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As a healer, nothing makes me happier than people pulling their weight with healing and defensives once the keys start exceeding 16s. Season 2 is a nightmare for healers, and all help is appreciated. You're doing awesome dude, love to see it.
I've only started healing last week (Healing 20s already) and its so nice when people help out
as an arms warrior solo pugging high keys i do my best to use impending victory whenever needed only downside to the ability is the 25sec CD
Thank you Mike, means a lot! Loving the Paladin and feels great being able to help out
I'm thinking of taking a break until the next season. I got my mount and achievement on my main, but too many groups now on my alt that just expect me to do everything alone. Not just the healing, but the cc and dispell afixes too. And too many have the nerve to then blame me for not dispelling them, when it's on cooldown because the just made me dispell the affix alone.
I'm starting to think 'fuck them, roll your own healer or die of boredom in a queue'.
As a healer, i really enjoy pallys for this utility and healing help. Healing is really hard this season, mainly because dps don't care about mechanics so a little help is always glady accepted !
I'm only doing +9's at the moment but I find myself throwing heals around to help the healers as much as I can. Biggest person I tend to heal with things go sideways actually ends up being the healers because they aren't watching their own health bars.
@@Hertacles even in 20+, dps and tanks want to pull whole dungeon so in pug groups it's super nice to help
That's good to know, thank you for appreciating the Palading gang :)
vouch dis
I haven't played this season due to working too much, but I was always about 50/50 about it. When the DPS is able to pick up the slack from people off-healing, it's fine. If we're missing DPS checks because there is (unnecessary?) offhealing... That's another case. So basically, it depends on the situation, I guess? :)
Glad to see the hunter's pet was able to pull the extra trash mob in the middle :D
I always think of you when this happens now xD
Really cool to see you taking another player to new heights. We need more of that in the community
I do what I can, there are some really nice players out there. The Discord community is truly amazing, I would definitely recommend joining if you haven't already!
My favourite parts are the Dilli-derps, ngl, they make me chuckle
Thanks for brightening my day
Ha, Dilli-Derps. More people liked that more than I thought they would. Glad you enjoyed
Paladin utility like BoP/Freedom/Lay always welcome as a healer, but in the high keys the faster mobs die the less damage they can do. A good healer should know whether they've got someone covered or not, and in a sub 20s pug environment i'd just have faith in the healer to pull through and focus on your own throughput.
Firstly, love the name and profile picture lol, you make me feel old!
I've been pretty bad using BoP/LOH, I think everything else has been acceptable though.
I'm so proud that you're carrying the pink class torch so well, from now on my deaths will be referred to as Dilli-derps aswell!
Thank you, I couldn't have done it without my Ret friend >.>
I too lack the confidence to do keys higher than +16 like your paladin friend. M+ anxiety. Awesome second video! Thank you for making my Friday evening
Appreciate you Sebbel, you should come and join more community runs one night, perhaps during the Friday socials
just a minor thing about halls of infusion, you can quickly freedom yourself and another person to remove the dot debuff from the dragons in the second half of the dungeon, helps out the healer a ton
I learned this after, thanks for letting me know :D
As a healer main i dont mind off healing if it calls for it. Just random spot heals tho just waste your own dps. As a healer main i know if I need to top someone asap or if I can wait a few seconds. Push your own dps my man!
Love the weekly vids ❤
Glad you're enjoying the videos :)
I finally got to try the UI you're using. Absolutely amazing. Fixed every issue ive ever had with ELVUI.
Also, because of you I finally gave Ret Paladin a shot and it is the MOST fun leveling experience ive ever had.
Its so good im actually taking it slow and reading quest text for the first time ever.
Also, im finally breaking the habit of using rotation helpers (Hekili) and Zygor quest arrows. Im actually using my brain now and it feels amazing to play WOW.
