Why Thorfinn Stands Out From Other Protagonists

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 1,9 тис.

  • @CaptainMack
    @CaptainMack  Рік тому +360

    Thanks for watching, like the video if you liked it. Hit up the Patreon if you wanna support ya boi. If you want more, watch my Chainsaw Man analysis! ua-cam.com/video/5bifn15-BnI/v-deo.html

    • @SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK
      @SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK Рік тому +5

      This was a great video and really fun too, I feel the need to tell you about D. Gray-Man just a manga that deserves some love and attention

    • @jakecaswell7364
      @jakecaswell7364 Рік тому +2

      OKAY, since l like how you did a great job with this video, I am going to let that statement at 7:28 slide, still excellent work.

    • @JordanSmith-og3yj
      @JordanSmith-og3yj Рік тому +2

      ​@@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK 9

    • @JordanSmith-og3yj
      @JordanSmith-og3yj Рік тому +1

      0

    • @milton_millyrok
      @milton_millyrok Рік тому +1

      Video idea. I think it would be interesting to compare the ideologies of Canute and Erin from AOT

  • @murphythestoryteller6378
    @murphythestoryteller6378 Рік тому +979

    Awesome detail I picked up in the Thors vs Askeladd duel.
    At the start of the duel, Askeladd says (and I'm paraphrasing here) : "I swear on the name of my father Olaf that I will respect the rules of this duel"
    We know in hindsight that he did not intend to follow through on that.
    But then at the end, when he agrees to let the other people go, after witnessing Thors's true character he says: "I swear on my ancestor Aurelius that I will let them leave".
    And there he was truthful.
    Such an early giveaway of Askeladd's true heritage and his feelings towards each side. He would swear on his father's name knowing that he does not intend to keep that promise, in a way spitting on the name of his father, but he will always be truthful and honorable when invoking the name of Aurelius and his roman heritage.
    And there are so many details like that sprinkled in the early chapters that it's beautiful to go back to.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +148

      Yeah it's a really cool detail! I had something about it in my script at one point but I ended up cutting it

    • @alexvaughan1013
      @alexvaughan1013 Рік тому +16

      And I wonder if Askeladd took on the duel in the first place not for the money, but to see if Thors was worthy of leading his band and becoming the Artorius he's looking for. He did ask Thors to lead his band after seeing what kind of man he was.

    • @BaguetteDeMal
      @BaguetteDeMal Рік тому +5

      @@alexvaughan1013I see the duel as a way to enter his true plan of saving Wales since when he helped the Jomsvikings he basically got a free pass into the invasion force and was able to get close to the prince due to it putting his plans into motion

  • @stuckerfan2563
    @stuckerfan2563 Рік тому +1119

    Thorfinn's speech and saying that he has no enemies is still one of my most favorite moments in all of manga

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +86

      It's so good, I love it

    • @BrightHero_Ultimato
      @BrightHero_Ultimato Рік тому +4

      Gonna happen in anime next week

    • @stuckerfan2563
      @stuckerfan2563 Рік тому +2

      @@BrightHero_Ultimato i know.
      Can't wait for it

    • @wizsword.
      @wizsword. Рік тому +5

      @@BrightHero_Ultimato and it was perfect!

    • @stuckerfan2563
      @stuckerfan2563 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@wizsword. just watched it and it was amazing

  • @kebbobebop
    @kebbobebop Рік тому +436

    People who complain about thorfinn not being a murderous person in the second season are just missing the entire point.

    • @sensufr219
      @sensufr219 7 місяців тому +26

      Like they didn’t even watch the entire first season

    • @grimm-gh2wr
      @grimm-gh2wr 7 місяців тому +29

      The exact same people didn't understand the ending of season 1 when the sword fell and he had lost his reason to live and fight

    • @Xaforn
      @Xaforn 7 місяців тому +3

      Exactly! There’s so much depth!

    • @BrandosArena
      @BrandosArena 6 місяців тому +4

      I have a buddy that I had a debate with he said that exact thing and called the second season boring when I said it was the best character development in anime I’ve seen but guess it’s the same debate of two sides of a coin see opposite sides of the world

    • @ducksoop.x
      @ducksoop.x 5 місяців тому +5

      Shounen-bros at their finest, they just watch for the colors and the action.

  • @jvever4904
    @jvever4904 Рік тому +164

    Despite how sensationalized it is, Vinland Saga is actually one of the more accurate takes on Vikings in modern media. It helps that Makoto Yukimura actually visited Iceland on a trip for research before starting the manga.

  • @mrsticky005
    @mrsticky005 Рік тому +2351

    The concept of the "true warrior" is explained by Leif Erikson when he's telling stories of his adventure to Vinland to kid Thorfinn and the other Icelander kids.
    According to Leif not all warriors fight with weapons on the battlefield.
    Leif for example is a warrior who "fights" the sea. The kids of course
    just think Leif is a "coward" who is afraid of war and even kid Thorfinn
    who normally loves listening to Leif's stories of adventure looks at Leif with doubt.
    There is however a character who does respect Leif and that is of course Thors.
    While the kids may see Leif as a goofball Thors knows Leif is the real deal.
    It is highly likely that Leif was the one who taught the true warrior philosophy to Thors.
    Vinland Saga is essentially Thorfinn slowly realizing just how wrong he was as a kid.

