There are some positive that came out of the trade. We still lost because JT is a really good player. But we badly need some revamp on the D. I am excited for next season D core. We have a bit of mix of old and young dmans with great potential. I won’t expect too much on canucks to get into the playoffs, they did lose Miller. It is hard to fill in that guy. but I won’t blame Petey either. They need a cohesive environment and team. They won’t win a cup when everyone is not playing for the same purpose. It is not all gloom and doom.
it's just beginning. The other players on the Canucks are going to see how EP40 makes 2x the next forward yet plays like a 3rd liner. There is going to be a lot of resentment in that room. EP40 will be moved before his NTC kicks in. Management just wants him to play better so his value goes up enough to get a decent return. This is why I hope the next CBA caps contract length to 5 years. Us fans are being robbed with these overpriced lazy players on 8-year contracts.
agreed, Juulsen is a pylon out there. at least he stopped taking moronic penalties and stupid pinches leading to costly turnovers as of late. But that bright, shiny orange color still shows through his canucks jersey at times.
I have a feeling that Chytil will do really well for the Canucks. Marcus Pettersson is an underrated defensemen. Drew O'Connor is a good bottom 6 forward with speed and size.
Yoh must be young. This last edition of Canuck drama reminded me of the Bure divorce. It was a huge cloud over the team for MONTHS and same result. The Canucks were perceived to have lost the deal . Jovo was still considered a kid who hadn’t lived up to expectations after his great rookie season.. in the end it set the Canucks on track. This will work out the same. The black cloud of JT is gone.. there’s cap space, we filled some holes.. I think the future is bright again. The one thing about Canucks grabbing Petterson from Pittsburgh is they already know of his character.. winning is all about culture.
Yeah people thinking this is the end are being too pessimistic. It’s not necessarily gonna make the team a cup contender but the amount of people acting like this is a huge loss genuinely shocks me
We can look at it this way. Ultimately it’s Downgrading from Miller to Chytil, but upgrading from desharnais to Marcus Pettersson. Does it balance out? Even if it doesn’t balance out exactly, I don’t think it’s too far off. Because Chytil is a big down grade from Miller, but Pettersson is a massive upgrade from desharnais. Plus Chytil is better than Miller defensively. Problem now becomes scoring. They will have to win a lot of 1 goal games.
Looking ahead, now that we have Marcus Petterson, we should have a good top four dman with Hughes, Hronek, M. Petersson and D-. Petey when he becomes regular next year ( I do believe he will be a solid d man), next season. With a cap space next year, we can improve our top forwards and sign Lankinen.
Cheers bro, it is a lot to digest that's for sure. Could work well on a number of ways, new blood is always new blood. And what could go wrong eh? Im excited for change and change we need.
The last time I got upset about the Canucks trading a player was Pavel Bure and I knew it had to be done. I don’t get upset about this stuff. One guy doesn’t make a team. They were going nowhere with the roster as it was, they needed a top 4 D and they got one, as well as a big centre with untapped potential and another D prospect that profiles as a solid stay at home. I don’t care about individual players. I care about team construction.
He makes 8 million dollars a year and he can't suck it up and play with Petey? Give me a f**king break! You think normal people (who don't make 8 million a year) have to like everyone they work with? It's utterly ridiculous what a baby JT has been this year. Completely unprofessional. I'm glad he's gone tbh. Everyone who chanted his name at games might wanna rethink how much praise you shower "certain" players in this league with. talk about a parasocial relationship. Sayonara JT
It's interesting to see the Canucks flip that first rounder for a rental... the Canucks now have a pretty decent defense, but there are gaps up front now with Miller gone.
Miller, Heiden, desharnais, now I’m guessing! Deaner, you loved all those players didn’t you?… send some of that love towards Hughes as well…. I have a good feeling the nucks needed that first round pick, for the rebuild, that was a quick turnover . :)
We are a very sad fan base to blame it to one person if a team misses the playoffs. Don’t you ever think we will miss the playoffs no matter what even if Miller stayed here? Our defence the way it is constructed is no good.
Miller, Heinen, Desharnais, Brannstrom, prospect for Pettersson, Chytil, OConnor, prospect, cap space and eliminating a toxic dressing room. Not a great return for a player of his calibre but can be seen as a win.
Please trade our completely incompetent management next. Rutherford going to the media and basically announcing we are desperate to trade him will go down as one of the dumbest moves in franchise history.