Nick this makes me super happy to read, I'm glad you're having fun on the Paladin! Nice one on the helper addons, this spec really doesn't need it. As for the UI, I will be creating my own for season 3 and making it available on the Discord for free as I don't like not being able to share this one. Naow's is really nice though, I'll give him that :D
@Dillisan I'll definitely try that UI! Been on the discord for a while now
@@Hawthorne2 Should be much easier to setup, Naow's was a pain in the arse lol
great series i watch them all religiously
Appreciate the love on the series
I run in a push group that is currently doing 23s and above. We take the usual augvoker, bearboi and spriest with a fire mage. Honestly I feel like it is partially the DPS's job to aid with such things. Healer may be a healer but with the current healcheck of the season it's needed. The bear is something I suspect should be offhealing with insta-cast regrowths, spriest with VE, and 'voker with verdant embrace, but, only when it's necessary. Externals are a much bigger thing for me in my opinion, things that provide group-wide DR like mass barrier and zephyr. The healing is something I can do personally, especially as a hpala, but in general looking out for bigger damage instances with externals really makes my job much less annoying!
Having switch to my Evoker and playing with my team we instantly noticed the difference. We also have a Shadow Priest and our Tank likes to rotate between Guardian and BDK. Apart from that we have a Survival Hunter and MW Monk so a little different there :D. We cleared all 20's with some 22's in the first week and I started at 414 ilvl so it was pretty nuts. Zephyr is really nice along with the rest of the package, offers much more than my DH lol.
@@Dillisan Aye this is the thing, healers are not solely reliant on externals but you notice the difference massively, so I am sure some offhealing from you is a good thing just don't get into the habit of doing it too often, dps still matters and only really chime in with the healing for certain mechanics
@@ravenlul4481 Yeah that was my thinking but I'm still relatively new to M+, I just did what I thought was needed...and as you may have seen, it was needed lol. Clearing the dots from first boss in BH felt great! "I'm helping" :D
@@Dillisan Your util usage is great, definitely carrying some of these runs :)
@@ravenlul4481 Still lacking in areas, lots to min-max but yeah, feels great so far :)
Couple of tips as a fellow pally enjoyer. You can freedom the cling on the last vp boss, i always try and put it on a healer or rdps so they dont have to stop what they're doing, also clears the dot from the dragons in halls & last uldaman boss, unbound freedom talent very good for these so you get it as well. Shield of vengeance should be used frequently as it's also a damage increase, use it when you know you're getting hit by something esp on bosses. You had no defensives rolling for a couple of the tough spots in the video and the healthier you are the more the healer can focus on the others, we're very very tanky this season if def's are used right. Also BoP will be your friend for the squishier members for gashtooth, and the bleed on 3rd uldaman boss
Good tips, thanks you. Utility is something I need a lot of work on but it's still early for me and I have a list of things I need to improve, these will be added! :)
I am enyoying these videos a lot. Your videos make me want to do more mpluses. Keep it going! I also liked that this is ret paladin. There is nothing wrong picking a good class as we hear the joy from your voice!!
Someone has to like my voice I guess :P glad you're enjoying the videos
Keep the series going. Would love to see your experience trying to pug all 20s if that is not too tall of an order. I'm still waiting for my friends to gear up their mains to do mine
There will be more episodes don't worry!
+16 only rewards 424 ilvl, this stuff is crazy to me. XD
I love this series by the way, as someone who hasn't done a ton of M+ in years, it's great to see the differences and the samesies. Keep truckin!
Sorry for the late reply! Glad you enjoy the content, big plans for Season 3 and beyond :)
Sorry to hear about the negative gear crafter experience. For future ref, you can protect yourself against that by putting a minimum quality level on the personal order, via the crafting order npcs.
I mean, the guy said it was guaranteed so I trusted them...does this actually save you? I never used it tbh, I'm a crafting noob D:
@@Dillisan The min quality you set is a threshold the crafter MUST be able to craft at otherwise the system won't let them accept/craft the order in the first place. So if you set it to rank 5 they must be able to craft it at rank 5 otherwise the system won't let them even attempt it.
Only downside I've found, being the crafter myself, is if I'm aiming to use the inspire chance/recrafts til the item rng's into rank 5. In those cases you need to set the item to rank 4 as min since if you set it to rank 5 the system will again prevent the crafter from taking the order.
@@MatthewMiller-n9i Thanks for the tips guys
@@Dillisan but a lot of people like myself i have to prock it by chance but with a generous Tg i will recraft until its max lvl. (i know you can use insights to garantie max quality items but i cant do it on all items)
@@archaon6574 I've had this experience and they were lovely about it, had to recraft an item 8-9 times and I think we both felt awful for each other at the end xD
u sound so much happer in the new pala vids mate.. im glad u found something u enjoy playing
I really am and I can't wait to play this with the community!
