly but you gain an unreadable image and you become extremely risky to 3bet against cause you could literally be limp/calling/ 3betting with anything. Even the tippy top of your range. Someone please explain why this doesn’t work haha.
You answered yourself: "Sure your potential hourly will be lower". while unreadable, your ranges will suffer incredibly EV wise. Doesn't matter if you get an unreadable image if players can just beat you with fundamentals.
Awesome Vid I have a question. The situation I play in (live) mainly consists of rec players, a point system play money league (bingo as blinds increase every 7 min). What is the optimal strategy vs straight forward/tricky limpers who cold call everything preflop? I find when OOP, re raising 4.5x + 1x for each limper isn’t enough. Should I be re raising 9x?
I'd go tight and aggressive with sizing and cbets. Bigger pots with better cards feels better to me. Figure out where the line is for the opponent and bet that. If you're at a table where standard process isn't working, deviate. If players you can beat insist on having huge pots, thank them. fyi I haven't played for meaningful money in a decade. I'm mostly just replying so i get the notification if someone replies to you. Aside from basic pot odds, I don't actually understand the minutia of why 2.3 is so much better than 2.5 or 3BBs
If i am the under the gun with a big hand A/K A/A K/K Q/Q I might limp at a table that has been raising after raising. It really depends on how the other players have been raising and playing. Then lets say it gets raised to 15 at a 1/2 table I come over the top to $45 and see what happens.
Must be nice to play in a game that 12x gets folds. My most recent example of limp calls was yesterday's game everyone limped and I raised to $40 and every single limper called. Keep in mind this is a 1/2 game with a $200 capped buy in. After that I bumped it up to $100 to get folds. Absolutely insane to have to et 50% of my stack to get folds.
@cmbsoldja it's a mix of old and young but if anyone at the table gets suited, connected or a pocket pair they are going to see a flop hell or high water. It makes it one big bingo game where skill is greatly diminished. Pretty much just have to wait on premium cards and jam.
This is probably a dumb question. However, if I'm 1st to act and I check doesn't that make me in position by default because now I get to watch everyone else either check or raise and then I can make the final decision on how to act?
The only player who can check pre-flop is the BB, everyone else has to call, raise, or fold. You are only in position when you are the last to act. Limp calling the BB and seeing how everyone else acts does not mean you are in position because you are not last to act.
Do you think it's possible to get better while playing free online poker? They will call anything and bet with any hand so i thought i needed to play around that. I know real money is way.different
@@ThePokerBank I am working on launching my channel and website. Would you be ok with me featuring some of your vlogs and insight? Also... do you have an affiliate program for your courses and books? I want to be able to offer QUALITY resources to my viewers and I really like and appreciate your LOGICAL and GROUNDED Approach. Thanks!
why not open limp if you know you're 35% likely to get raised by a late position and can't call? say you have an agro to your left who will spastically raise once in a while and you just want to see a flop with some suited connecters open limp seems fine but everyone thinks there pros!
0:50 that 🐟 needs to raise (or fold) that hand. Personally I'd raise with that hand but limping without supporting information is weirder than wearing jorts
This is so weird. What do you mean if you get out of position post-flop? If I start in position, like the dealer, how can I ever get out of position on that hand
Of course your position doesn't change postflop. But pretend you open-raise preflop from UTG. You could be OOP if the button calls you preflop, or you could be IP if only the BB calls you. Does that make more sense?
I love to open limp with Aces in 2-5 or 5-10 games. You'll always get raised and will have a chance to 3-bet with maybe getting a squeeze in the process. Many times your opp won't put you on aces so you'll have a disguised hand.
It's fine once in awhile but I wouldn't make it your default play from UTG or UTG+1. You then also need to mix in some limp/reraise bluffs like A5s-A2s which will make post-flop very challenging if when called.
How many times have you open limped in the past 1 year and you didn't have AA or KK or QQ or AK? ... I don't think your hand is as disguised as you think.
The “never open limp” advice does not apply to limit Hold’em. In limit no one goes away for one more bet, so the opposite is best: see a flop as cheaply as possible.
The only time I open limp is when I plan on calling a raise and am in early position against aggressive players ... Seems like it makes them crazy and even more aggressive when I do that. .. like a challenge ... Example ... I flop a set and check post flop ... Tends to always make them super aggressive and sticky ... Am I wrong? I don't do it all the time though ... just every so often to mix it up.
