Congrats the Nordic countries for having smart people and Goverments.We still stucked in 80s,90s in Germany with old school goverment here.Thank you and Bjorn to introduce us your beautiful country.
@@WilumSorensen I was a BMW fanboy for 25+ years... but I shall not buy any BMW ever anymore. The brand went down the drain in both design, quality and cost of maintenance.
It would be so great if we had the same situation in Germany… but no, instead we talk about German range anxiety in 2024!!! But still nice to see the future :)
@ You are totally right, but if you work for an OEM and most of your colleagues have an Anti-BEV-orientation, it’s not fun. I think it’s not wrong to say that most of the Germans are not innovation-friendly and open minded.
@@UnipornFrummI do not agree with this. I have a Tesla and have charged at many non Tesla chargers. I charge at Tesla when I can because it is much cheaper.
I spent a couple of days in Bergen several years ago before joining the Hurtigruten and even then it was “Tesla land”, they were everywhere. Funny thing, at 01:52 in this video a silver 2006 Mk5 VW Golf TDI came into the picture. I have exactly that same car here in Australia, same colour, same wheels, etc. It has been a fantastic car and I intend keeping it for many years to come. I’m not ready for an EV yet, the charging infrastructure in rural areas is simply not there so EV’s are mainly a city thing here.
Nice video which shows EV just works in contrast to what is said. I agree having a charger at home makes life a little bit easier, but if you have at every shop many 50 kW DC chargers, not having one at home is not an issue either. Better have 6x50 kW than one 300 kW DC charger at the shop, parking garage, etc., because it is cheaper to install and allows more cars to be charged. Anyway, in winter, no car will be able to charge at 300 kW if it is cold and typically you are in a shop for minimum of 30 minutes which should give you 100 km driving range at least. Maybe have a few high power charger for those who really need more.
The argument you're trying to make is flawed, this idea that people will charge when they do groceries or something just ins't happening. Mostly because people have a charger at home, and rarely need a high powered one, except for when they're going long distances. And secondly because usually your shopping is just in and out very quickly, or you're away for many hours. I'd rather have as many chargers as possible where the combined output is limited to whatever is physically possible to deliver to the location. Not 6 50kW or 1 300kW chargers.
Love this series. Keep it up. It's a great insight seeing Norway putting emphasis on the ubiquity of chargers to make the adoption a lot more digestible. I watched Bjorn a lot and witnessed the whole transformation in his 1000 km challenge series.
Just a point to make on the parking garage in Bergen. The next row is for front charging like Nissan Leaf. They put up that rule to make it easier with parking as the spots are very tight in that garage.
I used a public charger for the first time in 5 months over the weekend, just for the sheer hell of it… we charge 90% at home using solar.. but where we live, in the Netherlands, we have really dense charger coverage, to the point I think that we are the 2nd EV country, just behind Norway. Every parking garage has chargers, we have chargers located in neighbourhoods as on street chargers, fuel filling stations along the highways have chargers, McDonald’s has chargers, hotels etc…
It is funny to me how there are people saying no to nuclear energy because of its supposed level of danger. Meanwhile, the whole industry related to coal and oil, from mining to burning, takes many lives every year with regards to various forms of cancer that people who work with it slowly develop. But since these things happen slowly, people don't realize that coal, oil, gas, is indeed very dangerous.
Are you the one that was on the Out of Spec rally? That looked like so much fun. Greetings from the west coast of Canada where we just cracked the 20% level for new registrations and probably 1 - 2 % total so a long ways to go to catch up - lol! We have many EV haters still so full adoption will take decades unfortunately.
Yes I followed and subbed to your channel after watching the "Great Race" on Out of Spec I'm fascinated with Norway a future country to visit. Hello from Las Vegas.
The ev city in asia is Shenzen. Where December 2023 recorded 25% of cars on the road are EVs. 1 million EVs out of 4 million cars Registered in the city And all EV buses
@@RoamingNorwayseriously dude? Norway is the third highest per capita oil income country on the planet. It's the population of the state of Minnesota. Take a breather on the virtue signalling. Especially with most of you being hysterical Elon simps.