18:35 he is not lying about that vault gear I subscibed at tuesday and at wednesday weekly I got bis wepon :D anyway great video and great series
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I play retri, currently 444 (near 445) and struggle to get into 18's... I've got 2660 rating and currently have 8 20's in time (22 x2 and 1 x 21). The pugging scene for retri is fairly rough at the moment. Nice to see people trying it solo!
That sucks and really shouldn't be like this, the meta is ridiculous right now and players put too much on that to form groups. It's not needed, you can play anything to a really high key level
It's likely because of all these Rets that Dili plays with who are 440+ doing 60k overall in a key. It seems 90% of rets just don't know they have abilities to press. I tried my first +17 FH as ret (I'm a Prot main) at 446 iLvl and I did 187k overall, doing 100-110k on the bosses. How any 440+ Ret does below 120k overall in any key is beyond me.
Awsome vid as always! Glad to see you smashing this challenge!
OK, change my old estimate of 8 weeks to 4.
I clearly under estimated you lol
Excited to see more!
4?! I'm insulted :P
Thanks Sam, glad you're enjoying the videos, thank you for the love and support
@@Dillisan I mean, better then the 8 I guessed last time lol, your doing this lot faster then I did
@@samuelhellewell2880 Alright I'll take it :P
No as a healer I love when people help out. But an awful lot of players feel insulted by the idea of using their personal defenses or doing some self healing :D My personal favourite is when a hybrid class has a dispell and actually uses it. On themselves. I don´t even ask them to help dispelling other people.
Well I will continue to offheal and be that superhero no one ever asked for \o/
suggestion for your paladin. I think it should be a +20 to all dungeons in fort and tyrannical kind of series. Since it will be your main and you enjoying it.
Share with us your journey, do with pugs, friends, community or anyone, we want to see your paladin's progress and journey.
Not sure it will cover all 20's for both weeks, maybe not even all portals but I do have plans :)
Dillisan, I want to say thank you for the series! It's great! One tip I would like to give - if you haven't already figured it out - is to make sure you face your character properly when Divine Storming. In a couple clips in #1 and #2 vods I've seen you pull extra mobs with it. When you Divine Storm - thanks to a talent, you send a projectile out from your character. This can, and will pull mobs not in combat. :)
Appreciated but it wasn't Divine Storm, I talked about it in those episodes actually.
for the pull onto raoul in freehold. the safest way is to wait for him to cast barrel smash then run over and tag the pack to bring them in. normally the tank will be back on the boss before he even moves and has no risk of leaving the arena and resetting.
I honestly just wait for Eudora to die and just grab a pack or two straight away. You're probably right though :D
There is actually a rule: THe one that does the least, tends to have a biggest chance for loot. Me and my mates have tested this multiple times, we have trolled our keys time and time again, our friend has been like: I wont do any trash dmg this run, and im gonna kms 10 times, im only gonna pump on bosses just enough for it to not be obvious, and he ends up getting loot every single time, and we just laugh
Dude that is actually ridiculous and something I HAVE TO TRY! Incredible if true lol.
@@Dillisan it started when we were teaching a friend to play and he always got loot, and it evolved into that
As a 2700io ret, I envy your trinket drops so much. I remember in season 1 when you said you wanted to try ret and I am happy you are enjoying it.
A few notes:
Above 17-18s, tank rotations and pulls doeasn't change much so it's up to the dps to have enough dps and not get oneshot. Your tank friend did great.
On HOI dragons and last boss of Uldaman, your freedom stops the DOT and helps the healer a lot.
You will almost never have as much single target dps as a dk in m+ if they are a bit competent.
I would be happy to make an all pally dungeon of an 18 or something :D
Trinkets have deffo been good to me on this guy, I've had awful luck since Dragonflight started though so it's about time.
