Why Was Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna Called "The Governess"?

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  • @einezcrespo2107
    @einezcrespo2107 3 місяці тому +14

    Thanks for the video Jon! It is debated who was the most beautiful of the sisters as some historians say it was Maria. 😉 But Tatiana's elegance along with her aristocratic beauty made her striking. One time all the sisters thought Baroness Buxhoveden's jewels did go well with her gown and Tatiana went to get her broaches to lend to her. If she wasn't a Grand Duchess I think she would've been a nurse or a teacher.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for your thoughtful comment and for sharing your insights on the sisters' beauty and kindness.

    • @Cavan-md5qc
      @Cavan-md5qc 3 місяці тому +4

      Thank you also, indeed quite a beautiful girl !! It seems inside AND out. Agreed it's very difficult to say which sister was the most beautiful as they were all lovely!! I truly wish we could have seen them into adulthood they would have made the world a better place. Bless them

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 3 місяці тому +3

      These 4 sisters deserve to be remembered.

    • @einezcrespo2107
      @einezcrespo2107 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Cavan-md5qc They would've been wonderful women had their destinies been different.

    • @roses-of-the-romanovs
      @roses-of-the-romanovs Місяць тому

      Pretty much all who knew the Romanovs said Tatiana, so historically it wasn't really debated :) And honestly I think historians have more important work to do than try to figure out the most beautiful Romanov sister.

  • @trishphillips-johnson2500
    @trishphillips-johnson2500 3 місяці тому +7

    I am loving this series on the Russian Royal family. To me, the girls are frozen in time. They never had the opportunity to marry and have children. Truly sad. Thank you for another fantastic historical video.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      So glad you're enjoying the series on the Russian Royals! Your support means everything Trish

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 3 місяці тому

      I prefer learning of the grand duchesses then their idiot parents who got them all killed.

  • @catzenhouse
    @catzenhouse 3 місяці тому +5

    (At 4:57, Grand Duchess Olga is shown sitting on steps, not Tatiana.) I will always grieve me how these beautiful children could be murdered and so horrendously. Tatiana had a heart of gold and cared so deeply about those around her. She reminds me of Audrey Hepburn, especially after reading "Dutch Girl" and all Ms. Hepburn suffered as a teenager during WWII. Stoic, strong and, yet so sympathetic to others. I am currently reading her diary. She kept herself busy despite the small circle of friends and close family. Her love for her family and her compassion shines through. Thank you for this lovely video.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      According to the image you mentioned. The title translated from Russian is Grand Duchess Tatiana at the Convent of Saints Cosmas and Damian, Crimea. There is certainly a likeness to Olga, but I can only go with what I have. Thanks for pointing it out and for enjoying the video.

    • @jimmiles1315
      @jimmiles1315 2 місяці тому +1

      @@HistoryRoadshow I totally understand what you have stated but, that is Olga not Tatiana on the steps. Check out the hair style, the rounder face, the earrings and the larger waist.

    • @roses-of-the-romanovs
      @roses-of-the-romanovs Місяць тому

      @@jimmiles1315 Hairstyle doesn't prove it, unless we have a date. Tatiana had the same hairstyle sometime in 1914 and on, neither does earrings.

    • @roses-of-the-romanovs
      @roses-of-the-romanovs Місяць тому

      @@HistoryRoadshow Yes, trust us pls xd That is definitely Olga, no doubt about it. The eyes slant down and the forehead is wide, and it just looks like Olga too.

  • @Terry-hm4bs
    @Terry-hm4bs 3 місяці тому +2

    Tatiana was always my favorite. During her and her family's imprisonment, she and her family had shown grace under fire. Thank you for this wonderfully elegant video! May she and her family rest in peace.❤️🌹

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video about Tatiana and her family. They truly were remarkable individuals.

  • @TheLadyAnt1
    @TheLadyAnt1 3 місяці тому +3

    She's always been my favourite of all the children.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for watching and sharing a sentiment about your favourite Romanov.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HistoryRoadshowI definitely consider her the great beauty of the family.

  • @helpinyerdasellavon
    @helpinyerdasellavon 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you so much for this beautiful video on Tatiana Romanov. Top quality work. Cheers 💖👍🏻

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      Your kind words mean a lot, thank you Marie for watching and appreciating the content!

