CRINGE. The gap between standalone, console and PC is closing. ??? Yeah, 10/10/23 was a day that will live in infamy. NVidia, AMD, Intel all just said lets just STOP developing any new tech. Sad day for gaming :(
I just got it and have no clue what these reviewers are talking about regarding FOV on the quest 3, i still have a quest 2 and immeaditly noticed the difference in the lens size. Quest 3 is noticibly bigger, and when setting the facial interface closest to my face, i looked harder to tell when comparing the valve index, not the quest 2. Compared to quest 2, the fov is a noticeable bump and looks much less like looking through binoculars.
The thing with VR headsets, is that bone structure and skull structure do affect the perceptual experience of a VR headset; so does the individuals perceptual system itself. These variables can make VR headset experiences highly subjective.
I think with the added cover as well as the bobo vr strap, he is a good deal further away from the lenses than he needs to be. If close to your face it's absolutely an improvement.
@@budbutterson9577 it is not that, but i am more pc player than vr user, i only use my rift sometime, so my priority going to my computer, maybe switch and after i will invest in vr vr is not bad, but it is just i really hate use it in summer and also after one hour it become to be hard to use it
My issue with quest is it doesnt have enough AAA games... completely understand people can hook it up to a computer but not everyone has a powerful enough computer - the quest arguably is an entry level VR headset but most of the games seem to be incomplete, experiences, or poor quality - theres only a handful of decent games. But the same can be said for PSVR. Sadly it doesnt have the commitment to bring better games which is why Meta keep pushing alternative experiences. Personally i love 3D movies and would love if they had a 3D movie store on the quest.
The mixed reality is what really sells me. So amazing to me and I probably would not buy it if it was just another VR headset. Hope Meta keeps expanding on it and adding more MR games and experiences. Thanks for the great review.
Just keep in mind it's very early so it won't be perfect and fast movements will cause a lot of warping. Also you will need the right lighting conditions for it to not be grainy. It does seem very cool though.
My Quest 3 is very responsive compared to my Q2. It is not perfect by any means though and I'd say probably 5-10 years before we get really good mixed reality devices and software. This is still the dawn of a new era as digital and physical slowly merge 😊
@@karkir-joharkarntkristkark9507 deckard is the new steam console. Many people thought it was a VR headset but alas the index is still the best on the market for PCVR
I dont think the price is slowing it down honestly. I went to best buy today and they were sold out. There are 5 in decent vicinity to me. There was only one store close by with any left. I was at the one store bought online for pickup in store at the other store and had the employee there call to get them to put the one i ordered back then so they didn't sell out before my order processed and they could grab it. The other store had 9 left, but they were kind enough to grab it anyway and by the time i got over there they had sold out also
Great video I appreciate the complete honesty. Lots of people are disappointed with the quality of passthrough including myself. Guess we got dupped when all the recording quality was way more clear than what you actually experience. Oh well I’m not to setback by it but some people “literally wanna cry.. 😅” I bought the quest 2 and it was my first vr experience so of course it was amazing but sadly the novelty wore off rather quickly. Mainly due to tragic motion sickness. That stuff made me sick just thinking about wearing the headset. But I don’t think it helped that the headset was so top heavy and hot. I can proudly say tho the quest 3 did not give me motion sickness nearly as bad as quest 2. The strap is ok but the headset itself is a huge improvement as far as comfort and I think that goes a long way in sickness experiences. Overall it’s a nifty piece of tech and I’m a proud supporter of the continued development and evolution of the tech regardless of what company it’s coming from. Cheers
Nice to hear about the motion sickness. I've had a quest 1 and a quest 2 and always just end up getting bored and literally sick while playing most games, so I ended up selling them. Like you, even the thought of wearing one again makes me feel ill. I really don't think I'll ever enjoy full VR, but the MR really entices me to give it another try.
My tv has delay when using bluetooth headphones, but I fixed it by using an aptX bluetooth transmitter, then an aptX bluetooth receiver to plug the headphones into. Absolutely no lag. If the headphones already support aptX, then you just need the transmitter. The brand I bought was HomeSpot. Both transmitter and receiver need power though, so plug into a battery bank. My Anker 10000 has both usb-c for the headset, and a usb-a if needed for anything else.
Great review! I got mine in the mail yesterday and can't wait to play with it more - the pancake lenses are amazing! Not sure how so many people were expecting better passthrough in this price range - decent low-light cameras are the holy grail and usually run over $1000 for the body alone for a decent sensor size 😅
Just got mine today and I honestly love it. I got a quest 2 last week with the Costco bundle deal to see if I was going to like it. I obviously did cause now I have the 3. A HUGE upside on the 3 vs the 2 is the much clearer picture. Text is easier to see and the blur I would notice on my 2 all of the time made me nauseas. No longer the case with the 3. That’s just me! That along with everything else that was improved is a huge plus.
One more thing to note, besides investing in a 3rd party head strap, I would also suggest investing in a third party facial interface. Not just the cushion, but the whole plastic insert the cushion goes on. I got an all in one kit made by AMVR on sale for $28. I think normal price is $35. Well worth it as the plastic interface piece has venting and flares out a bit more for a better seal and actually makes the FOV look better. The cushion that comes with it is miles better than the stock one.