    • @kekero540
      @kekero540 Рік тому +216

      True, Thors lived in a society of men who were in many ways higher than him.
      This is exemplified by the fact he’s a pretty bad blacksmith despite being in Iceland for years. He respects the hell out of people who are able to make things. Because deep down he hates that the only thing he’s good at is destruction. (And being a kickass rower)

    • @Maxim0M1
      @Maxim0M1 Рік тому +39

      Despite being very basic logic, there's a hint of truth to what the kids are saying. People who choose not to fight ARE sometimes cowards. Without any real fighting experience and deep truths gained by having experienced actual fighting, you don't really know what you're dealing with. There's a reason Leif turned to Thorfinn to deal with the natives of Vinland, Leif realized Thorfinn was a lot braver than him and knew battle all too well, well enough to actually be prepared to deal with the conflict and broker peace with them in a way he knew he couldn't.
      Real strength is knowing how to battle, being powerful enough to deal with your adversaries, but choosing not to use that power. If you do not have that strength, you will inevitably be overcome with fear when a conflict situation ensues, blinding you to finding alternative solutions. It's the same concept used in so many martial arts. Students are taught how to fight not to actually use those abilities (unless the situation leaves you no other choice), but to be able to deal with the situations peacefully while having the upper hand.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Рік тому +29

      @@Maxim0M1 That’s often intelligence rather than cowardice.

    • @Maxim0M1
      @Maxim0M1 Рік тому +13

      @@wildfire9280 They're not mutually exclusive. It's certainly intelligent to avoid a fight if you don't know how to fight, but the motivation behind that action in that scenario is cowardice.

    • @swift1682
      @swift1682 Рік тому +9

      Miyamoto Musashi also talks about a similar concept in the book of five rings, the same idea shown in Vagabond

  • @thepurehealer1279
    @thepurehealer1279 Рік тому +52

    I like that adult Thorfinn clearly doesn't forgive Askeladd for killing his father or mistreating him yet also very clearly still cares for him and has learned a lot from him. It's a very layered relationship that isn't simply one thing or the other and is one of my favorite parts of the show

  • @Bryan_____
    @Bryan_____ Рік тому +545

    While I do understand why a lot of people are turned off by season 2, I personally think it’s even better than the first season so far. I really do appreciate the message that Makoto Yukimura was trying to convey in the slave arc. One of my favorite arcs in Anime/Manga

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +112

      I feel the same way. I wasn't that into Vinland Saga during the prologue, but the farm arc turned it into one of my favorite series

    • @roanferguson8873
      @roanferguson8873 Рік тому +28

      I fully agree. While I loved Askeladd and all of the supporting cast of season 1, watching the little demon child grow into a compelling and sympathetic character was fantastic.

    • @AR-hh2em
      @AR-hh2em 5 місяців тому +1

      Askeladd was the reason why I liked the first season more

    • @doge_69
      @doge_69 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AR-hh2em For me, season 2 Thorfinn was even better than Askellad.

  • @Bionickpunk
    @Bionickpunk Рік тому +301

    1:19:23 The Copyright Protection Boys are always perfectly positioned during the anime shots. Well done on the top tier editing.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +36

      Thank you I'm glad you like that haha

  • @oddeyes9413
    @oddeyes9413 Рік тому +70

    Vinland Saga reminds me of something my grandma said: *"Good people do bad things, when the heart is breaking."*

  • @rnrgaming4579
    @rnrgaming4579 Рік тому +143

    Gigantism, the condition thorkell suffers/benefits from can cause accute arrythmia and pressure loss in certain vascular systems that his organs because of their size are not designed to handle. This can cause blunt force trauma and especially concussions to be quite common. Thorfinn spun Thorkell's head so fast that the bruising and swinging of the brain but also momentary pressure and flow disruption made more accute by his condition rendered him unconscious

    • @alexvaughan1013
      @alexvaughan1013 2 місяці тому +1

      Thorkell is a walking wall of plot armour though. In Baltic, he gets incinerated, yet all it does is make his hair go curly!

  • @SageCortez
    @SageCortez Рік тому +831

    His character from the start of the mangas to now- the final arc is fkin amazing.
    One of the best protagonists in manga.
    Good video!

    • @rezon5752
      @rezon5752 Рік тому +14

      Thorfinn is goat!

    • @fingergunbari8851
      @fingergunbari8851 Рік тому +5

      The final arc? It's not over brother

    • @SageCortez
      @SageCortez Рік тому +29

      @@fingergunbari8851 No. We are in the final arc and the manga will probably end next year.

    • @scottgimple8107
      @scottgimple8107 Рік тому +6

      @@fingergunbari8851we r in the last arc now. Prob about 20-30 chapters to go based of the authors comment

    • @poweringinceneration4788
      @poweringinceneration4788 Рік тому

      ​@RezoN

  • @kodibrown7765
    @kodibrown7765 9 місяців тому +7

    “I have no enemies”
    The impact this statement has had on me is massive and this series will forever be close to my heart. I don’t think I’ve ever been so moved from a show or manga. Brilliant piece of work from a brilliant mind

  • @JarkeyBacon
    @JarkeyBacon Рік тому +959

    Making a 3hr video on any topic is a massive achievement. Bravo! Personally, I like to make shorter videos myself, but the effort put into this work should be recognised. I'll be sharing this around in a few of the Vinland Saga circles I'm in. :D

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +71

      Thank you man I really appreciate that, and keep up the great work on your own projects!

    • @comrade_munch
      @comrade_munch Рік тому +2

      THE Jarkey Bacon? 😳

    • @JarkeyBacon
      @JarkeyBacon Рік тому +2

      @@comrade_munch The?? Well, I think I'm the only one :D

    • @shigglezz684
      @shigglezz684 Рік тому

      Dude it was a big struggle to watch at first cause the entire asthetic and poor jokes but the video is awesome and I have to finish

  • @dennisssmith430
    @dennisssmith430 Рік тому +47

    This man is a genius for using the Berserk manga method of storytelling. The Farm Arc = The Black Swordsman Arc. Bravo sir 👏

  • @uzumakifelix
    @uzumakifelix Рік тому +48

    its simple, lots of people preach "no violence" but never experience real war, violence.
    thorfinn experience hell itself, he knows it and we know he did

