The Leica Q2 DEBATE... MYTH or REALITY?
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i hate it......that im so poor. hahaha
Don't worry. It just takes time. I just bought my first Leica (a Q2) at 50. Keep grinding!
@@leafsfan71 I was about to say add "at the moment" Dominico. "I'm so poor at the moment". You never know how your life will be in the future
I prefer the Sony A1, Nikon Z8, Canon R5 over the Leica for that price range.
But the Leica is like an Porsche,
so you pay for the Porsche😂😂😂
I can afford one, but I fail to see how it’s better than a similarly priced setup from Nikon, Canon, Sony.
I'm so poor at this right moment! 😅😭😭
I never wanted to spend the money on the Q2, although I love the style. I found a used one and jumped in, thinking I could resell it. I hate to say it, but there is something magical about the images that I can't seem to get enough of. Each shot surprises me . . .I don't know exactly what it is. It is a different image than I can get with my Fujis or Sonys at the same focal length.
so if you were to shoot 2 exact photos, same focal length you would be able to discern the photos apart?
dont own a leica, but from what I see from youtube videos, you are right, there is a unique 3D look to it?
@@user-sf5bt8eb4y I haven't done the experiment but I can tell of my own general shots, which ones were Leica shots. It's not a 3D effect per se, but a contrasty image with a unique black. I
Total nonsense, like hifi acoustics.
@@drs-Rigo-ReusIt’s not nonsense but not what the hype suggests. Leica has a look, as does Canon, Sony, etc. Some people resonate with the Leica look, others don’t.
So it’s real, but not magic. I shoot Leica, I prefer Canon colour.
Leica is about two things for me: simplicity and [relatively] unique quality.
Mostly I use Leica lenses on a Nikon Z camera. Manual focus slows me down, and this is good. Recently I was looking at some of my photo sessions from 2017, about 300-500 images per hour. Now it's closer to 50-100. Yet the number of 'keepers' has increased because there is more intention.
Zoom lenses, and most prime lenses today are about 'clinical perfection'. There are several Leica options at key focal lengths, offering different image presentation. First, the 'Leica Look' includes the reduced contrast to go with the reduced sharpness away from the focal plane. We are trained to study 'bokeh balls', but the real benefit is the look of the near out-of-focus region, when it is both softer and still discernible. This is illustrated with food photography, if the food on the fork is sharp while the rest is out of focus yet completely identifiable. Most high-quality primes do well with this, and they also tend to cost $2k or more. Leica lenses are smaller and the lens designers put special care into this aspect of the image.
While Leica lenses are expensive, many used ones get into the $1000-3000 price range. While that is still a lot, it's comparable to what photographers pay for typical 'pro' lenses.
Leica is expensive because most of it is handmade.. i think at that price range other brand could do better tho🤷♂️..
I'm waiting/saving for the Q3. Rumoured to be announced in June/July. I have a Sony A7IV now which I love. However, I want a daily carry that I always have. The size is great and it's such a capable camera. My plan is to have longer lenses for the Sony and then use the Q3 for street and wide photos.
Yes super curious too about Q3
Sony RX1R M3 would be the best news
They rolled out a campaign already. Asking us what Leica camera we put in our bags. It’s coming in end of May. 6000euro price range
The Q4 will be with a 35mm
Q3 is out tomorrow
Good to see a Joey H collab:) he definitely convinced me to get my Ghost Q2. Pierre just FYI, even though it’s not quite the same thing you can use touch and drag focus on the Q2. That’s what I’ve used instead of a joystick
Here’s my view, grab your A7RIII/IV/V and the sony 50mm/40 F2.5. Then you have a razor sharp high quality lens, small setup, high resolution, great AF. Then make a pic profile close to Leica’s and you’re there much cheaper
Sony A7Rii + Sony 35/2.8 ZA is the sweet spot for this sort of shooting, IMHO. Zeiss brings a certain image quality too. The A7Rii AF is relatively close to Leica Q2. The massive upside is you can toss a proper manual prime on there for peak range focus experience (Voigtlander 21/.35 rules here, especially since you can super35 it too). Perfect street setup, and fits in a 3L crossbody with room to spare.
I like the idea of the Q2 because I like my GRIII. However, I wonder if I will notice more the full frame f1.7 benefits or the size and weight benefits of the Ricoh.