That's completely false. If anything the rubber silicone alternatives Meta offer will slip and slide when sweety, unless you plan on sharing the headset a lot, I would stick with the original or wait to see what VR Covers come up with.
People are so stupid , just bcz it’s new doesn’t mean u have to praise it like it’s perfect and it has no downside. It has multiple downsides and we deserve to hear about them from the beginning not just later when the dust has settled , consoomerism mindset is cancer. You showed the fov wrong, the lens through feature was straight out of their advert and nothing like it really looks like. Why do u guys hype meta so much, u get money ?
I git my quest 3 today and i am really enjoying the MR experience. I am hoping to get the bobvr m3 whenever it is available hopefully soon the stock strap is better but still uncomfortable. Great review
Thanks for an honest review! I think I will wait a few generations because there just isn't enough content, and creating AAA-level VR games is very challenging. While it's not a secret how it's done, it's difficult to implement game mechanics properly due to the player's increased freedom of movement and input. Not to mention the optimization issues you encounter.
AAA games also take at least a few years to make. It doesn't happen overnight. The devs needed to see VR was actually selling before committing both time and money into a project. But after 7 years of continuous growth, more studios are getting involved. Better games are already being developed, we just have to wait for them to be released.
Was een grote stap van de Quest 1 naar de 3, heb hem vandaag binnen gekregen en zat eerst te kloten met het vervangen van de interface en de strap. De interface kwam moeilijk los waardoor ik bang was iets te beschadigen. Bij de elite-strap hadden ze de onderkant van die strap die over je hoofd loopt van siliconen moeten maken, nu wordt het alsnog ranzig. Ik vond de passthrough heel erg wennen, heb pianovision aangeschaft maar heb nog niet door hoe ik de piano ergens neer moet zetten. Het is lastiger dan de Quest 1 iig.
Coming from rift-S. The only downside (for now) is that running microsoft flight simulator, seem to run less efficient on quest 3 than on Rift S. I'm guessing due to USB - C. I'm hoping I can tweak it in a way that it works better than the rift-S. All other aspects are great.
@bartcoosemans6818 I am considering the same upgrade from rift s I know for Q3 on paper (almost?) everything is better than Rift S, but could you give me some highlight for what made the biggest wow for you? My current concerns are the Q3's headstrap, battery life (infinite on Rift S :D) and the PCVR over wifi (which RiftS doesn't have out of the box)
@@rize2137 Biggest wow is what you hear a lot... The image "crisp". The images are much better compared to the rift S. I got the elite strap so I cannot give my oppinion on the normal strap but the headset feels more comfortable to wear than the Rift S. Regarding the downsides, indeed as you mentioned, it is getting used to the battery life. Even when plugged in with the USB C into your PC (normal USB), it still drains the battery. I haven't tried a full gaming session to see how long it lasts, but coming from the Rift S, the battery is a downside. I have an external battery that I still have to try out on the quest but I need a longer usb C to usb C cable for that (and I woudln't be able to plug in both the battery and the pc since there is only one USB C). The second downside so far, is that MFS does'nt run as smooth it seems as mentioned due to the higher pixels, it takes more out of your PC (I got RTX 3080) however I'm currently using a cable to connect to the PC but the "VR desktop app" + using wifi 6 to connect wirelessly with your PC, would provide some tweaking oppertunities to get a better result. It would also mean I could charge up my Quest 3 with that external battery that I have... I have yet to test that out. This video was useful regarding MFS: ua-cam.com/video/UVznwf0Z9h4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=VRFlightSimGuy. All in all, I would recommend the headset still. If you have a very good PC and want to play PC games most of the time, you could look into the more expensive VR headsets though. I chose the quest 3 because I didn't wanted to upgrade my PC just yet and I wanted wireless to watch videos/series. From now on I am more inclined to purchase games in the Oculus store whereas until now I tried to purchase everything in Steam. That way, I'll have more wireless options to play. Most of the time I'll be playing at home though so it doesn't matter for me personally but a lot of games will not work on quest 3 standalone if you purchased them on PC (like beat saber).
@@rize2137 Idk if it was just me, but when I used the quest 2 on airlink the performance was alright ig, but the imagine quality wasn't really that good, and the image would randomly become pixelated. In general ur gonna notice the image compression even if u use a usb c. I want to buy a pcvr headset, but rn the consumer market only has two types of headsets. Standalone vr headsets, or enthusiast headsets (1000+$) I cant find a mid range pcvr other than maybe the hp reverb g2 which has shit controllers, so I dont want to buy it.
@nathie whats your view on the difference between Quest 3 and Rift CV1? would it be worth the purchase, i only PC Game with my Oculus CV1.. your thoughts?
The original strap does a lot more than what you seem to dismiss, too many vr content creators fail to make sense of why Meta uses these straps as default and allows replacements of them. Firstly, they are far more comfortable for non-active use, when laying down, resting, etc, the straps do not effect comfort when on pillows or resting on couches. No other VR headset is more comfortable than the Quest 2 and now 3 when resting, if you're more active, then the elite strap was design straight away as that said replacement. Obviously these items have updated as reviews have certainly affected decisions, but not replacement.
