Exactly, we who know what that particular in house institution is. Same as that House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Which the BBC are engrossed in. Especially when it comes to establishment propaganda and cover up.
There is nobody investigating anything, only threat-o-grams and door maggots. One should never contact or have any dealings with a company that issues threats and repeatedly lies to you.
As a kid, I wanted to go on 'Jim'll Fix it' and 'it's a Knockout'. I even liked Garry Glitter and Rolf Harris. My mum actually got me a Stuart Hall signed photo because she was a nurse at a children's hospital that Saville and he'd frequently patronised, they had private rooms there ffs, why didn't anybody suspect anything.
@@Immortal-Headcase Plenty of people suspected and even knew. Blind eyes were turned because Saville & Co were viewed as the geese that laid the golden eggs. There was a massive cover up over a sustained period.
Have you stopped using the NHS after letby killed babies? Or stopped going to the doctors after Harold Shipman murdered his patients? Or is the truth you just want to watch TV for free?
How are they getting away with calling it a licence??? Driving, yeah. Owning a gun, yup, fishing, yeah ... but watching the poxy telly?? ffs... what a joke
@@evelynharper6346 Close to 50 years for me, The day they prosecuted my ex wife I swore that the BBC wouldn't get another penny from me. In those days you had to have a license if you owned a telly and if you bought one from an electrical retailer they took your name and address and sent it to Capita(or whoever). You could still refuse them entry BUT if you had just bought a telly that was grounds for issuing a search warrant(If you had any sense you moved the telly after the first visit. (my ex didn't tell me about the visit)😮😮🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😵💫😵💫😎
What they hate the most is .. that anyone can watch and they can’t prove it … thanks for all of your dedication and vital information… I still remember the day I found out that T.V Detector vans that most of the streets were worried about was a lie ❤
Just don't be silly enough to use BBC iPlayer, etc. It will tittle tattle your IP to the BBC... Happened to my Brother in law.. Don't install it, or just simply uninstall it if on your system. Stick to UA-cam, Netflix and Prime. Voila!!
A few months ago I plucked up the courage to cancel my licence all thanks to the information provided from this channel, the BBC only ever got 18 months worth of license fee out of my bank account and Im now adamant that I'll never give them a penny ever again. Thanks for everything.
I did that once, the bastards must have looked at the last person (me) that had a licence at my address. The next 2 letters were addressed to me, but have now gone back to The Legal Occupier! I've had 20 letters in 2 years - No visits!!
Why? Has he won a tennis match or driven his car fast? Or invaded somewhere warm...? I'm certain he wouldn't want to be associated with such riff-raff.
@@ChilliJonCarne I agree, you need and should be recognised for the work you do for the public, but on another note with a BBC gokn I upset him by calling him this THICK, I told him implied right to access has been removed and he said I need to put up a note by the gate, so I informed him I don't and a barrister told me that which is true, so I said if your that THICK that you don't know the law then you shouldn't be doing the job your in, the way he looked and sounded and with the way he replied was like he was about to burst in to tears, but I'll give him credit the as when he knocked and I open the door, he said tv licencing and showed his if in full view, so if I was recording then the camera would of picked it up, he walked a way then I went out to him and that's we're I told him access denied by everyone at TV licencing, then as above with what I told him and his reply to, and then my reply, I think I got the best result with a goon that wasn't recorded, wish I was recording so I could send you it Jon, keep up the good work mate
It beggars belief that these commission grifters would expect a lone female parent, possibly with small children at home or a little old lady, an elderly man with perhaps dementia or someone who requires a carer to let them into their home. Given the criminal/ fraudulent activities that go on now ...its madness. And those letters are blatantly threatening. The BBC should do us all a favour and Far Cough.
Its not legal and neither is council tax energy water all corporations. And people don't own there cars you are only the keeper not the owner on V 5 you may not be the owner ? No one is its all corrupt they have been doing it for hundreds of years. Nothing is yours not even your children.
it was the threatening letters that made my mind up to stop having a telly six or seven years later I don't miss it, all repeats anyway totally not worth it.. they can duck off and do one..🙄
They're onto me now. I registered as not needing TV licence + that was supposed to stand for 2 years. That was about six months ago. Now I've had a letter saying I didn't respond. I'm following your advice.
After 2 years after canceling the TV license. Got a letter. Sent a email back to them telling them I don't need a licence I do not pay Goverment BBC funding war mongers, Lying media corporation phycopathic perverted discussing kiddy fiddlers. Don't ever call me, Email me or contact me or I will take them to Court.
I claim no licence needed with names of Jim saville Stewart hall Hugh Edwards doctor occupier and more with local takeaways pH number and made up emails and still haven't had a visit😂
It staggers me that they get away with using such threatening language. Whilst most of us find it amusing, there are some vulnerable people out there who will be frightened by letters like this. This is not on, and it needs to be stopped.
Some of their sales people swear and threaten violence towards their target customers. Some even use their ID on the street to bully people. Yes on the street.
I was getting these - I don't need a licence, so i ignored them for a while but then realised each time i got one I was getting a bit 'triggered'. So I went online and did the whole declaration thing thinking that that would be the end of it, and the BBC and I would effectively part ways...forever... Nope - right at the end of the process you get a popup to say that they will check again in a year's time to make sure I haven't changed my mind.. I won't be bothering with the declaration ever again, and now they have my name they may well send someone around...I don't give a toss, because I do not and will not ever need one, but I'm buggered if I'll be bothering to tell them that every year
@@RedBull.RedBull Post office/Royal mail are instructed NOT to send letters without a stamp to TVL/Capita.(I have a friend who works for Royal Mail) so that's a waste of time.
