Objectively Incorrect Kingdom Hearts Character Tier List

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  • Опубліковано 23 січ 2025
  • [SPOILERS] for everything, including the most recent Kingdom Hearts 3 Re:Mind trailer. As I work on something of a bit more substance, here's my late entry to this trend, in which every sentence begins with "Listen..." and ends with "bro!" Seriously, it's a decent drinking game. Sorry if this is a bit louder than normal, been toying with a different editing software. Don't get ur undergarments of choice in a twist and/or tangle if I put someone in the wrong spot, this is objectively incorrect after all.
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    Here's the tier list I used by @spookiyu:
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    Music used (in order):
    "Laughter and Merriment" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "The Afternoon Streets" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
    "Lazy Afternoons" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 124

  • @innerlightproductions4987
    @innerlightproductions4987 5 років тому +223

    Just remember: He wasn’t that bad until he started murdering people.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +41

      Look, a little bit of murtaugh never hurt anybody...

    • @bradiec6561
      @bradiec6561 3 роки тому +1

      @@RegularPat hey there just a question who do you think the master of masters SHOULd be story wise

  • @phoenixgemini42
    @phoenixgemini42 4 роки тому +214

    "I forgot Naminé"
    Seems on theme with her

  • @QuiteDan
    @QuiteDan 5 років тому +111

    My tier list is based on how often a character says "darkness."
    Also Belle is S tier. They need to nerf that elbow jab.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +30

      Damn, I should've gone by those rules, I could've justified having Ansem SoD in S tier

  • @TheRoomforImprovement
    @TheRoomforImprovement 4 роки тому +109

    I bet the MoM is someone we truly didn’t expect... Like Demyx
    Or Eeyore.

    • @rumham3070
      @rumham3070 3 роки тому +1

      Demyx is expected. There's 1000s of people who've suspected Demyx.

    • @Nhblubird
      @Nhblubird 2 роки тому +3

      Pumbaa, FROM THE LION KING!

    • @brutallyhonestpikachu8250
      @brutallyhonestpikachu8250 2 роки тому +1

      naw demyx got to be the nobody of prompto from ff15

  • @Nicole-uv7to
    @Nicole-uv7to 5 років тому +112

    Hot take: Vanitas is a high B tier for me because he's a ruthless edgelord.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +66

      Lmao honestly tru. I wish him and Larxene shared more screen time and had an evil-off. Like Master Xehanort, yeah, he's evil. But Vanitas and Larxene are M E A N

    • @grantgarbour
      @grantgarbour 4 роки тому +14

      Watching vanitas and larxene just be dicks together would be so entertaining lol

    • @IIxIxIv
      @IIxIxIv 4 роки тому +14

      Vanitas is fun to have as an enemy while you can also do silly stuff with him. Probably the best side villain tbh

    • @niktri8312
      @niktri8312 3 роки тому +12

      Let's be honest with ourselves here.
      Vanitas is an S Rank because the moment Sully yeets him out of existence is the pinnacle of human civilization

  • @chronicguardian9684
    @chronicguardian9684 4 роки тому +49

    "Are we done with CoM?"
    While the girl who the whole game is about saving sits still in the roster...

  • @Charlie-um6kn
    @Charlie-um6kn 5 років тому +146

    I didn't realize how much I cared about half these characters until you put them in low tiers. Thanks I guess...?

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +24

      That's what I'm here for! Haaaappy holidays

  • @buffruhdy
    @buffruhdy 3 роки тому +42

    Kairi just needs a win. Give her a goddamn reason to win without sora holding her hand all the time. Then give her a character arc. She’s the damsel in distress, even when she’s the warrior who’s supposed to be doing the saving. She could be so much more tbh

    • @SmokeyEdits
      @SmokeyEdits 3 роки тому +3

      Hell, I half expected her to have [more of] an arc in KH3. While all of the games have bits and pieces of arcs for each of the three (Sora, Kairi, Riku) KH1 felt very Sora-centric and KH2 felt Riku-centric, but KH3 just kinda went "yeah, uh, I guess Kairi is here lol oops". I, for one, was a little disappointed.