Yeah the Tank smashed it, they were great :)
A good tip to get some big chunky dps on the pally is to make sure you are always using Wake of Ashes with Final Reckoning or Execution sentence, they should like up with each other as long as you dont sit on their cooldowns
Bit hard to mess up when they're available every single pack, it's amazing :D
I appreciate it when people start healing if everything goes south, but when I have nothing to do in the first place I prefer to be the only one focussed on healing so I dont waste my bigger spells like dreambreath or spiritblossom because they have a longer cast time. It can look like I let people drop too far but in reality I am basically trying to get as much use out of it as possible
congratulation for the journey sir, it's the second video i'm watching from you on YT and this feels very nice to watch. Been running neltharion Lair myself between 11s-16s range for exactly 64 time since tuesday (16 of the 64 runs where with 2 friends that tried to help me to get Mark of dargul) and never seen it dropped yet, still in pursuit of the madness till we got this trinket and then i guess i'm out of NL for a whole week xD. i wish you good sir, take care
I appreciate you Rayanne and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, much love
Dilli, that was a belt from the Brack, not legs, haha. You still have the crafted one, just made me giggle thinking about wearing a belt as pants, I guess. :D
Another Dilli derp, my bad :D
Awsome video🤟makes me wanna pick up my ret pala😂 ret was actually my first ever toon in wow when i started🤟what talent build are you running
Yo OSK! Do it, it's so much fun! KSM on that one too? :D
I am running the Crusader Strikes build on wowhead mostly but requires different stats that wowhead doesn't seem to mention, I go over this in Episode 1. I have a few more builds for specific situations, incorporeal etc
@@Dillisan oh oki have to revisit ep 1 then😂 nah do not think i have the time for it but wil see🤟
Made me smile out loud :)
Like the Grinch I hope? I smile eeeeeeeeeeeverytime I go brr :)
I’m late but I love this series so far! I’m planning on getting my paladin geared because of how fun you made it seem. Thanks 🫡
Main healer at 3k rio full pugged, the group healing and using defensives is a must. If they don't, it's basically guaranteed deplete due to the amount of dmg. However they still have to do high dmg, so it's more about knowing how when why in order to maximize both damage done + healing, and reduce as much as possible the damage taken.
The less the healer has to heal the smoother the run unless hpal which is healing basically like pre 25% buff to hp n dmg
Pugged to 3k, you are my hero!
I'm still fairly new to M+ having only started properly in S1 so there are a lot of things I need to learn and understand, this was one of them. I feel like DPS should be doing all they can to help the group, not only the healer. But there are so many DPS that don't even use their defensives. I must admit, my sound pack has been super helpful at letting me know the best times to do so and that's saved my life many times.
Rotation difficulty: Easy.
Group acceptance Difficulty: Expert
100%
plaing druid heal premade5 for the addon so far. my pally tank keeps sniping hps from me all day. loving it, so many ppl would have died without him doing so. were "only" playing 20s semi casual, but my slow ass hot druid ass loves other ppl helping. man my shamen bursting 80k guidance hps sometimes and SP dose the same thing. thinking about that, i guess i dont heal my group at all sometimes.
Do they make you feel redundant? You guys should try a no-healer run by the sounds of it, go DPS xD
as a healer I do find it a little rude when my dps off heal... defensives are obviously going to be used but the off healing is what sets me off. I do have to swallow my pride though when it comes to 20's I need all the help I can get when pugging those....OOOF
I heal when I feel like I have to, which in this case has been pretty often lol. It feels great being able to help out I will admit
Hey Dilli, love watching your vids as always, and this nudged me to try pala again (was planning to main it in 10.1, but got shammy instead), anyway as I was mainly healing on Sham and then on Drakthyr, please DPS go ahead and help with healing :D some packs and bosses are brutal.
Try healing with Pala, after the rework its kinda fun, reminds me of mistweaver, but maybe more fun?
Thanks Nacek, glad you're enjoying the content!
MW would be a hard one to beat for me but I do plan on trying Holy at some point, plus it looks great! I heal all the time on the Ret to help the group, might as well go full healer :D
bluds finally good at a class
Wow, shots fired xD
@@Dillisan hahaha, was a compliment
@@dufftymc Suuuuuuuure
dont know if u know this, but u can pump down the key by the monk lady in front of the portals :)
Yeah I'm aware, why would I wanna do this though? Dilli needs KSH :P
I've binged your whole series. You're awesome!