Meh not on 1,2 cash games or low stakes. I mean why would you raise high pre flop most of the people on low stakes are scared coz its obvious you got a good hand, if you do this on low stakes table you will win 3 dollars 😂. Low stakes table are for trappers.
So, instead of limping KJ offsuit, I should raise 8 bb's? ....... I find in soft microstaked games the players will only call with better, and they'll usually get there. It's not worth 8 bb's to maybe rake in 1.5 bb's, only to later on get called out and lose those 8 bb's.. That's a losing strategy.
If you open limp do you not gain position for the preflop? If your purpose is to cause havoc does an open limp cause that? Particularly if you are willing to re squeeze the squeezer with any hand.
@@moodlesmodular on the preflop would not the open limper be last to act unless everyone limps behind. You can limp fold, limp call, limp jam or limp and see a cheap flop. I can limp see how everyone acts and then decide what i am going to do is that not the definition of position. How about the havoc you can cause is that not useful at times
@MrAntup think about what you are saying, "if I call the big blind (limp), and everyone after me folds, then I was last to act." This is incorrect, they all folded after you called, in other words, they all took actions after you. Furthermore, there is no guarantee they fold, they could just as easily call or raise, which are also actions that happen after you call.
@@moodlesmodular i am not expecting anyone to be folding to a limp i expecting that when it comes back to me i have three options and everyone has acted once so i have information and can decide what to do i have gained position but am not always last to act. Anyway i am just learning so if i still do not understand it eventually i will
SplitSuit. Also note in a three way pot if you are on the button, you can be out of "reletive position" if the aggressor is second to act (middle position). So you are 1st to act after the aggressor. Just saying....
A lot of pros really want limping to be treated like the plague even though it's obviously not inherently bad. There are range benefits and hand reading problems that can make only limping/mostly limping a good strategy as well but a lot of pros will just say... 'no that's bad you should raise instead."
Bruh how are u crippling raisers if u open limp re raise ur range is so easy to play against if u open Limp call ur range is easy to exploit….long term u are a losing player based on variance u are opening the door to.
The moment I stopped following all those "pro" advices, my game actually improved. I play a 50% range from any position, I limp all my hands. Doing that allows me to get to bubble and final tables most of the time.
Hahaha, tip 1 is absolutely wrong. I swore off watching your videos a month ago, this one popped up and said, sure why not. Tip 1 was enough to hear. Just bad advice, period.
Bruh none of this matters, poker has become playing any 2 suited cards, playing any 2 connected cards, playing and calling with any pair to the river, playing any 2 cards with faces on them, playing any A rag, playing any K rag, playing any one off connectors, you raise you get 5 callers and that's after these fool limped in, you push all in you get 5 callers. People buy into tournaments with no clue about how to play the game and have no shame. They don't even understand that players who know how to play can tell when another player doesn't know how to play.The game sucks now, please explain to me how do you beat people like that because IMO it's impossible
Want to go further with tip #3? Watch this video and memorize these 3-betting ranges: ua-cam.com/video/aeFVKz1-4UM/v-deo.html
Who TF are you to dictate my play mf
I needed this, I play pokerstars VR, and there’s a player that try’s to school everyone about raising on preflop and how it’s bad and 83% ish a failure. She just always wants to see the flop so she makes her hand. It’s thrown my game off, and I needed this to help me focus on my preflop betting.
Who is dictating your play? lol.
@@Maddog316 I play pokerstars vr to and every time i raise pre flop everyone calls or bets a crazy high amount and it doesn't make sense and most of the time they have bad cards and are out of position but manage to hit the flop every time do you have any tips?
@@L1L_TOASTYif u want to minimize variance, just tighten your ranges and increase your sizing a bit, u want people calling u when they are behind/dominated. If u don’t mind the variance, keep doing what you are doing and keep In mind that in the long run u will win against worse hands. Also important, remember that u don’t have to win a high percentage of the pots u play to be profitable if u are in a lot of multi way pots.
Not a new player.... but definitely want to see more videos like this
As an amateur player this touched on each topic very well and personally called out my inability to raise preflop. Amazing vid looking for the next one!
The terminology and pacing of this video makes it not for beginners
Love the videos! Definitely would love to see a snapshot for Postflop play. I’m currently going through both of your workbooks pre-flop math, as well as Postflop.
With the big hands tip; in tournaments I like to sometimes slow play vs a small stack of 10bb or less because they'll usually shove on the flop or pre flop. But only heads up
Where can i get these cards? they look so awesome!
