THE THING is a Horror Classic
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The Thing doesn’t “take over” other bodies. It absorbs the other body as sustenance and then can shape itself to mimic the absorbed. The Thing definitely knows it is The Thing. It has always been The Thing.
Well, another reason why The Thing (and Blade Runner) both failed financially is because at the time, everybody was experiencing a recession and they didn’t want “nihilistic” movies to remind them of that. E.T. was full of joy and they stuck with it.
Great job covering one of the greats in the horror genre 😊😊
I can cite The Thing(1982) as one of the many reasons why I'm proud to be Canadian as it was shot in Stewart British Columbia Canada
I believe it was shot both there and just over the Alsakan border. Not clear on that despite watching all the special features on the Scream Factory Collector's Edition Blu-ray
But hey, I from Hardin County Kentucky, which is 70 miles north of Smith's Grove and Bowling Green (John's hometown)
Many places in both Halloween and Halloween 2 are towns and counties in Kentucky.
The dog transformation doll was'nt done by Botin but by Stan WInston, because Botin was on the hospital due to exhaustion, neumonia and ulcer
Bottin was literally almost worked himself to death.
A masterpiece of paranoid horror. The effects are haunting to this day. Great review as usual boys.
Thanks Artie!
This was the third and final movie written by Bill Lancaster, with the other two being The Bad News Bears (1976) and its sequel.
And the breathing theory makes no sense. You can see the breath of multiple things during the movie (the Bennings-Thing has a lot of visible breath before it gets burned) and it wouldn't make any sense since it perfectly copies an organism which means it would also produce heat. Plus you can actually see Childs breath, it's just not that extreme, probably because he doesn't breathe as heavily as McReady and because of the lighting. Which makes sense, both are tired, but McReady just had a boss battle and Childs just wandered around in the snow, so obviously he doesn't breathe as heavily. And I think Carpenter was joking when he said it was 'obviously' the proof.
It could have been halfway assimilated and thus producing the breath heat. That being said something like the thing would most likely produce heat as it copies the cells and therefore the metabolism which produces heat and energy
Hes also said that neither where infected, so it may be hes jist messing with us
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Funny to me Ennio gets ALL the credit but a lot of the soundtrack was done by John Carpenter and Alan Howarath. And you can tell when its them VS Ennio's mostly orchestral soundtrack.
Stoked you guys are covering this, it’s easily one of my top 5 favorite horror movies
Happy to hear it!
Ya I remember having ET and Thing on VHS 📼 at same time that's probly why I waited 20 yearz to watc whole Thing movie
A diopter split-focus lens was used in several shots of the scene with MacReady and Fuchs in the lab. MacReady, standing in the doorway in the background, and Fuchs, sitting at the desk in the foreground, are both in sharp focus. This would be impossible to do in-camera without a split-focus lens. Brian De Palma often uses this technique in his films.
This has beyond earned it’s cult status.
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He’s lucky he lived long enough to enjoy the fact that episode realized how good he was. Several artists didn’t become famous until after they passed away
Ppl hated It cause it was so brutal wit the dog scenes and many more 😂
I never agreed with the gasoline in the bottle theory. The thing knows what you, has your same aversions, and thus would know “this is not Scotch”. It’s part of the mimicry. In my opinion, both froze to death.
A strange hypothesis and it assimilates all the knowledge of the being.
“You gotta be fucking kidding”
Sick reference bro, your references are out of control, everybody knows that
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ spoken by one of the false men.
When I was a kid i use to have the Thing on VHS 📼 and I never watched it I was only like 8 years old I was born in 81" I finally watched whole movie when I was in my 20s or 30s and it scared me so badly I had nightmares for 2 days straight lol and loved it ever since
@@SouthPhilaMilla that’s awesome
Greatest movie ever made, in my humble opinion.
Agreed
The Thing(1982) came out on the same day as Blade Runner both movies are in my Top 5 favorite movies of all time
the song from the 70’s playing is Superstition by Stevie Wonder
One of my all time favourite horror movies. It wasn't just gore, it was mystery, suspense and sci-fi. How could any sci-fi fan say this was bad? Story line and acting is brillant, the effects blew me away when I saw this as a kid in the 90s. Even today the special effects look so realistic beats CGI no contest.
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Maybe the Thing are the friends we made along the way.
Ennio Morricone didn’t deserve the Razzie
Such a dumb thing they ddi
Childs is The Thing at the end of the movie, and likely Mac realizes it, but not because Childs drank from the bottle. The Thing imitates its victims “perfectly”, meaning in that form The Thing would have taste buds that function just like ours. So, if there was gasoline, some other kind of petroleum-based liquid in the bottle instead of whiskey, The Thing would have tasted it. No, Mac knows Childs is The Thing because of the bogus story he gave him. The last time he saw Childs was from a distance when Childs stumbled out of the main building into the snowstorm. Childs told Mac moments ago it was because “thought I saw Blair” but this explanation is ridiculous because it was mere seconds after Childs left the camp that the power was cut. Even then, back in the toolshed with Garry and Nauls, MacReady knew it was because Blair had got back inside and blew the generator. Blair had to be under the main building in order to disable the generator, and this was while Childs was heading outside.