  • @magnusmanga22
    @magnusmanga22 Рік тому +68

    One thing that people might not realize is that Thorkell is based off of a real person Thorkell the Tall. He served Cnut (Canut) the Great and actually fought switched sides during the Danish invasion. He first sides with the Danes and then switches to the English during the battle of London and then switched back to the Danish side fighting alongside Cnut

  • @Tohpeak
    @Tohpeak Рік тому +58

    Just realized the copyright boys are doing the P4 specialist dance. Fye ✨

  • @bornanime3255
    @bornanime3255 Рік тому +434

    Canute's entire journey is really similar to one of my favourite writings in the Bible. Ecclesiastes, a book on a great philosopher and king who realised the futility of all that he'd gained as a king and the true value in living. It's really interesting how the story of Vinland Saga looks on concepts I'd never thought I'd ever see in Japanese manga. Oddly enough I'd read Vinland Saga at a time in my life when I really needed the right push to not make major mistakes. It's really touching. Your look into Vinland Saga was amazing man. Hopefully I get to see your videos as the go on further. Take your time with what you do man. We all, or at least some, really do appreciate the quality of these.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +27

      Thank you I'm really glad you liked it :)

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Рік тому +15

      I might not be a Christian but I do agree with the parts about living in peace, being wholesome and the like, Jesus seems like a great guy. Still though I do not agree with everything (partially because I see it as mythology, partially because some of it I see as morally wrong) and it is sad to see so many twist media/texts such as the Bible to suit their needs to spread hate and violence (a prime example being the westbero baptist church)

    • @pieterlindeque7798
      @pieterlindeque7798 Рік тому +6

      Vinland Saga is actually one of the best Christian theology inspired works I've seen. It's subtle and not on the nose, but it's quite obvious that the author has written that theme throughout the core of his work. It's almost like the author parallels the difficulties of being a better person in a broken world to the difficulties of living up to the glory of God that all men fail to do. That truth that no man is capable of living as Christ destroyed Canute's worldview and also shaped Thorfinn's indirectly. Where one man became hopeless because he realised paradise on Earth is impossible the other man realised that even if it may be impossible we must still strive to be better and hold paradise in the hearts of mankind. I think that's why meeting Thorfinn brought Canute back to a better path. He saw that even in a world without paradise, a single man can still strive to do what little he can to at least try to make peace a reality. I expect Vinland Saga to have a tragic ending, but I also believe it will have an ending that shows Thorfinn in a state of peace after realising the "Vinland" his father told him about lies with the soul of man and not the material world.

    • @understanding77
      @understanding77 11 місяців тому

      its interesting you say that because the anime has quotes from that chapter of the bible

  • @doomslayer2290
    @doomslayer2290 Рік тому +275

    It's cool how philosophically this is very connected to Attack on Titan. Where Attack on Titan focuses on the cycle of hate, and Vinland focuses on breaking hate and the ropes that bind you to it.

    • @InvaderKaz2008
      @InvaderKaz2008 Рік тому +74

      AOT and Vinland Saga are about solving the same problem, the difference between them however is that the "heroes" of each story choose different paths to find a solution. In AOT, it's pure cynicism, even nihilism at points, and it's pretty overt that Eren makes the wrong choice, even if ultimately it does give his friends a chance to right the generational wrongdoings against their people. In VS though, Thorfinn rises from nihilism to find a path towards peace with unadulterated optimism. Eren allowed his tragedies to consume him and lead him to a path of violence in order to secure a faint glimmer of hope. Thorfinn overcomes his tragedies to become a shining beacon of hope. Two answers to the same problem.

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 Рік тому +1

      Bro you literally you wanted to sound smart so bad 😂😂. AoT and Vinland are literally both about breaking the cycle of hate. In AoT both sides at the end had the same goal but only one side was actually taking action to get their which was Erens side while the alliance going against him wanted to stop hate, but only to save themselves and they didn’t really know how to. Not only that but they were going about it the wrong way.
      While in Vinland, Canute is similar to Eren in that both use violence to get to their goal and they are trying to save a group of people. Canute as many would say “abandoned his “humanity” and loyalty to god to bring peace to the Vikings. And Eren similarly did the same to save his people and being peace. And Thorfinn wants to bring peace to all by ceasing war and violence entirely like Armin. But in all honesty, Canute is the most human character in the series, and hasn’t abandoned his humanity. It is only natural for someone in his position to think the way he does. That is why he is still human. While Thorfinn isn’t human, the way he thinks is different and above that of normal human thinking. His mindset is only something that can be adopted by going through what he has.
      Same as Eren, his mindset is like a combination of Thorfinn and Canute. He wants to save his people so he uses as much violence as necessary. He even endures all the pain he has to in order to achieve peace same as Thorfinn.

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 Рік тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@InvaderKaz2008 you are wrong. You make it seem like Eren did it out of revenge. And if you actually read the story then you’d see that he literally doesn’t even want to do the rumbling and is sorry. He literally hates it more than any other character in the story, but he is the only one with a will strong enough to do what it takes. Everyone else in AoT just says they want to end the violence and that they want peace. But as the story literally shows, the rumbling was literally the only option.
      Please reread AoT. Eren didn’t let anything consume him. The anger he shows is literally just his willpower and his anger towards what he has to do.
      In the story. It literally shows that Eren tried literally every other option before he went with the rumbling. Don’t forget that he was basically spoiled about the entire story early on and it had a huge impact on him. But after trying to go for peace and it constantly failing, it showed him that the future couldn’t be changed to save everyone. Eren sacrificed his humanity and shouldered the pain of everyone in order to do this. That’s what makes him more human and compassionate than anyone else in the story.

    • @InvaderKaz2008
      @InvaderKaz2008 Рік тому +21

      @@demontiming3234 nah

    • @jakublutek9361
      @jakublutek9361 Рік тому

      @@demontiming3234 You're completely illiterate culturally if that's how you read this situation.