Is it still posible to down load games from the meta app without headset or does the headset need to be present to transfer games to oculus 3 Plz like so this can be seen
I had Quest 1, 2x Quest 2s and I always had 1 dead pixel on every single on of them. Most probably I will skip this Generation, and with the frequency they reveal every single new gen, which starts to look like the smarthpones' lifecycle, I think I will wait for Quest 4
Thank you so much for your honest review. I'm so glad there are at least a few content creators who don't praise everything META does. There must also be a critical side.
Getting mine today. PC gamer taking first step in VR - after finding Index and other PC VR headsets too expensive and quest 2 lacking in quality needed. Plus the first color step in MR sold it to me as well. Quest 3 seems, to me at least, the headset I was looking for in terms of price and quality . Looking forward to getting it in a few hours !
TRUE. A lot of people gave up on Quest 2 after 6 months, bored and lack of content. Yes, and now think why PCVR users have been enjoying VR for several years and have no intention of stopping. Standalone is good, but only a "gateway-drug" good. And No, standalone will never have PCVR-standard games or thousands of mods worth playing.
He talks like a salesman for Meta. Someone trying to upsell the product I may not want. I got the Quest 3, it's crossly overrated by these youtubers. It's an upgrade, but not much of an upgrade at all, pretty disappointed until they actually improve the resolution and pumping new exclusive software.
I will just say we will always have a delay in sound when using Bluetooth because the program can't predict the future to start feeding you the sound that hasn't happened yet
So the thing that bothers me is that the Reviewers said that the pass through is good enough to be able to see and text on your cellphone... well that is CERTAINLY NOT true at all in my case. And anything I hold up close to my face whether in VR or MR is a blurry mess. Almost like I am far sighted( which I'm not) are these patchable or were we lied to?
Lied to? You can clearly see legible text in multiple video reviews when they give the texting on a phone example. Are you playing in the correct lighting conditions? Pass through works better with more natural light.
@@eon5323 the recording of passthrough footage does not look the same as if you were looking through the lenses yourself. Lighting conditions are fine. IPD setting is fine. If i turn my phones brightness all the way down to compensate the exposure then things become visible i guess but nothing like what people were talking about or what is shown in recordings. tried it in a few different rooms with different lighting conditions and even outside. Does not make any sense
The quest 3 is definitely much clearer, however, I can still see the screen door effect. It still is not a replacement for the picture quality of a TV for movies.
sadly yes - but they are closing in every year more and more. There is a lot to expect for the future. The technology itself is in my opinion better than using a flat screen.
Hello, i just want to tell you that i bought a quest 3 but i have issues with the audio it sounds very bad in all games i tryed reseting but it didnt work
Does that wobbly effect happen for the user when doing the pass through when placing objects in front of you? Or is that just something we see from recordings?
I played on my Quest 3 for several hours yesterday and set it up for both standalone and PC gaming. I have the Bobovr m2 Pro headset for my Quest 2 and had seen on Reddit that a conversion kit was coming out so that I could use it on my Quest 3 but still can’t find it. It sounded like you had one. Do you have a link? So far I’m really enjoying the mixed reality.
Overall a very good review with an unnecessary click-bait title. Considering the short time the Meta 3 has been out it’s foolish to state that the cost is an issue for consumers. We won’t know that until after the holiday buying season.
all they gotta do is change the pass through cameras to at least 12-16 megapixels and then it should be clear. also add sensors on the top and bottom of the headset and sides for better overall tracking
I left the same comment xD I also prefer the comfort of the quest 1. They made this Q3 strap unbearable on purpose to sell their 'elite' strap. Good thing there are 3rd parties selling theirs cheaper. (the wrist straps were better on the Q1 too, what are these silly threads on the Q3 controllers? xD)
Hi mate, thanks for your review. You don't experience any noticeable SDE? I got mine yesterday and as soon as I turned it on and looked at the Meta logo I could see SDE, tiny squares like a mesh inside the blue logo, just wondering if it's only mine that for some reason is worse. Never noticed SDE in my Quest 2 for example, so I don't think I'm sensitive to that.
Thanks for the great review. Mine arrives tomorrow. I sold my Quest 2 a few months ago so I'm looking forward to playing my favorite games like Golf + and Eleven Table Tennis. I'm aware that it will take time for interested developers to upgrade some games and develop new games that will take advantage of the better resolution but I think it's worth it to be patient.
I want to know, remember how you could change the resolution on the quest 2 using sidequest. (if you had a computer we’ve all done this at least once) how long would the battery last if you put the quest 2 res on 3?
Thanks for this! Covers all the bases without any extraneous talking. My Quest 3 should arrive tomorrow. It will be an upgrade from my Oculus Rift S so, at first, I'll probably be doing more PCVR than standalone. But I'm looking forward to exploring the standalone abilities. I didn't get an upgraded head strap, figuring that third-party options will be available at launch or soon after that are better value. I did get the official PC Link cable but I'll see if it's even needed or if Air Link is good enough. Having it charge while playing would be nice, though.