And a very good video. Thank you. Although it is very fast paced and there are lots of terms that a newbie like me can't comprehend this fast.
Hey James, I'm a big fan of your videos and appreciate the consistency, overall content and visual quality of your videos. There is one thing however that triggers me a little. Your audio. Honestly, it's relatively flat compared to other YT creators and there is a discrepancy in total output volume. Obviously I have no idea which apps/mic/audio interface you use to record and render your content. That said, having a good mic is one thing, but being able to enhance and tweak it with some minor EQ and compressor can go a long way. Either in pre- (OBS built in plugins) or post production (DAW or video editing software).
I hope this might give you a nudge to look further into the matter and I'll be looking forward to hear if you make any progress on this behalf. Best greetings from Germany! 🙂
totally agree, I had to turn up my volume to 90% just to hear him.
Solid video, even for those of us that have played for years but not daily. Love the game, but don't have the time to shine a seat more than once a week.
Great video James. I just bought your pre and postflop workbooks today, looking forward to putting to them to work!!
So is the ideal find a size that leave us HU or max in 3 players pre flop ? Or we always raise 5x plus 1 for limper no metter what ? thanks ‼
Hey Splits, good info in this video. Like the way you bring a lot of info together. Of course, everything is situational dependent. Thanks again for sharing all these concepts. Keep posting. I'll be watching.
Re tip 2 - my experience in low limit games is that unless the player is very nitty newer players have the sunk cost fallacy and over call. Therefor if you do this be prepared to play post flop
So where do you play live tables? Just to get these tips in person...
This was helpful! I'd love to see a follow-up video
This is good stuff but it would be very helpful if you could distinguish whether this is for cash only or tournaments too.
Does red Chip allow video downloading? Watching the videos online is too slow on my computer, and I get starts and stops.
I subscribed cause of this video...👍
Is it okay to open limp from the small blind if it has folded to u, or should I still just raise/fold?
what part of never did you not understand? :P
Online it is probly not too bad but in a live game with a drop/rake it makes no sense whatsoever.
"open limping" doesn't apply to the blinds. usually in a live setting if it folds around to the blinds they will chop the pot and move on to the next hand without playing. if the BB is one of those "I don't chop the blinds" players then you should adopt a raise or fold strategy from the SB.
Great use of the word “optionality.”
Question here, and I’m totally serious. What about a limp ONLY preflop strategy. Essentially turn your ENTIRE preflop range into a limp/call range then play passively/aggressively/trappy post flop as needed. Sure your potential hourly will be lower(assuming you’re a winning player at all), but I feel like it would be incredibly difficult to play against/read someone that plays like that. It seems the worst thing about that strategy would be your much lower hourly but you gain an unreadable image and you become extremely risky to 3bet against cause you could literally be limp/calling/ 3betting with anything. Even the tippy top of your range. Someone please explain why this doesn’t work haha.
You answered yourself: "Sure your potential hourly will be lower". while unreadable, your ranges will suffer incredibly EV wise. Doesn't matter if you get an unreadable image if players can just beat you with fundamentals.
Awesome Vid
I have a question.
The situation I play in (live) mainly consists of rec players, a point system play money league (bingo as blinds increase every 7 min).
What is the optimal strategy vs straight forward/tricky limpers who cold call everything preflop? I find when OOP, re raising 4.5x + 1x for each limper isn’t enough.
Should I be re raising 9x?
I'd go tight and aggressive with sizing and cbets. Bigger pots with better cards feels better to me. Figure out where the line is for the opponent and bet that. If you're at a table where standard process isn't working, deviate. If players you can beat insist on having huge pots, thank them.
fyi I haven't played for meaningful money in a decade. I'm mostly just replying so i get the notification if someone replies to you. Aside from basic pot odds, I don't actually understand the minutia of why 2.3 is so much better than 2.5 or 3BBs
Always Good Information ! Thank you.
Cheers Matthew!
If i am the under the gun with a big hand A/K A/A K/K Q/Q I might limp at a table that has been raising after raising. It really depends on how the other players have been raising and playing. Then lets say it gets raised to 15 at a 1/2 table I come over the top to $45 and see what happens.
Amazing video Thanks keep doing for us its a big help 🙏
Must be nice to play in a game that 12x gets folds. My most recent example of limp calls was yesterday's game everyone limped and I raised to $40 and every single limper called. Keep in mind this is a 1/2 game with a $200 capped buy in. After that I bumped it up to $100 to get folds. Absolutely insane to have to et 50% of my stack to get folds.
i play a .25 .50 game .. there's been open raises to $25 .. with callers
Yeah, older players at 1/2 will defend the yell out of their blinds.
