GM Hikaru Ranks the Legends, the GOATs, the Theorists | Tier Maker: Greatest Chess Players

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  • Опубліковано 14 вер 2020
  • GM Hikaru Nakamura and IM Levy Rozman, aka @GothamChess discuss the games and rank the legends, goats and theorists from Nimzowich to Carlsen to Kasparov to Anand.
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  • @MoreGMHikaru
    @MoreGMHikaru 3 роки тому +1721

    Hey everyone! We just released the last analysis video for Hikaru's 9LX Champions Showdown performance- it's not one to miss. Check it out by clicking FallKaru or by going here: ua-cam.com/video/W52QVBhNDOs/v-deo.html

    • @abhayjo
      @abhayjo 3 роки тому +35

      where is the remaining part of this video??

    • @luayabuhani2004
      @luayabuhani2004 3 роки тому +2

      Hikaru I respect you so much

    • @rhop5213
      @rhop5213 3 роки тому +6

      I’m gonna laugh every time I see the fall guy Hikaru

    • @arnavrawat9864
      @arnavrawat9864 3 роки тому +1

      Lovely pfp

    • @Sheep.
      @Sheep. 3 роки тому +2

      The fall guys Hikaru is the guardian angel of this channel.

  • @friedsugar2701
    @friedsugar2701 3 роки тому +5204

    *Sees Anand*
    India: So, I am very interested.

  • @sandeeppanda7879
    @sandeeppanda7879 3 роки тому +6528

    As an Indian, I can verify that Anand's contribution and impact on Indian Chess is unprecedented. His own city of Chennai now has >30 GMs (mostly kids and youth). A whole generation grew up watching him. He is also a very polite and kindhearted man, contrary to the champions that came before him.

    • @maverick4900
      @maverick4900 3 роки тому +81

      @Richard Horrocks Tf lol.

    • @danieldelosreyes6800
      @danieldelosreyes6800 3 роки тому +30

      You mean the champion after him?

    • @megugu2155
      @megugu2155 3 роки тому +414

      30 GMs? must be a nightmare for a striving chess player to be there

    • @wizarddev3506
      @wizarddev3506 3 роки тому +2

      *spassky*

    • @laraweinberg7635
      @laraweinberg7635 3 роки тому +208

      Emphasis on that last sentence. Fischer in particular was extremely hostile toward women and minorities.

  • @AchillesSeverus
    @AchillesSeverus 2 роки тому +1691

    When you say "Chess" in India, everyone thinks of Vishwanath Anand to this very day. His legacy is surmounted in all our memories.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Рік тому +67

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

    • @zuesr3277
      @zuesr3277 Рік тому +4

      I Only know one name in indian scene his name

    • @aditsaini5094
      @aditsaini5094 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@zuesr3277 prag is a nice player

    • @peterinq
      @peterinq 11 місяців тому +8

      I don’t think that’ll ever even change, he’s an absolute legend

    • @Cristian-de9iu
      @Cristian-de9iu 7 місяців тому

      @@aditsaini5094 not even close to the top 3 yet, even drawing against Magnus.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav Рік тому +1004

    I don't know what is more impressive. The sheer amount on Indian GMs inspired by Anand or the fact that Anand is still higher rated than all of them 😂

    • @ZebecZT
      @ZebecZT Рік тому +25

      thats so cool lmao

    • @ngcool4112
      @ngcool4112 Рік тому +3

      lmaoo 😂🤣🤣

    • @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
      @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 Рік тому +38

      The 2nd one lol. I thought Anand dropped back a bit but nah he's still highest rated.

    • @kanekiNamikaze
      @kanekiNamikaze 8 місяців тому +8

      Well this changed last week.. gukesh is currently the highest rated Indian GM

    • @GMPranav
      @GMPranav 8 місяців тому +14

      @@kanekiNamikaze Well, I am not taking away from Gukesh's achievement, but this is more because Anand isn't playing lol. I bet Anand could beat Gukesh in a classical match right now. But the good thing is that Gukesh seems to be only getting stronger with time.

  • @nikhilvenugopal9731
    @nikhilvenugopal9731 3 роки тому +9329

    The editor is smart, in order to woo the Indian audience, he puts anand on the thumbnail... Fair play XD

  • @reversal
    @reversal 3 роки тому +4900

    XQC is a theorist. The Wooden shield didn't create itself!

    • @lunchexlizerd3927
      @lunchexlizerd3927 3 роки тому +119

      Also just one of the all time strongest players of the game

    • @rubenvandevelde555
      @rubenvandevelde555 3 роки тому +3

      Hahaha

    • @gru9480
      @gru9480 3 роки тому +71

      also the first person to break the 3000 rating on FIDE

    • @goldyarora1977
      @goldyarora1977 3 роки тому +18

      @@gru9480 nope. Anand was about 2800 not 3000. Highest rating is around 2882 by magnus and second is Kasparov.