Impressing! And i am here in the US, driving my trusty body on frame v8 :D. I see a lot it subsidized and I feel we're not ready yet. I have a handful of coworkers who had EVs (even an ID4) and they're slowly going back to hybrids or ICE. There was a big hype around Covid and now it died down.
Yeah, but how come so many people afford such expensive cars? Many people would buy them, but with 30k + prices, that is not possible, especially in Eastern Europe
If you don't have home charging, EV ownership is still possible as long as you don't have long commutes. Meaning you'd only have to charge once per week or fortnightly.
Interesting thank you for the insight. I hope you don’t have the same problem with hundreds of apps and cards you need to charge like we do have in Germany.
Interesting to see the various EV charging options in Norway. Dedicated DC fast chargers for taxis are a must, IMO. Chicago ran into issues last winter by putting a lot of Uber drivers in Teslas, without installing charging to support them. I Iike the idea of having DC fast chargers at all grocery stores. For people without home charging, charging once per week when shopping can be a convenient, if expensive, solution. Having L2 charging everywhere is a great way to enable EV adoption, I agree. Somehow we need to get this to happen for apartment and condominium dwellers in the USA. All parking garages should have L2 charging available.
Every country on earth has sunlight. More and more solar and more and more batteries with some wind will do the same for the rest of the world. If every parking lots were covered in solar with battery megapacks, with additional windpower for the colder areas which causes hight winds in winter, there would be no need for any other type of power. Batteries are the key to it all. Lithium-Nickel, Lithium-Sulfur, LFP, Sodium-Sulfur, etc.
@@RoamingNorwayWhy have electricity prices increased in Norway? I thought Germany, UK, etc got hammered by natural gas supply disruption, but there should be no disruption or increased cost for Norway’s hydropower.
@@RoamingNorway Google AI overview says the shared market since August 2021 allows Norway to import electricity at night when it is inexpensive, and export during the day when it commands a high price. Sounds a bit fishy. I am going to have to dig deeper to see why that is increasing your residential rates.
Actually, the Real EV capital of the world is Shenzhen. All the taxis and buses are electric, not to mention half the world's EVs are made there, and it's the only city with more charging stations than gas stations. As a plus, it has the same climate as Hawaii, perfect for EVs
how is it posible the electric grid is so up to date in norway this is the problem in a lot of country.s why norway has not any problem with it? also the price for charging is so low how is that posible?
If all cars become EVs, then 4 to 5% of Norways electricity would be spent on charging. It might actually be less because oil refineries that produces gas for cars also use electricity which they now will use less off.
@@hemmper This story about the grid not being ready was for people who can't calculate. In my small country, I calculated that we need around an extra 150MW capacity to feed 100% EVs, given that they will drive as much as today. That is in my case 8% given the typical yearly baseline, but if we consider winter maximums, then 150MW is nothing. It could be easily 5% in Norway since Norway consumes normally much more electricity than other countries. Actually that 5% we save by switching to LED lights so yeah. .........
Norway, with its cold climate and electricity as the main source for heating homes and businesses, already has a fairly robust electricity grid. Also the rapid ongoing transition from energy-demanding panel ovens to energy-saving heat pumps contributes to freeing up capacity for charging electric cars. As an example, on an annual basis my house now requires only 2/3 of the energy compared to before I installed a heat pump.
Norwegian utilities have changed their fee structure in response to EV home charging. Part of your monthly electricity bill is now based on the three hours where you had the highest usage that month. This gives an incentive to not charge your car while having a high electricity consumption on other things. Which again means that the utilities do not have to invest as much in grid upgrades as they otherwise would have to.
Park garage and parking lot charging access is key to expansion here in America . Things are going to be slow here for the next 4 years (things will move forward due to momentum of the rest of the world also Elon will hopefully keep Trump at least to not be a negative to EVs ). They will remove californias epa waiver but the car manufacturers will still have to plan for a possible flip back in 2028 so they will push slowly towards EVs here It is admirable that the government and the people of Norway worked together to get this done. I would be nice if that happened here but it was slow going with Biden and it will be sloth level speeds for the next 4(?) years
That are great insights! Many thanks for this video! Most people don't see this yet, so it's really interesting to see that it just works. I expected it to work of course... (and sorry for my other comment just with smileys, I wanted to applaud the "first" one in a fun way).