    • @starvoltnexus3139
      @starvoltnexus3139 2 роки тому +2

      Let her save Sora have Yozora be the Riku to her Sora with Sora being their Kairi

  • @tobyjack1238
    @tobyjack1238 4 роки тому +66

    Why people like Xemnas demonstrated by one scene:
    Xemnas: “Ever the rogue pawn. Knocked from the board so early in the game. Utterly useless and forgotten.”
    Axel: “Are you kidding? Do you know how popular I am? Sorry boss, no one axes Axel. Got it memorized?”
    Xemnas: “Is this supposed to be a keyblade? Or is it some sort of joke?

    • @guillermobaldracco1090
      @guillermobaldracco1090 4 роки тому +23

      Also people forget he actually feels. He used to hang with Aqua's armor and talk to it cause he missed her since well he's part Terra, and he was looking for Ven too of course. From the two parts of researcher Terranort he's definitely the one that shows the most feelings

    • @lunareclipsed5071
      @lunareclipsed5071 3 роки тому +22

      @@guillermobaldracco1090 yes people often forget that the entire reason he sent the Castle Oblivion team there (other than to have them all killed) was to have them search for Ven's body. Of course he was probably doing that subconsciously but it stands to reason that the small bit of Terra inside him deeply desired to know what happened to his friends

    • @starvoltnexus3139
      @starvoltnexus3139 2 роки тому +2

      @@guillermobaldracco1090 I think he’s only interested in talking to the armor so he can find Ven so they can get a 13th darkness. And that’s it he’s more Xehanort than anything else. And they basically gave up because given how they attempted to kidnap sora and then used Xion because they needed someone similar to him specifically

  • @alexstrand2440
    @alexstrand2440 4 роки тому +9

    I really enjoy hearing your thoughts about the characters. There’s not a discussion that I’ve seen that goes in depth like this to certain characters like the org members.

  • @Darkest_angel13
    @Darkest_angel13 5 років тому +67

    Your joe voice is so on point it's scary

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +19

      lmao thanks, I think by default it's the most accurate voice I attempt here. Naturally, it's the only non-KH one

    • @Kalernor
      @Kalernor 4 роки тому +10

      @@RegularPat That's only until the "The Emperor's New Groove" world appears and Kronk becomes canon

  • @GNOtaku13
    @GNOtaku13 5 років тому +43

    I feel the exact same way about the UX characters, its very difficult to get attached to them without voice acting and having to deal those ugly cutscenes that pop up every few months.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +24

      Yeah y'know what like just gimme Back Cover 2: The Backest Cover, and it's all the scenes with original UX characters but voiced and with 3D models.

  • @yeetusvanitas9800
    @yeetusvanitas9800 5 років тому +28

    Vanitas being liquid snake is probably the best comparison of all time. (And despite my name coming from him, I agree, he isn’t that great)
    Also, Pence. Chubby detective kid with and interest in the paranormal, who also wolfs down yakisoba (in the manga, at least): literally me. Unforgivable.
    JK, this was fantastic, and even though I know it wasn’t one of your bigger videos, I wouldn’t call it low effort. Keep at it, you’re good at this. Congrats on the big 1 hundo!

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +5

      Hahaha thanks YV. Y'know what I forgot to bring up about Pence: there's that scene in KH2 where he complains about having to go shopping with Olette. Like relax, Pence. She's way out of your league, you should be honored.

  • @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime
    @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime 3 роки тому +13

    I like KH2 Sora with how snarky he is in that game and while he’s a bit of an idiot he still acts smarter than in DDD.

  • @Steran
    @Steran 5 років тому +17

    Thanks for uploading this there was nothing to watch and i can't fall asleep

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +7

      Most people might take offense to being used as sleeping aid, but not I.

    • @austinjames007
      @austinjames007 3 роки тому

      Honestly bro, your voice is just ridiculously calming to me. I passed out to this video last night, and I'm back to finish the rest of the list

  • @c0mplex_Ale
    @c0mplex_Ale 3 роки тому +5

    Damn, it’s kinda sad seeing Sora that low, but it was a super fun video to watch regardless, I definitely where you come from in your placements. And I guess I’m a boring Deviantart Axel fan as well, he’s easily in my top 3 characters in the series.