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 3 роки тому +37

      I saw this in Hikarus twitch chat. Lol

  • @harryishatless
    @harryishatless Рік тому +480

    At 48:12 Levy says, "In terms of his chess; it speaks for itself." Perhaps unwittingly inspiring Niemann's statement two years later. :D

    • @greatmusic142
      @greatmusic142 Рік тому +13

      bro we gotta make this comment popular so im leaving a reply just because, i wanna know if its an actual quote from a grandmaster or is it a coincidence?

    • @Raod14Reference
      @Raod14Reference Рік тому +41

      The foreshadowing speaks for itself

    • @greatmusic142
      @greatmusic142 Рік тому +2

      @@Raod14Reference i like what u did there

    • @ElectroDragon16
      @ElectroDragon16 Рік тому +2

      I was thinking the same lol

  • @wolfslash599
    @wolfslash599 2 роки тому +503

    Hikaru can literally have a conversation with himself for hours

    • @fujiapple9675
      @fujiapple9675 10 місяців тому +18

      And he literally doesn't care, either.

    • @nimnim5149
      @nimnim5149 8 місяців тому +11

      and it would go like "take take take take take ... umm take take take take ........... "

    • @SabakuNoGaara2023
      @SabakuNoGaara2023 7 місяців тому +3

      So I'm something of a Hikaru myself 🙂

    • @Cristian-de9iu
      @Cristian-de9iu 7 місяців тому +1

      @@SabakuNoGaara2023Me as well, the fat c:

    • @MP-tf7cc
      @MP-tf7cc 6 місяців тому

      😂

  • @jayeshyadav8891
    @jayeshyadav8891 3 роки тому +2801

    The immense respect Hikaru has for Anand is heartwarming ❤️

    • @coolexio
      @coolexio 3 роки тому +32

      And clouding his judgement evidently.

    •  3 роки тому +98

      or is it to gain indian fans?

    • @dragndorf9
      @dragndorf9 3 роки тому +109

      @ Hikaru for sure knows what to say to please people lmao

    • @jayeshyadav8891
      @jayeshyadav8891 3 роки тому +266

      People always find something negative in everything. Why can't it be real respect for Anand? Everything Hikaru says seems legit about Anand. Plus he doesn't need to attract Indian audience.

    • @wortyle
      @wortyle 3 роки тому +151

      Selim Yıldız So you honestly think Hikaru, the chess prodigy and arguably one of the best blitz player in the world, will put his reputation on the line and lie about how great Anand was just so he can gain more UA-cam viewers? Sit down.

  • @xoxo94
    @xoxo94 3 роки тому +1776

    lmao someone in chat says "Lionel Messi vs Adolf Hitler"

    • @lukas4132
      @lukas4132 3 роки тому +5

      When 🤣🤣🤣????

    • @genghiskhan7515
      @genghiskhan7515 3 роки тому +6

      Lol reffering to what?

    • @eegoii
      @eegoii 3 роки тому +84

      @@genghiskhan7515 did you even watch the video? Look at the name of players on the chessboard 13:07 Lionel Adalbert vs Adolf Anderssen (Lionel vs Adolf)

    • @ayrangaming8725
      @ayrangaming8725 3 роки тому +196

      @@eegoii diD yOu EvEn WaTcH thE viDeO???

    • @Michael-xe6im
      @Michael-xe6im 3 роки тому +10

      fcear dsadfadsa 13:56 by xGreekgodx

  • @scoobydoku2464
    @scoobydoku2464 Рік тому +49

    @43:15 Hikaru mentioning Ding as the strongest contendor for #1 and now he is finally world champion

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt 11 місяців тому +1

      Hikaru knows, always. He is the greatest analyser of the game

    • @user-hb3tt2dd2o
      @user-hb3tt2dd2o 8 місяців тому

      He is not world champion yet lol

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt 8 місяців тому

      @@user-hb3tt2dd2o yes he is

    • @TheMaestromMephisto
      @TheMaestromMephisto 2 місяці тому

      weakest world champion ever

    • @TYLin0
      @TYLin0 19 днів тому

      @@TheMaestromMephisto The poorest billionaire

  • @mansah707
    @mansah707 2 роки тому +115

    47:04 my fav moment . Thank you Hikaru. Fischer is a true Legend of the game . He ll never be forgotten.