@Jcmprofessional you still pay for it. Australia's national broadcaster is government funded, so your taxes are paying for it. Not sure why youtube deleted my original comment.....it did not violate their ToS, their censorship is getting way out of hand
I got another one yesterday, written on it that it was put through my letterbox at 8.35am after I didn’t answer. I was at work but wouldn’t have opened the door anyway - I’d have said no thanks from an upstairs window. It says an ‘officer’ will be back because I’ve not answered their previous letters. 🤷♀️
No don't send back the Threatograms,you are inadvertently giving Crapita 😊 you return their letters, they then know that your address is "live",IE there is someone living there.😊😊😊I stopped paying the telly tax over 7 years ago,and have received over 80 Threatograms!!!!
I just blackout the address and put return to sender. Just thought it might cost them more money. Sent all the nhs covid tests and cancer tests back as well.
The thing that makes me laugh the most is that whatever method you use to watch a TV programme is going to be the same whether you watch it live or you watch it on catch-up. Absolutely no need for a licence at all. Most people don't watch TV live any more anyway. The only difference being watching it live or watching it by catch-up except you'd be getting the content in the exact same way. The TV Licence is not worth the paper it's printed on any more. Even more so because such a large amount of the licence fee goes to paying for all the idiotic, intimidating letters they send out to everyone. This needs to stop now.
Today is the18th of November. I started watching this video when the postman came. He delivered a TV licence letter to the Legal Occupier! 😂😂 I laughed as I was watching this vid and a letter came from them! I haven't had a licence for the last 10 years and never will again. Chilli, don't bother with the No licence thing as I did the same and had 3 visits in 2 years! Sent them packing every time. Great channel mate. Keep up the good work!
there are so many people with the same name noe in the UK... Legal. i think you should change your name I though John Smith was a Uk common name now its Legal Occupier.. heheheheehh
I actually had a visit....well I say a visit .The goon just put a card through the door while we were home but never knocked or rang the bell ...very strange
I believe TV licensing probably do know your name. I think the reason they don't put your name on the letter is so they can't be taken to court for harassment. Maybe if they name you personally they can be done for harassment.
They do send the letters out with the last known name at the address that had a licence, eventually they use 'the occupier' if after a few months they get no reply, or if the letters go back with 'gone away' on it, nothing to do with legal reasons.
I sued Crapita for failing to refund two surrendered TV licences promptly. They failed to file a defence. They tried to wriggle out of it. I got a default judgment. I invited them to speak to the Court Bailiff. They paid up with the Court fee and interest. Always sue them.
You seem to be having a lot of fun with this letter more than usual greatt video as always . Have been 4yrs licence free never had a visit and still legal occupier so there so good at their job!!!😂😂😂😂😊😊
It's all automated, these companies can't be arsed to send the letters themselves. They don't even know who the letters have been sent to and it's pot luck that someone will be stupid enough to pay them
I have a telly and pay my license fee but at one time I didn't have a telly and got pursued relentlessly with letters of this type. There was no internet or social media in those days so it was virtually impossible to gen up on the subject. Good on you ChilliJon for making these videos. People have a right to know the facts.
I'am over 2 years licence free now, had a letter from them each of the past 2 months, expecting a 3rd this month. I imagine the level of threats to go up as well as the quantity of red ink ! Thanks for all your advice Chilli John.
My recent letter has my name. It states that they previously contacted me and they've had no response. That's a blatant lie. It's the first letter I've had since I spoke to them on the phone 2 years ago telling them i didn't have a TV and would let them know if I decided to use one to watch their crap.
@@ruthguthrie1099 Did you give your name when you spoke to them 2 yrs ago? If so, they'll stop using it once you've received a certain number (a full cycle, I think) of their letters. When they start anew, you will have miraculously become ' The Legal Occupier. Just don't respond to them in any way, unless you _want_ to be on their books.
I've lived at my property for nearly 10 years. I've never owned a tv in my life and have no intention of getting one nor have I any intention of even watching tv. Anyway I never heard from tv licensing for years until the last few when people started canceling their license fee. Now I regularly get letters which I've been stacking up in a pile. They've even started removing all reference to tv licensing presumably to get you to at least open the letter but I'm onto their game. In nearly 10 years I've never had a visit. I've never responded to them and never will. They have no clue who I am and if anyone comes knocking I never tell them who I am until they've told me who they are and the purpose of their visit, and even then I sometimes wont tell them who I am, and if they refuse I just say have a nice day and shut the door.
After my wife died I returned all TV licence letters as, addressed is now deceased they then stated sending letters addressed to Mrs Deceased as she was the only one who watched the crap I cancelled the direct debit which she had set up to pay for it and filled in the declaration at TV licensing after which they informed me that it appears you do not require a licence and issued a partial REFUND . I thought it was great, but then 1 week later I had the one saying I'm down for a visit 2 weeks later i found a calling card from tv licencing goon they had called but i wasn't in but it included a direct debit instruction . It was consigned to the bin as will any more that come from the government propaganda politt bureau
I did the no license needed. They are still sending letters to the occupier even though they have my name and confirmed I do not need a licence via email. So now i just ignore them. What is the point of having an opt-out option if you are gonna ignore it and hassel people anyway? 🤦♀️
On November 1st 3years licence free all down to watching your videos best thing I've done loads of letters absolutely no visits.....thanks Chilli Jon 😀
I had a running battle with the TV licensing body that lasted years. I pay by direct debit and in the past they used to send a paper license through the post each year, which I kept under the TV (obviously). One year I received a similar threatening letter. I replied stating that I had a license and giving details. THEY replied, instructing me to send them the license (not a copy) so that they could verify. Big red flag! Obviously I refused and told them if they wanted, they were welcome to come and look at it but no way was I going to post it to them. They went quiet. Until next year...