  • @vazzap100
    @vazzap100 Рік тому +46

    Thorfinn has shaped up to be my favourite protagonist of all time, and I can’t wait to see where his story goes from here!

  • @mrsticky005
    @mrsticky005 Рік тому +215

    I can't say that I agree that Thorfinn actually building a settlement in Vinland
    doesn't matter. In fact I'd argue it is going to be the most important arc
    because that is Thorfinn's ultimate test.
    Now historically we know that the Vinland settlement fails and Thorfinn returns
    to Iceland and eventually dies in his homeland.
    However the question is, if the manga follows history (more or less) then
    what will lead Thorfinn back to Iceland? Why does Thorfinn ultimately fail?
    At the same time I do not expect that Vinland will be an entirely nihilistic story.
    I don't think the point of it will be, Thorfinn is a stupid pacifist and war is inevitable.
    Thorfinn has friends and family and a legacy.
    The real life Thorfinn had a son named Snorri who was the first person of
    European descent born on North American soil.
    Will Thorfinn teach Snorri what it means to be a "true warrior"?
    Will Snorri understand where a young Thorfinn failed to?
    Sure maybe none of this will happen. The manga doesn't HAVE TO follow history and
    the sagas (which I think are more legend?) The manga could have evil robots appear
    out of nowhere and have Thorfinn unite all of humanity in one final epic struggle.
    But I personally feel like it should (more or less) follow history/the sagas
    and I think it will. I'm just not sure what points Yukimura will want to focus on.
    However I think ending with Snorri will be bring the series full circle.
    Finally this isn't historical but after Thorfinn dies I want a small time skip of an older Snorri meeting a young William the Conqueror and have him implied to be the spiritual successor to Askeladd.

    • @SageCortez
      @SageCortez Рік тому +28

      Good comment.
      I have faith in Yukimura that he will write a good ending that will wrap up the themes, characters and story nicely.
      Chapter 200 should come out this month!
      Snorri.. soon.

    • @alexvaughan1013
      @alexvaughan1013 Рік тому +9

      ​@@SageCortez It'd better not end like AoT!!

    • @lornbaker1083
      @lornbaker1083 Рік тому

      His proper title is the Unfortunate one born out of wedlock. until he actually conquers All of england.

    • @jamesjaya6744
      @jamesjaya6744 Рік тому +10

      'Thousand year voyage' give the clue. Probably thorfin will fail, but it will insipire us the reader to dream about it. Vinland is a dream that is passed from generation to generation. Thorfinn passed the torch to all of us. Vinland might be impossible, but the author still tell us to seek it

  • @alexvaughan1013
    @alexvaughan1013 Рік тому +25

    A 3-hour video on Vinland Saga AND you pronounce Askeladd's name right. You really went all out with this!

  • @arutito4126
    @arutito4126 Рік тому +46

    I am not exaggerating when I say that this is legitimately one of the best UA-cam videos I’ve ever seen. You and your content are legitimately special, and I hope you know it.
    Going straight to the Patreon!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +5

      Thank you my friend you're very kind 😁

  • @an8strengthkobold360
    @an8strengthkobold360 Рік тому +20

    I really appreciate how he took the time to edit himself into the cart, moving along with it.
    It's a nice funny little detail.

  • @aiceagain7128
    @aiceagain7128 Рік тому +742

    Bruh this storytelling is a masterpiece, all the joke are a 10/10, the story is explained in the cleanest way possible, I never post comments, but i felt like i was forced to tell you that the job here is incredible ! Keep up the good work

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +53

      Thank you for going out of your way to leave this one, definitely gave me a smile

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 Рік тому +6

      This story made me grow a Greek beard.

  • @ibrahim3348
    @ibrahim3348 Рік тому +82

    Yo are a really intelligent guy and I’m amazed of the sheer depth you went in to cover and link so many themes and not just from thorfinn’s perspective. You really opened my eyes man, what an amazing story Vinland saga is. The quality of this video is insane and the time and effort put into it is evident, always great to find underrated gems lol. I hope you get the recognition you deserve!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +9

      Thank you much that's very kind, I'm glad you liked the video

  • @dest2118
    @dest2118 Рік тому +216

    This is so well-written. I remember reading the farmland arc in 2019 god damn it hit hard. Thorfinn’s character arc is so incredibly raw and you did a phenomenal job on this video!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +8

      Thank you so much I'm glad you think so

  • @KittyRoyalty777
    @KittyRoyalty777 Рік тому +43

    I never even knew this anime existed, but Captain Mack is so fire with their delivery that I'm sitting and watching this whole three-hour video.

  • @E44428
    @E44428 Рік тому +30

    Vinland Saga is my current hyperfixaton so having a 3 hour long video about it is HEAVEN thank you so much!!!

  • @therealforestelf
    @therealforestelf Рік тому +40

    I have watched this twice in a row just to be really really really really sure that my first assumption was correct. This is just absolutely epic. So very well explained, narrated, summed up and edited. It really is a masterpiece in itself that does justice to the masterpiece which is Vinland Saga. And from a long haired dude to another long haired dude: your hair is friggin rad. Everything about this video is awesome. Such a masterpiece!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much! You're very kind! I'm really glad you like it, rock on long haired dude

  • @fenris5932
    @fenris5932 Рік тому +128

    Yet another banger. Thanks for doing this kinda stuff. I know UA-cam doesn't reward you for taking the "take months to drop one nuke of a video" style of content creation but all the effort makes for an excellent piece of content.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +8

      Thank you, I'm happy knowing it's worth the effort for some people

  • @davedoodledude
    @davedoodledude Рік тому +4

    Vinland saga went from an anime i thought was just cool viking action to one of my favorite stories in anime/manga i’ve had in a while

  • @jdubluffy1959
    @jdubluffy1959 Рік тому +123

    Bro this video was absolutely amazing, you’re writing is so great, you kept my attention the whole time, gave me a better understanding of the story and a deeper wisdom. This is a real special video and I appreciate the MASSIVE amount of time you put into this video. I love this!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +9