  • @3dxChetanx
    @3dxChetanx 3 роки тому +1378

    5 Time 5 Time 5 Time
    Booker T Reference. Good one

  • @jram00
    @jram00 3 роки тому +238

    One thing I can say for Anand (I'm from India) is that he broke into the ranks when the erstwhile Russia/USSR was still THE dominant force in Chess. When I read about how Russian players had a thriving ecosystem that helped them learn, compete and rise up the ranks, Anand's access to tournaments, sponsorships, and strong players (to learn from) was in a much-diminished quality and quantity. (It brings a smile whenever I think that he had to frequent the Tal Chess Club in the Russian embassy in Chennai to improve his game). This to me justifies his ranking 100%.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Рік тому +17

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

    • @wishme8739
      @wishme8739 10 місяців тому +2

      You guys know that he lived in Spain for very long time to have access to European chess facilities?

    • @harsh....8993
      @harsh....8993 9 місяців тому +15

      ​​@@wishme8739and do u that Spain has had only 1 GM with rating of 2700+ in there entire chess history ... So much for European chess facilities lol

  • @greennin
    @greennin Рік тому +51

    Rewatching these old Levy and Hikaru videos. They were all so good, hope they do stuff again someday.
    I was so happy Hikaru rated Anand so highly, that guy is really something else. Even now he's still playing at the top level, in his 50s! He's something else in every way.

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt 11 місяців тому +2

      I think levy and hikaru had a falling out after hikaru said levy will never become a GM in his lifetime

  • @manvendra_singh
    @manvendra_singh Рік тому +30

    I'm Indian now migrated abroad, I did not understand the totality of how much Anand contributed to Chess on and off the board. This is just incredible, thank you Hikaru. I love your streams and congrats on being World Champ!!

  • @TGregers
    @TGregers 3 роки тому +1128

    The percentage of work being done in Norway goes down by 85% every time Magnus plays a championship match lol. Couldn't even buy a candybar if you wanted to

    • @Cnut_the_grape
      @Cnut_the_grape 3 роки тому +11

      Wait really

    • @TGregers
      @TGregers 3 роки тому +165

      @@Cnut_the_grape haha no ^^ but it is chess mania for sure

    • @chillax9184
      @chillax9184 3 роки тому +123

      Just like when Pacquiao has a match. The people in the PH are all on tv, and traffic reduce up to 90-95%

    • @Nerdmonides
      @Nerdmonides 3 роки тому +5

      @@TGregers ja lol...fra Norge også.

    • @reginaaguila1847
      @reginaaguila1847 3 роки тому +12

      @@chillax9184 as a Fillipino you speak for the people.

  • @DarkLawd8
    @DarkLawd8 3 роки тому +467

    48:00
    Hikaru burst into a laugh expecting his name to be announced by Levy but is devastated to hear Agadmator's name as his face expressions show.

    • @prashant5229
      @prashant5229 3 роки тому +25

      Is that brutal? Cuz it seems to

    • @DarkLawd8
      @DarkLawd8 3 роки тому +88

      @@prashant5229 For a person with his ego, yes it is brutal.

    • @prashant5229
      @prashant5229 3 роки тому +11

      @@DarkLawd8 umm...ok you got a point lol. I'm noticing this too from a while. But it's just a nature of that person :)

    • @Baraa.K.Mohammad
      @Baraa.K.Mohammad 3 роки тому +47

      @@prashant5229 I mean.. from what I've seen, a big ego is really something almost all Chess players that I've seen had in them. I don't know if the game itself forces that kind of behavior or trait, but all that aside, Hikaru is really humble if you watch his streams and compare his attitude to other big huge Chess personalities! His Japanese non-confrontational nature and slightly self-conscious behavior is apparent! So putting that in mind, I think he is really humble for a Chess phenomenon!

    • @douche6106
      @douche6106 Рік тому

      was thinking the same lol

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars3918 2 роки тому +4

    Both you guys have brought chess back in my life and when I say back I’ve never loved it and played it like I do now

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars3918 2 роки тому +7

    Just so you know , your collaborations with Levy are some of my favorites

  • @IndrajitRajtilak
    @IndrajitRajtilak 3 роки тому +360

    I know I am biased, don't mind if it is pandering, I LOVE what Hikaru said about Anand. Anand was the reason my dad got me into chess! 5 people in my school were IMs, many of them were inspired by and had met Anand!

    • @user-ww9su7qv6s
      @user-ww9su7qv6s 3 роки тому +39

      Woah 5 IMs in school?! Thats awesome.

    • @generalmalaise2930
      @generalmalaise2930 2 роки тому +17

      5 ims in one school thats actually astonishing

    • @johnhinkleman9757
      @johnhinkleman9757 2 роки тому +13

      Not pandering, I’m not Indian and agree with everything he said 100%
      Anand is a saint of chess.