13:19 yes Echo Vr is back on the quest 3 😭 i buyed the quest 2 because the great picture Echo Vr of it on the box now i feel more home alone no zero gravity sport anymore
Hi. I don’t know what you reviewers are talking about when it comes to the screen door effect. It is there and super obvious. My eyes aren’t even as good as they used to be and I noticed the second the logo came up during the boot up. And on everything else. I messed around with the IPD. Doesn’t seem to fix issue. Is there some trick?
just like all the others no word about the av1 codec ! Is that even compatible with the link ( no air link or VD but with the wired experienced in order to get the best clarity and less compression) ?
The FoV isn’t noticeable as it’s the first time I’ve heard. But basically moving straight from 2 to 3 (and having the 1) I think it’s like an iPhone and not worth getting every model. Apart from the colour pass through it’s enough to say everything is 15-20% more crispy. The quest 2/ is more than good enough and will continue to compete until the next quest iteration.
What are your thoughts on Quest 3? Worthy upgrade or overhyped?
Please can you link the bobo M3 strap
What are your thoughts on Quest 3? Worthy upgrade or overhyped?
CRINGE.
The gap between standalone, console and PC is closing. ???
Yeah, 10/10/23 was a day that will live in infamy.
NVidia, AMD, Intel all just said lets just STOP developing any new tech. Sad day for gaming :(
@@WilliamDavies-jk8yg likewise
Can I have a link to the headstrap
I just got it and have no clue what these reviewers are talking about regarding FOV on the quest 3, i still have a quest 2 and immeaditly noticed the difference in the lens size. Quest 3 is noticibly bigger, and when setting the facial interface closest to my face, i looked harder to tell when comparing the valve index, not the quest 2. Compared to quest 2, the fov is a noticeable bump and looks much less like looking through binoculars.
The thing with VR headsets, is that bone structure and skull structure do affect the perceptual experience of a VR headset; so does the individuals perceptual system itself. These variables can make VR headset experiences highly subjective.
Went back and forth between Quest 2 and 3 today and it was a huge difference in FOV for me.
As someone who where’s glasses the fov is worse with the 3 compared to the 2 but it’s cause it gives you more room and it’s not lens to lens anymore.
I think with the added cover as well as the bobo vr strap, he is a good deal further away from the lenses than he needs to be. If close to your face it's absolutely an improvement.
I saw some youtuber testing the q3 with 100º of fov and other being able to go up to 110😮 (horizontal). It really depends by you skull/face shape.
I had an oculus rift cv1 and now just got the quest 3. I can’t express how amazing the quest 3 feels in comparaison. So pumped about my purchase.
I still have the Rift 1 too, waiting for to delivery . Have a couple of puzzle games that im developing on the Rift atm to port over
You waited that long for an upgrade??? Respect, man. That difference must feel surreal.
@@budbutterson9577 it is not that, but i am more pc player than vr user, i only use my rift sometime, so my priority going to my computer, maybe switch and after i will invest in vr
vr is not bad, but it is just i really hate use it in summer and also after one hour it become to be hard to use it
@@vkobevk VR isn't for everyone, and I can respect that. I can guarantee that the quest 3 is better than the rift 1 in every single way, though.
@@budbutterson9577 i dont hate vr, but damn i hate use it in summer
also after 1 hour it become exhausted to use it
My issue with quest is it doesnt have enough AAA games... completely understand people can hook it up to a computer but not everyone has a powerful enough computer - the quest arguably is an entry level VR headset but most of the games seem to be incomplete, experiences, or poor quality - theres only a handful of decent games. But the same can be said for PSVR. Sadly it doesnt have the commitment to bring better games which is why Meta keep pushing alternative experiences.
Personally i love 3D movies and would love if they had a 3D movie store on the quest.
Bigscreen vr has a store of 3d movies and there app runs them well. Also people often host 3d movies on the social side of the app.
The mixed reality is what really sells me. So amazing to me and I probably would not buy it if it was just another VR headset. Hope Meta keeps expanding on it and adding more MR games and experiences. Thanks for the great review.
Well most experiences seem like tech demos and not full on games. You got time to wait.
Just keep in mind it's very early so it won't be perfect and fast movements will cause a lot of warping. Also you will need the right lighting conditions for it to not be grainy. It does seem very cool though.
@Killswitch1411 espire 2 has a passthrough mode. I know what you mean though.
You and me both!
You like the super grainy 240p image spliced together?
Such a well made and comprehensive review. Just got mine today and can’t wait to try it out!!
is it good? Oh and can you connect it to a pc?
@@vrfrenzy8451 For the price, Quest 2 is a better buy for sure.
I've not used it myself but yes you can use it with a PC either over wifi or with a chord@@vrfrenzy8451
This is how we Bingham baby, I watch every video of urs!! And know that Branden is a tech guy lol 🤣🤣
@@vrfrenzy8451it’s very good and has the opportunity to connect to pc, runs amazing by itself too
I had a dead pixel on my Quest 3 too. It was located in the right panel. DIRECTLY centered in the sweet spot. Returned the unit immediately.