The city is an international centre for aquaculture, shipping, the offshore petroleum industry and subsea technology.....the economy is based on exporting OIL and GAS
Norway is richer per head than Switzerland. Why having extra road fees when this could be collected from petrol or diesel. Switzerland charges an annual Fr40 freeway tax. Then all public roads are free.
It is being collected from petrol & diesel, but it is not enough, especially now that people drive EVs. Norway has the most expensive roads in the world for many reasons. The road network in Norway has required the world longest road tunnel, the world longest underwater road tunnel and a bunch of the worlds largest bridges so far. From my research, Switz roads cost the same to make as Norwegian ones per km.
Still high cost to build EV charger infrastructure in most countries, need car co or govt put in most investment like in Norway, Many countries still can’t afford it !! 😊
Model Y is not the most popular car in the world, it is still Toyota and there are reasons that you do not buy gas cars because you are punished if you do in Norway.
Model Y was the most sold car in the world in 2023, not any Toyota. I think people also choose EVs because of the ability to charge overnight, no need to ever go to a gas station. It is awesome.
@@RoamingNorway Most sold car model. It is easier to claim having the most sold car when you only make two viable cars that many people would buy (3 and Y). The legacy brands have many more models and are much bigger than Tesla in a total sense. But sure, they can have the title of most sold car model in the world. I'm just clarifying that, having that title does not mean the company itself is somehow the biggest or most consequential there is in the industry. I'd wager Toyota or VW Group holds that "title". Nothing against EV:s, would love to own one. Just pointing out the fact that these titles, mean very little by themselves. You have to dig a bit deeper than that.
Congrats the Nordic countries for having smart people and Goverments.We still stucked in 80s,90s in Germany with old school goverment here.Thank you and Bjorn to introduce us your beautiful country.
Thank you so much!🙌
@@RoamingNorway bet . The first city with a population of over 1 million. And the percentage of EVs on the road is 100% in China.
Hope to see this all over the world. I ride my bmw ce-04 to work every day and I'm tired of breathing car and truck fumes every day.
Recently bought my first EV. I now use any excuse to take a drive.
Buy a bmw and you will male even more exuses to drive
@@WilumSorensen Yes, if you get the best BMW, the BMW i3s!
@@RoamingNorway 😂😂😂 my uncle has a i4 m50 and thing is more boring to drive then a damm lawnmover my dads hyundai diesel more fun
@@WilumSorensen Yeah it's not the i3
@@WilumSorensen I was a BMW fanboy for 25+ years... but I shall not buy any BMW ever anymore. The brand went down the drain in both design, quality and cost of maintenance.
Norway is showing the path for the rest of the World. EV everywhere !
Where are they going to get money for EVs? Norway has it from oil.
sure. by removing the fees. so really all the other cars should be half price too.
Other cars should be 20% more expensive. Not half. Even with that difference, most people would go for EVs.
It would be so great if we had the same situation in Germany… but no, instead we talk about German range anxiety in 2024!!!
But still nice to see the future :)
I have driven my EV to Germany many times, you have pretty good charger coverage!
@ You are totally right, but if you work for an OEM and most of your colleagues have an Anti-BEV-orientation, it’s not fun.
I think it’s not wrong to say that most of the Germans are not innovation-friendly and open minded.
in uk the only realistic place to charge is the tesla network,but not all locations are open for non-tesla
@@UnipornFrummI do not agree with this. I have a Tesla and have charged at many non Tesla chargers. I charge at Tesla when I can because it is much cheaper.
I spent a couple of days in Bergen several years ago before joining the Hurtigruten and even then it was “Tesla land”, they were everywhere. Funny thing, at 01:52 in this video a silver 2006 Mk5 VW Golf TDI came into the picture. I have exactly that same car here in Australia, same colour, same wheels, etc. It has been a fantastic car and I intend keeping it for many years to come. I’m not ready for an EV yet, the charging infrastructure in rural areas is simply not there so EV’s are mainly a city thing here.