They will always address you as the Legal Occupier even though they know who occupies the property, I think that is to avoid being accused of harassment.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😎😎
I've had roughly 14 letters over the last 10 years telling me they are opening an investigation, and then numerous letters telling me there investigation is almost over before they start an investigation again, and still no one has come to my door. They are full of crap, but I'm very glad they keep sending me and everybody else letters because it costs them money.
Recently received an email, so I guess it's been two years since I told them I don't need a license, (or want one). To be fair, although the questions are repetitive, they are pretty straightforward and it takes about two minutes to read though and tick the right boxes. Job done. Keep up the good work. This license is so unfair. MPs who voted for it are pathetic.
No license here for 25+ years, last year i ditched the TV completely. I'm not responding to them, they still regularly send me love letters though, which is sweet. I know i could simply let them know but why should I..? Its good entertainment recieving this rubbish, and i would be ecstatic if they paid a visit.
When you get one in the post, don’t open it, write on the unopened letter’ Unsolicited Mail’, ‘Return to Sender’. Do not put a stamp on it. Don’t open or bin them, keep returning them. It all adds to their losses, perfik!
Ring them , say your the occupier, dont give your name, tell them their " right of access is revoked " tell them your recording the phonecall and actually record it. After that they cant even walk through your front gate. Ever. I did this 15 years ago and since , weve never had a letter from them or a knock at the door.
you are doing Great work , highlighting the absurd waste of our money on intimidation by them to us , on a system of obvious propaganda and extremely cheap filler .
I filled in their online form a couple of weeks ago to say I do not need a Tv Licence. They acknowledged that my address does not require a Tv Licence and was given a ref. code valid until October 25. They also said they may still need to check but we won’t be in touch until your claim is about to expire. But if anything changes, we may write to you before that. Surely if anything changed and I wanted a Tv licence I would contact them first? What upset me, is I’ve now had the threatening letter in my late partner’s name, as in the past he had bought a licence at this address. Very distressing to me. If anyone knocks they’ll be lucky I answer the door as I work nights in a care home and sleep by day. I have my partner’s death certificate and a copy of the email they sent in my name, by the front door. 🤬🤬🤬
I've declared twice through an email and never got any visit, oh I was really looking forward to one too I'm soooo lonely, I normally ask if they're interested in Jesus saving them and do they want to talk about it... That normally scares people off.
Well done, "Present Occupier" 😂. Yes, they're kind enough to send me these harassing letters too. If they get opened (which only happens by accident) they go straight in the trash. Keep it up, Mr Occupier 👍
I have had alot of letter from tv licence but they never show up. I live in a rough area and was wondering if there are certain areas they dont come to?
It honestly cracks me up with laughter, I've been at my current address for 18 YEARS...and NOT ONCE have I had a visit from TV licensing. And that despite not being bothered enough to answer any of their letters.
They are pathetic. I used to get letters every month. I used to put on them return to sender , unwanted junk mail and pop it back in the post box . I havent had a letter now for 8 months. Theres no contact at the door, so life is a breeze. Great video
Been in my current property 8 1/2 years had letters fro the first month I moved in. All to the current occupier, various investigations, various letters threatening visits, all of which have gone in the bin. Still waiting for the knock on the door. Simply ignore the bastards
No, there are plenty of countries that do this. Aussie have it worse, their national broadcaster is government funded, so basically Aussies have to pay it as part of taxes.
lived in same council flat 15 years never had 1 goon come to door just those annoying threatening letters which to me seems like demanding money with menaces how do they get away with it the mind boggles lol
i notified the tv licensing inspectors of my fixed rate charges for a tour of my house (its not cheep, its inline with the license fee). and im yet to catch the buggers, they pop a note through the door and run. other people have taken a court order against them for harassment.
Did my renewal of no licence needed declaration yesterday. Never had a visit as yet, but I did notice that the subject on the initial email was "Your No Licence Needed claim expires soon, please contact us." I am not claiming I do not need a TV licence, I am stating I do not need a licence...no claims are being made. Once I went through the process, I received another email stating and I quote "We'll notify you within 5 working days, to confirm details of your No Licence Needed declaration." Why not do it then and there. Once I move to a house, I won't be informing them I don't need a licence again, I am only doing it whilst I am in my current place because I have done it for years.
Even if I don't need license, why should I give my name, personal details to the Private Company? TV licensing is private company.. Not a government organization. If they are government organization they could've easily retrieve my name from government database.
I did 7 years working collections for an energy retailer, and I could find an occupier's name in minutes. The idea that I've been under investigation for several months now and they still don't know my name is hilarious.
Oh no, they've begun an investigation, whatever will you do! Quick, close the curtains, and hide behind the sofa. Or, alternatively, do nothing and ignore these idiots.
Mate, I haven't had a licence for 30 years. I get my monthly letter, addressed to the legal occupier, which goes into the recycling. I'm on the electoral register, it used to be around £3.00 to check, so the "investigation" is rubbish. I've never had a knock on the door.
I had one a while back threatening me with a visit on a date two weeks prior to the delivery of the notice. My father worked for the Beeb in the '60s and '70s and I can hear him spinning in his grave from 250 miles away.
I send the letters back with the address scrubbed out, as with every unsolicited piece of material. Had one from the N H S, the other day, posted it back to them.
I used the declare no tv on line, even getting a refund and for 2 years nothing, no visit and no letters. Almost to the day 2 years later I received my first letter. Now on my second, I’m looking forward to the “never coming” visit. Please keep this up, but it certainly would appear you’re not reaching those vulnerable women that keep getting fined and criminal convictions. 😢
I'm interested to know if anyone EVER in the history of TV licence fines has been fined £1000 + ? I sat as a magistrate for many years and NEVER heard about or saw it.