Also, when Childs was convinced that MacReady was The Thing, and he was outside trying to get back in, Childs just wanted to keep him outside. He even insisted that Mac had to be The Thing because “Nothing human could have made it back here in this of weather without a guideline”. But, now he is trying to convince Mac that he thought it was a good idea to pursue Blair out into a snowstorm? Blair, who he couldn’t have seen because he had to be under the main building getting ready to kill the generator.
The book is pretty good too, and there's a couple of radio presentations that are good, of "Who Goes There?"
Good job guys! Like your perspectives on the film
Thanks!
Ennio Morricone Albert Whitlock Stan Winston and Rob Bottin worked together on The Thing(1982) especially Bill Lancaster the son of Burt Lancaster
What I find amazing is why E.T. was so popular at the time. Ok it's a feel good family film but really that's all it is. Is it talked about much today or seen in any way shape or form a masterpiece, no. I can understand why the thing wasn't well received but not to that extent. The thing is and always was a masterpiece. 1982 also has more good films in that year compared to the last 10.
The Thing absorbs and imitates a person perfectly. When it imitated Norris, it imitated his heart problem, Norris' heart attack was genuine.
The attempt to duplicate Benning's implies that The Thing IS the person. It knows what it is. IT'S HIDING!
The other dogs DO react to the Thing when it enters the cage.
Blair builds a space ship, so MUST have been aware.
Palmer only shows himself AFTER he has been revealed by the blood test, but he didn't know if the test would work, so he waited it out.
The Thing WOULDN'T be able to tell gasoline from alcohol. Having human taste buds does not automatically give you the ability to identify everything.
The Norwegian shooting at the 'dog' in the beginning wasn't a 'bad shot'. What effect would bullets have on a shapeshifter?
BTW, he actually says, "Get away from it, you fools. It's not a dog. It's a thing!"
In the chess scene, the computer actually does make an illegal move
John Carpenter considers this to be the first of his Apocalypse trilogy. Prince of Darkness (1987) and In the Mouth of Madness (1994) comprise the other two parts of the trilogy.
The original "Universal" world logo was not used in the films opening credits because of confusion between the logo and then the saucer crashing into the Earth. One suggestion was to use the logo, zoom into space then see the saucer crash into the logo/earth. Instead to avoid confusion a simple white titles against black was used.
Universal Studios executive Sid Sheinberg added a second tagline, "The ultimate in Alien Terror," simply to have the word "Alien" in there to capitalize on the Ridley Scott film.
One of the few "Universal" films which does not open with the "Universal" logo. Others include "The Blues Brothers (1980)" and Steven Spielberg's "1941 (1979)."
Just found your channel and loving the vibe of this vid so far. Awesome to get such a deep dive into this masterpiece. Keep up the awesome work lads!
Thanks so much!
The alien in the story is an upgraded shoggoth.
I know it's an absolute crime that The Thing was hated when it was first released, however it was a blessing in disguise. If it hadn't flopped in 1982, Carpenter wouldn't have taken on Christine soon after. In my opinion, Christine is his second best film of his career, and that movie could've been way worse under a different director.
The lighting is confirmed, according to the videographer. However, it ONLY applies to the blood test scene, unlike some other people claim. They used the trick only to show Palmer wasn't human, from what I remember. This camera trick isn't used consistently in other shots.
eye lighting*.
I watched a special effects show ( may have been corridor digital) where they said, in the Thing 2011 all the special effects were practical, like the original but the studio demanded CGI and covered it all up.
That’s the thing playing with the idea of chest pains. So they’ll believe he had a human issue
Crazy how the so called 'Critics' slammed it... this is one of the best films iv ever seen Kurt Russell is perfect in it
If Carpenter comes back to do a sequel I will be there day 1. I can’t think of anyone better to do it than him.
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I’m actually listening to this episode for the first time and I came to mention two things!
In the prequel they actually built a prop for the set and were going to show what the thing looked like, which was close to the book’s description. In the book it was black with three red eyes and kinda like tentacles all over its body. I kind of always liked the idea that that might not have even been it’s true form given how it eats.