You put tu out no the sun si not the fault of meta, is yours
My Quest 3 is very responsive compared to my Q2. It is not perfect by any means though and I'd say probably 5-10 years before we get really good mixed reality devices and software. This is still the dawn of a new era as digital and physical slowly merge 😊
meh give it 3 years
You've got no faith in Valve's Deckard?
Was the OLED panel not better?
@@karkir-joharkarntkristkark9507 deckard is the new steam console. Many people thought it was a VR headset but alas the index is still the best on the market for PCVR
@@karkir-joharkarntkristkark9507 It will probably take 5-10 years for deckard to launch.
I dont think the price is slowing it down honestly. I went to best buy today and they were sold out. There are 5 in decent vicinity to me. There was only one store close by with any left. I was at the one store bought online for pickup in store at the other store and had the employee there call to get them to put the one i ordered back then so they didn't sell out before my order processed and they could grab it. The other store had 9 left, but they were kind enough to grab it anyway and by the time i got over there they had sold out also
Great video I appreciate the complete honesty.
Lots of people are disappointed with the quality of passthrough including myself. Guess we got dupped when all the recording quality was way more clear than what you actually experience. Oh well I’m not to setback by it but some people “literally wanna cry.. 😅”
I bought the quest 2 and it was my first vr experience so of course it was amazing but sadly the novelty wore off rather quickly. Mainly due to tragic motion sickness. That stuff made me sick just thinking about wearing the headset. But I don’t think it helped that the headset was so top heavy and hot.
I can proudly say tho the quest 3 did not give me motion sickness nearly as bad as quest 2. The strap is ok but the headset itself is a huge improvement as far as comfort and I think that goes a long way in sickness experiences.
Overall it’s a nifty piece of tech and I’m a proud supporter of the continued development and evolution of the tech regardless of what company it’s coming from. Cheers
Nice to hear about the motion sickness. I've had a quest 1 and a quest 2 and always just end up getting bored and literally sick while playing most games, so I ended up selling them. Like you, even the thought of wearing one again makes me feel ill. I really don't think I'll ever enjoy full VR, but the MR really entices me to give it another try.
My tv has delay when using bluetooth headphones, but I fixed it by using an aptX bluetooth transmitter, then an aptX bluetooth receiver to plug the headphones into. Absolutely no lag. If the headphones already support aptX, then you just need the transmitter. The brand I bought was HomeSpot. Both transmitter and receiver need power though, so plug into a battery bank. My Anker 10000 has both usb-c for the headset, and a usb-a if needed for anything else.
For everyone having issues with the strap cutting into your ears, what worked for me is raising the left and right speakers up a bit. Issue gone.
Great review! I got mine in the mail yesterday and can't wait to play with it more - the pancake lenses are amazing! Not sure how so many people were expecting better passthrough in this price range - decent low-light cameras are the holy grail and usually run over $1000 for the body alone for a decent sensor size 😅
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Sadly the audio was a downgrade from Quest 2. The Q3 sounds more tinny. More treble & less bass 😑
This is hands down the best overall review of the headset I’ve seen. When people ask me about it- I’m sharing this video.
Got mine today, its a nice upgrade all round
Sadly the audio was a downgrade from Quest 2. The Quest 3 sounds more tinny. More treble & less bass 😑
Just got mine today and I honestly love it. I got a quest 2 last week with the Costco bundle deal to see if I was going to like it. I obviously did cause now I have the 3. A HUGE upside on the 3 vs the 2 is the much clearer picture. Text is easier to see and the blur I would notice on my 2 all of the time made me nauseas. No longer the case with the 3. That’s just me! That along with everything else that was improved is a huge plus.
One more thing to note, besides investing in a 3rd party head strap, I would also suggest investing in a third party facial interface. Not just the cushion, but the whole plastic insert the cushion goes on. I got an all in one kit made by AMVR on sale for $28. I think normal price is $35. Well worth it as the plastic interface piece has venting and flares out a bit more for a better seal and actually makes the FOV look better. The cushion that comes with it is miles better than the stock one.
I understand there is some better ventilation , did you have any fogging on the lenses? Thanks
Recommend for anyone using a vr headset, just get a rubbery face cover, because all these other ones built for "comfort" essentially become sweatbands
That's completely false. If anything the rubber silicone alternatives Meta offer will slip and slide when sweety, unless you plan on sharing the headset a lot, I would stick with the original or wait to see what VR Covers come up with.
agreed, the meta one for me atleast has to be put back on every 30 minutes or so as i take my headset off alot@@dtrjones
that’s what I was thinking
People are so stupid , just bcz it’s new doesn’t mean u have to praise it like it’s perfect and it has no downside. It has multiple downsides and we deserve to hear about them from the beginning not just later when the dust has settled , consoomerism mindset is cancer. You showed the fov wrong, the lens through feature was straight out of their advert and nothing like it really looks like. Why do u guys hype meta so much, u get money ?
12:35 I think in this comparison you accidentally swapped the video footage (right is Quest 3 Footage, left is Quest 2 Footage)
ordered myself one yesterday, it comes in about 2 days as of writing this, very excited.
by any chance did you get bored of it?,I want to get one but everyone says it’s bad and overhyped,thanks
I git my quest 3 today and i am really enjoying the MR experience. I am hoping to get the bobvr m3 whenever it is available hopefully soon the stock strap is better but still uncomfortable. Great review
Am i the only one who thought that, at least in that test, quest 2 had the better mic? You’d think meta would prioritize that.