It would be interesting to see if any summonses to court have been issued to "The Present Occupier" ....... without a name how could anybody be summonsed ? As Capt. Mainwaring said ....." Don't tell them your name Pike"
"Ignoring this letter could cost you more than the license fee". I didn't know ignoring their letters has been made illegal.
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That's definitely a threat. They should just add to the end if thay "we know where you and your family live".
Demanding monies with menaces, threats, is a criminal offense
It 'could' cost you more than the license fee but it 'won't'. Just like you 'could' win the lottery but you 'won't'.
I've spent £4500 on BBC licencing over my lifetime. I've paid all this money to peodos. I'm so angry with myself.
i totted it up the other day and realised over a lifetime we are giving them 3-4000 of our great british pounds..i havent had a license since 2001
Yes you are clearly not the brightest
Exactly, we who know what that particular in house institution is. Same as that House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Which the BBC are engrossed in. Especially when it comes to establishment propaganda and cover up.
@@NOT_SURE.. So what TV stations do you watch?
@@brimkathstampex2306 none its 90% shit why do you ask
Don't tell them anything just stop paying and ignore them
Best advice 👍
Agreed. Even if we do tell them they don’t believe us and threaten to 'send an investigator.' So, what’s the point of telling them.
So best to just stop dd?
There is nobody investigating anything, only threat-o-grams and door maggots. One should never contact or have any dealings with a company that issues threats and repeatedly lies to you.
"door maggots" haha thats a good one.
@@deathvalleybro9320 yes, 'door maggots' made me chuckle too, brill..
+1 for 'door maggots.
'Door maggots' 👍👍👍👍😅 can I use that, very descriptive.
Door maggots, step slugs, and gate gnats.
62 years old and never had a licence, decided at 12 years old that I would never fund the BBC after Mr savile tried to r4pE my best friends sister.
Hyde park resident then? From a burley person near Savilles mother.
As a kid, I wanted to go on 'Jim'll Fix it' and 'it's a Knockout'. I even liked Garry Glitter and Rolf Harris. My mum actually got me a Stuart Hall signed photo because she was a nurse at a children's hospital that Saville and he'd frequently patronised, they had private rooms there ffs, why didn't anybody suspect anything.
@@Immortal-Headcase Plenty of people suspected and even knew. Blind eyes were turned because Saville & Co were viewed as the geese that laid the golden eggs. There was a massive cover up over a sustained period.
Have you stopped using the NHS after letby killed babies? Or stopped going to the doctors after Harold Shipman murdered his patients? Or is the truth you just want to watch TV for free?
OH DO YOU NEED A LICENSE NOBODY TOLD ME NEVERMIND 😅
Why should we pay for the bbc the bbc should pay us to watch their shitty channels
I still wouldn’t watch it
@shaunrye7740 if i was getting paid i might consider it 😆
They would have to pay me to watch EastEnders 😫 if it's still on ???
Not for all the tea in China
they work hand in glove with government and its a brain-washing operation thats why they dont want to ever let it go.
How are they getting away with calling it a licence??? Driving, yeah. Owning a gun, yup, fishing, yeah ... but watching the poxy telly?? ffs... what a joke
It's an optional subscription. There are no terms of the licence, nothing. It's all BS.
Fishing rod yes permit no one takes you to court the other can only ask you to leave 😂😂
EVEN FISHING SHOULD BE FREE
Now that you put it that way, needing a bloody ‘licence’ to watch my tv in my house sounds nuts! 😂😂
@JamesBond-is5du I'm an avid fisherman, and no, it shouldn't. That money goes towards keeping our waterways clear and usable.
stopped paying the tv tax 5.5 years ago. there are 6 concurrent investigations into me ... they still dont know my name. loving your work crapita.
They know your Name!(Highlander voice)🤣🤣🤣🤣
They may now George 😂😂😂
Day 3 of not paying my tv licence anymore thsnks to this channel thanks my friend, much-loved frome wales uk❤
Congratulations. God bless you
Almost one year for me. Made it last year’s resolution.
Approaching 20 years for me.
Well done 👍
@@evelynharper6346 Close to 50 years for me, The day they prosecuted my ex wife I swore that the BBC wouldn't get another penny from me. In those days you had to have a license if you owned a telly and if you bought one from an electrical retailer they took your name and address and sent it to Capita(or whoever). You could still refuse them entry BUT if you had just bought a telly that was grounds for issuing a search warrant(If you had any sense you moved the telly after the first visit. (my ex didn't tell me about the visit)😮😮🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😵💫😵💫😎
I have had 8 years of these letters and no one has turned up! 😂
My theory is that the goons normally only trawl the poorer areas where there is a large density of likely victims.
15yrs for me 😁
Seriously? Hahahaha!
The same here. Im thinking is down to how remote you live.
No one will take the job , have you seen the funny youtube videos about these goons.
What they hate the most is .. that anyone can watch and they can’t prove it … thanks for all of your dedication and vital information… I still remember the day I found out that T.V Detector vans that most of the streets were worried about was a lie ❤
Just don't be silly enough to use BBC iPlayer, etc. It will tittle tattle your IP to the BBC... Happened to my Brother in law.. Don't install it, or just simply uninstall it if on your system.
Stick to UA-cam, Netflix and Prime. Voila!!
A few months ago I plucked up the courage to cancel my licence all thanks to the information provided from this channel, the BBC only ever got 18 months worth of license fee out of my bank account and Im now adamant that I'll never give them a penny ever again. Thanks for everything.
I have Returned to sender but now I save the letters for starting the bonfire. Great job Jon. God bless
I did that once, the bastards must have looked at the last person (me) that had a licence at my address. The next 2 letters were addressed to me, but have now gone back to The Legal Occupier! I've had 20 letters in 2 years - No visits!!