    • @thezerowulf2046
      @thezerowulf2046 2 роки тому

      I think that speaks to how good he is then.

    • @angelocarterm
      @angelocarterm 2 роки тому

      Funny how today I was looking for the fight between Indra and indrajit and I found you with this name in a Ramdon chess video

  • @Meddimehell
    @Meddimehell 3 роки тому +729

    Norwegian here. I fully agree with Anand being a God of chess. I am proud of Carlsen, of course, but Anand deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest in chesshistory.

    • @johnstrawb3521
      @johnstrawb3521 2 роки тому +11

      Carlsen? Thus far at a classical time control has only beaten an old, disinterested Anand, and Nepo having a nervous breakdown. That's it. Granted Carlsen beat Karjakin and Caruana at trivially short speed chess matches, but that's irrelevant towards deciding the World Chess Championship.

    • @CraftyFREAKERS
      @CraftyFREAKERS 2 роки тому +182

      @@johnstrawb3521 oh come on.....magnus is world champion for a reason , stop talking as if he isnt worthy

    • @joske7804
      @joske7804 2 роки тому +42

      @@johnstrawb3521 stop riding anand so badly, why do you care?

    • @nee7427
      @nee7427 2 роки тому +11

      @@joske7804 let him speak his heart...why do you care?

    • @sammyttheg412
      @sammyttheg412 2 роки тому +43

      @@johnstrawb3521 Carlson is a way better player in a way better era

  • @piergyo
    @piergyo Рік тому +17

    Gotham: "DIng Liren? Isn't he getting smoked in the cadidates?"
    2023: *let me introduce myself*

  • @josegonzalez8177
    @josegonzalez8177 3 роки тому +11

    Capablanca was so good that Alekhine hired a Team of grandmasters to help him win the title, Changing the dynamic of the game ( at least its the first I have heard of someone doing that) his games are the greatest teaching tool around (for now and probably forever ), for those reasons I consider him a chess god. Euwe was Lucky that Alekhine was avoiding a rematch with Capablanca

  • @barindersingh8537
    @barindersingh8537 3 роки тому +426

    U know when i was kid i doesnt know about chess a single bit, but whenever someone say chess i just know only vishy anand for me he is inspirational, God of chess bcz at that time there are not so many coaches, books, and any other stuf in india, nowdays there is everything on internet,

    • @Myname11241
      @Myname11241 3 роки тому +10

      remember parle g ,g mane genius

    • @barindersingh8537
      @barindersingh8537 3 роки тому +2

      Yes

    • @Unknownuser-vq9ul
      @Unknownuser-vq9ul 3 роки тому +25

      And thus Indian chess pride was born. Nowadays there's always at least 1 Indian guy clashing pieces with you on a normal match. I wish the Philippines would have 1 too.( A world chess champion)

    • @barindersingh8537
      @barindersingh8537 3 роки тому +3

      @@Unknownuser-vq9ul i wish...

    • @aronmendoza297
      @aronmendoza297 3 роки тому +2

      @@Unknownuser-vq9ul wait me vr0

  • @hmecGaming
    @hmecGaming 3 роки тому +63

    11:30, Hikaru you are absolutely right, Anand made chess mainstream in India , he has inspire many people in India to play chess and he is still doing it,

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Рік тому +2

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

  • @2floofy
    @2floofy 3 роки тому +12

    Lmao, my entire friend-group plays chess now, and its all due to hikaru, and im sure theres hundreds of thousands who were pulled in by hikaru and pogchamps overall. Hikarus definitely breathed new life into chess for regular-day people everywhere, and for that I dont think he can go anywhere but God of Chess

  • @haraldkjrgensen2255
    @haraldkjrgensen2255 3 роки тому +16

    I feel like Carlsen is not only inspiring Norway but all of Scandinavia so Denmark and Sweden to. We in Denmark are also getting hyped for the World Championship and cheer for Carlsen

  • @espeed.soeren
    @espeed.soeren 3 роки тому +211

    how dare u rank the legends?
    Hikaru: "I'm the bongcloud legend, so I do".

  • @gamessportsandmore3371
    @gamessportsandmore3371 3 роки тому +78

    6-3 with 25 draws is the definition of getting smoked apparently.(capablanca-alekhine).

  • @manoharbauskar3605
    @manoharbauskar3605 3 роки тому +16

    No, Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster after Vishwanathan Anand. I remember, that time Grandmaster Vishwanathan Anand and international master Pravin Thhipse were in Indian newspapers for playing in world class tournaments. When Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster, first time I heard his name. 🙏🙏

  • @JazzyArtKL
    @JazzyArtKL Рік тому +28

    Really cool idea, but I miss GM Jan Timman, GM Peter Leko and GM Gata Kamsky.