      Thank you luffy my man I'm really glad you liked it

  • @lordsqugm9722
    @lordsqugm9722 Рік тому +21

    this vid could have easily been over 5 hours long if he covered the rest of the mnaga. truly incredible

  • @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X
    @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X Рік тому +552

    He stands out now. Because he has character growth in the 2nd Season. But lemme tell you, in the 1st Season Thorfinn no matter how much his actions "made sense" he was (possibly designed) to be unlikeable, and it showed.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +76

      Agreed 👏👏

    • @KIN1311
      @KIN1311 Рік тому +97

      *Obviously* designed, his past actions are so demonized now his whole entire life mission is pretty much to make amends for the shit he did and build a land of peace, we just didnt know it in the first season

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 Рік тому +110

      Also designed to deconstruct the typical ''edgy, angry avenger'' trope that gets portrayed as cool and enticing in other (shonen) manga to show how it would look like in reality: sad, nihilistic and offputting.

    • @ThyBait
      @ThyBait Рік тому +6

      He wasn’t made to be unlikeable tf are you talking about

    • @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X
      @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X Рік тому +1

      @@ThyBait Calm your tits, I said that way in case I pissed someone off, clearly it didn't work. I made the comment in the first place because as great as Thorfinn is written; we have to spend an ENTIRE season seeing a side with little to no likeable qualities, and for that to be your main character, someone who should be guiding the show, it leaves the overall experience with no one to relate with.
      The only character I can think of that I genuinely liked as a person throughout the entirety of S1 was Thorkell. It didn't seem like he raped or was a dishonorable douche (at least at this point) but was honest about pretty much everything and just loved fighting.
      Askeladd, as great as he was written; was also unlikeable. He is literally a replica of Thorfinn without even realizing it. Instead of just letting go of the past and joining people who cared about him, like Wales, he is actively leading a crusade with the very kind of people he despises in the hopes that he can ACTUALLY make a difference, when obviously that was never in the cards for him. The same way Thorfinn could've just killed Askeladd in his sleep and gone back to his family, beating Askeladd was never in the cards for him either, so instead he became an unlikeable errand boy for the very people he despised.
      I don't have to explain the little side characters in the Askeladd band, they were all unredeemable pillagers. And I couldn't connect with any of their jokes due to what they literally just did an hour before.
      I could go on but my point is while I understand WHY it is this way for the show, it doesn't change the fact that there is literally NO ONE to care about in S1 that the plot follows. They are all actively doing terrible things and whether or not Thorfinn is doing it for whinny reasons doesn't matter because he doesn't question, or even make an effort until 20 episodes later.

  • @theshrekchurch1559
    @theshrekchurch1559 Рік тому +56

    I love the part of vinland saga where Thorfinn says "hes right behind me isnt he" and then vinlands all over the place

  • @Ez.bake_evan
    @Ez.bake_evan Рік тому +106

    Vinland Saga is one of my favorite stories ever. The development and character writing is unlike anything else in manga or anime. And you can't forget about the banging soundtrack, it's fits the tone and setting perfectly.
    Awesome video man. I really appreciate the length, effort and care you put into this!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +6

      Thank you so much I appreciate that

    • @bullymaguire6773
      @bullymaguire6773 Рік тому +2

      S2 OP2 is probably the best OP I have heard and seen.

  • @PopStrikers
    @PopStrikers 11 місяців тому +6

    Honestly been sleeping on this cuz I figured it was just a "rar rar Viking smash" anime, but all your other videos are bangers so I figured I'd keep it on in another tab.
    Had no idea there was so much going on in Vinland Saga. Brought it over to my main monitor like halfway through and just watched. The themes at play here are amazing. Definitely giving this a read.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  11 місяців тому +2

      That's awesome, I'm so glad to hear it. Thanks for giving me a chance

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers 11 місяців тому

      @@CaptainMack Just got caught up.
      1) Holy shit what an incredible ride so far.
      2) Ugly cried at Chapter 191
      3) I cannot BELIEVE I got dragged into this at SUCH a cliffhanger 🫠

    • @Benpurple4
      @Benpurple4 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PopStrikers Nice! I've been thinking of reading again, I left off where the idiots were probably going to fuck up the positive relationship with the natives. Thanks to your comment I will be waiting another few months or so. I ain't hanging on no cliffs homie.

  • @PitFighterPlus
    @PitFighterPlus Рік тому +249

    So, part of why I constantly bring up Vinland saga to people (the manga specifically) along with Berserk is cause; there is overarching messages in the stories about things that I feel are missing more and more for people in our current era. Sure, these stories are told through blood, death and destruction, in the pages of fictional books-yet they still hold exceptionally important messages about who we are as people and about growth, acceptance, improvement, adversity, awareness, failure, overcoming ourselves...So many things.
    I've not watched any sort of 3 hour long video in quite some time, the last was Lord of the Rings trilogy.
    I feel every second was well spent.
    You covered many of the things, and reasons why, I love Vinland Saga so much. Well done Mack. I might just be some random face on the internet, but, you did an amazing job.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +29

      I absolutely agree with you. I love seeing stories that are relevant to the reader regardless of the subject matter or time period. I'm really glad you liked the video, thank you so much

    • @ofimportance5458
      @ofimportance5458 Рік тому

      this is literally any narrative

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +11

      @@ofimportance5458 not if it's as bad as your take

    • @adi-qx8ls
      @adi-qx8ls Рік тому +8

      @@CaptainMack Chad response

    • @oatstealer5075
      @oatstealer5075 Рік тому

      If only berserk fans had more braincells to read the manga as anything more than "haha funny man big sword go kill, so cool!"