If you get a dead pixel on the headset can you send it back? Or do you just have to live with it?
U can send it back, atleast where i live
Thanks for an honest review! I think I will wait a few generations because there just isn't enough content, and creating AAA-level VR games is very challenging. While it's not a secret how it's done, it's difficult to implement game mechanics properly due to the player's increased freedom of movement and input. Not to mention the optimization issues you encounter.
AAA games also take at least a few years to make. It doesn't happen overnight. The devs needed to see VR was actually selling before committing both time and money into a project. But after 7 years of continuous growth, more studios are getting involved. Better games are already being developed, we just have to wait for them to be released.
and this is why AAA games arent being made. If nobody supports the tech then devs wont invest their time in making games. Its a vicious cycle.
Was een grote stap van de Quest 1 naar de 3, heb hem vandaag binnen gekregen en zat eerst te kloten met het vervangen van de interface en de strap. De interface kwam moeilijk los waardoor ik bang was iets te beschadigen. Bij de elite-strap hadden ze de onderkant van die strap die over je hoofd loopt van siliconen moeten maken, nu wordt het alsnog ranzig.
Ik vond de passthrough heel erg wennen, heb pianovision aangeschaft maar heb nog niet door hoe ik de piano ergens neer moet zetten. Het is lastiger dan de Quest 1 iig.
I'm in California and I'm a VR content creator, today has been an amazing day in VR History, amazing UA-cam on fire tonight
Coming from rift-S. The only downside (for now) is that running microsoft flight simulator, seem to run less efficient on quest 3 than on Rift S. I'm guessing due to USB - C. I'm hoping I can tweak it in a way that it works better than the rift-S. All other aspects are great.
rift-s is 1280x1440 per eye. Quest 3 is 2064x2208 per eye. Quest 3 takes more from your graphics card/less efficient
@bartcoosemans6818 I am considering the same upgrade from rift s
I know for Q3 on paper (almost?) everything is better than Rift S, but could you give me some highlight for what made the biggest wow for you?
My current concerns are the Q3's headstrap, battery life (infinite on Rift S :D) and the PCVR over wifi (which RiftS doesn't have out of the box)
@@rize2137 Biggest wow is what you hear a lot... The image "crisp". The images are much better compared to the rift S. I got the elite strap so I cannot give my oppinion on the normal strap but the headset feels more comfortable to wear than the Rift S. Regarding the downsides, indeed as you mentioned, it is getting used to the battery life. Even when plugged in with the USB C into your PC (normal USB), it still drains the battery. I haven't tried a full gaming session to see how long it lasts, but coming from the Rift S, the battery is a downside. I have an external battery that I still have to try out on the quest but I need a longer usb C to usb C cable for that (and I woudln't be able to plug in both the battery and the pc since there is only one USB C). The second downside so far, is that MFS does'nt run as smooth it seems as mentioned due to the higher pixels, it takes more out of your PC (I got RTX 3080) however I'm currently using a cable to connect to the PC but the "VR desktop app" + using wifi 6 to connect wirelessly with your PC, would provide some tweaking oppertunities to get a better result. It would also mean I could charge up my Quest 3 with that external battery that I have... I have yet to test that out. This video was useful regarding MFS: ua-cam.com/video/UVznwf0Z9h4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=VRFlightSimGuy. All in all, I would recommend the headset still. If you have a very good PC and want to play PC games most of the time, you could look into the more expensive VR headsets though. I chose the quest 3 because I didn't wanted to upgrade my PC just yet and I wanted wireless to watch videos/series. From now on I am more inclined to purchase games in the Oculus store whereas until now I tried to purchase everything in Steam. That way, I'll have more wireless options to play. Most of the time I'll be playing at home though so it doesn't matter for me personally but a lot of games will not work on quest 3 standalone if you purchased them on PC (like beat saber).
@@rize2137 Idk if it was just me, but when I used the quest 2 on airlink the performance was alright ig, but the imagine quality wasn't really that good, and the image would randomly become pixelated. In general ur gonna notice the image compression even if u use a usb c. I want to buy a pcvr headset, but rn the consumer market only has two types of headsets. Standalone vr headsets, or enthusiast headsets (1000+$) I cant find a mid range pcvr other than maybe the hp reverb g2 which has shit controllers, so I dont want to buy it.
I got the quest 3 as my first ever be headset, and I really like it. Sure it was expensive, but I’m happy with its quality
@nathie whats your view on the difference between Quest 3 and Rift CV1? would it be worth the purchase, i only PC Game with my Oculus CV1.. your thoughts?
The original strap does a lot more than what you seem to dismiss, too many vr content creators fail to make sense of why Meta uses these straps as default and allows replacements of them. Firstly, they are far more comfortable for non-active use, when laying down, resting, etc, the straps do not effect comfort when on pillows or resting on couches. No other VR headset is more comfortable than the Quest 2 and now 3 when resting, if you're more active, then the elite strap was design straight away as that said replacement. Obviously these items have updated as reviews have certainly affected decisions, but not replacement.
