My Personal Dislike of Dungeons & Dragons
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Burger, do a video about millenial communists that fight against nazi cyborgs in animie.
Kuh muh
(Insert facepalm meme here)
That moment when you weren't ready for the punchline and now your stomach hurts XD
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? What are you referring to?
The closest animes that I can think of based on these descriptions are either FMA:B or Youjo Senki... And those don't fit these descriptions for a long shot....
Jn liew Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate
Girls und Panzer
0:09 You mean about Bionicles, right?
He means Bionicle...
whats with bionicles I haven't seem them since my childhood but now they're everywhere
I actually have no clue. Although the reboot happened a few years ago already (given the age we live in), it has been popping up everywhere. It's only happening in Burg's channel because we memed it
"Some are good, some are bad, some are Fate."
And one is F.A.T.A.L.
I think one of the main reason why D&D, or fantasy in general holds strong is because the setting captures all the major archetypes people look for in roleplaying games, and it takes place in a world where the defining moments happen between people who are on foot within shouting distance of each other. It has all the major axis of defining characters. Power vs. Finesse, Spirituality vs. Intellectualism, Culture vs. Nature. No matter what speaks to you in terms of defining a heroic character you can find a way to play a character that represents that in a fantasy game, and all interactions between those characters happen on a single, comprehensible scale.
Barricade your doors and windows Burger
They are coming for you...
Burger, take out that nuke with this knife.
You will not slay my orc barbarian
Do "I hate Mars Bars"
Chicken BouillonCube imagine a crossover what a beautiful video that would be
but I don't
Mars bars are good though
Cyberpunk 2020 is a good "live life" tabletop rpg. Most campaigns i have run have literally 2 fights across months of sessions.
Also the political side of d&d comes in in classic planescape content.
D&D was invented in my state Wisconsin so I need to cling to it as something to make us relevant besides cheese and the Packers
the cheese mines in Wisconsin NPR did a documentary about awhile ago are vital to the dairy industry
I'd love to play D&D but now that I live in the middle of nowhere I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
Do it online innit. Get on roll20, it works pretty well and you can find amazing people there.
he is doing a video about d&d because if he does a video about something else he might go to jail
Like talking about Tommy Robinson?
You know, you actually captured all the issues I have with D&D. I like a lot of the archetypes though, and I lifted things like kobolds and drow (though I made them into French catpeople) into my own fantasy setting. I like the worldbuilding aspects of fantasy, because I like studying history and culture, so I have more fun reading old D&D books for the settings and tidbits of story. Tomb of Horrors, White Plume Mountain, there's interesting things to be gleaned from them. My issue is that, at least in my group, I'm the storyteller and roleplayer, the rest fall between the loony and the real man (I think that's the archetype name). I try to do interesting things with my characters, which then get ignored because "IN DUNGEON, KILL EVERYTHING". At that point, it's a math exercise, and I hate math so all the fun is gone. I once ran a gnoll who had killed his possessed mate and was outcast from his matriarchal society into one he struggled to understand. The others all said they were albino and that was that. At least I got Blackrazor. This has bled through when I DM, because I mostly just update old modules to 3.5. When I ran Slave Lords, I gave one hobgoblin a backstory and drama about his heart not being in it, but not wanting to abandon his squad and his father-figure sergeant. He stared out a window and surrendered, never appearing again. That game was very fun, with a tentacle-raping plant demigoddess, a drow warlock who raised armies of the dead and seduced his way into a barony while being insane, a knight who could ride a horse underground, and a woman armed with a slingshot and a vorpal watermelon slice defeating the slavers not out of a sense of right but out of sheer boredom and revenge, but rewriting the adventure was fun in its own way since it let me devise character motivations and inter-NPC conflicts that would otherwise never come up. I think that's why I lean more towards Fiasco now, since while the plot of Fiasco games is usually the same, it's character driven and one minute I could be in the middle of a shoot out between rival Irish and Vientnamese gangs over a dispute in a club and the next I'm the stoner chick in a slasher film who's actually the slasher, but has fewer kills than the outcast who found a shotgun. I don't really know what I've been getting at with all of this, but I've written enough of a wall that I'm just posting this. Good video.