  • @govardhanreddy1867
    @govardhanreddy1867 3 роки тому +86

    8:53 Vishwanathan Anand 🙏🙏🙏

    • @davechan7661
      @davechan7661 3 роки тому +1

      Was looking for this. Thank you

  • @bettyjane6684
    @bettyjane6684 3 роки тому +4

    Love your exchange and personalities - thanks Hikaru and Levy!

  • @lfr234
    @lfr234 3 роки тому +41

    GM Hikaru: I dont know a whole lot about Akiba: * Goes on to explain like everything related to them*

  • @itzMoJo67
    @itzMoJo67 3 роки тому +3

    That's aweome they mentioned Agadmator.. if you enjoy watching chess analyse breaking down games, he's the man. been subbed for years.

  • @geonikhil
    @geonikhil 3 роки тому +506

    So here's the index (thank me later)-
    Anand: 08:54
    Capablanca: 32:22
    Carlsen: 36:21
    Caruana: 40:08
    Ficher: 46:55

    • @geonikhil
      @geonikhil 3 роки тому +20

      Maybe a second part will come. Kasparov would definitely be on this list.

    • @dhruvjain7934
      @dhruvjain7934 3 роки тому +3

      Nikhil Sharma under rated comment

    • @mehranchoudhury669
      @mehranchoudhury669 3 роки тому

      Which tier was he in?

    • @bd-ot8jm
      @bd-ot8jm 3 роки тому

      👆This should be the most liked comment 👏👏👏

    • @bernardobila4336
      @bernardobila4336 3 роки тому

      Thank you

  • @shreyvarma9375
    @shreyvarma9375 3 роки тому +280

    Sees Anand on the top
    Le Indian - So you have chosen Likes

    • @winterwarden
      @winterwarden 3 роки тому +6

      this comment is so bad and I love it

  • @chizuru1999
    @chizuru1999 3 роки тому +1

    I have been watching your videos Hikaru! Like literally almost every video this past month. Love from India really into chess again after I left playing in 2017-18. 👍🏻😊

  • @jonathanbaxter5821
    @jonathanbaxter5821 3 роки тому +8

    41:05 Levy does great impersonations. That was perfect Caruana.

  • @GunfireSerenade
    @GunfireSerenade 3 роки тому +130

    GM Hikaru: “So what do you think about X?”
    Levy: “Yeah I don’t know much about X”

  • @lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea8122
    @lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea8122 3 роки тому +485

    Ending the video right before ranking himself.... most epic cliffhanger ever

    • @Nikhil-ox6wc
      @Nikhil-ox6wc 3 роки тому +15

      @@jackstrider9509 jeez bro. Why did you have to spoil it

    • @JuliusKingsley0
      @JuliusKingsley0 3 роки тому +25

      @@Nikhil-ox6wc well ofc he would but I’m quite interested in Hikaru’s ranking in his own tier list.

    • @ivanhendr
      @ivanhendr 3 роки тому +1

      Teasy

    • @dragndorf9
      @dragndorf9 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackstrider9509man's gotta keep his job tbf

    • @kardsufur2966
      @kardsufur2966 3 роки тому +23

      his own rating will be god level in blitz, 'theorist' in classic normal chess

  • @alessandrofavaretto4360
    @alessandrofavaretto4360 3 роки тому +6

    Fun fact: in the Immortal Game, if Kieseritzky, instead of Na6, moved the light-squared bishop to create an escape for his King, he would have probably saved the game.

  • @imnotftw
    @imnotftw 3 роки тому +7

    I wish we got that Karpov - Fischer match. Would've been epic.

  • @manugonzalez4921
    @manugonzalez4921 3 роки тому +334

    You could have invited Agadmator for this list, to share his vast knowledge.

    • @jesuschristsaves9067
      @jesuschristsaves9067 3 роки тому +51

      I read vast knowledge in his voice

    • @bodhisattvaFM
      @bodhisattvaFM 3 роки тому +77

      "And it is here, after Akiba Rubenstein that we have a brand new tier list".

    • @juliocezarsilva5979
      @juliocezarsilva5979 3 роки тому +16

      @@bodhisattvaFM completely* new

    • @youngminds2384
      @youngminds2384 3 роки тому +13

      Hello everyone...

    • @kamitebyani5309
      @kamitebyani5309 3 роки тому +15

      I would respect Agadmator input much more than Levy. Much more !