@cmbsoldja it's a mix of old and young but if anyone at the table gets suited, connected or a pocket pair they are going to see a flop hell or high water. It makes it one big bingo game where skill is greatly diminished. Pretty much just have to wait on premium cards and jam.
@@jamesengland7260 Ahhh, I know that dynamic. It's definitely a beatable game, though.
@@jamesengland7260 sounds like free online poker i was trying to figure out how to beat seems u just gota play super tight
This is probably a dumb question. However, if I'm 1st to act and I check doesn't that make me in position by default because now I get to watch everyone else either check or raise and then I can make the final decision on how to act?
The only player who can check pre-flop is the BB, everyone else has to call, raise, or fold. You are only in position when you are the last to act. Limp calling the BB and seeing how everyone else acts does not mean you are in position because you are not last to act.
When I raise everyone folds and I end up scooping $3. Let them raise and then either call or 3 bet is much more profitable.
Awesome video. I’d love to see more like it.
Do you think it's possible to get better while playing free online poker? They will call anything and bet with any hand so i thought i needed to play around that. I know real money is way.different
Well done another of valid points this is good discipline I guess
Cheers David!
this strategy works for cash game?
Great Information as Always! Thanks James
You're very welcome!
@@ThePokerBank I am working on launching my channel and website. Would you be ok with me featuring some of your vlogs and insight? Also... do you have an affiliate program for your courses and books? I want to be able to offer QUALITY resources to my viewers and I really like and appreciate your LOGICAL and GROUNDED Approach. Thanks!
@@ScaredMoney-Poker Sure and sure! Send an email to james@redchippoker.com with any additional info
@@ThePokerBank Will Do! Thanks!!!
i love those cards, those are doepe
The only time I open limp is when I have an aggressive player to my left and I plan to limp raise.
why not open limp if you know you're 35% likely to get raised by a late position and can't call? say you have an agro to your left who will spastically raise once in a while and you just want to see a flop with some suited connecters open limp seems fine but everyone thinks there pros!
Where i play we pre flop raise to usually 7-15 big blinds and 3 bet 30+ big blinds. Is this normal?
It is in the games here in Texas
0:50 that 🐟 needs to raise (or fold) that hand. Personally I'd raise with that hand but limping without supporting information is weirder than wearing jorts
Yes post flop tips plz! Ty
where can i get those cards?
5:24 these are nice, shiny cards!
Thank you!
Is this tournament or cash?
how many big blinds should you look to start with in a competitive 8 man cash game
As many as you have an edge with =)
This is so weird. What do you mean if you get out of position post-flop? If I start in position, like the dealer, how can I ever get out of position on that hand
Of course your position doesn't change postflop. But pretend you open-raise preflop from UTG. You could be OOP if the button calls you preflop, or you could be IP if only the BB calls you. Does that make more sense?
Great content
I love to open limp with Aces in 2-5 or 5-10 games. You'll always get raised and will have a chance to 3-bet with maybe getting a squeeze in the process. Many times your opp won't put you on aces so you'll have a disguised hand.
It's fine once in awhile but I wouldn't make it your default play from UTG or UTG+1. You then also need to mix in some limp/reraise bluffs like A5s-A2s which will make post-flop very challenging if when called.
How many times have you open limped in the past 1 year and you didn't have AA or KK or QQ or AK? ... I don't think your hand is as disguised as you think.
The “never open limp” advice does not apply to limit Hold’em. In limit no one goes away for one more bet, so the opposite is best: see a flop as cheaply as possible.
Good thing this is a video about NL Hold'em then huh?
@@johnnyBuz072 I guess so! Lol
Doesn't rule 5 contradict rule 1?
Thx ❤
Nice fish program
What game you play, let me know plz
The only time I open limp is when I plan on calling a raise and am in early position against aggressive players ... Seems like it makes them crazy and even more aggressive when I do that. .. like a challenge ... Example ... I flop a set and check post flop ... Tends to always make them super aggressive and sticky ... Am I wrong? I don't do it all the time though ... just every so often to mix it up.
So one’s open limping range should be the empty set
This was really helpfull Please continue with these tips :P
Im sorry all, This was not for me. Is there a way to cancel??
Production suggestion: Your mic audio is out of sync with the video - once noticed, it's hard to not be distracted by it.
What is FOB
Can you use it in a sentence?