Whats goin on out there Dungeon World Squad!?!
The game that has clunky mechanics but pretends it's rules light?
I just hate it because it requires committing yourself to socializing with a group of people for hours on end and you can’t leave whenever you want. I hate groups of people I’m obligated to spend hours upon hours with.
The worst thing is that DnD is somewhere between simplistic and complex.
It gives you a number of rules that take it away from being just a simple roleplaying experience but not enough to really delve into different aspects of the game.
This limits you to the point that the game is telling you not just how to play, but also what to play.
Sure, you can do some fancy explanation and do some story driven stuff, but in the end you are just choosing the colors in a coloring book. The lines will always already be there.
Love how I totally missed playing The Dark Eye by getting introduced to rpgs by playing Warhammer Fantasy (2nd edition before they neutered it down afterwards).
We played a game where the whole story was our characters under trial by a dystopic totalitarian government, 1984 and/or Brazil style. We started out shackled in a cell without knowing at all what we were accused of. Evidence was produced through improv. flashbacks at the trial. We ended up discovering that one of us was an agitator, the other a homosexual and the last one a murderer. As the process was drawing to a close, we were all brought to a room where a shady character offered us a deal; we would have to plead guilty as charged, and he would see us out of the country in stealth. All of the sudden we felt like being martyrs, rather than getting tricked in some way and then shot in a back alley. As we were paraded through jubilant crowds it was announced that we were declared innocent by the magnanimous, just and infallible Courts of the People. We were totally surprised and confused as players, our characters robbed of their martyrdoms, and everybody at the table (including the GM) ultimately in the dark if it was all just a propaganda move or a smoke screen for something else. We used Cypher System, but it could have been any system, even D&D. Group > System.
I've never been a big fan of D&D. I've always prefered the Firefly RPG. I found it more entertaining.
If there were a Sims game that needed animations for practicing the Oratory skill, and I were in charge of the motion capturing session, and you were a personal acquaintance of mine, I'd definitely invite you.
I totally agree with you, D&D is too "Happymealish" for my personal taste. I'm going to introduce some people to RPGs (for the records, they are four 27sh Y.O. who are/were all actors in a local theatre company) and I was going to use ASOIAF as background world and d10 as system but I'll give Open Legend a Shot. Thanks!
I personally think D&D is fun to play however i think its way too complex and a bit bogged down by fantasy tropes.
It’s really not that complex it’s one of the simpler RPG systems
It's a fantasy game set in a fantasy world with a lot of lore....there is settings in space and third party releases for sci-fi themes. I've played a different systems they all have there flaws you just need to find what works for you and your group.
If you’ve ever only played 5e, you’ve never actually played D&D. Also, if you think 5e is bogged down by rules, go play video games. Quit calling for the dumbing down of society to appease your pea 🧠.
@@jiujitsuguy74 I 100% agree with you. Don't play DND, it's not fun or enjoyable.
Just play video games with mods, you'll have a much better experience.
5e is far more free than any edition.
But the original few editions were kinda rule heavy against certain classes like the rogue(thief). They really sucked. Or imagining yourself as a wizard that could use a sword. The rules made things like that really limited. Sure you could dual class (if human) or multiclass (if demihuman). But that would cause u to take a lot of irl time to finally get the character u want. And by then, years passed and ur prob rolling up a new character
I've played using dozens of table top systems, but D&D has been the most consistent over the years, if only because there's ALWAYS a game somewhere in need of another player. Try finding a game using the HERO system...
We've been playing HERO System 5th Edition (Fantasy, Post-Apocalyptic, Sci-Fi)
since 1998. All our D&D players switched systems and love it.
Hey Burger! Great vid. I can really understand your position because even though I love D&D it can get tedious. Example: my group is running the Tomb of Annihilation campaign and for four sessions we were slogging through the mud endlessly killing without much headway. Then, last session, we got back to town and spent 5 irl hours dicking around racing dinosaurs and partying hard. It was a great distraction from the relentless questing. Anyways, keep up the great work and I hope you feel better soon. Later, man.
I'm a small time rpg creator (I've made "Intergalactic Lucha Libre League - Who uses the OGL license - Using D&D's d20 structure.)