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell365 3 роки тому +436

    you should have made this one with agadmator, considering he does a ton of research for his showings of historic games

    • @danielbozza
      @danielbozza 3 роки тому +16

      This is so poor their knowledge of chess history... i am ashamed 😞

    • @webdevacademy3496
      @webdevacademy3496 3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely

    • @ArthurSeijiNishikawa
      @ArthurSeijiNishikawa 2 роки тому +2

      To be fair, Levy gives a shout out to him at 48:00

    • @True123.54
      @True123.54 2 роки тому +6

      @@BHAKTIBROPHY in this video it seems to be about having fun and not being absolutely correct so yeah
      they just had fun :)

    • @deputyvillageidiot
      @deputyvillageidiot 2 роки тому +5

      So many times, Hikaru’s face looks shocked, disappointed, and frustrated by things that Levy says.

  • @anmolsrivastava1206
    @anmolsrivastava1206 4 місяці тому +3

    I love the fact how much hikaru respects Anand.

  • @udityardass
    @udityardass 2 роки тому +4

    47:55
    Can’t miss but notice how Hikaru thought Gotham was going to name him and suddenly the conversation takes a different path.. Really funny

    • @minephlip
      @minephlip Рік тому

      lmao thanks for pointing that out. The surprise and disappointment on his face is great and he makes it so awkward by just ignoring Levys entire statement about agadmator

  • @karthikchakkirala2038
    @karthikchakkirala2038 3 роки тому +4

    This is great and Hikaru was so right in rankings and taking the objective stand point

  • @takispapadopoulos7198
    @takispapadopoulos7198 3 роки тому +137

    I would LOVE to see Magnus react on this video and give his honest opinion on the ranking of all of these people. Could we please make this a reality?(and of course his agreements/disagreements with Levy and Naka)

    • @Mignon15
      @Mignon15 3 роки тому +46

      Tbh I think he would hate this kind of list seeing as how they place such weight on influence in the chess world instead of the players' chess skill. It felt a bit more like a popularity list at some points.

    • @Maximocow
      @Maximocow 3 роки тому +36

      Mignon15 well it does say he’s ranking the “legends”. It’s not really possible to rank players on skill because of course players from 2020 would be better than players from 1858. That’s why he’s more talking about their impact on the game of chess.

    • @takispapadopoulos7198
      @takispapadopoulos7198 3 роки тому +9

      @@Maximocow I agree with you but people like Morphy and Capablanca it's obvious that they were way ahead of their time and would be extraordinary GMs in our time as well. I mean if we can deduce that, all the existing GMs know way better.

    • @Brazz27
      @Brazz27 3 роки тому +10

      Magnus just doesnt seem to care about this kind of stuff..
      I dont really care either, Im watching because its an easy way to learn a lot of stuff about lots of players I didnt really know anything about..
      But Magnus have nothing to gain from doing something like that

    • @richarddawson5836
      @richarddawson5836 2 роки тому

      @@Mignon15 This list is a joke. When Hikaru puts himself in God tier it loses all credibility.

  • @killerninja4715
    @killerninja4715 Рік тому +5

    43:26 the irony in 2023 😂

  • @shafaytariq8409
    @shafaytariq8409 Рік тому +5

    43:22 this backfired.

  • @JasonsChannel62
    @JasonsChannel62 3 роки тому +6

    You two playing each other from famous positions was a good idea for a video series.

  • @justamove4137
    @justamove4137 3 роки тому +95

    At some point Hikaru is gonna take the JUICER

  • @Johnsli
    @Johnsli 3 роки тому +1

    A note to the discussion at 37:40 ish. In India there are 1,3-1,4 billion people. In Norway there are 5 million. So it is not so strange that India have more talents even if the popularity would be the same. In Norway chess has grown, I do not know how many have started playing because of Carlsen but it has certainly become more popular here. And Anand is more than 20 years older than Carlsen, so you will not necessarily have seen the effect in terms of getting through our talents yet. Not to say they ever will, but... The tournaments are broadcasted live on TV.

  • @nexesses1548
    @nexesses1548 2 роки тому +2

    Can you do a tier list of raw player strength? (Which will mostly be modern players). But I always find it more effective to learn from the strongest, not the “most legendary”. Learn from the people who are the most accurate in the most difficult positions. Find tactics that work at the highest modern level. Maybe also people like Dubov who understand the relation of piece value relative to activity and tempo and still competes at the highest level.

    • @kad9947
      @kad9947 Рік тому

      You will see Kasparov in that sea of modern players

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 3 роки тому +251

    I feel like Mikhail Tal was by far the greatest, especially when we now see the direction chess has gone. We are playing like robots. Mikhail Tal was trying to explore full human potential. Creativity, courage, inspiration.