Me too. The pocketability why I bought it over the X100V. I do miss a viewfinder on the GRIII though
Great video fellas. I've used various brands, models, formats both film and digital. Last year I went mad bought the Q2 to scratch my lifelong Leica itch, sadly I killed it 14 days later. In those 14 days I was almost totally hooked love the size, feel ,Image quality, simplicity of use, wasn't overly impressed with the noise at 3200 plus, etc etc. So while the Q2 was away for repairs I bought a used slightly damaged Q. Wow at 24mp this things is simply stunning. Now my Q2 is back I also adore it and ache to use it every day, however for anyone out there itching for a Q2/3 but is struggling to justify the cost I'd advise grab yourself a Q just cover the mic ports to avoid dust getting to the sensor and you'll be happy imho.
Did it two years ago. Best camera decision ever. Sometimes it has to be my A7RM3 with that bunch of lenses. But strolling around with the Q (Type 116) shows me the beauty of the world, special scenes and unusual views. The Q is an emotion.
@@thomasgoetze perfectly put mate.
I just ordered my Q2 today. I’ve shot both Nikon and Fuji. I had both an x-t3 and x100f. I sold all my Fuji gear. Excited to start shooting with the q2.
I love my Q2. I have the sl2s for everything else, but the Q2 for me is the perfect everyday companion. Tried the X100V for a couple of months and it never seemed to let me get my kind of shot. I’m no pro. But I always seem to get the shot with the Q2.
So many reasons for that:
1 I have it with me more often.
2 let’s call it a Ferrari vs Ford and therefore I want to use it more and have improved with it
3 it has a better lens.
Not a big fan of the Q series. Picked up a few over time to try them and as soon as I take a look in the EVF, it’s for me just as big brands hybrids. No point in picking up a Q if it’s only to use it with autofocus. This is why I prefer the rangefinder of the M series. Much more enjoyable experience. Still use Fuji x100f or v but I take snapshots with them, I concentrate much less when I take a picture with those than when I use my Leica Ms.
Almost any camera available on the market now can be a Pro camera. Just have to use it within the constraints it’s built for.
After Pentax, Nikon, Canon and Fujifilm i’ve bought a Q2 and found joy in photography again
How to kidnap Pierre: “I have a Leica Q2 in my van come in”
I made an alternative street photography account on Instagram and stated all my pictures were taken by the Q2 (they were from sony a9) and I got a ton more followers in a week wtf
So enjoyable listening to your passionate observations on the Q2. Dialogue throws up all sorts of comments which might have been missed otherwise. Wonderful. Thank you for sharing. You describe the rationale behind using a Leica so beautifully. It's all about the 'art of photography', after all. Purity is key !
First and foremost, if you buy this camera because it inspires you to be creative then it's worth the money! That aside, I would never buy it because it does nothing for me personally. I know for a fact you can get the same image out of any modern digital camera in post. With that being said I don't think people truly by this camera because of the image/colors. It is 100% a brand thing and also the idea of having a fixed point and shoot so that removes any and all debate over your gear pack as you have only one option with this camera. It's totally not my cup of coffee but I completely understand the want and desire to shoot with one!
I had a Leica CL with 4 lenses and a Fuji X100V. I sold them both and got a Q2. I love it.
Lively and interesting review! I love the format and engagement.
I’m a longtime Nikon shooter and a more recent Fuji shooter. But then I picked up a Leica Q2 and now fully understand why Leica has such a loyal following. It’s an amazing camera. The IQ from the lens continues to wow me and the handling of the camera makes it a joy to use. The high resolution allows for cropping. I’m totally sold on the brand.
Hi Pierre, what a great little Camera the Leica Q2 is. I like the feature that gives you Frames you can change, to 35mm, 50mm and 75mm, really nice feature. Love the photo of the church in the snow, looks like the photos in the magazines, great colours. Love the winding road photo and the glass doors photo. Being a fashion accessory do you have to wear clothes and accessories to match the Camera. Great video, thank you, Pierre and Joey.
I have it. It is an amazing camera. 1.7 28MM lens and 47 megapixels….Leica glass….I am a Leica M shooter. I have the M10R, M10 Monochrome, M9 and M6….this camera is awesome
I shoot Nikon mirrorless for my main camera, and have shot Fuji as a second option since 2012. Until about a month ago. I now have the Q2 and doubt that I could ever go back! The build quality, image quality, and colors are top notch, in my opinion! I also have shot with the Q2 Monochrom. I will likely soon own both 😁
That’s a really cool camera, I see it as reward rather than a necessity.