Several friends of mine just love fantasy. And they are not in the know enough to understand that exists more to the genre than D&D.
To the point that they would rather keep playing D&D than trying something that might be more to their tastes; To them, "D&D is the cream of the crop".
They even asked me, a game creator who has a huge ass rpg collection from all genres to DM for them D&D until they reach level 20 so they can "experience all it has to offer".
Honestly? The only thing keeping me sane is the adventures published by WotC. The base mechanics are a bit boring to me. Just 10 levels to go now. Soon I will be able to have a golden excuse to force them to play something, anything else.
People try to sell it as the best because “oh I didn’t like that so I just changed it, so dnd is a perfect game.” I changed the rules so much that it was a different game. But people still called it dnd. In other words dnd is popular because it takes credit for ideas.
@@juniorqindes8335 I think nobody can have fun with 5e with more than 1 campaign without HR. I am playing an extremely good campaign on 5e with my group, but the only core mechanic that's a 5e thing is advantage/disavantage and still sounds stupid when multiple conditions feels totally redundant like when you are blinded and then poisoned. Our dm had reworked action economy, changed feats with "tokens"(powers that grow with players choices durung the adventure), eveybody get both tokens and ASI. Changed deathdoor, changed long/short rest timing, rewrote some skills and tools, wrote a new mechanic based on a condition called "Terror" and on exploration of occult items and stories. Wrote the settings to feel a Lovercraftian victorian age while mantaining some fantasy aspects... I don't think i can say I'm actually playing 5e. But my group is still calling It that way.
I’m playing a F.A.T.E. Game right now. Had me dying with that line
The only thing I know what to do at a D&D meeting is stacking the cards to build a house.
This comment made my skin crawl
For the last half year or so I've been in a Fallout Tabletop campaign run using a heavily stripped down version of GURPS Lite, and the Pheonix Command Combat system, and 90% of the time spent has been arguing in character, talking with NPCs and navigating politics to complete tasks, shopping, managing supplies, and traveling, and the few combat encounters we've had usually only involve us and a handful of yahoo's shooting at each other for a few moments in game. Pheonix Command is basically pen and paper milsim, it's awesome, and fucking terrifying, so we actually have a fear of death few other systems convey, because a random raider with a single shot shotgun can shoot you dead real easy, even if you have high end armor and a high level character.
It's a very different game compared to what most people experience, but my God is it desperate and fun.
10:55: I have the exact same gripes. My solution, although you don't seem to like it much, is hacking and slashing every game system I encounter into each other whenever I want it. Like in D&D I'll cut the combat out and replace it with the combat from Dark Heresy. With some jerry rigging you can make any skill, combat, sex etc. mechanics system fit with any other.
Check out Genesys, its pretty freeform and genre flexible
ahh GURPS ftw!
I'm going to look into this open source RPG you've recommend / requested I look into. An open source RPG sounds like a brilliant idea. BTW, I like Basic Fantasy RPG which is also an open source game at this point.
It just takes too long to complete a campaign i realized when I played last. I'm just too busy these days to keep up with it.
Well, you should really try GURPS. It's, in my opinion, the best system out there. In reality, you only need very few rules for a basic game. The problem is people often get excited about the options the system offers and then try to use all the rules to make combat/session detailed, and then they get overwhelmed.
All of those rules present in the Campaigns book are optional, GURPS is a system that does not abandon you. If you really need a rule for something, it has it, but you don't need it if you don't care. For example, the detailed weight rules about climbing ladders. You don't need it if you don't care or this level of detail is unnecessary for your campaign. Just call for a ST check if they are carrying what you consider much weight over the ladder, done.
I've been trying to adapt the Open Legend magic system to GURPS because the original one is quiet shitty. I could not longer be bothered with trying to make Open Legend more like GURPS. A combination of the two would be my optimal game.
The standard Magic System for GURPS is the skill-based Spells and the Spell tree requisites. It works well as it it, but it is not suitable for every setting. Fortunately GURPS has several other magic systems if you don't like the original one, like Syntatic Magic (Verb + Name - Ars Magica), Realm Magic (Mage the Ascension), Ritual Magic, Rune Magic, Wildcard Magic, etc.. They are all present in the GURPS Thaumatology book. It even gives you rules to create your own.