  • @HonestyandTruth-re7db
    @HonestyandTruth-re7db 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you Jon, much appreciated video.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words, they mean a lot to me.

    • @HonestyandTruth-re7db
      @HonestyandTruth-re7db 3 місяці тому +1

      @@HistoryRoadshow The Romanov Duchesses were such lovely, innocent ladies and their story is heart-breaking but fascinating.

  • @DuchessTatianapage
    @DuchessTatianapage 29 днів тому

    Thank you thank you THANK YOU to share and talk about my adored and lovely Saint Tatiana

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  29 днів тому

      My pleasure, I'm really pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching

  • @theresashadwell9060
    @theresashadwell9060 3 місяці тому +8

    So very sad the whole thing but so very fascinating they were indeed great beauties caring, responsible, and good so looking forward to little Maria. Thank you Jon for these insights into this royal family. 🌹

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      It's a tragic but captivating story indeed. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!

  • @maryannbernal
    @maryannbernal 3 місяці тому +1

    Love learning new stuff. Great episode.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      Your support means a lot Mary Ann! I appreciate your positive feedback.

  • @Seekmore7326
    @Seekmore7326 3 місяці тому +2

    Very nice video on Tatiana! Such a tragic end to this family.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for watching and for your kind words!

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HistoryRoadshowAlexandera protecting a rapist helped destroy the russian empire and her own family.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 3 місяці тому +1

      I hope Tatiana and Dimitri found their happiness on the other side.

  • @coreywelch1601
    @coreywelch1601 3 місяці тому +1

    Your voice is like a welcomed friend. Thank you for temporarily bringing back to life those whose existence still has many lessons to teach us. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      Your appreciation means a lot to me. I'm grateful for your support!

  • @СвпетарГајтан
    @СвпетарГајтан 3 місяці тому +3

    Несуђена српска краљица.
    Анђели с тобом,Татјана!
    Као и свим другим члановима твоје свете породице.

  • @stephaniex90
    @stephaniex90 3 місяці тому +6

    The grandduchesses and the tsarevich should have been left alone 😢

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      I appreciate your perspective on this historical topic.

    • @carterbentonjr399
      @carterbentonjr399 3 місяці тому +1

      I wished the Czar and Czarina sent their children to Finland.
      Then they would've survived the Bolshevists.

  • @MichelleBruce-lo4oc
    @MichelleBruce-lo4oc 3 місяці тому +2

    Hi Jon awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. Have a great day see you next video 😊

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video and that you and Benjamin are doing well! Your support means a lot to me.

  • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
    @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 3 місяці тому +2

    She was the most mature of the grand duchesses, I guess, more mature than her older sister Olga, certainly!

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for sharing your observation about the grand duchesses!

  • @patrickhair2808
    @patrickhair2808 Місяць тому +1

    Love this video. They were all beautiful. Russians and Germans should never fight each other. They are the same family with different language, food, and music. But they are brothers and sisters. It is evil that tricks them into fighting each other.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words! It’s true that many European royal families, including those in Russia and Germany, were closely related through marriage and shared ancestry. The idea of them as brothers and sisters really emphasizes how tragic it is when conflicts arise between nations with such deep connections.

    • @patrickhair2808
      @patrickhair2808 Місяць тому

      @@HistoryRoadshow True ! And while it's fashionable to equate royalty with evil, good also infiltrates. God can send a good soul to an evil mother and father and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So they weren't all bad.

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 3 місяці тому +1

    To be continued...
    For Maria.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      I appreciate your engagement. Stay tuned for the continuation!

  • @theresalaux5655
    @theresalaux5655 3 місяці тому +4

    Yes she did look like her mother! Thanks Jon😂

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +3

      I'm glad you noticed that resemblance too! 😉

  • @meeeka
    @meeeka 2 місяці тому +2

    The girls were not popular bride choices because of the wide knowledge of Alexei's hemophilia.
    Witness how poor Ena, another of Victoria's great granddaughters was basically tortured by the Spanish Royal Family, from fear that she was contaminated with it. And, when her sons were so afflicted, she was basically hounded from the family. Lesser houses were "happy" for the girls to marry in but in reality, they weren't as welcome as possible.