You deserve a knighthood for service to the nation and going well beyond what's normal for a British citizen with selfless commitment.
That's going a bit far, but I appreciate your comment lol
@@ChilliJonCarne😂
Why? Has he won a tennis match or driven his car fast?
Or invaded somewhere warm...?
I'm certain he wouldn't want to be associated with such riff-raff.
@@ChilliJonCarne I agree, you need and should be recognised for the work you do for the public, but on another note with a BBC gokn I upset him by calling him this THICK, I told him implied right to access has been removed and he said I need to put up a note by the gate, so I informed him I don't and a barrister told me that which is true, so I said if your that THICK that you don't know the law then you shouldn't be doing the job your in, the way he looked and sounded and with the way he replied was like he was about to burst in to tears, but I'll give him credit the as when he knocked and I open the door, he said tv licencing and showed his if in full view, so if I was recording then the camera would of picked it up, he walked a way then I went out to him and that's we're I told him access denied by everyone at TV licencing, then as above with what I told him and his reply to, and then my reply, I think I got the best result with a goon that wasn't recorded, wish I was recording so I could send you it Jon, keep up the good work mate
Knighthoods are given to war criminals 😂😎
It beggars belief that these commission grifters would expect a lone female parent, possibly with small children at home or a little old lady, an elderly man with perhaps dementia or someone who requires a carer to let them into their home.
Given the criminal/ fraudulent activities that go on now ...its madness.
And those letters are blatantly threatening.
The BBC should do us all a favour and Far Cough.
Don't be shy, say what you mean😮😮🤔🤔😵💫😵💫😎😎
@@cassandrade-wolfe6926 Don't let the stereotype of 'little old ladies' mislead you as to our true character and abilities ...
ILIKE THE USE OF THE F WORD. VERY CREATIVE
@JamesBond-is5du
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I can't see how any of this is legal....THEY ARE LITERALLY THREATENING LETTERS
That is why the letters are addressed to the legal occupier. It would be trouble for them if they used your name
Its not legal and neither is council tax energy water all corporations. And people don't own there cars you are only the keeper not the owner on V 5 you may not be the owner ? No one is its all corrupt they have been doing it for hundreds of years. Nothing is yours not even your children.
there are no threats only utter nonsense, I'm 14 years in now never paid never had a visit. My TV works perfectly well.
the Mafia would be embarrassed at this tactic.
@@MedievalDarkAgesGet a grip.
In the pioneering days of tv ,the BBC were useful but nowadays totally as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. Good man Chilli!
they are useful to serving their masters , and handy at circulating propaganda.
it was the threatening letters that made my mind up to stop having a telly six or seven years later I don't miss it, all repeats anyway totally not worth it.. they can duck off and do one..🙄
They're onto me now. I registered as not needing TV licence + that was supposed to stand for 2 years. That was about six months ago. Now I've had a letter saying I didn't respond. I'm following your advice.
And me
I got an email a week or two ago, and now my first letter. They waited 18 months into the 2-year no-licence-needed period in my case.
After 2 years after canceling the TV license. Got a letter. Sent a email back to them telling them I don't need a licence I do not pay Goverment BBC funding war mongers, Lying media corporation phycopathic perverted discussing kiddy fiddlers. Don't ever call me, Email me or contact me or I will take them to Court.
I claim no licence needed with names of Jim saville Stewart hall Hugh Edwards doctor occupier and more with local takeaways pH number and made up emails and still haven't had a visit😂
@@TwizSaw nice
national bullying and harassment
It staggers me that they get away with using such threatening language. Whilst most of us find it amusing, there are some vulnerable people out there who will be frightened by letters like this. This is not on, and it needs to be stopped.
Some of their sales people swear and threaten violence towards their target customers.
Some even use their ID on the street to bully people.
Yes on the street.
I was getting these - I don't need a licence, so i ignored them for a while but then realised each time i got one I was getting a bit 'triggered'. So I went online and did the whole declaration thing thinking that that would be the end of it, and the BBC and I would effectively part ways...forever...
Nope - right at the end of the process you get a popup to say that they will check again in a year's time to make sure I haven't changed my mind..
I won't be bothering with the declaration ever again, and now they have my name they may well send someone around...I don't give a toss, because I do not and will not ever need one, but I'm buggered if I'll be bothering to tell them that every year
It's all a scam. Everything is corrupted
Just ignore the letters I do 20 letters in my drawer now and I still ignore them
Send it back to them it will cost them still more.. I did it..
How many trees have to die in order to send out these letters?
@@RedBull.RedBull Post office/Royal mail are instructed NOT to send letters without a stamp to TVL/Capita.(I have a friend who works for Royal Mail) so that's a waste of time.
@@RedBull.RedBull Don't do that because then they will know that someone is living there
Why are you keeping 20+ letters?😂👍🇮🇪🇷🇺
same old stuff from our friends at TVL aka Capita. Tear up and ignore or wall paper your spare room with them. You say it much better than I can.
Friends??? LOL 😂😂
In Australia, TV viewing licensing was abolished in 1974.
Indeed, but you still pay it. ABC is government funded....i.e. you pay for it.
But what happened after it was abolished though?
@Jcmprofessional you still pay for it. Australia's national broadcaster is government funded, so your taxes are paying for it.
Not sure why youtube deleted my original comment.....it did not violate their ToS, their censorship is getting way out of hand
Australia is a great country to be proud off. unfortunately for us english uk 🇬🇧 is now a shit hole. plus a shit hole treasonous government.
You are providing a fantastic public service!