Maybe you should take a look, see if it fits what you have in mind.
What about the world of darkness? My D&D alignment is Malkavian.
Playing retired/alcoholic/high lvl characters that act as militia/bouncer for a big city when high level adventurers get out of control would be interesting...
*is in 3 campaigns*
*burgerkrieg doesn't like D&D*
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If you're having fun with it that is great and I am unironically happy for you.
TheBurgerkrieg thx bb can't stay mad at u
I prefer the setting of Warhammer over the one of DnD. I'm starting a game with my own group in the new 4th edition really soon.
So are we! 5 years after your comment!
I all most broke my clay sculpture gigglin from listening to this when said he was gonna roll up a gnome, i died XD
If I want to hack a custom class system into a game system, would it work for open legend?
This Guy was 5 years ahead of us all
This is why I like table top games with no levels. The new Cyberpunk Red is something I hope gets popular as it a good system.
D&D aint got shit on Dark heresy. AKA the RPG where you need 8 characters per player because even the GM can't keep people alive.
Sounds to me like GURPS would make you a very happy man!
you dont have to folow the rules ... you can home brew , its aslong as you have fun, most nerds just want to see the gang backtogetther
Homebrewing a really good game is a LOT of fun. I have to keep telling myself that after 25 years...
“You don’t have to follow the rules. You can play a different game you made yourself and we will give credit to dnd” yea, this is another reason dnd is garbage. It’s basically just a system of fans claiming the work of other people for dnd.
@@veng3r663 why call it dnd? You did the work, you made the game, you came up with the characters. Why give dnd credit?
@@juniorqindes8335 No MY game isn't called D&D, BUT since it was the newest thing to hit the store shelves back in 1978 it did have a major impact on not just mine but millions of other young imaginative minds for decades to follow.
However at some point like Captain Kirk once told Apollo I've finally outgrown such and old & defective gaming system...
@@juniorqindes8335 Why give DND credit, b/c we love the Dnd format, a good analogy is DarkSouls and "Soulslike", HomeBrew is just "DndLikes" [ProperName Pending]
Its not Claiming other peoples work , i argue Fans take from the DND Format, and you cant Claim a Formal and call it your own. There is a difference between Format and Work.
Format cant have ownership and can be used by all, and if you try to claim ownership over format, people will hate you for being a Monopolist, and will still rip-your-format-off with lesser version of your format called Pepsi-and-dragons[ProperNamePending].
I still love you
I like D&D a lot more than I dislike it, but I dislike all the same things about it.
All squares are a rhombus but not all rhombus are squares
10:37 This is why most people are still playing D&D, myself included. Why would you want to learn a whole new ruleset just to change settings, when the one you have is perfectly functional and adaptable to anything you might want to come up with, in less time to adapt said system than to learn a whole new one? (And also, you know, buy more books.) I only use D&D for a rules system, I've usually been the DM, and my philosophy has always been to use the lore books and monster manuals just to help me come up with some ideas. If you're taking settings right from the books and monsters right from the manual, I feel you're missing the point of D&D entirely.
That said, I'm sure there's other good rules systems, but I've mastered this one and I'm perfectly comfortable with it. My players seem to enjoy what I do with it, so meh, who cares.
To answer your question - "Why would you want to learn a whole new ruleset to change settings(...)"
1) Because a new ruleset is a completely different way of experience said settings than the D&D perspective, that needs to be hacked to do anything else other than "heroic (but not too heroic) fantasy".
2) Because you can find a different type of fun in different things.
3) Because adapting in any competent manner D&D to different settings take time and creation of new mechanics - Take a glance over my own book (Intergalactic Lucha Libre League) and the amount of stuff I had to remove and tweak to make D&D work as a wrestling simulator game, now compare with the books being published by Dias Ex Machina Games who DO exactly adaptations of D&D (4e when that was current, 5e currently) to different genres and how thick said rules can get.
The experience of a Cortex Game, a game using the Gumshoe engine, and many other systems that try and reach for a different approach of D&D are something else entirely. A different type of nourishment of your RPG needs.
I will go even deeper and make a palpable comparison to you.