It's cyclic for JT. After he is jettisoned by his team, he does some self-appraisal and smartens up. He comes to his new team with a new and improved attitude...Vancouver saw that...a highly skilled player with great character...but it's an act, basically. After a while, he slides into his true persona, critical of others , a blamer, and eventually becomes a true cancer in the room. He is jettisoned once again, this time back to a team that already punted him for distance once before.
@ yups, there’s past history of similar behaviour for sure, NYR and in Tampa. Such a double edged sword. Real good for the team when on, real bad when off.
Hey Deaner, no team will come out a winner when a player makes demands on management. Miller was basically one step from being a holdout. Canucks just had to salvage what they can from a real crappy situation.
If you meant sending Pettersson to the Devils, then yeah, that's brilliant. Our number 1 center would be either Chytil or Pius Suter. The Canucks would have the worst centers in the entire league. I hope you were just being sarcastic, and not suggesting something like that.
@@kesler171717 yeah I know Forbort and Soucy are LD’s… I’d still play them over Juulsen at RD 😂 even if not them then I’d even slot in Mancini at the bottom RD spot
I'm bummed about JT being traded. Saying goodbye to Heinen and Deharnais is easy because they both sucked. I thought Brännström was a great addition and he played well for the Canucks, so that's a bummer seeing him go as well. Overall, I just feel meh about all of it.
heinen was good on the pk and put up some points here and there he is basically the definition of a bottom 6 player but thank gosh we got rid of desharnais and got someone actually good, the second i saw the 1st round pick i new that it was going to be in a deal for petey 3 i just didnt know what else would be apart of it
Meh, it sucks, but it had to happen. Ultimately, that contract would have really soured, so good deal. I’ll remember fondly some of the chants, hits, great plays. Thanks JT Miller clap clap clap!
Shocked the NHL by losing both trades If we had gotten Schneider then that would've have been Awesome but we didnt Rutherford loves the guy though Could have signed Pettersson in the summer for no 1st round pick Chytil is one injury away for career over... Hope Pettersson doesnt pull a Lindholm...Now that would be brutal Is our Defense better than last year? Nahh Cole and Zadorov were solid
It's cyclic for JT. After he is jettisoned by his team, he does some self-appraisal and smartens up. He comes to his new team with a new and improved attitude...Vancouver saw that...a highly skilled player with great character...but it's an act, basically. After a while, he slides into his true persona, critical of others , a blamer, and eventually becomes a true cancer in the room. He is jettisoned once again, this time back to a team that already punted him for distance once before.
Pettersson has to go. Takes two to tango. If there was a rift, then there are camps in that dressing room. If the organization is going to shake things up, do it right. Send a message. No one is bigger than the team. Myers has to play bottom pairing. If this team wants to turn things around they need a legit second pairing D that can move the f'ing puck. All eggs are in Hughes basket. This is untenable. It's time to sell high on Demko while the league still thinks he's top 5 when "healthy. If Boeser is looking for 8m+, package him.
Rutherford's comments airing the supposed conflict were super unprofessional in my opinion. I don't expect much success for the rest of the season. Rutherford out.
wish they are able to move Pettersson, has never been worth the money. Go Rangers Go. Canucks deserve all their not grit swedes. They will not win a cup. They never learn. Grit & character wins cups.
All of a sudden the d-core looks pretty solid
There are some positive that came out of the trade. We still lost because JT is a really good player. But we badly need some revamp on the D. I am excited for next season D core. We have a bit of mix of old and young dmans with great potential. I won’t expect too much on canucks to get into the playoffs, they did lose Miller. It is hard to fill in that guy. but I won’t blame Petey either. They need a cohesive environment and team. They won’t win a cup when everyone is not playing for the same purpose. It is not all gloom and doom.
We gave up offence to improve our defence
The drama is finally done
I doubt it.
it's just beginning. The other players on the Canucks are going to see how EP40 makes 2x the next forward yet plays like a 3rd liner. There is going to be a lot of resentment in that room. EP40 will be moved before his NTC kicks in. Management just wants him to play better so his value goes up enough to get a decent return. This is why I hope the next CBA caps contract length to 5 years. Us fans are being robbed with these overpriced lazy players on 8-year contracts.
@@HomeSchool4You Wow it's like you're in the dressing room with them?!