I got another one yesterday, written on it that it was put through my letterbox at 8.35am after I didn’t answer. I was at work but wouldn’t have opened the door anyway - I’d have said no thanks from an upstairs window. It says an ‘officer’ will be back because I’ve not answered their previous letters. 🤷♀️
Officer 😂
It's just a guy who makes a few extra quid by getting people to buy a TV licence.
They have no powers of entry.
Demanding money with menaces. Sounds like the mafia!
The next one I get addressed to "The Legal Occupier" to my property I'm just going to send back as "Not known at this address".
No don't send back the Threatograms,you are inadvertently giving Crapita 😊 you return their letters, they then know that your address is "live",IE there is someone living there.😊😊😊I stopped paying the telly tax over 7 years ago,and have received over 80 Threatograms!!!!
@@kenwilkins8237in 6 months I'm on 6, the first 2 using my name, the rest 'legal owner', gonna make a scrap book. 😂
I just blackout the address and put return to sender. Just thought it might cost them more money. Sent all the nhs covid tests and cancer tests back as well.
Do not send back.
@@angelamarynicz7865If you don't black out the reference numbers and barcodes too, they'll know it's you.
Thanks mate for educating all about TV licence I have saved
Money into my pocket
I received this letter last week. Not intimidated by empty threats, so I threw it in the bin 😂
The thing that makes me laugh the most is that whatever method you use to watch a TV programme is going to be the same whether you watch it live or you watch it on catch-up. Absolutely no need for a licence at all. Most people don't watch TV live any more anyway. The only difference being watching it live or watching it by catch-up except you'd be getting the content in the exact same way.
The TV Licence is not worth the paper it's printed on any more. Even more so because such a large amount of the licence fee goes to paying for all the idiotic, intimidating letters they send out to everyone. This needs to stop now.
Today is the18th of November. I started watching this video when the postman came.
He delivered a TV licence letter to the Legal Occupier! 😂😂
I laughed as I was watching this vid and a letter came from them!
I haven't had a licence for the last 10 years and never will again.
Chilli, don't bother with the No licence thing as I did the same and had 3 visits in 2 years! Sent them packing every time.
Great channel mate. Keep up the good work!
there are so many people with the same name noe in the UK... Legal. i think you should change your name I though John Smith was a Uk common name now its Legal Occupier.. heheheheehh
I actually had a visit....well I say a visit .The goon just put a card through the door while we were home but never knocked or rang the bell ...very strange
I had exactly the sane a month ago.
If you didn't see it was a goon, it wouldnt have been.
they leaflet people, no knocks, just the 'we knocked and you didnt answer' little red card
@ChilliJonCarne yeah little red card ....but what's the point of that ?..by the way, I freed myself from the bbc because of your advice. Thanks 😊
@@barukkazhad8998 Just another way to try to intimidate people. Their scummery knows no bounds.
@stevegee8010 Well...its a crap plan ,as my 10 year old son and I just laughed
If I were a multi millionaire I'd sue them for demanding money with menaces. I'm doing the lottery tomorrow!
I believe TV licensing probably do know your name. I think the reason they don't put your name on the letter is so they can't be taken to court for harassment. Maybe if they name you personally they can be done for harassment.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head with this. Maybe BlackBelt Barrister can confirm this.
They do send the letters out with the last known name at the address that had a licence, eventually they use 'the occupier' if after a few months they get no reply, or if the letters go back with 'gone away' on it, nothing to do with legal reasons.
They'll know our names for sure. Electrol register!
@@jaybe2908 You may be right but I've never seen a tv licence letter with a person's full name on it.
@@necropink9200 I'm a postman so I see quite a lot of them, with names known and unknown.
I've been waiting over 7years and iv still not got the opportunity to say "no thank you" 😂
You'll wait another 7 years
I sued Crapita for failing to refund two surrendered TV licences promptly. They failed to file a defence. They tried to wriggle out of it. I got a default judgment. I invited them to speak to the Court Bailiff. They paid up with the Court fee and interest. Always sue them.
You seem to be having a lot of fun with this letter more than usual greatt video as always .
Have been 4yrs licence free never had a visit and still legal occupier so there so good at their job!!!😂😂😂😂😊😊
It's all automated, these companies can't be arsed to send the letters themselves. They don't even know who the letters have been sent to and it's pot luck that someone will be stupid enough to pay them
I have a telly and pay my license fee but at one time I didn't have a telly and got pursued relentlessly with letters of this type. There was no internet or social media in those days so it was virtually impossible to gen up on the subject. Good on you ChilliJon for making these videos. People have a right to know the facts.
Something wrong with you
I'am over 2 years licence free now, had a letter from them each of the past 2 months, expecting a 3rd this month. I imagine the level of threats to go up as well as the quantity of red ink ! Thanks for all your advice Chilli John.
My recent letter has my name. It states that they previously contacted me and they've had no response. That's a blatant lie. It's the first letter I've had since I spoke to them on the phone 2 years ago telling them i didn't have a TV and would let them know if I decided to use one to watch their crap.
@@ruthguthrie1099 Did you give your name when you spoke to them 2 yrs ago? If so, they'll stop using it once you've received a certain number (a full cycle, I think) of their letters.
When they start anew, you will have miraculously become ' The Legal Occupier.
Just don't respond to them in any way, unless you _want_ to be on their books.
I've lived at my property for nearly 10 years. I've never owned a tv in my life and have no intention of getting one nor have I any intention of even watching tv. Anyway I never heard from tv licensing for years until the last few when people started canceling their license fee. Now I regularly get letters which I've been stacking up in a pile. They've even started removing all reference to tv licensing presumably to get you to at least open the letter but I'm onto their game. In nearly 10 years I've never had a visit. I've never responded to them and never will. They have no clue who I am and if anyone comes knocking I never tell them who I am until they've told me who they are and the purpose of their visit, and even then I sometimes wont tell them who I am, and if they refuse I just say have a nice day and shut the door.
