I finally got the balls to ask a dude who plays guitar to start a band. We're still looking for a drummer but we're trying to start practicing soon. I'm so hyped to write awful songs and perform in front of 2 random drunk dudes and have a good time.
Point 9, about being realistic is so true. I'm good friends with the chats and the cosmic psychos (these bands in Australia are known all across the country and quite legendary in the Aussie Punk world), they toured with the guns and roses last year, just went to America but they are still struggling and couch surfing. I remember meeting them for the first time a few years back and each time, both bands said to me "Never quit your day job, you can always do what you love on the side but if you love it enough you will make time for it with your safety net in the back pocket". I've learnt a lot from these guys. I'm about to go on tour with them in 2 weeks but these words have always rung true with me and I'll continue to stick by it. Meeting the Psychos and living in Australia taught me a lot about public perception thinking they were all it was cracked up to be these big rockstars but actually going to their house, meeting the families and visually seeing it made me switch my perspective about putting expectation before reality but I admire the 30+ years of hardship to chase your dream. Love your videos Wyatt.
Me personally, I had always wanted to be the lead singer of a rock band. I did start playing bass after my brother picked up guitar, but would always be writing lyrics and songs, mostly in the style of punk rock. Eventually my high school youth group was starting a band to play at our weekly meetings, so I joined that up, and it was a darn good time. We practiced once during the weekend, then again right before the youth group meetings, and for a bunch of high school kids playing Christian punk and ska covers, we were...probably awful. After that, me and my two buddies broke off from the youth group band to form a "real" band where we'd play our own songs. It really can be just that easy to start bands.
It is quite easy to become part of a band when you follow a certain religion. I once attended a prayer session at a classmate's house on a Saturday, even though we were supposed to be working on a project. I was an atheist then and still am now, so it felt weird when we had to share our feelings in a circle. Our classmate played the keyboard and sang, which is normal for children of that religion as they are required to perform during prayer sessions whether it's done at home or in a Church where they perform in a band. However, yes I don't think it would be a good idea to form a punk or metal band with them . Instead, it would be better to look for a youth group that is not necessarily formed for religious purposes.
the thing about starting a band with your friends is very true me and a friend started a band a fair bit ago and we added one of my other friends later on drums and it sucked so bad i ended up realizing it was mainly cause i wasn't as motivated to play slower stuff and neither was the drummer like we originally planned and we ended up separating til me and my drummer friend got back together to write some faster stuff and were currently working on our second song and trying to grind on that project doing much better than the previous band and I'm excited for the future of doing a bunch of backyard gigs and playing tiny venues
Would love of a video of the more complicated financial issues that happen with a band that has been around for a while. Every band seems to run through it. Do you form a corporation? Do you issue "shares" for each member? How does the writing & playing get credited exactly because this effects the royalties. What happens when a original member leaves and a new person comes on. Do they get put on the same amount of shares as the last member or are they a hired employee now? Gets complicated if your band becomes your income. Look at Slipknot and a bunch of other bands. It's way easier when you're playing for a few people and just splitting the cash off some local shows and maybe Bandcamp. But it gets complicated fast when you start touring, hitting bigger streaming numbers and sales and get popular. Plus not to mention you never know how all the members truly feel about each other 2-3-4-5 years or more down the line. I just make music for the fun of it, and my band is fictional lol, and I've only made like $5 off whatever I've put out, so definitely not an issue for me lol but I can see how it can get harder in some aspects for real bands if they find some success.
Future headliner band member here, and i have to say I think this will help a lot on my journey. I'm starting at the very beginning and just starting to learn my first. instrument. I hope that one day following your tips, I can be apart of the next biggest hit in the metal world. Dream big and start small, but never give up on your grand vision, it can be done, the world is what you make it.
My friend and I are gonna form a grunge band when he gets a guitar and we are still trying to find a bassist and drummer, and maybe a singer. It’s hard to find musicians in high school nowadays!