Done?😂
You must be new to nucks fandom.
@ I don't need to be. It's basic human psychology, genius.
Allvin collecting all the Petterson’s in the league like they’re infinity stones
Alviin should be Canned
This team is so frkn soft
They will get run over in the Playoffs if they even make it...
liked the comment
Canucks acquiring pettersons like Pokemons
WHAT THERES THREE PETTERSONS
(yes I watched the video and yes that's a DragonBallZ renfrence for you guys) (yes I know it's 9000)
They still don't have me 😜
Sucks to lose Miller and I know this might be unpopular but think it'll be overall net positive and give them a fresh start
Why. Does. Tocchet. Keep. Playing. JUULSEN!?!?
agreed, Juulsen is a pylon out there. at least he stopped taking moronic penalties and stupid pinches leading to costly turnovers as of late. But that bright, shiny orange color still shows through his canucks jersey at times.
I have a feeling that Chytil will do really well for the Canucks. Marcus Pettersson is an underrated defensemen. Drew O'Connor is a good bottom 6 forward with speed and size.
I have the opposite feeling. Now let’s talk trading Hughes :)
Yoh must be young. This last edition of Canuck drama reminded me of the Bure divorce. It was a huge cloud over the team for MONTHS and same result. The Canucks were perceived to have lost the deal . Jovo was still considered a kid who hadn’t lived up to expectations after his great rookie season.. in the end it set the Canucks on track. This will work out the same. The black cloud of JT is gone.. there’s cap space, we filled some holes.. I think the future is bright again. The one thing about Canucks grabbing Petterson from Pittsburgh is they already know of his character.. winning is all about culture.
Yeah people thinking this is the end are being too pessimistic. It’s not necessarily gonna make the team a cup contender but the amount of people acting like this is a huge loss genuinely shocks me
We can look at it this way. Ultimately it’s Downgrading from Miller to Chytil, but upgrading from desharnais to Marcus Pettersson. Does it balance out? Even if it doesn’t balance out exactly, I don’t think it’s too far off. Because Chytil is a big down grade from Miller, but Pettersson is a massive upgrade from desharnais. Plus Chytil is better than Miller defensively. Problem now becomes scoring. They will have to win a lot of 1 goal games.
Looking ahead, now that we have Marcus Petterson, we should have a good top four dman with Hughes, Hronek, M. Petersson and D-. Petey when he becomes regular next year ( I do believe he will be a solid d man), next season. With a cap space next year, we can improve our top forwards and sign Lankinen.
It's kinda feels like the start of a new season with a new team 2025 ver 2.
There just enough games left for the team to gel if they make the playoffs.
Let’s just hope version 2.0 juuuuuust misses the playoffs ❤
the real chaos giraffe vinnie deharnais kick rocks
Man I don’t see enough people stoked about that part. After his performance against the Oilers I never want to see his face again
Cheers bro, it is a lot to digest that's for sure.
Could work well on a number of ways, new blood is always new blood.
And what could go wrong eh?
Im excited for change and change we need.
The last time I got upset about the Canucks trading a player was Pavel Bure and I knew it had to be done. I don’t get upset about this stuff. One guy doesn’t make a team. They were going nowhere with the roster as it was, they needed a top 4 D and they got one, as well as a big centre with untapped potential and another D prospect that profiles as a solid stay at home. I don’t care about individual players. I care about team construction.
Did u watch tonight 😂😂
He makes 8 million dollars a year and he can't suck it up and play with Petey? Give me a f**king break! You think normal people (who don't make 8 million a year) have to like everyone they work with? It's utterly ridiculous what a baby JT has been this year. Completely unprofessional. I'm glad he's gone tbh. Everyone who chanted his name at games might wanna rethink how much praise you shower "certain" players in this league with. talk about a parasocial relationship. Sayonara JT
It's interesting to see the Canucks flip that first rounder for a rental... the Canucks now have a pretty decent defense, but there are gaps up front now with Miller gone.
Hooraaah, finally a move ( moves) by management! Let’s see how the dust settles I’ll tell ya after the world 4’s are done. 🎉
The value of these trades depends on if they can re sign M. Petterson
Look at who had the best +/- in penguins last season…
Miller, Heiden, desharnais, now I’m guessing! Deaner, you loved all those players didn’t you?… send some of that love towards Hughes as well…. I have a good feeling the nucks needed that first round pick, for the rebuild, that was a quick turnover . :)
Allvin is playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
grow up... have you any idea that that the nepotism on the canucks is the problem.