After my wife died I returned all TV licence letters as, addressed is now deceased they then stated sending letters addressed to Mrs Deceased as she was the only one who watched the crap I cancelled the direct debit which she had set up to pay for it and filled in the declaration at TV licensing after which they informed me that it appears you do not require a licence and issued a partial REFUND . I thought it was great, but then 1 week later I had the one saying I'm down for a visit 2 weeks later i found a calling card from tv licencing goon they had called but i wasn't in but it included a direct debit instruction . It was consigned to the bin as will any more that come from the government propaganda politt bureau
I show them my ' No Cold Callers' sign and tell them to clear off and don't ignore it again. That's it.
Its like having to buy a driving licence if you don't own a car.
You can own a car without a licence too. I owned a car at 15
I have a driving licence, but no car. If I want to drive one, I need that licence. I also don't watch live TV or have a TV licence.
I did the no license needed. They are still sending letters to the occupier even though they have my name and confirmed I do not need a licence via email. So now i just ignore them. What is the point of having an opt-out option if you are gonna ignore it and hassel people anyway? 🤦♀️
I am a novice at having no TV Licence. At present I have received 1 email and 1 letter. I will obviously gain experience as time goes by.
It's very easy. Just ignore them.
I'm just over a year in now...Any letters from them go in the shredder...Goons get a "No Thank You" and the door shut in their face...
On November 1st 3years licence free all down to watching your videos best thing I've done loads of letters absolutely no visits.....thanks Chilli Jon 😀
I hope I get a red one for Christmas!
I had a running battle with the TV licensing body that lasted years.
I pay by direct debit and in the past they used to send a paper license through the post each year, which I kept under the TV (obviously). One year I received a similar threatening letter. I replied stating that I had a license and giving details. THEY replied, instructing me to send them the license (not a copy) so that they could verify. Big red flag!
Obviously I refused and told them if they wanted, they were welcome to come and look at it but no way was I going to post it to them.
They went quiet.
Until next year...
They will always address you as the Legal Occupier even though they know who occupies the property, I think that is to avoid being accused of harassment.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😎😎
I've had roughly 14 letters over the last 10 years telling me they are opening an investigation, and then numerous letters telling me there investigation is almost over before they start an investigation again, and still no one has come to my door. They are full of crap, but I'm very glad they keep sending me and everybody else letters because it costs them money.
i get about 3 or so about a month
More money spent on this. The less for the likes of Gary Gary Lineker
I don't even open them anymore haven't done for decades. Never had a visit ever.
This is very informative and reassuring. I cancelled recently at the grand age of 65, I haven’t swallowed the state propaganda since childhood.
It's like someone wanting me to pay car insurance or road tax if I don't have a car
Recently received an email, so I guess it's been two years since I told them I don't need a license, (or want one). To be fair, although the questions are repetitive, they are pretty straightforward and it takes about two minutes to read though and tick the right boxes. Job done.
Keep up the good work. This license is so unfair. MPs who voted for it are pathetic.
No license here for 25+ years, last year i ditched the TV completely. I'm not responding to them, they still regularly send me love letters though, which is sweet. I know i could simply let them know but why should I..? Its good entertainment recieving this rubbish, and i would be ecstatic if they paid a visit.
When you get one in the post, don’t open it, write on the unopened letter’ Unsolicited Mail’, ‘Return to Sender’. Do not put a stamp on it. Don’t open or bin them, keep returning them. It all adds to their losses, perfik!
I did it online to say I didn't need a licence. I put my name as Mr L Occupier
It worked lol
Falling more in love with you and your channel with each post. Best comedy on UA-cam! Thank you and keep at it mate!
I thought that "Demanding money with menaces" was against the law!! However, I have been wrong before!
Ring them , say your the occupier, dont give your name, tell them their " right of access is revoked " tell them your recording the phonecall and actually record it.
After that they cant even walk through your front gate. Ever.
I did this 15 years ago and since , weve never had a letter from them or a knock at the door.
I done this for a friend with mental health issues he didn't need one,there attitude was disgusting
Can we organise a video interview with somebody at TV Licensing to explain themselves.
you are doing Great work , highlighting the absurd waste of our money on intimidation by them to us , on a system of obvious propaganda and extremely cheap filler .
If the letter says to the occupier, I put it in the bin. I don't even open it.
Please send it back to them.. Let them pay to the Royal mail..
No don't send it back. It shows someone is at that address. Just ignore.
I always remove any details such as address or reference/account numbers before binning any letters
@@RedBull.RedBull Royal mail bins them😮😮
@@iamrocketray Royal Mail won't bin them, but they don't charge for returns though.
I filled in their online form a couple of weeks ago to say I do not need a Tv Licence. They acknowledged that my address does not require a Tv Licence and was given a ref. code valid until October 25. They also said they may still need to check but we won’t be in touch until your claim is about to expire. But if anything changes, we may write to you before that. Surely if anything changed and I wanted a Tv licence I would contact them first? What upset me, is I’ve now had the threatening letter in my late partner’s name, as in the past he had bought a licence at this address. Very distressing to me. If anyone knocks they’ll be lucky I answer the door as I work nights in a care home and sleep by day. I have my partner’s death certificate and a copy of the email they sent in my name, by the front door. 🤬🤬🤬
I've declared twice through an email and never got any visit, oh I was really looking forward to one too I'm soooo lonely, I normally ask if they're interested in Jesus saving them and do they want to talk about it... That normally scares people off.