2. Was that in the book as they’re describing the thing they mention the idea it’s not evil. There’s this whole conversation that it might just exist this way and this is its way surviving and living, not necessarily making it bad or evil given that’s subjective and human-based construct! Sort of gives the movie a different feel too
Oh man next time I watch it I’m going to take the perspective that it’s not motivated by evil! Just a dominating life form 👏🏻
I’m still catching up on your guys videos I’m finishing the flash review rn but I cannot wait to see The Thing review!!! Keep dropping bangers
Thanks bro!
Shout out Gene Siskel from "Siskel and Ebert", who was one of the only film critics to give this a positive review and recommend it!
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Damn! I was waiting for you guys to talk about Garry’ untie me line.
My all time favorite horror movie🙏 so glad opinions match😅 pressing like and looking forward to learning smth new about this masterpiece. Thats why I love ur podcast, always full of interesting info and facts about movies🙏
Appreciate that!
My favourite part was when they found the millennium falcon 😅
And Chewie frozen in the ice!
When it came out in 1982 most people wanted E.T. not the Thing. I saw The Thing first.
Bill Hader wanted to pay homage to The Thing(1982) regarding It:Chapter Two
Why would another Norris breakout of his body? I think Norris was slowly taken over and just about done but when Norris got hit with the jumper cables the Thing had to bust out of his body a tad early.
You guys should get more likes and views. This is a pretty down to earth and humble podcast 😊
Thanks!
That was not gasoline in the bottle, Mac was mid raising to drink it when Childs walked up behind him. The Thing no breath is stupid, it would be a perfect imiatation of a man and would breathe, WHY would they just not do instead of the bloodtest when hey lets walk aside visible breath test. Some folks are too desperate for definitive answer they don't think about it as they should.
Palmer doesnt show light during bloodtest.
And ok, Childs is thing, WHY make contact with The Thing slayer MacReady? Childs thing would sit down on other side of camp and just go to sleep. Or, OR: MacReady is now ONLY armed with a Colt Trooper Mk3 .357 Magnum revolver which is useless against Thing but super effective on people. Childs Thing is armed with a US Army M2 Nepalm Flamethrower assuming with fuel, why would The Thing not just walk up to him and fry the definitve Thing Slayer by the method Mac slayed Things with as retribution, then sit down and go to sleep for rescue team. See Carpenter has said many thing because he loves this reaction and he's toying with the audience and tans because thats the point and horror of The Thing. There is no definitive answer but the one you go with.
So whats my theory? Whats my ending? The one Carpenter intended: we DO NOT KNOW. MacReady is just tired and gambled big and now he just wants to sleep. The point of this film is we do not know who is or isn't Thing, we don't even know the cells are cells as we know it according to Blair deleted scene with Doc Copper and Fuchs. So i love this film, but honestly a LOT of fan theories especially the Collative Learning channel posted, yeah if you asked certain question like the gas in J&B bottle Mac was mid raising to drink, the breath is simply lighting: Mac is in between flames from behind him and camera of other end. Only that flame light from across the scene is lighting which is nowhere near as bright. Plus, you don't think Mac kept a J&B bottle for this occasion? Doubt that, that man would what at least 1 5th to drink himself stupid as he freezes to death.
Childs has a different coat do we actually know that staying outside in an Antarctic blizzard? Like it would be coated with snow and ice fog condensing ice to your clothes. So i don't buy that either. Thing Childs would either not risk making contact it had been very strategic up to this point, don't buy it. OR Childs Thing would slay the Thing Slayer with Mac's own weapon, a Nepalm Flamethrower.
Childs IS a Thing, no he's not. Childs IS Human, no he's not. We do not know. The theories that Mac was a Thing through most of it... just go listen for yourselves. Truth is, not knowing, not having certainty to have closure is the really scary part and how a horror film is supposed to end: worst case scenario is the ending. Halloween, Loomis shoots him off a balcony with a S&W Model 15 .38 Special 6 shots, he looks to find Michael is gone and when he's not at all shocked with the look I knew this would happen confirming EVERYTHING Loomis said about Michael, that he's not a man and leaving that with all frames we saw him in stalking or attacking with the sound of his bellowing breathing, ending on his house where the 1st frame of the beginning is with his breathing getting louder and longer and more intense, He LIVES, IT LIVES, cut print roll it. The Thing has a similar ending in that the worst horror of this film is not knowing who is an imitation or human, but we know its here and hiding. Or... we think its here and hiding. The 1st 3 guys separated weren't Things in fact Mac ordered Norris Thing to shoot them up with morphine and watch them.
Thats my arguments.
I like Rob Ager, but the gasoline theory is ridiculous.