  • @DOG_EATER_1887
    @DOG_EATER_1887 Рік тому +24

    Vagabond did basically the same thing now that i think about it, though musashi just learns to do his own thing for the most part and still uses violence when necessary, unlike thorfinn who makes it a prinicple to never use violence as little as possible and tries to make a change in the world.

    • @adi-qx8ls
      @adi-qx8ls Рік тому

      Vagabond is bhuddist tale bruh, they are not same.

    • @sunnya.07
      @sunnya.07 Рік тому +7

      @@adi-qx8lsmy friend. the original commenter did not say they were the same, they said that they were both written similarly.

    • @mattb.7079
      @mattb.7079 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@adi-qx8lsit's not a Buddhist tale, it's an adaptation of Musashi's chronicles

  • @pinkpuff8562
    @pinkpuff8562 Рік тому +46

    I have geniuenly never felt as engaged in any youtube video as this one.
    After marathoning the vinlandsaga up to S2E9, this geniuenly had me hooked, from start to finish.
    That requires mastery in pacing, presentation, timing.
    And for a 3 hour video?
    Thats unironically is some of the most impressive feats I can imagine, imagening the sheer amount of time it takes to make it right in a modern day enviroment where some people like myself has the attentionspan of a hummingbird on cocaine, aka none.
    You geniuenly have impressed me beyond what configuration of letters and words that the english language can convey.
    Great video man, wholeheartedly.

  • @FreakyHimmel
    @FreakyHimmel 7 місяців тому +1

    the near mic peak at "become a true warrior" broke my ears but it sold it. good job on the enthusiasm

  • @FvNx.
    @FvNx. Рік тому +33

    This video was actually life changing, thorfinn is such an inspiration not only to me but I’m sure many aswell and your video helped show me that. So thank you so much for these 3 incredible hours I’ve spent watching your content.

  • @rockerrrboy8501
    @rockerrrboy8501 Рік тому +22

    Even so I've neither watched nor read it Vinland Saga, your video legitimately made me tear up more than once, thank you for such hard work.

  • @maxojavierrojasurzua5746
    @maxojavierrojasurzua5746 Рік тому +30

    Vinland Saga has being one of the best stories I have read and watch in recent years. Thanks Yukimura.

  • @mzbros3659
    @mzbros3659 Рік тому +4

    Imagine changing mindsets with a piece of art so impactful. What a message

  • @SkyHighClaw
    @SkyHighClaw Рік тому +176

    Man your videos are incredible. THIS is finally the video that's gonna get me watching Vinland Saga.
    Every other video only focused on Ashladd and Thorfinn you actually went into the concept of a true warrior which is FAR more interesting than just forgiveness which every other anituber kept pointing to.
    Not only is your delivery unique your subject matter is too. Your channel is CLEARLY underrated

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +14

      Hell yeah I'm so glad to hear that. Thank you brother

    • @Doomergedon
      @Doomergedon Рік тому +1

      But- the captain just told all the story as far as the anime goes😐…

  • @parthmishra9585
    @parthmishra9585 7 місяців тому +2

    I never thought I would watch a 3hr explanation video about an anime series. Yet all the details you have mentioned and explained each character's philosophy is just mind-blowing.
    You did a brilliant job, if I wasn't broke I would definitely become a patron moment.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I really appreciate that

  • @aashna369
    @aashna369 Рік тому +32

    this is one of the best analysis videos I've watched on the series. made me so emotional on parts. such good work, looking forward for more of your videos!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +3

      That's so kind of you to say thank you so much

  • @noviksstory3325
    @noviksstory3325 Рік тому +5

    Criminally underrated content creator, to be able to keep my full attention for 3 hours straight is an achievement. Thank you for this masterpiece.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank YOU for watching it, I'm really glad you liked it

  • @modvavet
    @modvavet Рік тому +37

    It's all cool, bud. For this level of quality you can just take as much time as you need.
    Had this playing in the background while I was working (IT stuff; I'm still actually at work until 2:30 AM) and it really improved what was turning into a rough night. Thank you!
    Now I just need to actually crack open vol. 2 of the tankobon and get to reading.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +5

      I'm really glad my video was able to help in that way, thank my friend. Definitely worth a read lol, at least I think so

    • @modvavet
      @modvavet Рік тому +2

      @@CaptainMack oh, it'll definitely be worth it.
      Also just finished the first Bunny Girl Senpai light novel and I'm working on vol.1 of To Your Eternity and a Junji Ito anthology.
      I used to read a ton, but then I fell out of it for over a decade and now I'm trying to get back into it. Reading legit gets more difficult when you don't crack a book for a long while. :P

  • @Keith-vf9ml
    @Keith-vf9ml 9 місяців тому +1

    You’re editing makes a 3 hour video fly by goddamn props

  • @Ish12
    @Ish12 Рік тому +5

    Dude how are you still this underrated, every single video gives me so much unfathomable joy

  • @TheGyldenaut
    @TheGyldenaut Рік тому +12

    15:44 Leif was actually going to North America on purpose, the first people who saw it though found it by accident. Living on Greenland, there was practically no wood for building, so he made the excursion on the account of a different guy who saw it while looking for Greenland to find his family.

    • @liam-_-7870
      @liam-_-7870 День тому

      I belive Leif heard the legend from his father if am not mistaking

  • @jayrett
    @jayrett Рік тому +8

    Holy shit a 3-hr video we have been blessed beyond measure

  • @Theodor_Bockemuehl
    @Theodor_Bockemuehl Рік тому +8

    This 3 hour review is so beautiful, so so beautiful - i cried multiple times, in all honesty : Thank you. It touched me deeply and i really can feel the hard work you poured into making this masterpiece.