At the starts of Junior high school, i was put in a band, even though i never asked to be in, i played the intro for do i wanna know and the next day i was in the band, we agreed to practice every week, i once didn't show up bc i ws sick, didn't practice next week because the singer didnt want to, and then we disbanded, in only 2 weeks
10:26 I can't stress that enough. Ive been gonig to local shows for years and it always irked me when people performed on stage looking like they dont wanna be there. because i would tell old bandmates "dont just stand there! move around, bang your head, do SOMETHING. atleast act like you're having fun." but they would always get defensive & call me controlling 🙄😒 like, no, if YOU don't give a shit, the crowd wont.
This past monday I played a show with my band, great venue, but not many people showed up (understandable, since it was on a fucking monday and the place is a bit far away from the center). Still, the organization had treated us very good, the stage is awesome, sound and light people are the best and some of our friends were there, so we went out and gave it all. We had a blast, I hit one of the guitar players by accident and made him mess up his solo and we just kept rolling. After we got down from the stage, one of the organizers came up to us and congratulated us for our performance, said they would count with us for next years edition, for wich they intend to bring at least one big headliner. So yeah, I confirm everything Wyatt said on this video.
I used to be in one of those typical high school metal bands. It was fun for a bit. Here's the short backstory on how things went downhill very quickly. I was the keyboardist who didn't know how to play keyboard. My friend knew this but wanted me to join anyway. I did and then she was surprised that I didn't know keyboard. I was kicked from the band not too long after and soon after that the band fell apart because it became a clash of egos for everyone who remained. Fun times. Currently trying to put together my own mini group to play some shows and just have fun. You definitely hit the nail with this video. All your points are dead on. Don't expect much at all when starting out. Just do what you can with what you have and make the best of it. Also practice. Like a lot!
To bands starting out: That guy just standing there with his arms crossed had the time of his life and will tell all his friends about it Also I know of a few small bands who barely break even on tours, its not for the for everyone and the way to the top isnt easy.
The issue with the internet. Is when you’re on stage and going to do something cool or special. It will not be a surprise at the next show 500 hundred miles away Because of the internet everybody already knows about it and seen it on line. So the internet messes up show surprise stuff. So the net is good for marketing but bad for live surprises on stage. Yeah the was a time before the internet when it was easier to stay fresh. And. I do think the internet is here to stay !!!! Keep metal alive.
I'll say this about trying to find band members, at least in the Atlanta scene, drummers and bassists are gonna be hard to find. My front man is lucky he found our bassist, me lol Embering Effigy is our band. We're Southern Fried Thrash
IM SO LUCKY! Nothing at all is set in concrete yet, but i play guitar and my friend plays bass, and we have two other friends who have guitars and sing really well (they dont play much so we dk if theyre actually going to get involved or not) and my friend found someone who is learning drums who happens to be dating one of the possible guitarists/singers! And theyre all super awesome people (altough one of the possibles is my ex..) lmao but yea weve been throwing around ideas of forming a band, and practice together in school and sometimes at eachothers houses - its awesome! And it just sort of FELL INTO PLACE! sm1 reply to this later and ill update
Also me, bassist and drummer have quite a bit of music taste in common, and I'm really fluid in my music taste (will listen to, learn, and play whatever as long as I can get the hang of it lol) so hopefully we wont have any clashes in what we want to play, or we can have a slightly wider range of playing abilities :)
Great video! Quick question, will you make a video on how to do harsh vocals in the future? I really like your style of explaining things so maybe you can help me figure out screaming, which a lot of other tutorials certainly didn't... 😂
I am not sure how to exactly find someone else who plays something. But I would really like to. I have a rough vision for a band I’m almost ready to form
I've really wanted to start / join a band but my friends either are already in one or don't play any instruments. My school also tears apart any inch of individuality. What do I do?
As a 50 year old guy who hasn't been in a band since my 20s, I'm thinking of trying to start a Metallica cover band. I can almost play MoP correctly again :D Now I just gotta find 3 other old dudes hitting midlife crises.
what do i do as a 15 year old dude that live in a small rural town with like 5 other metalheads and they are all 5 years older than me and only wanna play the most brutal music ever when i want to play thrash?