Legend of Five Rings for D&D 3.0 (published over "Oriental Adventures" for D&D 3.0) vs. Legend of Five Rings 3e (released at the same time as the splatbook was avaiable for D&D.)
On one side you had D&D trying to be a fantasy Samurai setting - And being your typical heroic fantasy thing, with crappy social mechanics, vancian spell system (caster supremacy as well, since this WAS D&D 3.0).
On the other side, Legend Of Five Rings 3.0 had Akira Kurosawa like sword duels who ended in a single blow, a interesting and unique magical system that was BUILT to emulate how spirits behave in the setting as well a political game so sweet and interesting, every odd year there is a worldwide mega game dedicated entirely to it that draws hundreds of players around the world.
When you use a game as rigid and focused as D&D, you will either get "D&D but in this setting" when you "adapt said system" or you will hack things so deeply they become different games entirely anyway. Plenty of people did the latter with great results (Mutants & Masterminds is the obvious example). So don't take me this as crapping all over your opinion, just an enthusiast of RPGs trying to paint the hobby as more than just one system and all the good that comes from it.
The whole purpose of tabletop RPGs is to "hack" them. I've never used a pre-designed campaign setting. Also, like I said, it's kind of absurd to buy a whole new set of books and ask my players to learn a whole new set of rules.
Again, I'm sure there's other good games, but I and my players are in pretty deep with D&D and it serves our purposes, since we're still having fun with it years later.
By the way, we still play 3.5, because I and my friends have lots of books for it. We don't even feel the need to buy new D&D books let alone ones for a system we would be completely unfamiliar with and have to learn from square one. I did start with AD&D 2nd ed. and upgraded to 3.5 later though.
Interesting take. You should look up the book of vile darkness supplements from back in the day. That was some heavy kind of content . Great video
(btw, chad World of Darkness v. Virgin DnD)
I just bought the different story books and would read them and didn't play the game very much.
I really get this. I personally find I only enjoy dnd stuff of the OSR variant, because it's basically a loose group of game design nerds who picked apart dnd, figured out the core appeal and stripped most other stuff off. I really like both the more gamist approach of old school dnd and the narrative/character driven approach of other role play games, but the michmech of the two in modern dnd is really messy and I can't fucking do it. Especially dm'ing, fuck med it's impossible to both run a full game game and full narrative game.
Have you tried White Wolf games like Vampire: The Masquerade, Mage: The Ascension or Werewolf: The Apocalypse? There are several others but those are the most popular.
Mage has the best magic system yet.
Yeah, but then might actually have to read WtA's lore and setting, and holy shit it's aweful. VtM, WtO, HtR, and DtF are probably the best written ones.
couldn't agree more - I loved the "das schwarze auge" negative attributes like curiousity and jealousy. But the best are those custom-made by the game master :)
Monogamy isn't for TTRPG's
My favorite games and systems: 1-Cypher(generic), 2-Teenagers From Outer Space(anime), 3-Gamma World 4E(not based on D&D 4E)(post apocalyptic), 4-All Flesh Must be Eaten(zombie), 5-Battlelords of the 23rd Century(sci-fi), 6-Pathfinder 1E(fantasy), 7-5E(fantasy), 8-Palladium system(generic), 9-AD&D(fantasy), 10-Shadow of the Demon Lord(sci-fantasy/horror) and 11-Star Frontiers(sci-fi)
EYYYYYY fuck yeah for Matt Colville
How do you feel about the call of Cthulhu table top system? I've wanted to try it out for a while. I dug the few Warhammer 40k games I had time with. Also shadowrun is fucking amazing. The snes and genesis games, the ipad/pc/Mac shadowrun returns games, the Xbox 360/PC game was total bullshit and of course the source table top system was fantastic.
Shadowrun is an amazing setting, just a terrible TTRPG system to go with it.
I like the art, hate playing the game. Fuck dice rolls and fuck RNG in general.
Look into the game system Risus, super simple, super versatile, super intuitive, just all around a super system.
It basically uses words/titles as classes, skills, stats, and weapons even, which basically lets you play in any style, in any setting, just anything.
Just wondering how you feel about Index Card RPG.