I don't love my '23 Chevy Bolt EUV but I knew what I was getting and I content with it and pleased to have switched to EVs
Well done Norway, leading the way.
Nice video which shows EV just works in contrast to what is said. I agree having a charger at home makes life a little bit easier, but if you have at every shop many 50 kW DC chargers, not having one at home is not an issue either. Better have 6x50 kW than one 300 kW DC charger at the shop, parking garage, etc., because it is cheaper to install and allows more cars to be charged. Anyway, in winter, no car will be able to charge at 300 kW if it is cold and typically you are in a shop for minimum of 30 minutes which should give you 100 km driving range at least. Maybe have a few high power charger for those who really need more.
The argument you're trying to make is flawed, this idea that people will charge when they do groceries or something just ins't happening. Mostly because people have a charger at home, and rarely need a high powered one, except for when they're going long distances. And secondly because usually your shopping is just in and out very quickly, or you're away for many hours.
I'd rather have as many chargers as possible where the combined output is limited to whatever is physically possible to deliver to the location. Not 6 50kW or 1 300kW chargers.
Charging needs to be dimensioned for the expected dwelling time at the place.
@@foobar6846How is the argument flawed? In the UK supermarkets are fitting 100kW chargers. It does work.
Be proud of your country Norway 🇳🇴
Love this series. Keep it up. It's a great insight seeing Norway putting emphasis on the ubiquity of chargers to make the adoption a lot more digestible. I watched Bjorn a lot and witnessed the whole transformation in his 1000 km challenge series.
Just a point to make on the parking garage in Bergen. The next row is for front charging like Nissan Leaf. They put up that rule to make it easier with parking as the spots are very tight in that garage.
Correct!
I used a public charger for the first time in 5 months over the weekend, just for the sheer hell of it… we charge 90% at home using solar.. but where we live, in the Netherlands, we have really dense charger coverage, to the point I think that we are the 2nd EV country, just behind Norway. Every parking garage has chargers, we have chargers located in neighbourhoods as on street chargers, fuel filling stations along the highways have chargers, McDonald’s has chargers, hotels etc…
Wow, huge shock, removing pumps already!
UK is not too far behind, maybe about 5-7yrs
Closer, I think! But the last 20% will be difficult!
In Poland we have coal and smog and 40000 deaths / year becouse of air pollution, and its fine. We love this
I hope you are being satirical.
@@paulc6766 Take a look at air pollution map in winter season in Poland.
It is funny to me how there are people saying no to nuclear energy because of its supposed level of danger. Meanwhile, the whole industry related to coal and oil, from mining to burning, takes many lives every year with regards to various forms of cancer that people who work with it slowly develop. But since these things happen slowly, people don't realize that coal, oil, gas, is indeed very dangerous.
Ugh this is literally a dream to see. The USA needs to hurry up.. But i dont think itll happen :(
Slowly moving there
It is a matter of time, IMO. Taking more time than I would like…
really impressive from norway
Are you the one that was on the Out of Spec rally? That looked like so much fun. Greetings from the west coast of Canada where we just cracked the 20% level for new registrations and probably 1 - 2 % total so a long ways to go to catch up - lol! We have many EV haters still so full adoption will take decades unfortunately.
Correct, I was in the i7!
Yes I followed and subbed to your channel after watching the "Great Race" on Out of Spec
I'm fascinated with Norway a future country to visit. Hello from Las Vegas.
The ev city in asia is Shenzen.
Where December 2023 recorded 25% of cars on the road are EVs.
1 million EVs out of 4 million cars Registered in the city And all EV buses
Still lower fleet percentage and lower adoption rate, but great to see!
@@RoamingNorwayseriously dude? Norway is the third highest per capita oil income country on the planet. It's the population of the state of Minnesota. Take a breather on the virtue signalling. Especially with most of you being hysterical Elon simps.
@@RoamingNorway I think Shenzen should be compared to Norway.Because Shenzen has a population of 17.5 million.
@@AlfarrisiMuammar25% of the cars on the road are also electric in Norway outside the big cities.