No you
lol divine storm and bladestorm (cause im an arms warrior) go brrrrr xD
You spin to win! But I will accept this :D
As healer helping with healing is really helpful especialy in this season where the healing checks are insanely painful and constant
I agree and even at lower keys our groups have been struggling so I've noticed my impact.
Remember that when you hit KSM you should have got a tier Omni-token so you can get a free piece of heroic level tier if you have a spot that’s lower.
i got KSM because of this guys videos and since i had mythic level pants from the vault i just picked up the elite warrior pvp shoulders because honestly im never gonna hit 1800 rating in pvp because i suck lol so its nice that i can now have an elite piece of pvp gear when the next season starts.
Yeah I wanted to wait for next weeks vault, I didn't forget about this ;)
Demon Huntard is the new Huntard
I want to see you guys push keys with ya pala and the team
Could be arranged, I just have to persuade the team to drop my Aug Evoker lol
Dilli goes brrr!
Ya daaaaamn right! :D
I mean, brrr.
Hey, great vid. What's the addon that shows you your talents next to your character pane?
Thank you, glad you enjoyed! That's an addon called Narcissus :)
The class trinket is fun... but not on a volcanic week.
It's still fun :D
The aug evoker is one of my guildies
Oh nice (I hope)! :D
What addon is that, for inspecting your gear in the beginning?
That's Narcissus
"Nope" 😂
:D
Surviving the dungeon is teamwork so helping with heals isnt insulting at all.
Exactly :)
please please, dont forget to use the draconic mark in your bags you can use to buy a heroic ilvl tier piece
I was saving it ;)
Dilly I'm confused on the Ret pala 2.7k comment in the 17ULD, he was barely 2k lol
I can't find the Paladin now but I'm sure that's what my tooltip said unless that was their rating last season. Maybe my mistake
Where can I find your plater profile? Looks really clean.
You have to sub to Naowh's Twitch to gain access to most of my UI. I will be making my own for Season 3 very soon which will look fairly similar and completely FREEE to download from my Discord so lookout for that.
An alternative that I would highly recommend is Quazii's, completely FREE and looks pretty much the same. He does great stuff.
@@Dillisan Thanks! I've been using the Quazii plater profile with some minor tweaks, but your bars just looked a bit nicer. I'll have to check out the one from Naowh. Been using imfiredup's UI and liking it.
Also will be on the lookout for yours once the next season starts.
is there a list for addons? clean as hell
Not yet as this is Naow's UI and requires a sub to his Twitch to get it all. But next week I will start building one very similar and will be completely FREE and available on the Discord so stay tuned for that
I am a Ret main myself and in 95% of the time i dominate the other Ret in my Team no matter what ilvl he has
I smoked a Single Target build 5ilv higher than me with my M+ build in LFR on an Boss without that much adds
In generel some of the worst players i encountert played Ret and i got the feeling that the generall opinion is that Ret is not good because like no one can play them
My ST lacks and I'm probably not completely min-maxing there, still much to improve on. Though I love inviting another Ret and smashing it, feels great xD.
As a healer main, I want you to press your personal defensives and not to stand in the bad. You do that we good.
We good. :)
How did you get that character preview screen and modified item plates?
That's an addon called Narcissus :)
Why do you run m0 for the weekly. You can just get it organically with all the m+ you do over time.
It's just how I like to do things and is so much quicker.
I subscribed to this channel and recieved a Rashok's Molten Heart
See, Dilli don't lie! Congrats :D
@@Dillisan I shit u not I did after this video did a hc run and two dropped
@@LOWIQXD King Ragnar gets showered with loots from the gods :)
@@Dillisan :D just a 3k Rio andy who likes the awesome and simple content u make, keep on going. By simple I mean no sweaty methods etc, plain and simple noobs POV that could be followed when stepping into the M+ scene etc. Keep it up there are some series/classes I'll be looking out for ! Would be awesome for you to enter a tip or two for every episode, you know like tip of the video or something for example "If doing NL, then melee shouldn't target Pelters so they wouldn't jump" something like that !