I wholeheartedly agree with what you’re saying. I have found myself kind of trapped between two things DND and not DND and that is mainly because the groups of people I play with our only either interested in DND and see all other systems as “getting a break from DND” I think most people think that DND is the standard and that anything else is just a variation of DND which is very sad I have started DMIng A game of Savage worlds which in my opinion is one of the better systems that is like a general RPG just because I can put anything I want in this world I would appreciate you making a video on Savage worlds and why you seem to like and don’t like it
Industry. D&d 5e imho is just bad designed, too many general purposes, old and conflictual traditions(6 stats, AC...), unnecessary mechanics that don't favorite narratvism, nor simulationism, nor gamism, like the deathdoor and the yo- yo healing. Static and superficial action system claimed as fluid and dynamic, Major mechanics, like vantage/disavantage feel odd when different conditions are redundant, like blinded + poisoned. D&d 5e still is a dungeon crawling game, but with lesser interesting mechanics than others rpgs. People say more narrativism was the 5e purpose, actually a lot of things are DM calls, and that's the only way where 5e is more narrative than others d&d editions and will never be narrative as much as e.g. Fate. 5e is so mainstream 'cause Hasbro and Wotc are the biggest shark in the pond. There are better games on the market for each purpose, wichever it is. People are way too ineducated about tabletop games and they don 't know what they want. They play a game that was initialy designed to roleplay adventures inspired by Tolkien books, and they modify the rules, write homebrew to play in a way the game is not designed to. I saw group of people playing d&d as vampires in victorian age instead of playing "Vampire " whatever edition. Saw people play a grim fantasy setting, games of Thrones inspired, on 5e, banning Half of the manuals and still halving difficulties to deal with high level spells that totally break immersion of a low-fantasy setting... d&d is not "THE" tabletop RPG, this way of thinking should stop.
@@federicoi6524 DND is an overrated TTRPG. The game is garbage, unfun, and limiting
Despite being a superhero system, prowlers and paragons supports any game, any genre, and any setting out of the box with no extra effort.
You might like the role playing game paranoia.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game)
It's basically a dystopian sentient computer ran civilization.
You get random traits, like proficiency in bureaucracy, which is surprisingly useful.
You definitely power down in this game since the end goal of the game is to sell your friends out.
Have you tried White Wizard Workshop's Dungeons: The Dragoning 40,000 7th Edition?
Do you still play EVE? Great video btw, as always.
I prefer complex and realistic combat, so I like to use a homebrew version of cyberpunk 2020 for just about everything. I'd recommend anyone who likes semi realistic, lethal combat to give it a try. Its pretty easy to separate the system from the cyberpunk setting.
What you want is a Gaia online roleplay group. Not tabletop roleplay, forum roleplay
this comment made me chuckle lol i was a hardcore rper on gaia back in the day
Listen up, folks: miss thing has something to say
I have heard before that D&D is often the go-to tabletop RPG because of its ubiquity.
Generally, people want to have at least the core rule book for a game. That and/or at least some familiarity with the system. That can make it more difficult to get other games going.
So after the GM finds out that the players don't have books for Shadowrun, Rifts, Aces and Eights, or Traveller, then they might well just settle on D&D because it's not unlikely that most or all of the players have the book for it.
I'm not big into table role playing but I always had fun with DND
What do you mean by the D&Dverse? There are a lot of different settings: Eberron, Forgotten Realms, Dark Sun, Greyhawk, Planescape, Dragonlance and so on. They're all quite different. So which setting are you actually referring to?
Those are more like “realms bought by dnd” there is no “dnd” verse because those things existed far before it. Dnd is literally just a credit stealing game.
Type d in "D&D ...We all died in 9/11 and found this
Hey Burger. Hurry up and do the next Shadowrun episode
Designing my own tabletop game, I have had the same issue with dnd. The thing about dnd is that it is one of the easiest and popular game on the market and its levelling system adds value to the player in a form of progression (much like computer rpg's.)
I do think you make a good point and will try to find a way around this problem for my own tabletop game, which started out with somewhat the same principle in mind ^^
As a Dnd Dm , the players that had come to my table are straight eh worst. All of them wanna turn it into a comedy even when I explicitly say , “We’re gonna focus on more serious stuff” I hate fucking gremlin characters.