@@onetwothreefour-s1n And your point is?
Impressing! And i am here in the US, driving my trusty body on frame v8 :D. I see a lot it subsidized and I feel we're not ready yet. I have a handful of coworkers who had EVs (even an ID4) and they're slowly going back to hybrids or ICE. There was a big hype around Covid and now it died down.
Happy to see people choose exactly what they want to use
Yeah, but how come so many people afford such expensive cars? Many people would buy them, but with 30k + prices, that is not possible, especially in Eastern Europe
The average new car price in Norway is over 50K euros. A Tesla is considered mid-to-low priced.
Nice to see you "home" again, William!
How did you like the I-90 Surge?
Will you post a separate video on it, too? 🙂
Yes
@@RoamingNorway Great, thanks in advance 💚
@@RoamingNorwayGreat. I am loving the OOS I-90 videos, and look forward to yours. 😎
If you don't have home charging, EV ownership is still possible as long as you don't have long commutes. Meaning you'd only have to charge once per week or fortnightly.
Or the possibility to charge at your job I did that for a year
Interesting thank you for the insight. I hope you don’t have the same problem with hundreds of apps and cards you need to charge like we do have in Germany.
There has been a little bit of an app chaos, yeah
Very interesting to see! I’d love to see more of this
Freekin amazing!!!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Bergen er fantastisk og veldig vakkert. Kjøpte min biller i Haugesund og Bergen. Mennesker er meget fint også :) EXCITED å besøk igjen.
Interesting to see the various EV charging options in Norway.
Dedicated DC fast chargers for taxis are a must, IMO. Chicago ran into issues last winter by putting a lot of Uber drivers in Teslas, without installing charging to support them.
I Iike the idea of having DC fast chargers at all grocery stores. For people without home charging, charging once per week when shopping can be a convenient, if expensive, solution.
Having L2 charging everywhere is a great way to enable EV adoption, I agree. Somehow we need to get this to happen for apartment and condominium dwellers in the USA. All parking garages should have L2 charging available.
why is the skoda enyaq not seen so often in norway i think it looks amazing
It is quite popular. I think it sells more than the ID.4 at the moment.
Nice vid! 👍
how is the air quality downtown?
Norway has another advantage compared to other countries - hydro energy ! That makes the prices stable and cheaper compared to other neighbors.
Very true, but energy prices have been increasing in Norway lately, sometimes reaching the level of our neighboors.
Every country on earth has sunlight. More and more solar and more and more batteries with some wind will do the same for the rest of the world. If every parking lots were covered in solar with battery megapacks, with additional windpower for the colder areas which causes hight winds in winter, there would be no need for any other type of power.
Batteries are the key to it all. Lithium-Nickel, Lithium-Sulfur, LFP, Sodium-Sulfur, etc.
@@RoamingNorwayWhy have electricity prices increased in Norway? I thought Germany, UK, etc got hammered by natural gas supply disruption, but there should be no disruption or increased cost for Norway’s hydropower.
@@georgepelton5645 Shared energy market since 2021.
@@RoamingNorway Google AI overview says the shared market since August 2021 allows Norway to import electricity at night when it is inexpensive, and export during the day when it commands a high price.
Sounds a bit fishy. I am going to have to dig deeper to see why that is increasing your residential rates.
Wiliam, I think it'd also be nice to say the prices of chargers when you show them 🙂
Good point! Thanks for the feedback.
Yes agree
Actually, the Real EV capital of the world is Shenzhen. All the taxis and buses are electric, not to mention half the world's EVs are made there, and it's the only city with more charging stations than gas stations. As a plus, it has the same climate as Hawaii, perfect for EVs
Most Norwegian cities have more charging stations than gas stations👌 Also, there are only electric taxied and buses.
how is it posible the electric grid is so up to date in norway this is the problem in a lot of country.s why norway has not any problem with it? also the price for charging is so low how is that posible?
If all cars become EVs, then 4 to 5% of Norways electricity would be spent on charging. It might actually be less because oil refineries that produces gas for cars also use electricity which they now will use less off.