  • @puckie643
    @puckie643 3 роки тому +8

    I spent 29 minutes of my life wondering which character was the one with the

  • @FinalFantasyIXIIII
    @FinalFantasyIXIIII 5 років тому +12

    Hey, I'm excitedly waiting for this 100 subscriber youtuber to upload content.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +5

      To quote a rat from Dream Drop Distance, "How could I be so blind?"

  • @jorgegodinez522
    @jorgegodinez522 4 роки тому +10

    "Oh I forgot Namine, fuck"
    You wouldn't be the first

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  4 роки тому +3

      Yeah I was just getting into character, that's all!

  • @encyclopediaespx1128
    @encyclopediaespx1128 4 роки тому +27

    Hot Take: Aqua always phones her lines in.

    • @samseymour7004
      @samseymour7004 3 роки тому +12

      I don’t think that’s very hot. I love her but her performance is so lifeless

    • @owenbridgers
      @owenbridgers 10 місяців тому

      @@samseymour7004and thats why I personally like it

  • @starvoltnexus3139
    @starvoltnexus3139 2 роки тому +5

    Sora is a high teir for being a comfort Character

  • @tyke2829
    @tyke2829 4 роки тому +15

    Everyone likes Roxas, a character that was introduced and didn’t get much screen time in the second game, the most, but don’t like the full length game he starred inXD

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 3 роки тому +8

    Maybe it's just because I have a giant soft spot for the KH girls, and because I've been fond of Kairi since I played KH1 as kid, but I'd rank the girls at least 1 tier higher each.
    Kairi should at least be C tier for restoring Sora to his human form in KH1, and because like Sora she's kind of a linchpin character who connects several other characters to one another (e.g. Sora, Riku, Aqua, Naminé, Xion, etc). And I'm glad the ReMind DLC has done her some favors! Though let's be real, if she was given as much spunk as she had in KH1 throughout the rest of the series and if she was in "Dream Drop Distance" she could probably rank even higher.

  • @daniellemurnett2534
    @daniellemurnett2534 4 роки тому +10

    3:55 People severely underestimate young people's ability to grow up with old games. Kingdom Hearts is definitely in "early childhood videogame" territory for me, but I am as we speak not even 17. Not all people who grew up with KH are in their mid-20s. Anyways good video like the rest of them.

    • @eliz0101
      @eliz0101 3 роки тому +1

      Yeahh I'm not even 16,played kh for the first time in 2019 and it's honestly one of my favorite series of all tima

  • @sleepysalandit6270
    @sleepysalandit6270 3 роки тому +2

    Vexen is the guy who’d get shoved into lockers constantly, with Larxene probs doing the shoving.

  • @bimbles939
    @bimbles939 3 роки тому +2

    You've gotta remember, Aqua/Ven/Terra saw Sora etc when they were kids, the time difference is probably like 10 years..

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia 4 роки тому +3

    Lexaeus is my favorite Organization member and his ranking on this list fills me with profound sadness! He's a cool guy who just wanted to look out for his friends in the Organization (mainly Zexion), turns into a Super Saiyan when you fight him, bitch slaps Roxas half to death in order to teach him about self-defense, and even gives Riku some good advice about using the darkness rather than fearing it... even if it's for a manipulative purpose. That's a lot of fun stuff!
    I just think it's a shame that he doesn't really get time to do a lot since he's in Riku's story which is a bit light on cutscenes compared to Sora's, and so he's swept away pretty quickly since Sora's story already covered the deaths of four other members. He doesn't get a really memorable sequence like Zexion mindfucking Riku, but I think he was somewhat interesting for what we see of him. It's just a shame later games never really follow up on that, particularly KH3 which didn't even give him voice acting!

  • @JordanGordon8
    @JordanGordon8 4 роки тому +5

    Axel and Xiggy in S tier and Roxas in at least A tier???? This legit is legit!