#maness trend it! The Triggering CDXXIII. Also, forget about that no name system you're talking about. Genesys is where it's at.
dnd about economic speculation......got roll for higher gold pricesss!!!!!!
THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS.
Raven loft is a good dark DND setting.
Note: "Das schwarze Auge" is translated to english as "The Dark Eye" :)
However, two things: I love D&D, and I don't need any other systems for my purpose. I love my epic fantasy stories and always will do.
At the same time: I agree with everything you just said. D&D is especially designed for a certain type of game, and to be easy to pick up for new players who like that type of game. Building a social space opera drama of some sort...you'd be way better off using a different system (like, for example, Savage Worlds, which i kinda adore for its ideas).
Long story short: I enjoyed listing to your opinion, you got a new subscriber for now^^
why is Dr. Wily’s castle in the background?
it looks cool
I love tabletop RPGs, but I've never liked D&D.
Also, do a video about your hatred of crushed velvet (even if you like it).
Gotta love peeing on Etins while fighting Ellithids. Fantastic hangover cure.
As for the rest, it just sounds like you’ve had crappy DM’s or annoying players. Ei I normally don’t have players who see their rolls unless it’s a pivotal moment or something that was completely unexpected from them.
Regarding the drunk thing, it’s pretty easy to make up an alcoholic rule, or just use the ADnD 1E rules where a severe drunk has to roll once per hour to see if they make a save (wis or con) to see if they can resist flying off the handle and getting a drink regardless of what the party says. The con save I usually roll to see if the person has a seizure. If they pass alcohol they have to roll a will save, which is at -1 the first two days after drinking, then drops to normal the next two, then +1 each day afterwards cumulatively until they are all set. After 6 days no more seizure risk etc.. . Of course the player can decide to fall off the wagon on his/her own regardless of die rolls.
Like I said, more creative DM’s or players. Seriously, how is someone supposed to stay IC if they are throwing dice every two minutes?
Oh, and Chainmail was the first mainstream distributed tabletop rpg which is what the original soft cover Basic DnD books were based on. Woo hoo, 4 classes. Fighter, Magic User, Elf, Dwarf.
so the response to "I don't want to have to change the game system in order to have meaningful flaws" is "you can just change the game system in order to have meaningful flaws."
TheBurgerkrieg Well, yeah, that’s what I would do. There are actually rules for being a drunk in DnD, with the precedent being lates out pretty thoroughly for Caramon Majere. I not incredibly fond of it as it was something akin too:
Day 1: Needs a 15 to not flip out, a 19 if you pass a pub/inn or are around ppl drinking.
Day 2: 15/18
Day 3 14/17 etc...
So anyway, the rules are there.
As for space it would be relatively easy to use the Star Frontier rules (It was TSR’s DnD meets Battlestar Galactica).
Regardless, pretty sure you know this, but it boils down to the players and the DM. I’ve been pretty lucky in the sense that I’ve had some great DM’s and silly creative players.
I played a short 3 day campaign with Ed Greenwood which was pretty interesting, but unfortunately I was rule thumping like an idiot. I was asking him some questions after the first day (it was at Gencon 2000 in MKE US, he was obviously there promoting the new 3E rules and I was there for Bioware as NwN was coming out 3 months later) about how he accommodates so many people, most of whom he didn’t know, and he just said “As the DM I just make things up as I go”. It really simplifies things.
As a player I just ask my DM “I know there are no Kender Clerics, but I really want to dual class into one.” I’d already set it up in the previous 3 sessions by bugging our Druid and wannabe Knight of the Rose. DM said he’d try to give me the opportunity, 10 game hours later I was a 4rth lvl rogue/1rst lvl cleric of Reorx with a pet goose who was essentially an animal follower.
Now I’m relatively sure Don (the DM) didn’t have any rules for a Kender Clerics with a pet goose names Honk, but it worked for the campaign exceptionally well.
So again, yep, it is 100% cool to change the rules if you don’t like the ones the way they are written (If you’re the DM or they are fine with it). No idea why that bugs you.
Also, you might find playing with people online who use something akin to webrpg or openrpg as a lot of people who might be a little uncomfortable getting in character fall into it pretty easily when it’s basically just an xml chatroom with built in dice, and map/miniature options.