@@hemmper This story about the grid not being ready was for people who can't calculate. In my small country, I calculated that we need around an extra 150MW capacity to feed 100% EVs, given that they will drive as much as today. That is in my case 8% given the typical yearly baseline, but if we consider winter maximums, then 150MW is nothing. It could be easily 5% in Norway since Norway consumes normally much more electricity than other countries. Actually that 5% we save by switching to LED lights so yeah. .........
Norway, with its cold climate and electricity as the main source for heating homes and businesses, already has a fairly robust electricity grid. Also the rapid ongoing transition from energy-demanding panel ovens to energy-saving heat pumps contributes to freeing up capacity for charging electric cars. As an example, on an annual basis my house now requires only 2/3 of the energy compared to before I installed a heat pump.
A lot of EV's are also charged at night when the electrisity consumption and prices are lower.
Norwegian utilities have changed their fee structure in response to EV home charging. Part of your monthly electricity bill is now based on the three hours where you had the highest usage that month.
This gives an incentive to not charge your car while having a high electricity consumption on other things. Which again means that the utilities do not have to invest as much in grid upgrades as they otherwise would have to.
Park garage and parking lot charging access is key to expansion here in America . Things are going to be slow here for the next 4 years (things will move forward due to momentum of the rest of the world also Elon will hopefully keep Trump at least to not be a negative to EVs ). They will remove californias epa waiver but the car manufacturers will still have to plan for a possible flip back in 2028 so they will push slowly towards EVs here
It is admirable that the government and the people of Norway worked together to get this done. I would be nice if that happened here but it was slow going with Biden and it will be sloth level speeds for the next 4(?) years
That are great insights!
Many thanks for this video!
Most people don't see this yet, so it's really interesting to see that it just works. I expected it to work of course...
(and sorry for my other comment just with smileys, I wanted to applaud the "first" one in a fun way).
Its 47% of all cars on the street, just now, nut since 96% of new cars are electric its going up every day.
The city is an international centre for aquaculture, shipping, the offshore petroleum industry and subsea technology.....the economy is based on exporting OIL and GAS
Correct
Norway is richer per head than Switzerland. Why having extra road fees when this could be collected from petrol or diesel. Switzerland charges an annual Fr40 freeway tax. Then all public roads are free.
inefficient bureaucracy. no profit motive to whip employees intonshape
It is being collected from petrol & diesel, but it is not enough, especially now that people drive EVs. Norway has the most expensive roads in the world for many reasons. The road network in Norway has required the world longest road tunnel, the world longest underwater road tunnel and a bunch of the worlds largest bridges so far. From my research, Switz roads cost the same to make as Norwegian ones per km.
man, you guys are living in a different world. jealous.
Wtf i3 is one of the ugliest cars ever made. Like Twingo and vacoom cleaner combined. Not a fan of the design of the newer BMWs anyway.
Best car BMW ever made
@@RoamingNorway Bro... 😂
Still high cost to build EV charger infrastructure in most countries, need car co or govt put in most investment like in Norway, Many countries still can’t afford it !! 😊
Actually they can't afford not to adopt.
They rather invest in fossil industries 😢
@@rmkkkk Or better yet, horses.
I agree, but most of the infrastructure in Norway is not state financed.
@@RoamingNorway in norway you're the leading example how to do things. Here in Finland they talk about raising EV taxes higher than gas
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Model Y is not the most popular car in the world, it is still Toyota and there are reasons that you do not buy gas cars because you are punished if you do in Norway.
Model Y was the most sold car in the world in 2023, not any Toyota. I think people also choose EVs because of the ability to charge overnight, no need to ever go to a gas station. It is awesome.
@@RoamingNorway Most sold car model. It is easier to claim having the most sold car when you only make two viable cars that many people would buy (3 and Y). The legacy brands have many more models and are much bigger than Tesla in a total sense. But sure, they can have the title of most sold car model in the world. I'm just clarifying that, having that title does not mean the company itself is somehow the biggest or most consequential there is in the industry. I'd wager Toyota or VW Group holds that "title".
Nothing against EV:s, would love to own one. Just pointing out the fact that these titles, mean very little by themselves. You have to dig a bit deeper than that.