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And yes, I'm pretty sure there is a whole race of things (or maybe it has some hivemind stuff going on and all of its different forms are basically one being) since it was on many planets before and probably didn't always landed in some arctic waste. So it probably turned entire planets into things basically like the flood in Halo. Maybe once it infected a whole planet, it just builds a bunch of spaceships, but some of its mass into each of them and sends them away searching for more planets with biomass and then infecting them. So the thing in the movie is basically just a single seed of a giant disgusting dandelion. It would also give an interesting answer to the Fermi paradox: all civilizations that draw attention to themselves get consumed by the thing and that's the explanation why we don't see any signs of intelligent life in space (although to counter that, the thing itself would probably actively try to draw attention by pretending to be just a nice alien race that tries to find life in the universe as well and it would have super advanced technology to do that).
3:37 Thomas Waltz?!?
The old xbox game of The Thing was a really good sequel to the film. The one thing I actually hate about this awesome film....was the critical response to it at the time. They slaughtered it because "horror bad" at the time 😡😤😤
Unbelievable
The remake was supposed to be a foreshadowing of what the 1982 storyline was and how it started with the Norwegian expedition.
Jerry Goldsmith was set to compose the score for The Thing(1982) but he dropped out and Ennio Morricone got hired
Greetings from London. Fantastic discussion and review guys. One of my fav movies ever. I'm always baffled that if the Thing can't re-create non-biological stuff like metal then why do we see belt buckles or spectacle frames not being an issue? Makes me think haha.
Thanks so much! So when it transforms, it quickly finds new clothes to put on, that’s why they find torn clothing a few times
You know what would've been a cool ending for The Thing? The thing as a Malamute/Husky escaping from the camp and McReady and Childs chasing it, finding like an abandoned camp somewhere with a helicopter, a rifle and some explosives and using it to continue their chase of the thing, And in the very end they show a sign of a Russian outpost or some other country. And then you just make the same movie with different actors over and over at outposts of different countries. Bam. Infinite cash cow. I would watch all of them.
Hell yeah!
I like it when you guys do older movies I love and this is definitely one of them. Still waiting on the good the bad and the ugly movie review
Thanks!! Oh we’re planning to do that soon!!
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The Thing(1982) got ranked Number 48 on Bravo’s 100 Scariest Movie Moments
Great video fellas
Dean Cundey pushed for the use of anamorphic lenses rather than use spherical lenses
BENNINGS NOT CLARK! Get the names straight guys!
So...which of you two is The Thing?
James obviously
Malamute? The dog ?
I oppose this having a sequel as much as a sequel to Halloween. Both endings are perfect that grow more fear than anything throughout the movie because it poses an unanswerable question with a dark leaning on worst case answer but not outright answered.
Raiders Clark was never turned because the dog thing knew he would too obvious since he was a dog lover
I think child’s is definitely the thing at the end, but I can see the many other theories being correct also
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Please do a Hateful 8 movie it's one of my favorite movies ever
Consider it done 🫡
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ I'm so excited.
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Thing out live all fools 🤪 and flim credit.
Let this film be a reminder:
Critics are pretentious silly people, always has been. The audience and fans simultaneously being critical is the opinion I'm more interest in, Not Ebert.
Totally agree. Ebert was wrong on many great movies and sometimes changed his mind 15 years later. Critics are wrong more than they are right. 😮😮
The 2011 wasn't bad but had its weaknesses indeed, some of them were pretty unplesant.
They were sort of forced to use CGI because the studio thought that all the practical effects they already had made the movie look like a 1980s movie so they demanded to replace it with CGI.
Still, The Thing 2011 was good for what it was.
Check out the handmade split face monster they had before the studio had demanded the use of CGI : ua-cam.com/video/Eb5yHj5xfOs/v-deo.html
Whoever green-lit the remake of this, hopefully lost their position in that company lmao this movie is too iconic for that nonsense.
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They want to remake a film that did horribly when it came out - can we all appreciate the irony in that?
@@Magneticlaw It's not as ironic anymore, nowadays it is established as one of the best (if not the best) movies of it's genre. And the prequel wasn't half bad, especially if you compare it to the horror movie sequel shitshow.
How many fans are going to remind you guys that Clarke is never the thing!!! The weird hand guy is Bennings!😅
Malamootay 😂😂😂
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Anout damn time!! 👏 👽 🎉
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@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ LFG Indeed. 😎
Critics stink. I mean look at Rotten Tomatoes. They collude to throw their weight around. It's a pathetic tendency. NEVER listen to critics.
Dude doesn't even know that the Alaskan MALAMUTE is the name of a dog BREED. Pronounced just like it's spelled😅
I thought these guys would have something new to say instead of the same old tired nonsensical theories that many others have. Just think about it PRACTICALLY. Kurt Russell was the only big star in this movie right? If you're the director and you're thinking this was going to be a blockbuster, and therefore sequel potential, you would make Kurt Russell the thing simply because of the possibilities of where the story could go. A then unknown Keith David? Cmon'
Relax bud
what is that triangle decoration ? looks familiar
Deathly Hallows!