  • @gummebear1597
    @gummebear1597 Рік тому +9

    I actually prefer the longer videos. I can tell you put a huge amount of effort in this. Thank you sir!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank you I'm glad you do, I love making them

  • @Ackermun
    @Ackermun Рік тому +3

    I never post comments but I came looking for a Thorfinn analysis and your video was the first one to come up, and I have to say I’m blown away, I watched the entire thing in one sitting. Keep up the good work!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much, I'm really glad you liked it! I absolutely will

  • @abidyo
    @abidyo Рік тому +7

    Bro you're a genius! This is literally the best video essay on Vinland saga Ive ever seen

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому

      You're too kind, thank you my friend

    • @abidyo
      @abidyo Рік тому

      @@CaptainMack Lowkey wish you'd breakdown the Baltic Sea War arc tho, I'd love to see your take on where he literally have no choice to challenge his pacifism against blood thirst people who don't know nor care in front of his wife and new found family in the middle of war. ( I get it's way ahead of the current anime season but was just hoping I could get your thoughts on that incredible arc too)

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +2

      @@abidyo It's entirely possible I'll make another Vinland Saga video, so we'll see!

  • @JeeBayYT
    @JeeBayYT Рік тому +9

    This story, it's just crazy on how it'll shatter your ego to pieces... You'll go down to earths core even. I've watched the whole damn video and i can say now this guy has just perfectly captured the feeling this anime gives you. Just complete humility. So much so that it'd fix your own behavior sometimes. Nice video.

  • @ninjades7002
    @ninjades7002 Рік тому +11

    God what a video analysis of Vinland Saga this was, how you were able to make a 3hr video and keep in constantly engaging is why I watch you Mack. Your content is amazing and I am happy I finally got to watch this. Can’t wait to your next video!

    • @ninjades7002
      @ninjades7002 Рік тому +1

      I love you Mack

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Ninja, love you too dawg. I'm really glad you enjoyed this one

  • @TheYoshiHunterOfOz
    @TheYoshiHunterOfOz 7 місяців тому +1

    This is a LOT of information to fit into a single video and I think your pacing and transitions from arc to arc or scene to scene are very seamless, you have a really good style of videos!

  • @Daniel-ms9xe
    @Daniel-ms9xe Рік тому +3

    This video is a 10/10 i was expecting a normal review but got more and a deeper look into life

  • @anthonywasher9855
    @anthonywasher9855 Рік тому +9

    yo boss this was so good! I really admire your clear concise speech. Taking your time to pause after each sentence, allowing the viewer to digest what you have said is very important, And you have nailed it. keep it up bro! viewer from New Zealand

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      I don't get praise for that kind of thing very often so thank you!

  • @b-santriestorock.5044
    @b-santriestorock.5044 Рік тому +8

    3 hours, man! Just finished the first half, gonna pick up the rest sometime later. Great video as always!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank you I'm really glad you're enjoying it so far!

    • @b-santriestorock.5044
      @b-santriestorock.5044 Рік тому

      @@CaptainMack Your long videos are always enjoyable. Great writing and editing every time. XD

  • @Callisto_Arcas
    @Callisto_Arcas 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow. When I saw 3 hrs, I didn't think I'd make it thru all of it. But, not only did I finish it over the span of a few days, each day after work I was looking forward to watching the next hour. Thank you for this long form analysis on Thorfinn & Vinland Saga. Well done!

  • @tannerbruning868
    @tannerbruning868 Рік тому +11

    To give thors credit, he didn’t really get a chance to teach thorfin what a true warrior was in large part thanks to eskelad

  • @odinson2273
    @odinson2273 Рік тому +4

    You and Jacob Geller have become my favorite doc channels on UA-cam. I know it's not a 'doc' in the typical sense, but it's stuff like this I wish they'd used to teach in schools.
    You're not just telling, you're explaining, going in depth. Not only do you learn the story but everything in it including things you may have missed.
    This, the chain saw mam video, and Berserk will forever be amongst my favorite videos on this website

  • @luapark3068
    @luapark3068 Рік тому +7

    This was truly one of the best 3 hours ive spent in a good while. You had me interested reading in a manga that ive already read, and feeling for characters that i thought i was done with. Excellent work mate, cant wait for your next video in the next few months!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much, that's huge praise!

  • @lilyb2334
    @lilyb2334 Рік тому +2

    amazing video from start to end, it shows how much work you put into it and we can't thank you enough for it 👏👏

  • @sdemac00
    @sdemac00 Рік тому +26

    Fantastic analysis and masterful way of laying it out, funny as all get out. Another great video, always a pleasure to get the notifications of your videos
    Praying for your time of “youtube randomly deciding this video getting pushed” once again

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +2

      Haha we're both hoping for that! But I'm glad you liked it, thank you

    • @sdemac00
      @sdemac00 Рік тому +1

      @@CaptainMack genuinely one of the bigger inspirations when i sit down and write a script (that eventually goes nowhere)
      You are great at what you do and hope you’re rewarded for it

  • @MilzLintesa_TLM
    @MilzLintesa_TLM Рік тому +5

    This anime is one of the greatest I’ve ever seen and this video is one of the greatest explanations and break downs I’ve seen. I respect your 3hrs.

  • @chriscyborg2187
    @chriscyborg2187 Рік тому +6

    Damn another long video, I just love it. You the only one i know spend this much time of analysing. Keep going

  • @nunyabeezwix7816
    @nunyabeezwix7816 Рік тому +4

    This video was a journey and the end moved me in a way I haven’t been in a while. I finished this yesterday and just finished binging your berserk video today. I’ll definitely be following for a while and look forward to your future work no matter how long it takes.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому

      Thank you my friend, I'm really glad to hear that

  • @ArkaniproMA
    @ArkaniproMA Рік тому +11

    Thank you so much for this video,
    I hope I can struggle like Thorfinn for my whole life.
    God bless.

  • @zachattack4666
    @zachattack4666 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't know what kind of person I would be if I hadn't watches this video. Truly thank you for this.