Meh not on 1,2 cash games or low stakes. I mean why would you raise high pre flop most of the people on low stakes are scared coz its obvious you got a good hand, if you do this on low stakes table you will win 3 dollars 😂. Low stakes table are for trappers.
Good Shizz
8mins into the vid and I'm still captivated by the beard
lol
So, instead of limping KJ offsuit, I should raise 8 bb's? ....... I find in soft microstaked games the players will only call with better, and they'll usually get there. It's not worth 8 bb's to maybe rake in 1.5 bb's, only to later on get called out and lose those 8 bb's.. That's a losing strategy.
If you open limp do you not gain position for the preflop? If your purpose is to cause havoc does an open limp cause that? Particularly if you are willing to re squeeze the squeezer with any hand.
No because you are not last to act
@@moodlesmodular on the preflop would not the open limper be last to act unless everyone limps behind. You can limp fold, limp call, limp jam or limp and see a cheap flop. I can limp see how everyone acts and then decide what i am going to do is that not the definition of position. How about the havoc you can cause is that not useful at times
@MrAntup think about what you are saying, "if I call the big blind (limp), and everyone after me folds, then I was last to act." This is incorrect, they all folded after you called, in other words, they all took actions after you. Furthermore, there is no guarantee they fold, they could just as easily call or raise, which are also actions that happen after you call.
@@moodlesmodular i am not expecting anyone to be folding to a limp i expecting that when it comes back to me i have three options and everyone has acted once so i have information and can decide what to do i have gained position but am not always last to act. Anyway i am just learning so if i still do not understand it eventually i will
@@MrAntup the point is you are only in position if you are the last to act, otherwise you are not
I think this video dropped my poker IQ 10x
Don’t open limp. Except utg when you have Aa
SplitSuit. Also note in a three way pot if you are on the button, you can be out of "reletive position" if the aggressor is second to act (middle position). So you are 1st to act after the aggressor. Just saying....
Lol, 10 to 12 big blinds is the standard open raise in Texas, that’s not an iso bet
Limpin is pimpin - Daniel Negreanu 2023 super high roller bowl champ.
A lot of pros really want limping to be treated like the plague even though it's obviously not inherently bad. There are range benefits and hand reading problems that can make only limping/mostly limping a good strategy as well but a lot of pros will just say... 'no that's bad you should raise instead."
Two thing I’ve never done.
1. Open limped
2. Cut that tag off my mattress.
Tip 8: Wear a t-shirt ;)
I open limp all day long -- life is good…
Not a video for beginners because I didn’t understand half of what you said lol
When giving tips to new players you should reduce the industry jargon, or at least explain it if you must use it
Open limping is a good trap stradegy. I'm glad you tell people to punish open limpers with a raise. Your viewers are the people I'm crippling.
Open limping will cost you money.
And I’ll continue to punish your J9o, A8s and Q10o every time I’ve got you dominated and pick up easy blinds.
You can trap open limping all day be my guest
Bruh how are u crippling raisers if u open limp re raise ur range is so easy to play against if u open Limp call ur range is easy to exploit….long term u are a losing player based on variance u are opening the door to.
If your planning to limp raise, that's ok.
please, please dont let the players at my local casino see this vid...I like their money 🤣🤣
The moment I stopped following all those "pro" advices, my game actually improved. I play a 50% range from any position, I limp all my hands. Doing that allows me to get to bubble and final tables most of the time.
I was with you until you said any position. Position is too strong
@@cadebruce4401 to me it really makes no difference.
Hahaha, tip 1 is absolutely wrong. I swore off watching your videos a month ago, this one popped up and said, sure why not. Tip 1 was enough to hear. Just bad advice, period.
I totally agree! Save me the seat on your left, we should play sometime.
Sure, come down to Texas. Game is 1/3, buyin up to 1500 w 75% match.
What qualifies you to give poker advice?
Bruh none of this matters, poker has become playing any 2 suited cards, playing any 2 connected cards, playing and calling with any pair to the river, playing any 2 cards with faces on them, playing any A rag, playing any K rag, playing any one off connectors, you raise you get 5 callers and that's after these fool limped in, you push all in you get 5 callers. People buy into tournaments with no clue about how to play the game and have no shame. They don't even understand that players who know how to play can tell when another player doesn't know how to play.The game sucks now, please explain to me how do you beat people like that because IMO it's impossible
Let me try to repeat back what I heard: "The game is impossible to beat because people play really poorly." Is that right?