  • @rootedcorgi7742
    @rootedcorgi7742 4 роки тому +4

    I'VE GOT IT chain of memories is a slight lie Sora went to castle oblivion so he could lose the angst because he knew that he was getting to the age of angst

  • @joshuagonzalez1468
    @joshuagonzalez1468 4 роки тому +7

    The most interesting thing about Kairi is that she died? Which time?

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  4 роки тому +8

      Good point. Uhhhh I guess the most recent time lmao. That one was pretty gnarly

  • @MrTakenName
    @MrTakenName 5 років тому +7

    I mean, I am excited for the 100 sub special, but all you do is taunt me 👏🏼
    Excellent tier list, missing the hat though

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  5 років тому +1

      Thank you Wave, hat at 23:48

    • @MrTakenName
      @MrTakenName 5 років тому +1

      @@RegularPat wrong one

  • @truesoprano2152
    @truesoprano2152 3 роки тому +3

    "This might be controversial"
    I agree with most of your tierlist. I'd put Xion and Aqua higher and Sora lower but Axel and Xigbar are my favorites!

  • @gunnarschlichting9886
    @gunnarschlichting9886 Рік тому

    Holy shit at the end it got so unhinged, it was great. "Then again he has a fedora, maybe he's below the dead girl." Those were some great takes lol.

  • @themacca277
    @themacca277 2 роки тому +4

    Just gonna say it, Olette has a more established personality than Kairi

  • @nathanwins3330
    @nathanwins3330 4 роки тому +1

    That Patrick Warburton was scary good

  • @socialistbcrumb
    @socialistbcrumb 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this a year late and witnessing the Geneva Convention-violating placement of Chirithy over Young Xehanort

  • @TheSquatCrafters
    @TheSquatCrafters 4 роки тому

    Loving the content Pat! Sincerely, your newest subscriber. : D

  • @stephenfox5709
    @stephenfox5709 4 роки тому +3

    Okay I stopped at 17:47 to say fuck me, I couldn't wait until end, what are you doing!! Look at C tier!! Look at it, soooo many characters stuck in C tier. You don't give a shite about them 😂
    I am upset but it's your list down the end of the day, so I take with a grain of salt. I am enjoying it.
    I have spent the last couple days going through all your videos since subscribing. I don't really leave comments so this me saying I love the content and can't wait to see more.

  • @Zarzuelaisking747
    @Zarzuelaisking747 3 роки тому

    Great video! However I was waiting on the Tron Legacy world and Hype to fight Rinzler who already had a Vanitas-esq style, still agree with the rest of what you said about KH3D

  • @TJF588
    @TJF588 2 роки тому

    Xaldin deserves a bit higher due to his shenanigans at the Beast's castle, not just in KH2 but also Days; Roxas bouncing off of his perspectives was one of the more compelling Disney world throughlines for me, though I do more readily remember Roxas's mulling over a ruler's role, comparing the Beast and Xemnas, which iirc isn't as much involved with Xaldin.

  • @topkarat
    @topkarat 2 роки тому +1

    That Xaldin bit gave me cancer

  • @thegreatestpurpleone2884
    @thegreatestpurpleone2884 4 роки тому +5

    Xion in B. I can respect that. She deserves to be three tiers above S. But opinions are valid

  • @xxShinyLove
    @xxShinyLove Рік тому

    im years late but i gotta say, on the topic of foretellers possibly being related/distant relatives of existing characters, i think that'd only be funny if it was just one or two of them, but definitely not all of them. like if it's all of them that's boring. predictable. unimaginative. but if it's, say just one of them? that would be peak humor to me

  • @autumn_west
    @autumn_west 4 роки тому +1

    you might have answered this elsewhere but since we're post re:mind and mom, what do you think of christopher lloyd as the big bad baldinort? seeing as you briefly touched on the vas for him

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  4 роки тому +6

      I think it's Nimoy>Lloyd>Hauer

    • @autumn_west
      @autumn_west 4 роки тому

      @@RegularPat nice, I agree!