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 2 роки тому +26

      Agreed. Computers have taken us forwards but also backwards

    • @joelabraham6834
      @joelabraham6834 2 роки тому +19

      He's got the most exciting style of play. Im not sure about greatest though.

    • @rajsub3884
      @rajsub3884 Рік тому +10

      He is one of greatest audience also need entertainment not computer like boring game that's what happening

    • @rajsub3884
      @rajsub3884 Рік тому +4

      @@joelabraham6834 I consider greatest only due to fact he was very creative created log of complications which in oid days without engine hard to figure out these days all possible that sixty years ago

    • @zboub7025
      @zboub7025 Рік тому

      @@joelabraham6834 anderssen fits there too

  • @sevenheadedmirror8505
    @sevenheadedmirror8505 3 роки тому +34

    Capa played almost 100 years ago and still ranks top according to programs, that's a GOAT. Bobby super-inspiring but Karpov already had people wondering if Fischer would have retained 1st place the next year after his tragic retirement.

    • @sunritroykarmakar4406
      @sunritroykarmakar4406 3 роки тому +7

      indian player sultan khan defeated capablanca without prep

    • @sevenheadedmirror8505
      @sevenheadedmirror8505 3 роки тому +14

      @@sunritroykarmakar4406 Sultan was so awesome, I think Reshevsky and him were the two saddest untapped potentials of chess

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 3 роки тому +11

      Take into consideration the fact that Bobby crushed the scene like no one else when he entered the chess world. I mean, how many times have you seen people going 6-0 against top players? He even mopped the frickin floor with then best player Spasky!!

    • @xa-1274
      @xa-1274 3 роки тому +1

      Shamant he had a great run but it was waaay to short run, look at Kasparov, when he was 44 he was the world champion for half of his life, sure fisher was completely dominant, but he retained his title for three years before losing his marbles. He’s a #1 undisputed at best for breaking the Russian curse

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 3 роки тому +1

      @@xa-1274 I agree that kasparov was there to stay, but even he didn't completely outclass his opponents like Bobby did. Maybe(mostly) Fischer would lose against kasparov, but chess is a sport where you can't compare players from different times as it gets built on previous knowledge.

  • @mhkubaid
    @mhkubaid 3 роки тому +2

    wow man.. the respect you have for Anand, you just deserve respect for thinking that deep!

  • @rarestcoyne6005
    @rarestcoyne6005 2 роки тому

    Hikaru you should clip the part that you guys talk about the immortal game. I learned so much from what you said. Its the first game I know by heart now lol

  • @cringelord511
    @cringelord511 3 роки тому +425

    because of anand i started playing chess

    • @theodyssey4982
      @theodyssey4982 3 роки тому +14

      You must be Indian

    • @user-vs3lw6xs7n
      @user-vs3lw6xs7n 3 роки тому +15

      @Vibhav Parekh its rather a fun fact than an issue i think :')

    • @nitishgoyal6851
      @nitishgoyal6851 3 роки тому +3

      Yes.. mee too

    • @cringelord511
      @cringelord511 3 роки тому +9

      @@theodyssey4982 yes hikaru rightly mentioned the impact he has had on chess community in india

    • @user-vs3lw6xs7n
      @user-vs3lw6xs7n 3 роки тому +12

      @Vibhav Parekh i think idians are good people, chess community probably thinks the same

  • @7uc4s
    @7uc4s 3 роки тому +52

    The awkward moment when they were analysing Carlsen .. lol

  • @bananonymouslastname5693
    @bananonymouslastname5693 Рік тому +2

    I did not expect a Booker T reference. That made me happy in a very silly way. It's fun when the outside of chess personality peeks in.

  • @x78340
    @x78340 3 роки тому

    48:30 Most important and most truthful part of the whole video regarding the best player!

  • @kardsufur2966
    @kardsufur2966 3 роки тому +176

    hikaru rating has to be, in blitz: god level
    in classic chess: theorist

    • @srinivaspendurti1170
      @srinivaspendurti1170 3 роки тому +2

      True

    • @ripcandice70
      @ripcandice70 3 роки тому +5

      But he’s not even undisputed no 1 in blitz tho?

    • @garry3465
      @garry3465 3 роки тому +9

      @@ripcandice70 he is ranked 1 in blitz.

    • @ripcandice70
      @ripcandice70 3 роки тому +20

      @@garry3465 but not the blitz world champion

    • @DLXN-lp9cj
      @DLXN-lp9cj 2 роки тому +1

      @@ripcandice70 well that's the problem , rating wise he is absolutely no.1 in blitz but he's not a world champion , so I would put him in either legend or great + unlucky , but there's a small chance that hikaru could be in the god of chess

  • @thegiftedteacher
    @thegiftedteacher 3 роки тому +33

    “It’s not Botez, I’ll tell you that.” 😂😂

  • @animegypsy5925
    @animegypsy5925 3 роки тому

    A bookerT reference was the last thing I expected on this channel. It made my day!