No they use them cause its cheap
@@nolandderlugner1351 one variable in a multivariate.
@@nolandderlugner1351 its modular by design. This way you as a customer can pick and choose where you spend your $.
i couldn't stop looking at your room and thinking “wow this guy just get himself everything he wants” lol
Can you charge it while using it?
Quest 2 microphone is like 10 times better :P Btw far best review!
Can't find the bobovr M3 OR the M2 to M3 conversion kit. Are they out yet?
No they have yet to release
Beat aftermarket headset with battery ? Nord? Kiwi? Bobo?
Is it still posible to down load games from the meta app without headset or does the headset need to be present to transfer games to oculus 3
Plz like so this can be seen
Should i sell my quest 2 and psvr2 for a quest 3?
Honestly I think the hands behind or in front of things can be patched with the depth sensor
I had Quest 1, 2x Quest 2s and I always had 1 dead pixel on every single on of them. Most probably I will skip this Generation, and with the frequency they reveal every single new gen, which starts to look like the smarthpones' lifecycle, I think I will wait for Quest 4
WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT 4:34 . DUDE YOU CAN INVITE YOUR FRIENDS INTO YOUR ROOM LIKE BRO THATS SOOO COOOL
Thank you so much for your honest review. I'm so glad there are at least a few content creators who don't praise everything META does. There must also be a critical side.
Thank you!
@@nathie your welcome.
Also had dead pixel... but dont wanna wait another week to get it fixed. I can only see it in a black loading screen
so they can include a headphone jack but not a microSD card slot?
Would you be able to make a video on some of the best MR/Pass-through content to try out on Quest 3?
what about using the quest 3 for work ? 6-8 hours daily using virtual monitors.
Getting mine today. PC gamer taking first step in VR - after finding Index and other PC VR headsets too expensive and quest 2 lacking in quality needed. Plus the first color step in MR sold it to me as well. Quest 3 seems, to me at least, the headset I was looking for in terms of price and quality . Looking forward to getting it in a few hours !
Can u still play in the style of quest 2 (vr) and every other feature? Or does it not include any quest 2 features
TRUE. A lot of people gave up on Quest 2 after 6 months, bored and lack of content. Yes, and now think why PCVR users have been enjoying VR for several years and have no intention of stopping. Standalone is good, but only a "gateway-drug" good. And No, standalone will never have PCVR-standard games or thousands of mods worth playing.
He talks like a salesman for Meta. Someone trying to upsell the product I may not want.
I got the Quest 3, it's crossly overrated by these youtubers.
It's an upgrade, but not much of an upgrade at all, pretty disappointed until they actually improve the resolution and pumping new exclusive software.
What a sick bioshock display
Great review for a good headset. Can't wait to test mine.
bro it was posted 21 min ago and you made this comment 20 min ago this doesnt add up how did you watch the whole video
I will just say we will always have a delay in sound when using Bluetooth because the program can't predict the future to start feeding you the sound that hasn't happened yet
So the thing that bothers me is that the Reviewers said that the pass through is good enough to be able to see and text on your cellphone... well that is CERTAINLY NOT true at all in my case. And anything I hold up close to my face whether in VR or MR is a blurry mess. Almost like I am far sighted( which I'm not) are these patchable or were we lied to?
Did you adjust your IPD? I can read my cellphone just fine with the right IPD setting.
@@ES023 ....yes
Lied to? You can clearly see legible text in multiple video reviews when they give the texting on a phone example.
Are you playing in the correct lighting conditions? Pass through works better with more natural light.
I agree it is very hard to read the text on my phone. The warping around my hand is pretty extreme. It is doable, but not pleasant.
@@eon5323 the recording of passthrough footage does not look the same as if you were looking through the lenses yourself. Lighting conditions are fine. IPD setting is fine. If i turn my phones brightness all the way down to compensate the exposure then things become visible i guess but nothing like what people were talking about or what is shown in recordings. tried it in a few different rooms with different lighting conditions and even outside. Does not make any sense
My son wants this for christmas and i can afford it....neither of us have experienced much VR....should i get it?
The quest 3 is definitely much clearer, however, I can still see the screen door effect. It still is not a replacement for the picture quality of a TV for movies.
sadly yes - but they are closing in every year more and more. There is a lot to expect for the future. The technology itself is in my opinion better than using a flat screen.
I have a question nathie how do you combine me with all vr headsets into one in real life?
Hello, i just want to tell you that i bought a quest 3 but i have issues with the audio it sounds very bad in all games i tryed reseting but it didnt work
Does that wobbly effect happen for the user when doing the pass through when placing objects in front of you? Or is that just something we see from recordings?
Also did you try the air link?
Will the Xbox app only let you play your favourite games or can you play ones you don't like much too?
I played on my Quest 3 for several hours yesterday and set it up for both standalone and PC gaming. I have the Bobovr m2 Pro headset for my Quest 2 and had seen on Reddit that a conversion kit was coming out so that I could use it on my Quest 3 but still can’t find it. It sounded like you had one. Do you have a link? So far I’m really enjoying the mixed reality.