I've never used a Leica camera and I'm not planning to any time soon.... Also people/youtuber are weird, they'll complain all day about the fact that some 2000$ can't do X or Y and yet they would happily pay 3 times more for a leica camera that has even more restrictions under the pretext that it forces them to be more creative, or it has really good colors... Seriously, that sounds like a dumb way to waste money if you ask me; but everyone is free to spend his/her money the way he/her wants
Same as billionaires paying to go to a farm to “disconnect”
If the Q2 was circa £3k then I'd consider getting one
Great video Pierre! Can I know which month was this in Iceland and which month do you recommend to visit?
might be getting a Q3 along with my next iceland trip
Bring lots of cash and your long underwear, regardless of the season, that place is cold.
the blacks on leica cameras always impress me
I love the look and feel of the Leica. Though, the Fuji X100V just as much - even at a fraction of the price. I would be scared to carry that expensive a camera around!
You can move the focus point easily by tapping the screen or if you’re using the EVF you can also move the focus point even if the screen is off while using EVF. There’s no need to ask for a joystick. It can do what you want it’s just sometimes you think it can’t do but actually it can. Use it longer and really own one and you’ll learn more about it.
Honestly, if I had $6k to spend, I'd definitely go for it. Otherwise, everything he said about Leica being an everyday camera and enabling him to shoot more I'm able to do with my Ricoh GR iii... Yes, it doesn't have the same flexibility with 24 megapixels, but even when I had my Sony a7R IV, I rarely ever cropped my photos which is why I got rid of it for just the a7IV.
If you have the money, definitely go for it. Otherwise, use that money to travel. (Except to places where I'm at. I don't want to see any of you there loool)
Beim Kälter Temperatur & trotzdem Farben bringen können..............................!
Type this during third day with Leica Q3 aaaand, my Canon R5 is still in my bag 😢 Q3 is perfect!
This camera looks very exciting, but I like cameras with interchangeable lenses, but yes, this camera is more for everyday photography
I will be getting Q3, I am waiting for its availability.
Little editing get the same shots with my Canon T50
I dont even think the quality is worth the price. But I still want one. I have a budget though.
I don't think the brand really matters cuz i shoot a 2012 sony a77 with a handicap lens and can still get good photos
What happened to it’s not the gear that matters? Is that soooo 2022 or something?
To all non leica owners:
Why I use a leica?
Bec I m not as clever as you to be able to multi skill.
Leica allows me to focus on one thing only aka compose the shot.
The rest is being taken care of by Leica.
Period.
at the end we all justify our expensive purchases. Realistically, a sony a7ii/iii or Canon R8/R6 are good enough to be an everyday carry camera. But we camera enthusiasts like to own the tech more than the benefits that come with each different camera body. So if you have money then by all means get the Leica, the X100V, the R3, the A1. Because it’s more to own the tech and have it and not need it then to need it and not have it. By the way, not an advice for people who are in debt!
I have seen many videos about Leicas and I am still convinced they are not worth it. I would suggest to get a Fujifilm for a third of the price of a Leica and go out and take pictures instead of buying “fashion statements” and luxury items. I find absurd people buying Gucci bags or other high fashion items (Porsches, Ferraris…) and from what I see people who buy Leicas are not that different.
The examples you give show you no nothing about what you talk about.
@@Jabber-ig3iw why?
Literally a cheap Fujifilm camera with 23mm can take those same picture on Iceland. Also fuji colors are amazing
Don’t forget status. Some just buy it for that. To make them feel superior
Can’t beat a x100v for everyday carry. Hands down the best fixed lens camera period
wish they'd make a pancake 23mm f/2 for the x-mount too with the same formula
@@ShawnSwander yeh that will be awesome
Where can I get a cheese camera?
Love my Q2 and…..my D850 to do everything highly creative.
Would this replace your phone's camera?!
i dont know about shooting in a holocaust memorial...
Looks good!
this coincidence, all content creators and influenzers got the reporter in the nearly same moment xD
Not sure about "no brainer" but certainly no hassle. All the controls you need, nothing that gets between you and the photo. My only concern about the Q2 is it's tendency to blow out the highlights, and the low light performance at ISO above 1600. I've seen countless examples and they are super grainy. I want to jump on one of these because the Q2 used is $1K less than the Q3, and the Q3 is unavailable and probably will be for at least a year or two. But $5K for a sort of Ok camera (Leica or not) is a bit much.
that's sick!
Love the idea of reporter edition. branding is striped away and overall looks very slick. Also i started doing photography because of you! You gave me a huge inspiration. Ty for your content ❤
Thank you
Q2 minimalism is awesome.
Lol I’ve been looking at this camera for the last few days
If the Q or Q2 was €300,- no one would discuss it. Don’t believe the hype, it’s just a camera and limited at that.
You’ve never shot Leica.