TheBurgerkrieg
Beg, I messed up the alcoholic rules. It’s just a save with a d10. The save starts at 1 and goes up 1 per day, if the d10 roll (or if you are playing straight d20 DnD then 2, 4, 6...) is over the current Alkie # then you throw a fit and try to get drunk.
It’s explained on page 112 of the DL Adventures book by, fittingly enough, Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weiss.
Heh, the first time I met them I walked up to someone at the booth they were supposed to be at and asked if someone could get them to sign a few books I was giving away in a contest. When Tracy walked up and took one of the books to sign it I snatched it out of his hand as I had no idea Tracy was a dude. It was funny as hell.
Anyway, Tc.
you tried Das Schwarze Auge? It may be my own nostalgia bias speaking but i remember that beeing pretty nice and a tad more easily fluid than DnD
aaaaand i shouldnt have commented before finishing the video, you did play it xD
3:00: I couldn't tell how old you were until you said this. No. That's not how it happened. We were vilified until less than 10 years ago.
If you are looking for a good system that doesn't pull it's punches, check out rollmaster, runequest, or warhammer 40k tabletop RPG games. They are all D100 system games and are all super easy to die in, while also making your characters feel like total bad assess. We play in middle earth most of the time and have a blast. Shadow world is really good for the vast endless worlds and accounts for any setting to be implemented. I have been running a 40k game for like 6 years and each campaign builds off the last, each one making major changes in the galaxy, to the point that I almost need to build a wiki just for our alternate timeline of 40k, lol.
White wolf is also a really good set of systems if you want a lot more character driven stuff. My favorite is vampire dark ages.
I also do heavily customized D&d games when I run them(and almost always play pathfinder rather than actual D&D).
Ya'll need to play Paranoia.
Your right and also a madman.
The worst thing about D&D 5e for me is it's horrible GM tooling. I don't want running a campaign to be a part time job, not after I played Blades in the Dark, and learned I could spend 10 minutes per session doing the boring, but necessary prep, and spend whatever time I still want to beyond that creating cool handouts and whatnot.
I just dislike DnD because of the total randomness of D20 system. I can be the most skilled rogue in the world and go to pick the most basic lock on a peasants house that only requires 5 skill check and i have +15 to add to my skill, should be a piece of cake *rolls a 1
DM "you critically fail and fall over hitting your head on the door knob and suffer permanent brain dmg, subtract 2 intelligence.
Now I want to see you do an entire video about Savage Worlds, to flesh out what you mean by liking it but also disliking it…
plastering is a good verb. although not specifically in reference to skin.
This channel is godlike.
I don't care what system I am playing, as long as we are having fun
I love D&D. I only started playing it a couple years ago and it was my first tabletop RPG. I'm DMing now and I'm editing everything in the world heavily. DND is a good framework and it's a common language for people to get started in, but I agree that it's biased for combat and breaks down at higher levels.
Too many massive gameplay flaws. You have a 1/20 chance to mess up so bad you screw yourself and your team over right? .-. How many times you roll in an encounter?
If you’ve only ever played 5e, you’ve never actually played D&D
You want to play Mutants and Masterminds. It is possibly the #3 game system (after DnD and Pathfinder). You want system which supports any setting from ancient Greece, to WWII, to Mass Effect with furry raccoons? A game system that doesn't necessarily focus so much on gradually growing power? Save the timestream in one adventure and find a cure for your sick auntie the next?
Dungeons and Dragons, the high fantasy system
I'm starting a petition to officially change "female" to "maness"
our groups have been playing savage worlds for two years now. we still call it dnd
What is black eye?
He means "The Dark Eye" because at some point the publisher found out that literally translating it wasn't that great of an idea.
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.... Don't like open Legend.
It claimed to be classless, but really, there were a bunch of very specific and easily identifyable feat trees, and investing in magic at all damn-near dominated your character's design and fluff.
My group only enjoys playing D&D these days because of it being the hottest of hot, exploitable messes that we all know how to bend over our knees with ease. The hotness and ease is multipled by our insistence that the only edition we play is the old 3.5 edition. And edition of D&D is hot garbage, but 3.5 provides the widest array of methods for acheiving your godly powers before epic level.