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 2 місяці тому

      People didn't know Alexei had Haemophilia until he was older. It was hidden from most people. The girls were heavily sought after, but they weren't pushed on marriage, and Nicholas wasn't either. They were the daughters of the richest man alive at the time. Also, many nobles and royals took an interest in them. Carol of Romania unofficially proposed to Maria. The Romanian royals wanted to intermarry with the Romanovs but initially wanted Olga as a bride. The noble man Louis Mount batten (nephew of Alexandra) also showed an interest in marrying Maria. The Serbian royals also took interest in marrying with them, and Tatiana was the main one sought for that match. Of course, nothing was official because the girls and Nicholas weren't too pushed on marriage at the time. They had to be unofficially proposed to and for Nicholas and the girls to agree to it before being made official. Other Romanov Royals (the branch known for being disloyal to the main branch) also proposed that Olga marry one of their sons. Nicholas rejected all proposals, and the girls didn't want to be separated. They were highly sought after. They just kept putting the idea of marriages off. No doubt if the girls did marry and have sons with the condition, they would be blamed by in laws. But most people were still willing to marry Queen Victoria's descendants knowing the potential risks. They were too high status to not be an attractive bride. Eugenia was not near as high rank as the Romanov girls. We also know that only one of the girls carried haemophilia, so if they were married off three would have had healthy children, and even the one carrying Haemophila could have produced healthy kids by chance.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  2 місяці тому

      It's truly heartbreaking to see how historical circumstances affected the lives of these royal figures.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for sharing such detailed insights about the Romanov family history!

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@jamiemohan2049 I'm sure Alexei's condition would have been known about in the royal houses of Europe though. Many of them had dealt with it themselves.

    • @meeeka
      @meeeka 2 місяці тому

      Plus as a Russian Grand Duchess, there were Romanov House rules that demanded respecting higher royal preferences.

  • @elainepaterson5310
    @elainepaterson5310 3 місяці тому

    What a beautiful girl. The awful fate of these lovely children still has the power to move, even now.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this video. It's important to remember and honour these children.

  • @meeeka
    @meeeka 2 місяці тому

    What I find so strange about these girls is that generations of Russian Grand Duchesses were TRAINED that they would leave Russia to marry and they seemed to lean in to it.
    Of course, they were often disappointed, witness the example of the wife of Prince Alfred, son of Victoria. By marrying into the British RF, and the second son, she thought as a grand duchess, she would take second place only after Victoria at court, forgetting about the Princess of Wales! Victoria had to dictate the order at court and sort it out. Alexandra and Ella would have both known about the familial difficulty.

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  Місяць тому

      You bring up a fascinating point! Russian Grand Duchesses were indeed often raised with the expectation that they would marry into foreign royal families. The complexities and disappointments of these marriages, like the one you mentioned with Prince Alfred’s wife, often led to difficult adjustments. Alexandra and Ella, with their close ties to the British and Russian royal families, would have been well aware of these challenges and the intricate court dynamics that came with them.

  • @cd3694
    @cd3694 3 місяці тому +1

    She looks nothing like Alexandra

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому +1

      It's interesting how people can have different perceptions!

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 2 місяці тому +2

      She was tall and slender. The height is the only thing similar to Alexandra. but you could also say she got it from Nicholas's family even though he himself wasn't tall. She had Nicholas's nose, and her eye shape is far more Romanov. In my opinion, only Anastasia resembled Alexandra and her family. The other four looked more Romanov but in different ways. If you look at them, they all have their fathers nose.

    • @roses-of-the-romanovs
      @roses-of-the-romanovs Місяць тому

      @@jamiemohan2049 They had quite different noses, as evidenced in their profile shots. Olga's straight and short, similar but not the same as Anastasia, Maria's flat and droopy, Tatiana's broken. Thankfully none inherited Alix's hook nose :)

    • @roses-of-the-romanovs
      @roses-of-the-romanovs Місяць тому

      I think she looked a lot like Marie of Hesse (Maria Alexandrovna)

  • @dancingdingo
    @dancingdingo 3 місяці тому

    Wasn't that a name of a cheesy soap opera in the US? 😂😜

    • @HistoryRoadshow
      @HistoryRoadshow  3 місяці тому

      It sure does sound like a soap opera name, doesn't it?