  • @ryanbogucki9062
    @ryanbogucki9062 3 роки тому +1

    u should make a disney character tier list from the kh series

  • @guapoguapman
    @guapoguapman 2 роки тому

    “The most exciting thing that’s happened to her is that she died”, pat out here spitting flames 😂

  • @TJF588
    @TJF588 2 роки тому

    "That will be my 1,000-subscriber special."
    [glances at 2023 count of 37.6K]

  • @lighteverbright1468
    @lighteverbright1468 3 роки тому

    Hottest take of the year, Vanitas is the KH Liquid Snake, love it

  • @Wolf_Dominic
    @Wolf_Dominic Рік тому

    Personally, I think that Donald and Goofy at the very least should have been included. Considering how close they are with Sora.

  • @Soynereh
    @Soynereh 2 роки тому

    I quite enjoy Vexen when he is being vein about how smart and talented he is. I dont know if you can work that persinalitty among the good guys. I hope so.

  • @6darren6
    @6darren6 4 роки тому

    Swap xigbar and replica riku and this is golden

  • @DeBeOtaku
    @DeBeOtaku 4 роки тому

    3:55 cries in over 30

  • @yearsofDeath-vv7nl
    @yearsofDeath-vv7nl 3 роки тому

    The Xaldin impression killed me! I am dead! haha

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  3 роки тому

      was it because it was so bad lmao

    • @yearsofDeath-vv7nl
      @yearsofDeath-vv7nl 3 роки тому

      @@RegularPat No! Really good actually. I always wanted to do voice acting personally. Just throwing mutton chops in there randomly made me spit my drink.

  • @starvoltnexus3139
    @starvoltnexus3139 2 роки тому

    Why do none of these character tiers have Yensid are they afraid The Internet will flood with him being a lower tier than Kairi or Xion?

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  2 роки тому +3

      it's just original KH characters

    • @starvoltnexus3139
      @starvoltnexus3139 2 роки тому

      @@RegularPat I know but I found one with the main Disney characters and actually all the Disney characters at least and he still wasn’t there

  • @jonathancorrea4677
    @jonathancorrea4677 3 роки тому +1

    Axel at number one is 100% yes

  • @recino2
    @recino2 3 роки тому +1

    Let me make your tier list more correct: Luxord needs to be higher. The justification for that is because I love him personally.
    Aqua should be A tier. She's the group mom, she cleans up the shit everyone else causes, and she's had 2 cool boss fights.
    The rest of the list is fine, I guess.

  • @RatchyRaccoon
    @RatchyRaccoon 3 роки тому

    Bold opinion time, I hope we never see MoM’s face. Keep him a mystery until the very end

  • @SushieSash
    @SushieSash 6 днів тому

    I thought Brain was a good character actually. Not too sure why out of all the hats they went for a fedora though.

  • @akinamation
    @akinamation 3 роки тому

    Hot take: Vanitas BBS is on the edge of B tier, Vanitas KH3 is E tier. Goodness I couldn't stand him in KH3.
    Not only was his voice annoying but his character motivation and personality was just so.. thrown out the window tbh? He didn't feel like the BBS Vanitas at all, which would be okay if, you know, he would have had time in those ten years to change individually... And his change wasn't really good either :/

  • @OneRandomVictory
    @OneRandomVictory 4 роки тому +7

    Vexen >>>> Zexion
    Zexion I find to be the most boring org member of them all. He doesn’t have any interesting lines, he is the same archetype as Vexen without any of the zany dialogue and quirks Vexen has, his voice acting is dull, and he’s barely more intimidating than Demyx. Vexen also created the replicas which had a huge impact on the story and his redemption was done way better.

    • @RegularPat
      @RegularPat  4 роки тому +6

      Honestly you make good points. I guess I just always thought Zexion's element and fighting style was more interesting but as a character there isn't a ton going on

  • @davidhaddley1886
    @davidhaddley1886 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah you’re totally incorrect Kairi should be lower cause she has as much screen time and plot relevance as Lexuas.