I’m planning on starting a band, and this vid should be pretty helpful. I already have a name planned along with some song names and even some lyrics finished (I’m a singer). My friend who plays drums was with the idea, but he quit bc he wants some weird thing called a degree? Honestly never heard of such thing but it sounds lame as hell
I finally got the balls to ask a dude who plays guitar to start a band. We're still looking for a drummer but we're trying to start practicing soon. I'm so hyped to write awful songs and perform in front of 2 random drunk dudes and have a good time.
Go for it dude, I am also looking for some guys to play with but most people I know already are in one or don't like metal
Maybe doing drugs will get the ball rolling.?
You sound like you have the right attitude about it! 🤘 Good luck
That's the spirit
Where would I find a guitarist?
Tip for bands, when you play with other bands, go out and watch the other bands. Cheer for them, go nuts for them and support them.
“Four other guys” me a girl, who’s in a rock band with three other girls and one guy
Your practice space probably smells better than ours
He’s a lucky guy 😏
You being an extra in the master is actually cool af whatttt
It was a cool experience haha
The very first time i performed there was like 10 people in the audience. We were so fucking stoked.
When, Kids and People We didn't know..
Started The Pit...
30 seconds into the set...
Cheers from Southern California
Point 9, about being realistic is so true. I'm good friends with the chats and the cosmic psychos (these bands in Australia are known all across the country and quite legendary in the Aussie Punk world), they toured with the guns and roses last year, just went to America but they are still struggling and couch surfing. I remember meeting them for the first time a few years back and each time, both bands said to me "Never quit your day job, you can always do what you love on the side but if you love it enough you will make time for it with your safety net in the back pocket". I've learnt a lot from these guys. I'm about to go on tour with them in 2 weeks but these words have always rung true with me and I'll continue to stick by it. Meeting the Psychos and living in Australia taught me a lot about public perception thinking they were all it was cracked up to be these big rockstars but actually going to their house, meeting the families and visually seeing it made me switch my perspective about putting expectation before reality but I admire the 30+ years of hardship to chase your dream.
Love your videos Wyatt.
Me personally, I had always wanted to be the lead singer of a rock band. I did start playing bass after my brother picked up guitar, but would always be writing lyrics and songs, mostly in the style of punk rock.
Eventually my high school youth group was starting a band to play at our weekly meetings, so I joined that up, and it was a darn good time. We practiced once during the weekend, then again right before the youth group meetings, and for a bunch of high school kids playing Christian punk and ska covers, we were...probably awful.
After that, me and my two buddies broke off from the youth group band to form a "real" band where we'd play our own songs.
It really can be just that easy to start bands.
It is quite easy to become part of a band when you follow a certain religion. I once attended a prayer session at a classmate's house on a Saturday, even though we were supposed to be working on a project. I was an atheist then and still am now, so it felt weird when we had to share our feelings in a circle.
Our classmate played the keyboard and sang, which is normal for children of that religion as they are required to perform during prayer sessions whether it's done at home or in a Church where they perform in a band. However, yes I don't think it would be a good idea to form a punk or metal band with them . Instead, it would be better to look for a youth group that is not necessarily formed for religious purposes.
This is the one reason I'm looking into joining my church youth group lol
the thing about starting a band with your friends is very true me and a friend started a band a fair bit ago and we added one of my other friends later on drums and it sucked so bad i ended up realizing it was mainly cause i wasn't as motivated to play slower stuff and neither was the drummer like we originally planned and we ended up separating til me and my drummer friend got back together to write some faster stuff and were currently working on our second song and trying to grind on that project doing much better than the previous band and I'm excited for the future of doing a bunch of backyard gigs and playing tiny venues
Would love of a video of the more complicated financial issues that happen with a band that has been around for a while. Every band seems to run through it. Do you form a corporation? Do you issue "shares" for each member? How does the writing & playing get credited exactly because this effects the royalties. What happens when a original member leaves and a new person comes on. Do they get put on the same amount of shares as the last member or are they a hired employee now? Gets complicated if your band becomes your income. Look at Slipknot and a bunch of other bands. It's way easier when you're playing for a few people and just splitting the cash off some local shows and maybe Bandcamp. But it gets complicated fast when you start touring, hitting bigger streaming numbers and sales and get popular. Plus not to mention you never know how all the members truly feel about each other 2-3-4-5 years or more down the line. I just make music for the fun of it, and my band is fictional lol, and I've only made like $5 off whatever I've put out, so definitely not an issue for me lol but I can see how it can get harder in some aspects for real bands if they find some success.