Cameras on the front should have been concaved to avoid damage
Overall a very good review with an unnecessary click-bait title. Considering the short time the Meta 3 has been out it’s foolish to state that the cost is an issue for consumers. We won’t know that until after the holiday buying season.
Im only 2 minutes into the video, and I already NEED one.
all they gotta do is change the pass through cameras to at least 12-16 megapixels and then it should be clear. also add sensors on the top and bottom of the headset and sides for better overall tracking
How about playing more than 1-1/2 hour between charge... can you use something to play continuously?
If im not upgrading my pc i could buy it or should i?
Great video. Much info. Thanks!
Where can I buy a good headset in the uk ?
The current strap really hurts my forehead. I can from quest 1 and that was way more comfortable.
I left the same comment xD I also prefer the comfort of the quest 1. They made this Q3 strap unbearable on purpose to sell their 'elite' strap. Good thing there are 3rd parties selling theirs cheaper. (the wrist straps were better on the Q1 too, what are these silly threads on the Q3 controllers? xD)
Kung Fury is great. Love the thor Cameo lmfao
Nathie, how is the FOV of the Quest 3 compared to the old Quest 1 ? greetings from another Dutch man.
Is the bobo headset compatible with the quest 3 or do you need a conversion kit?
In Passthrough mode, if you invite your friends to your quest home, will they see VR surrounding or Passthrough surrounding?
I bought it yesterday could be a real game changer!
Its a good upgrade from my Q2
I love the “automatic” play space creation. This is great news!
Hi mate, thanks for your review. You don't experience any noticeable SDE? I got mine yesterday and as soon as I turned it on and looked at the Meta logo I could see SDE, tiny squares like a mesh inside the blue logo, just wondering if it's only mine that for some reason is worse. Never noticed SDE in my Quest 2 for example, so I don't think I'm sensitive to that.
Looks like ur eye ipd isn't correct i never really saw it if i dont want
hi sir ,
i love watching movies, 3d sbs movies. can we enjoy 3d movies on quest 3? i have xreal air 2 but i couldnt enjoy full screen movies on it.
Thanks for the great review. Mine arrives tomorrow. I sold my Quest 2 a few months ago so I'm looking forward to playing my favorite games like Golf + and Eleven Table Tennis. I'm aware that it will take time for interested developers to upgrade some games and develop new games that will take advantage of the better resolution but I think it's worth it to be patient.
Cartoon VR should be a category
It's fine for watching movies?
I want to know, remember how you could change the resolution on the quest 2 using sidequest. (if you had a computer we’ve all done this at least once) how long would the battery last if you put the quest 2 res on 3?
Can anyone tell me what app it is at 4:39 in which we can see our friends in our real living room?
Thanks for this! Covers all the bases without any extraneous talking. My Quest 3 should arrive tomorrow. It will be an upgrade from my Oculus Rift S so, at first, I'll probably be doing more PCVR than standalone. But I'm looking forward to exploring the standalone abilities. I didn't get an upgraded head strap, figuring that third-party options will be available at launch or soon after that are better value. I did get the official PC Link cable but I'll see if it's even needed or if Air Link is good enough. Having it charge while playing would be nice, though.
What gb did you get and was it worth purchasing said gb
Why did they put the headphone jack on the right side when almost all headphones have the cable coming out of the left side?
Amazing piece of tech for main stream populations at an affordable price. Very easy to use for everyone.
13:19 yes Echo Vr is back on the quest 3 😭
i buyed the quest 2 because the great picture Echo Vr of it on the box
now i feel more home alone no zero gravity sport anymore
Thanks for the video. Where did you get the halo strap for the Quest 3? My Quest 3 will be delivered in 2 days. 😁
it has yet to come out 🥲
Do you not get the PC USB connection cable .This was very expensive with the Q2.
Hi. I don’t know what you reviewers are talking about when it comes to the screen door effect. It is there and super obvious. My eyes aren’t even as good as they used to be and I noticed the second the logo came up during the boot up. And on everything else.
I messed around with the IPD. Doesn’t seem to fix issue. Is there some trick?
How did you get your hands on a BoboVR conversion kit for Quest 3?! I need one so badly!
just like all the others no word about the av1 codec !
Is that even compatible with the link ( no air link or VD but with the wired experienced in order to get the best clarity and less compression) ?
You also need a nvidia 4000 series or amd equivalent card to use av1
It’s exspensive when you add it all up for quest 3 charging dock elite head strap rip of
The FoV isn’t noticeable as it’s the first time I’ve heard.
But basically moving straight from 2 to 3 (and having the 1) I think it’s like an iPhone and not worth getting every model. Apart from the colour pass through it’s enough to say everything is 15-20% more crispy. The quest 2/ is more than good enough and will continue to compete until the next quest iteration.
I see hand occlusion coming in a year or two and then I think MR will truly reach its peak potential
How is Meta quest 3 with pc gaming, such as Half Life Alyx?
How will I be able to get the quest 3 bobovr because I got both m1 and m2 head straps for quest 2
You shouldve added a battery life amount for PCVR too
13:45
The best, review so far, I really love the editing and de tone of the video, c: and really useful, :D