Any moves that prevents Juulsen from suiting up again is a win...the team is already better without him in the lineup.
If this team misses playoffs this year, EP40 will public enemy number 1
I see EP40 being a wait and see guy. If he plays to potential, he stays. If he continues to sulk and mope, he will be on the Greyhound outta town.
We are a very sad fan base to blame it to one person if a team misses the playoffs. Don’t you ever think we will miss the playoffs no matter what even if Miller stayed here? Our defence the way it is constructed is no good.
He is anyway
EP40 has 30 games to prove he can dominate games as a #1 C otherwise, Rutherford and Allvin will trade his ass before July1. That much is very obvious
I bet it's going to come out that it wasn't even really petterson Miller had a problem with, it was actually tochett and management instead
Miller, Heinen, Desharnais, Brannstrom, prospect for Pettersson, Chytil, OConnor, prospect, cap space and eliminating a toxic dressing room.
Not a great return for a player of his calibre but can be seen as a win.
2 more Petterssons for Petey-Exodia and then it's an automatic Stanley Cup.
welcome to life! time stops for No One.
Some of the worst trades I've seen in recent Canucks history, Imagine EP gets hurt now and Chytil a 3c is our #1. Just awful.
They’ll find a 2C in the offseason
@@xunchart4d110 They'll find themselves with Quinn asking out soon too
Don't worry, Pettersson isn't a 1C either.
@@freder1c sad
its been more than a decade of poorly done rebuilding and they still stink lol
Please trade our completely incompetent management next. Rutherford going to the media and basically announcing we are desperate to trade him will go down as one of the dumbest moves in franchise history.
There is no minimal IQ requirement for hockey execs. Some are thinkers, others are stinkers.
Alian Venu is so Swedish bias.
I heard it here first! Why would the get another Petterson?! Poor Shorty 😄
Offloading Deharnais beautifully offsets however underwhelming this trade might be
He’ll be good for the NYR if he doesn’t destroy their dressing room.
It's cyclic for JT. After he is jettisoned by his team, he does some self-appraisal and smartens up. He comes to his new team with a new and improved attitude...Vancouver saw that...a highly skilled player with great character...but it's an act, basically. After a while, he slides into his true persona, critical of others , a blamer, and eventually becomes a true cancer in the room. He is jettisoned once again, this time back to a team that already punted him for distance once before.
@ yups, there’s past history of similar behaviour for sure, NYR and in Tampa. Such a double edged sword. Real good for the team when on, real bad when off.
JT will be missed
THANK GOD🎉 NO MORE JOULSON
The Canucks are gonna win the cup
The trade wasn't for Chytil, the trade was to dump Miller's contract.
Hey Deaner, no team will come out a winner when a player makes demands on management. Miller was basically one step from being a holdout. Canucks just had to salvage what they can from a real crappy situation.
it was over when he took 6 weeks off ! wth was that.
management should have canceled his contract for not fulfilling his end of the contract.
He didn’t demand anything
Worste trade in history for my 52 years of a fan .this team is done this year
Who's next?
if hughes is injured for next game then we might have 3 peteys at the same time
Now Pederson goes to the Devils for Luke Hughes and we're all happy .
If you meant sending Pettersson to the Devils, then yeah, that's brilliant. Our number 1 center would be either Chytil or Pius Suter. The Canucks would have the worst centers in the entire league. I hope you were just being sarcastic, and not suggesting something like that.
@carletonrutherford1799 Boeser and a first to Pittsburgh for Syd?
Julsoon, agh 34 games zero points -13. How sh!t is that.
3 Peteys now lmao
just bought my wife and her dad a miller jersey just for this to happen :(
Piss and shit on it!
Lol, it's not a shock, Everybody has been talking about it for a Couple of weeks now
Deaner you need to look at the hands of these guys. Juulsen is still either in or first RHD in. Mancini maybe though
@@kesler171717 yeah I know Forbort and Soucy are LD’s… I’d still play them over Juulsen at RD 😂 even if not them then I’d even slot in Mancini at the bottom RD spot
@DeanerHD i would too but these coaches are stubborn with what side the D play.