Hi Pierre, would you like to come to Iran? you can find many beautiful places to shoot :)
The Leica looks like it tries to be a fashion accessoir.... while it has like a weird minimalistic design. For example Apple does a great job in minimalistic design which is actually timeless and good. The Leicas just have this tryhard weird look
Why did you kept taking pictures when the man is talking to you, disrespect!
No RAW in smaller files that’s not smart!
Only JPEG😒
Nice!
fuji x one hundred vee not five :)
Q2 is blau
So I guess if you’re poor then you’ll never take amazing photos guys because only Leica can take good photos with amazing color science. 😢 sad life for the poor folks like us
Thousands dollors of camera and puting preset colors kn photo . Lol ..than just buy fuji it has color simulation so you dont have to edit😊
What debate? 😂😂😂
I had reporter about 1 month. I dont like it. Not good in hands, 28mm is not good, leicas colours start make me feel sick fast🤢.. like too dark, like poor dynamicrange.. Now back Canon🫶💪
Leica q3 is great but way over priced and overhyped. And yes I own one.
I adore my Q2
"Oh the Leica colors" ... goes and changes the colors in every photo.
Leben Wir Gesundheitlich oder Schlafend können haben bitteschön....................?
Oh man, Kleidungsstücke brauchen auch Farben..............
It's not Fuji x100Five, it is V (maybe, i think)
V is Roman numeral for 5 …
I had the Q2 and without doubt its a beautiful camera and takes great images, BUT. At almost 5k in the UK its a lot to justify for a fixed lens. Form factor is brilliant but I needed more value as it would be my only camera. As a walkabout its great but it lacks versatility, so I had to sell it and I bought the Sony a7r IV. The Sony is like using a computer and has no soul but the variety of lenses and its IQ make it much better value. I wish I could justify both.
Is it just me or does it look like a toy camera
I tried the Q2 at a Leica flagship store. I was really not impressed. Focusing is slow and imprecise. I'd be unable to shoot most of the things that I need to shoot with it. In most respects, it felt like using a highly outdated camera from 20 or 30 years ago. While there was nothing that you could do with it that you couldn't do with a far less expensive camera, like an A7C, there was far more that you couldn't do with it that you could do with a higher end body, with more flexibility and control and lower expense. Worse, they are priced as Veblen goods - they are status symbols which have increased demand as price increases. Leicas are pretty, and look nice on a shelf. If you want to get the shot, a Sony, Canon, Nikon, or Fuji is a much better choice.
Live in a van but be brainwashed to buy a Leica and already feeling sophisticated…hahahaha
Love that you're watching and are here. Quick suggestion would be to check why we were in a van in Iceland ❤️
😊😮😮
Are they actors?😂
basically is just paying for the brand name.. if you can afford it and you like the camera body/design and holding a leica make you feel better. then why not.
But in term of specs n what the camera can do.. most of the cheaper gear can do better. So it really depends what you want...
for sure don't get Leica for specs... the AF is frustrating sometimes as a Sony / Canon shooter haha
Wünsche ich es Euch Gesundheitlich Erwachsen werden können bitteschön Betrachten Wertigkeit für Menschheit an der Arbeit macht süchtig Farben & Erleuchtung bringen können haben bitteschön
please i need a phone can you give me one❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Second :)
He said it right... Leica is a fashion statement. It's a Gucci bag and appeals to the same ego hunger. Buy yourself some alligator shoes and you'll get the same dopamine ego boost for a lot less money.
You ever try to shoot a rangefinder?
@@andrewgardelle516 Regularly, yes. All film, however. I still haven't found a digital rangefinder that I'm happy with.
That would be true if it wasn’t also an excellent camera. Just because some people buy something as a fashion accessory doesn’t mean it’s devoid of merit. A Ferrari may be a fashion item to some people who just want to flex, but that doesn’t stop it also being a fantastic car for people who enjoy driving. Lumping everyone in together is a sign of a challenged intellect.
@@Jabber-ig3iw Going for the personal insult would an actual sign of what you are suggesting. 😂
An excellent camera? Sure. Is it five times the camera compared to others? Would you bet everything you have that you could pick out ten prints from a Leica out of a pool of a hundred photos from the same photographer?
The camera is not worth that much money. Deception is for fools
The lens, probably not. Many of them have poor MTF performance, or good character. The shooting experience though is something very different no other systems can provide. I can see myself getting a M body for film in future, but probably not the digital ones. Way overpriced.
Snobs like Leica...period...
When I was looking for another camera, I picked up the Fuji, X100v, Sony’s and Nikon mirrorless, etc. But they all felt cheap. I have the original Q. No joystick but I love touch and shoot. The SL2 S is also amazing. @john_abernathy_