Well done, "Present Occupier" 😂. Yes, they're kind enough to send me these harassing letters too. If they get opened (which only happens by accident) they go straight in the trash. Keep it up, Mr Occupier 👍
I have had alot of letter from tv licence but they never show up. I live in a rough area and was wondering if there are certain areas they dont come to?
There are certain areas of certain cultures that they won't go to. Hmm
I must be due a letter like that as any letter you receive I get a few days later . I love them wasting their money . Big thank you .
not wasting their money, wasting the money of people who for some reason keep voluntarily paying the subscription...
@ well it’s their money if people are silly or to worried . Unless of course they watch live tv and iplayer .
Ooohh.. can't wait to receive one of these new type threatograms...to add to my pile of 26 unopened old style threatograms... Bring it on 😁🤪😂😂😂
It honestly cracks me up with laughter, I've been at my current address for 18 YEARS...and NOT ONCE have I had a visit from TV licensing. And that despite not being bothered enough to answer any of their letters.
When I get a letter with that particular title....I think this... "getting this letter helps when I run out of toilet 🚽 paper"
@@Blatherskite824 but we have insist they send softer paper!
@@jfdomega7938 they may make an investigation for that though too 😅
They are pathetic. I used to get letters every month. I used to put on them return to sender , unwanted junk mail and pop it back in the post box . I havent had a letter now for 8 months. Theres no contact at the door, so life is a breeze. Great video
I quite often watch something I shouldn't. Those adult educational videos are..... quite interesting.
i watch tv everyday licence free 👍
@@warrior2871 Amazingly the telly works as good even if you don't have a TV license, or so I am told 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been in my current property 8 1/2 years had letters fro the first month I moved in. All to the current occupier, various investigations, various letters threatening visits, all of which have gone in the bin. Still waiting for the knock on the door. Simply ignore the bastards
You must be only country in the world that puts up with this type of bollicks if enough people say NO then maybe they'll stop or get new government
Plenty of mugs buy one too. It's pathetic
No, there are plenty of countries that do this. Aussie have it worse, their national broadcaster is government funded, so basically Aussies have to pay it as part of taxes.
lived in same council flat 15 years never had 1 goon come to door just those annoying threatening letters which to me seems like demanding money with menaces how do they get away with it the mind boggles lol
i notified the tv licensing inspectors of my fixed rate charges for a tour of my house (its not cheep, its inline with the license fee). and im yet to catch the buggers, they pop a note through the door and run. other people have taken a court order against them for harassment.
We have a wood burning stove. If they want to send me stuff to light it with, I'm very grateful.
Did my renewal of no licence needed declaration yesterday. Never had a visit as yet, but I did notice that the subject on the initial email was "Your No Licence Needed claim expires soon, please contact us." I am not claiming I do not need a TV licence, I am stating I do not need a licence...no claims are being made. Once I went through the process, I received another email stating and I quote "We'll notify you within 5 working days, to confirm details of your No Licence Needed declaration." Why not do it then and there.
Once I move to a house, I won't be informing them I don't need a licence again, I am only doing it whilst I am in my current place because I have done it for years.
Even if I don't need license, why should I give my name, personal details to the Private Company? TV licensing is private company.. Not a government organization. If they are government organization they could've easily retrieve my name from government database.
I did 7 years working collections for an energy retailer, and I could find an occupier's name in minutes. The idea that I've been under investigation for several months now and they still don't know my name is hilarious.
What details..... you don't no my name 😂😂😂😂😂
I am fully backing this true leader. He knows what has been going on.
Oh no, they've begun an investigation, whatever will you do! Quick, close the curtains, and hide behind the sofa. Or, alternatively, do nothing and ignore these idiots.
Mate, I haven't had a licence for 30 years. I get my monthly letter, addressed to the legal occupier, which goes into the recycling. I'm on the electoral register, it used to be around £3.00 to check, so the "investigation" is rubbish. I've never had a knock on the door.
Weve had 3 letters from them, but we just ignore them, i dont even watch telly
Please send it back to them.. Let them pay to the Royal mail..
Another great public interets clip, what a sham they are, why no one can take them to court for harassment ?
Not to sound like a tree hugger, but how many trees get chopped down just for the tv licence letters. They should be charged for the waste.
I got another letter yesterday. Basically issuing threats like they think they're mob bosses. Get stuffed.
Yeah had one last week.... Went in the bin
I had one a while back threatening me with a visit on a date two weeks prior to the delivery of the notice. My father worked for the Beeb in the '60s and '70s and I can hear him spinning in his grave from 250 miles away.
I send the letters back with the address scrubbed out, as with every unsolicited piece of material. Had one from the N H S, the other day, posted it back to them.
Make sure you scrub out the reference numbers too.
@@THE_DOGS_BOLLOCKS Good point, though here I do not care as no tv, and nothing associated with the Bent Boys Castration organisation
I used the declare no tv on line, even getting a refund and for 2 years nothing, no visit and no letters. Almost to the day 2 years later I received my first letter. Now on my second, I’m looking forward to the “never coming” visit. Please keep this up, but it certainly would appear you’re not reaching those vulnerable women that keep getting fined and criminal convictions. 😢
I just send the letters back saying 'occupier' isn't known at this address......occupier isn't my name !!!!
I'm interested to know if anyone EVER in the history of TV licence fines has been fined £1000 + ? I sat as a magistrate for many years and NEVER heard about or saw it.
The max is £1000 but I have never seen it being given.
Bet if they could fine me, I'd get it though
Maybe you've not being involved in the unscrupulous single justice (sic) procedure.
I've seen people on benefits being fined £20.
I would love to see who got this max fine £1000 and what judge decided to give it.
It would be interesting to see if any summonses to court have been issued to "The Present Occupier" ....... without a name how could anybody be summonsed ? As Capt. Mainwaring said ....." Don't tell them your name Pike"