@@LOWIQXD I throw some tips in there at some point and I actually mention the pelters in episode 3 lol. Glad you're enjoying the content, much love
As a healer, I despise healing groups that do not utilize defensive cds, self heals and whatnot. You have the abilty to help out, so why not do it like?
But but then the damage meter will tell me i'm bad at life :)
As a fellow part time healer your 100% right there are way too many people that roll a "hybrid" class and then practically refuse to use the utility they have to help fellow party member.
Some healers have actually commented to say they get offended by our healing, I won't stop though. If the party needs it I will help, can't deal damage if the party is dead!
@@Dillisan sounds like an insecure and selfish lot ^^,
Might be able to do that in lower keys but at some point you'll need the help.
Wellwell, their loss
whats your addon for your character panel
That's an addon called: Narcissus
How do you get that character panel? I want it!
Download an addon called Narcissus :)
Am really loving this series, and as a Ret Pally player, has got me wanting to overcome my fear of pushing +16's more
Prob a silly question, but what is the addon used at the start of the vid, showing the character, Gear, and stats?
Glad you're enjoying and pushing further, good luck! That addon is called Narcissus :)
brr?
like a dragon?
No no, Dwagons go RAWR!
What stats should ret aim for in m+? pls dont tell me to sim pls
WoWhead explains stats for the generic build, though I use a Crusaders Strike build which you need more haste for. With gear most go for roughly 30% haste then aim for crit/vers for the rest. Mastery we avoid
I guess it is just me but KSM and KSH are way too easy, the real challenge would be getting all the 20s in time for the portals, anyways i enjoy your videos ^^
For me personally, KSM isn't an issue. KSH on my healer (purely pugging), I would struggle at times as I lack confidence and it would be stressful. For a lot of players, KSM is hard and a lot don't even achieve it. There are many skill levels in WoW and too many players don't realise this because they are above average.
I don't mind going for portals, not 3k though lol, I'll get those with the team xD
Cries in NA :(
I'm sad too :(
For third boss of underrot just taunt boss tbh
I should have
All 20s challenge, 2500 too easy!
Easy for you maybe, for a lot of players it's not. I could go for some portals though ;)
You should put people's name that scam. So you can protect other from going through the same thing
I understand why some may do this but it's not my style and I certainly don't want to put anything like this is my videos.
Dude has the gendered speech thing down to a science.
>.>
Unfortunately, beacon fell off. Better off getting anvil now, my paladin brother.
I don't care, I still want one! And Anvil but that never drops :(
if u have fun for this, go for 3k as a target
I'm not sure I have the mental capacity for pugging 3k lol
@@Dillisan u never know if u dont try >:D
@@helvegen2449 I would like to finish this one, not fail xD
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what is the song at 15:45?
That is: Blindspot - STRLGHT
@@Dillisan ty! Great vid btw
played many years balance druid was best for me so i can switch to heal or tank in raid if needed.... after 4 years break came back to my guild and said i can play what u need or want....well it was the Demon Hunter....
Since 2 months i play it and idk but i dont really like it so much.... most times u are fucked in m+ one wrong fellrush u die one wrong button no dps.... so stupid -.- so i can understand u there xD
DH is very punishing if you mess up parts of your rotation, Ret is super forgiving! You should give it a go :)
And yeah, Demon Hunters can often butt pull mobs like those pesky Hunters...but I don't wanna start beef with Demon Hunters so we'll keep that hush hush :D
i dont know why you dont want to expos scum who skim you out of crafted gear. not everyone buys wow tokens and for them getting riped of bis items must feel terrible.
It's just not me, it won't achieve anything and both myself and the crafter would probably just end up receiving abuse, I don't want that. I have never purchased WoW tokens but the amount of gold I'm spending this expansion I might consider it lol
first also gigahype video
DilliHYPE!
Nah, name and shame that sorta behaviour. Otherwise it'll just continue and that player will continue scamming others.
I'm not gonna cause anyone any hassle, both myself and the crafter would receive abuse and it's not worth it.
@@Dillisan You're a bigger man than me then! Perhaps that's why your content is so enjoyable, literal definition of good vibes
@@antonhagelberg7430 We're all about positivity in this community, even if someone's being a complete butt face. They could be going through something mentally and we'd never know, I would hate to add to that.