  • @blakesmith7058
    @blakesmith7058 Рік тому +8

    Absolutely amazing video essay, sadly I wont watch all of it until at least the second season of the anime is done airing episodes, but there's no way I can keep myself from coming back here once that stops

  • @kouji9768
    @kouji9768 Рік тому +5

    1000/10 video! Loved every second of it. The way you narrate this story is absolutely phenomenal and really inspiring no cap 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому

      Thanks my friend I'm really glad you enjoyed it

  • @natenatenate10
    @natenatenate10 Рік тому +13

    I've--unashamedly--watched this several times already and plan on watching it several more times.
    Love all of your other videos (particularly the Chainsaw Man & Berserk ones) but this is, for now at least, your greatest work.
    You're a great storyteller and it's evident that those years of working with children and needing to maintain their attention has positively affected your creative process.
    I eagerly await your future videos discussing thought-provoking anime!

  • @JUMMER69420
    @JUMMER69420 Рік тому +7

    The only other manga/anime I’ve watched that tells the audience about the cycle of violence is Fullmetal Alchemist, though not as developed as Vinland Saga. I hope you make a video of FMA but it is an old series so I don’t expect you to. I really liked this video and you just got yourself a new sub Captain!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +5

      FMAB is one of my all time favorite anime! I don't have anything planned at this time, but a video on that one is not out of the question. Thanks for subbing my friend

  • @kellycantu8509
    @kellycantu8509 Рік тому +5

    This is one of those videos that make me I wish youtube allowed you to like the same video multiple times. Holy HELL was this an amazing watch 10/10 .going bonkers as we speak

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому

      Very sweet of you to say thank you very much

  • @joko8395
    @joko8395 Рік тому +2

    The dramatic moments with the copyright protection boys is so jarring and so good at the same time

  • @aggersoul23
    @aggersoul23 Рік тому +3

    Those 3 hrs felt like a gentle breeze...
    But omg do I realise how much of a living hell,,, scripting and editing... And literally everything...
    Especially the dancing... Omg you must be exhausted for dancing like Jagger for 3 hrs straight...
    I appreciate you,,, thank you... Thank you deeply

  • @michaelthompson1722
    @michaelthompson1722 9 місяців тому +1

    I watched this video before reading/watching any vinland saga. This video is great, It has personally helped me in my own life,during a very dark time. Now that I've seen the show I appreciate this video so much and the life lessons Makoto Yukimura was doing his best to teach. Again I doubt you understand how much this video helped me. Thank you for creating it.

  • @i_dont_know_anything1201
    @i_dont_know_anything1201 Рік тому +4

    He really dropped the hardest line in a video about Vinland saga

  • @Ashikawahong
    @Ashikawahong 10 місяців тому +2

    I usually put on video essays to have something to listen to before sleep but the first three minutes of this were already so incredibly funny😂
    Greetings from someone who's probably not gonna get any sleep tonight

  • @Ookamiryoshi
    @Ookamiryoshi Рік тому +6

    My secret wish is that Vinland Saga does so well that they remake Planetes, Yukimuras other manga. Also I'm glad to know you have an appreciation for himbos like Franky and Thorkell.

  • @HiddenForbidden2
    @HiddenForbidden2 7 місяців тому +1

    From your recommendation in making this video, I have now finally watched both seasons of Vinland Saga on Netflix, and by Odin is it great!
    From all the amazing choreography and scheming in the first season, to the more grounded yet vastly deep and intelligent season 2, it is now fair to say that I have become a fan!
    I don't often pick up new series to follow, so I am so glad that I gave this one a chance!

  • @motherofthetans
    @motherofthetans Рік тому +6

    Your video, recommended by my son, made me read Chainsaw Man, which he'd been trying to get me to do for a while. This video, recommended to my son by me, made him read Vinland Saga, which I'd been trying to get *him* to do for a while. So, thanks for both of them 😊 I really enjoy literary analysis and yours is always fantastic.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Haha that's so cool, I love to hear that. Thank you so much I'm glad you've enjoyed them

  • @alandickens8948
    @alandickens8948 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful video. There certainly is a lot to say about this amazing story and its amazing characters, and you did so beautifully!

  • @WynellLongin
    @WynellLongin Рік тому +4

    this was truly a master piece, thank for you hard work and passion for creating content like this

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому

      Thank you for checking it out, I'm really glad you enjoyed it

  • @discorabbit
    @discorabbit Рік тому +1

    Just wanted to point out that Snake attacked because he could tell Thorfin was a warrior by his “reactions” to being cut. So he attacked to see fish it out of him as well as prove his point. Love that scene

  • @krystiandrzazga1950
    @krystiandrzazga1950 Рік тому +18

    holy shit you must have put so much effort into making that video man i really like your content and i am convinced this will be another banger analisys i hope you will blow up with this video like with the berserk video so more people will be able to see the rest of it keep up the great work man :)

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +1

      Thank you that's very kind of you to say

  • @Blu_color2901
    @Blu_color2901 Рік тому +2

    The copyright protection dance goes fucking hard

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Рік тому +3

      I'll let the boys know you appreciate their work

  • @gabrielsarbu162
    @gabrielsarbu162 Рік тому +3

    Bro is so entertaining,he made me watch an 3 hour video

  • @alpacarice2304
    @alpacarice2304 Рік тому +8

    Based on context clues, just like how Askeladd killed Ragnar, Captain Mack most likely killed at least one of his students’ parents.

  • @mill1048
    @mill1048 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the vid, you're really good at keeping peoples attention with such a long vid, but it was really interesting and kept me tuned in most of the time. I will try to understand shows and stories more like this from now on :)

  • @DourFlower
    @DourFlower Рік тому +1

    You helped me to realize new and wonderful things about a manga ive loved for years

  • @lizabetta1704
    @lizabetta1704 Рік тому +5

    1:33:20 I actually started to tear up and eventually cried like bitch while watching this moment of your video. You stabbed me and I like this pain, despite never watching or reading Vinland Saga.