Future headliner band member here, and i have to say I think this will help a lot on my journey. I'm starting at the very beginning and just starting to learn my first. instrument. I hope that one day following your tips, I can be apart of the next biggest hit in the metal world. Dream big and start small, but never give up on your grand vision, it can be done, the world is what you make it.
I was drummer in 5 bands all metal 1 i recorded with. I later bacsme a session drummer for my old guitarists studio.
My friend and I are gonna form a grunge band when he gets a guitar and we are still trying to find a bassist and drummer, and maybe a singer. It’s hard to find musicians in high school nowadays!
At the starts of Junior high school, i was put in a band, even though i never asked to be in, i played the intro for do i wanna know and the next day i was in the band, we agreed to practice every week, i once didn't show up bc i ws sick, didn't practice next week because the singer didnt want to, and then we disbanded, in only 2 weeks
My god, such perfect advice. Love the screw up samples. This is so encouraging
10:26 I can't stress that enough. Ive been gonig to local shows for years and it always irked me when people performed on stage looking like they dont wanna be there. because i would tell old bandmates "dont just stand there! move around, bang your head, do SOMETHING. atleast act like you're having fun." but they would always get defensive & call me controlling 🙄😒
like, no, if YOU don't give a shit, the crowd wont.
you are SO right with that one, how is telling someone they need to actually try 'controlling'?
This past monday I played a show with my band, great venue, but not many people showed up (understandable, since it was on a fucking monday and the place is a bit far away from the center). Still, the organization had treated us very good, the stage is awesome, sound and light people are the best and some of our friends were there, so we went out and gave it all. We had a blast, I hit one of the guitar players by accident and made him mess up his solo and we just kept rolling. After we got down from the stage, one of the organizers came up to us and congratulated us for our performance, said they would count with us for next years edition, for wich they intend to bring at least one big headliner. So yeah, I confirm everything Wyatt said on this video.
Cool, what kind of drugs were there?
@@russell2910 allegedly, none.
@@russell2910its not the only comment on thid video about drugs. Your bandmates need to intervene you 😂😂😂😂
Nice gutteral vocals wyatt. Watched the 1st gig. Nice.😊
I used to be in one of those typical high school metal bands. It was fun for a bit. Here's the short backstory on how things went downhill very quickly. I was the keyboardist who didn't know how to play keyboard. My friend knew this but wanted me to join anyway. I did and then she was surprised that I didn't know keyboard. I was kicked from the band not too long after and soon after that the band fell apart because it became a clash of egos for everyone who remained. Fun times.
Currently trying to put together my own mini group to play some shows and just have fun. You definitely hit the nail with this video. All your points are dead on. Don't expect much at all when starting out. Just do what you can with what you have and make the best of it. Also practice. Like a lot!
Great advice. Thanks so much for your content. I can't help it though but, "a lot" is two words. I know, i know.
Thats sick that you were an extra in The Master. Really great movie.
thanks for the info. im curranty trying to start my own band so this might be helpful.
Dude your awesome!!!
Your videos always make me miss playing live brother.
To bands starting out: That guy just standing there with his arms crossed had the time of his life and will tell all his friends about it
Also I know of a few small bands who barely break even on tours, its not for the for everyone and the way to the top isnt easy.
Great video, keep it up man. Your my favorite metal youtuber!
Thank you!