  • @AlyssaJ14
    @AlyssaJ14 4 роки тому

    Your opinions are your own and they're valid, but... Placing Namine, Saix/Isa, and Ansem the Wise/DiZ in the same tier is a CRIME. Actually placing them all in that specific tier (neutrality hell) is kind of a crime. Way to undersell Namine's various contributions in the story (she's QUITE important in CoM, 2, and Re:Coded, and is criminally underused in 3 but even there she does contribute and isn't just a cameo for cameo's sake) as well as Saix's whole arc regarding Axel in 3 (which by the way was building up and alluded to through BBS, DDD, and Days). You don't have to love him but there IS more to him than "calm and collected except when he's not".

  • @goldenwitherphoenix1389
    @goldenwitherphoenix1389 4 роки тому +1

    If I may infer, I love all the key kids of Union X. If I'm to rank them, I'd say Skuld is a solid B, Ephemera is a mid C and Blain is a low B. And including Ven and Laurium aka Marluxia, I say Marluxia and Lauriam together is a high C and Ventus for me is top of the board. Look, I'm a Ventus fan don't judge. Lol.

    • @phoenixkh93
      @phoenixkh93 4 роки тому

      whoah hold up his name is supposed to be Blain and not Brain? was it a mistranslation? I always thought Brain was a stupid freaking name

    • @goldenwitherphoenix1389
      @goldenwitherphoenix1389 4 роки тому +1

      @@phoenixkh93 honestly, I have no clue which is the mistranslation. But I alternate between the 2 names.

  • @fishwaterhazarddelta2434
    @fishwaterhazarddelta2434 3 місяці тому

    The kh community can smite me for this, but I genuinely like 85% agree with this placement. 😅 I guess I’m just an objectively wrong kh fan

  • @nattylight9494
    @nattylight9494 3 роки тому

    Bruh the pence shit had me weak 😂

  • @brentsteven4944
    @brentsteven4944 4 роки тому

    only thing i would change is i would put aqua in A

  • @metalmonstamikettt
    @metalmonstamikettt 2 роки тому

    MoM is Demyx for sure

  • @AdamWestTheDrunk
    @AdamWestTheDrunk 4 роки тому

    Who's worse: Kairi or sakura?

  • @TonalDesigns
    @TonalDesigns 4 роки тому

    Xehanort and Aqua's lines? Fam did you LISTEN to Lispy Magee Ventus in KH3? How are we supposed to take him seriously

  • @nonameboyintreble3576
    @nonameboyintreble3576 4 роки тому

    AAAAAAAAA WHY DO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHIIIIINGGG?????

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 3 роки тому

    I'm not mad that Sora is not in A-tier, I'm just disappointed. (I'm kidding, mostly).

  • @businesscatlimbo
    @businesscatlimbo 4 роки тому

    I simp for Larxene

  • @Greenninjam7152
    @Greenninjam7152 4 роки тому

    This feels like me

  • @takeshiedwards6523
    @takeshiedwards6523 4 роки тому

    young xehanort was cool

  • @seanmoynihan9194
    @seanmoynihan9194 3 роки тому

    You prolly won’t see this comment but I want 15k or 20k subscriber special to be the reveal of the hair over the eye

  • @Malisteen
    @Malisteen 3 роки тому +1

    I hated that terra was the guardian. A dumb, pointless twist that robbed Ansem SoD of his most defining aesthetic feature. The guardian should gave been ansem/xehanort's heartless, as kh1 implied. Could have had the same scene just flipped, and made the triple nort and remind data ansem fights dramatically cooler.

  • @user-bw4jm1bv1i
    @user-bw4jm1bv1i 3 роки тому

    Goofy = SSSS++++ tier

  • @BarnabusBarbarossa
    @BarnabusBarbarossa 4 роки тому +5

    I kinda can't stand Riku as of Dream Drop Distance... or Sora... or Axel... honestly, that game kinda made me hate every character.

  • @jacksonhill7552
    @jacksonhill7552 3 роки тому

    S tier: Kairi
    A tier and below: everyone ells, Kairi is best girl

  • @luiChe
    @luiChe Рік тому

    I hate ign. Bbbbuuuutttt, they are right about too much water. I dont care about it being a tropical region. It sucks. No other pre switch region was based on uts namesake. Kanto and johto dont look like Kanto and johto. I dont care if it honors the actual region. Thats makes it respectable not fun