I'm hoping 22 year old rhd Mancini is in and turns out as the steal
I'm bummed about JT being traded. Saying goodbye to Heinen and Deharnais is easy because they both sucked. I thought Brännström was a great addition and he played well for the Canucks, so that's a bummer seeing him go as well. Overall, I just feel meh about all of it.
heinen was good on the pk and put up some points here and there he is basically the definition of a bottom 6 player but thank gosh we got rid of desharnais and got someone actually good, the second i saw the 1st round pick i new that it was going to be in a deal for petey 3 i just didnt know what else would be apart of it
Meh, it sucks, but it had to happen. Ultimately, that contract would have really soured, so good deal. I’ll remember fondly some of the chants, hits, great plays. Thanks JT Miller clap clap clap!
You can’t win playoffs with all Swedish !
The NHL is a business and people are going to get moved around in it. If the canucks can trade Trevor Linden they can trade anybody.
Linden was overrated
Don’t forget horvat!
Shocked the NHL by losing both trades
If we had gotten Schneider then that would've have been Awesome but we didnt
Rutherford loves the guy though
Could have signed Pettersson in the summer for no 1st round pick
Chytil is one injury away for career over...
Hope Pettersson doesnt pull a Lindholm...Now that would be brutal
Is our Defense better than last year? Nahh Cole and Zadorov were solid
Cole cost Canucks big time in the playoffs, he was an absolute liability
This means with the cap going up we either resign Marcus or we could look into signing someone like Marner or Rantanen
I’d prefer a solid D-Core than risking a bidding war in free agency. I’m hoping with the cap space we can get a solid 2C
no way we're gettin Rantanen bro, he just went to Carolina ffs. Don't you watch the news? it was like the biggest trade in hockey world this week.
Apparently Rantanen wanted in the $14 million range. Should they try to sign him for $14 million?
Unloaded a highly skilled non-team guy for some lesser team guys. Vancouver wins.
Lankinnen would have the game
Not happy with them trading Brannstrom. Also, dont love the trade as a whole and wished Petey got moved instead.. would have been a better return
Oilers broke the Canucks sadly
Whatta steal from pitts... Markus is crazy good d-man totally underrated.
Dunno how this trade will work out, seems like a risk for both teams. One thing has become abundantly clear: Canucks fans are clowns
It's cyclic for JT. After he is jettisoned by his team, he does some self-appraisal and smartens up. He comes to his new team with a new and improved attitude...Vancouver saw that...a highly skilled player with great character...but it's an act, basically. After a while, he slides into his true persona, critical of others , a blamer, and eventually becomes a true cancer in the room. He is jettisoned once again, this time back to a team that already punted him for distance once before.
Pettersson has to go. Takes two to tango. If there was a rift, then there are camps in that dressing room. If the organization is going to shake things up, do it right. Send a message. No one is bigger than the team.
Myers has to play bottom pairing. If this team wants to turn things around they need a legit second pairing D that can move the f'ing puck. All eggs are in Hughes basket. This is untenable.
It's time to sell high on Demko while the league still thinks he's top 5 when "healthy. If Boeser is looking for 8m+, package him.
PETEY^3
I hate it no one will ever wear number 9 better than him best of luck to him in NYR ❤❤❤❤
There have been very good no 9s in Vancouver.
@@christhornycroft3686the only player in the entire franchise that has more points per game is Pavel Bure
@ I still think miller is the best to wear number 9
@yes that’s common sense
Really doubling down on this being pettersons team huh? Lol. The Vancouver pettersons.
1st you make W vids keep going
Rutherford's comments airing the supposed conflict were super unprofessional in my opinion. I don't expect much success for the rest of the season. Rutherford out.
His comments made the trade happen though. The trade was nixed by the NYR, but after the article comes out, instant trade accepted.
@@glgl7676 No, the salary cap coming out is the only thing that changed this trade.
Yep. I think he has burned his bridge.
Demko looks rusty. still mistake bythe coach we lost.
been a decade of rebuilding and the team still needs a rebuild.. they're doing great work in vancouver!
wish they are able to move Pettersson, has never been worth the money. Go Rangers Go. Canucks deserve all their not grit swedes. They will not win a cup. They never learn. Grit & character wins cups.
Teams okay. Miller sucks.
Miller❤💔😭
Softezt team in tbe NHL bye bye Hughes
You're takes are total bullsheet bud. Go back to alberta maybe
Vancouver is dog water just like the Canucks