Great video I wanna start a hard rock thrash new metal band 🤘🤘
The issue with the internet. Is when you’re on stage and going to do something cool or special. It will not be a surprise at the next show 500 hundred miles away Because of the internet everybody already knows about it and seen it on line. So the internet messes up show surprise stuff. So the net is good for marketing but bad for live surprises on stage. Yeah the was a time before the internet when it was easier to stay fresh. And. I do think the internet is here to stay !!!! Keep metal alive.
Great video dude! All of it's basically the quintessential checklist, but 7 and 8 ESPECIALLY.
Thanks bro!
Great Video Dude my dream would be starting a metal band so this video really helps
Are you looking for a singer/vocalist?
I'll say this about trying to find band members, at least in the Atlanta scene, drummers and bassists are gonna be hard to find. My front man is lucky he found our bassist, me lol Embering Effigy is our band. We're Southern Fried Thrash
IM SO LUCKY! Nothing at all is set in concrete yet, but i play guitar and my friend plays bass, and we have two other friends who have guitars and sing really well (they dont play much so we dk if theyre actually going to get involved or not) and my friend found someone who is learning drums who happens to be dating one of the possible guitarists/singers! And theyre all super awesome people (altough one of the possibles is my ex..) lmao but yea weve been throwing around ideas of forming a band, and practice together in school and sometimes at eachothers houses - its awesome! And it just sort of FELL INTO PLACE!
sm1 reply to this later and ill update
Also me, bassist and drummer have quite a bit of music taste in common, and I'm really fluid in my music taste (will listen to, learn, and play whatever as long as I can get the hang of it lol) so hopefully we wont have any clashes in what we want to play, or we can have a slightly wider range of playing abilities :)
Great video! Quick question, will you make a video on how to do harsh vocals in the future? I really like your style of explaining things so maybe you can help me figure out screaming, which a lot of other tutorials certainly didn't... 😂
I can give it a shot!
What kind of vocals are you trying to do?
I am not sure how to exactly find someone else who plays something. But I would really like to. I have a rough vision for a band I’m almost ready to form
Are you guys thinking of coming to northern CA?
Putting together a band rn cos a venue near me is desperate (and i mean DESPERATE) for bands to play there
I've been there. 3 bands in my area were born out of tjat basically
My names Wyatt so hopefully this tutorial works out for me
how did you guys get a euro tour booked as a new band?
I've really wanted to start / join a band but my friends either are already in one or don't play any instruments. My school also tears apart any inch of individuality. What do I do?
A band is 10% talent and 90% commitment.
Take out the word instrument and replace with the word drug. 😊
As a 50 year old guy who hasn't been in a band since my 20s, I'm thinking of trying to start a Metallica cover band. I can almost play MoP correctly again :D Now I just gotta find 3 other old dudes hitting midlife crises.
Name of your band could be the “DADS”. I’m in my 50s. Also. So I know how you feel. Where do you live. I’m in Maryland the southern part of it
Every band started as a cover band !!!! Cool stuff huh.
It takes years of playing live because you have to have to get your tolerance for your drugs up or you might die.
what do i do as a 15 year old dude that live in a small rural town with like 5 other metalheads and they are all 5 years older than me and only wanna play the most brutal music ever when i want to play thrash?
I got pretty good at Rock band😂
Most difficult is finding bandmates. Been trying for a year to find suitable players.
Are you looking for a singer/vocalist?
I would join I sing
I wanna start one some day,i already got my friends.
why do you sound like nate petroski enjoyed the video though
Anybody wanna join my Melodic Death/Thrash/Power Metal with Queen influence band?
I would love to join
@@tinymedia797 I used to play keyboard, though I'm very rusty
@@tinymedia797 I'm little rusty on the keyboards though 😅
This is soo helpful and funny too🥲❤
I’m planning on starting a band, and this vid should be pretty helpful. I already have a name planned along with some song names and even some lyrics finished (I’m a singer). My friend who plays drums was with the idea, but he quit bc he wants some weird thing called a degree? Honestly never heard of such thing but it sounds lame as hell
Yeah degrees are kind of weird. I hope he doesn't go into debt