  • @krileym
    @krileym Рік тому

    This tier list has always been greaty

  • @davidmes6267
    @davidmes6267 3 роки тому +7

    Max Euwe has also written over 100 chess books (have a couple) and has really been an inspiration for many in the Netherlands

    • @gweah7821
      @gweah7821 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I have one of his books too. However, considering all the legends like Keres, Rubinstein etc who weren’t world champions, he’s a bit of a fluke world champion. He’s like the Greece of chess champions :)

  • @KirtiKumarKasat1
    @KirtiKumarKasat1 3 роки тому +393

    Kids offend people, legends like Levy offend countries 😂

    • @yashpandey3.3.3
      @yashpandey3.3.3 3 роки тому +3

      Which country ??

    • @SK-pj8mg
      @SK-pj8mg 3 роки тому +9

      this aged like fine wine

    • @joelwilliamson3322
      @joelwilliamson3322 3 роки тому +46

      @@yashpandey3.3.3 Hikaru was talking about China, because Levy said Fabiano Caruana was the undisputed candidate for world champion. This disrespected the Chinese player Ding Liren, who Hikaru said was also a strong candidate. It's kinda funny tho, because recently half of Indonesia was out to get Levy for catching an Indonesian cheater. Look up Dewa Kipas for the story.

    • @yashpandey3.3.3
      @yashpandey3.3.3 3 роки тому +5

      @@joelwilliamson3322 thanx for explanation☺️☺️

    • @raeeskhan6
      @raeeskhan6 Рік тому

      Levy seems salty to see Anand up there, these whites just want to see themselves above rest of others 😏 (same applies to Ding or any other asian player to be fair)

  • @henrykaspar3634
    @henrykaspar3634 Рік тому +2

    Here is my take. First, one can only say which champions stood out relative to the competition at the time. Everything else is mute, as the game changes.
    Champions who clearly stood out - each in a somewhat different way - include Lasker, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen.
    Fischer was probably the most dominant player ever, but only for a few years. By contrast, Lasker was the world's best player for 20+ years and in the top 3 for 30+ years - unsurpassed to this day. Kasparov combines longevity and level dominance like nobody else, though Carlsen is getting there. Botvinnik was super-dominant in the late 40s and then elite for another 20 years. Capablanca dominated for maybe 10 years - 1915-25 - and brought chess to a new level, he was elite for 20+ years, while having to deal with Lasker before and Alekhine after him.
    So how do one rate these against one another? It's a matter of perspective. Good arguments speak for Kasparov at the top, but one could also argue Fischer, maybe even Lasker. If you rate Kasparov highly you probably also have a weak spot for Carlsen. If Fischer is your guy you probably rank Capablanca highly too.
    The next category include Alekhine and Karpov, whose already great achievements would look even greater were it not for the brilliance of their immediate predecessors and successors. Karpov was #1 for 10 years, but without Kasparov he would have dominated world chess for 20+. Similar, Alekhine was the world's strongest also for a decade but was sandwiched between Capablanca and Botvinnik. Anand could be added to this group - he was the world's strongest player for "only" about 3 years or so, but he was elite for 20+, and sandwiched between Kasparov and Carlsen. Hard to do better in the circumstance.
    In the pre-championship/early championship age, Morphy and Steinitz can’t be overlooked. Morphy was in terms of peak dominance probably even more impressive than Fischer, though of course the scene in the 1850s was very different from the 1960s and 70s. Steinitz's longevity at the top comes close to Lasker/Kasparov/Karpov dimensions.
    So these are the A-legends of the game if you wish. Then come ‘normal’ world champions like Kramnik, Tal, Smyslov, Petrosian, Spassky, Euwe; and strong non-champions who were a tad unlucky but left their mark on the game: the likes of Caruana, Topalov, Korchnoi, Bronstein, Keres, Reshevsky, Maroczy, Tarrasch, Zukertort. Korchnoi wasn't weaker than Spassky, for example, but was unlucky to peak when Karpov dominated, while Spasski could slip in right before Fischer's period of absolute dominance. Peak Topalov was as strong as peak Anand or peak Kramnik.
    By contrast, ranking legends on the basis of "who would beat who" compares apples with oranges. Every talented 15 years old who knows how to use chessbase and stockfish knows a 1000 times more than Lasker or Capablanca - and hence would beat them on opening preparation alone.
    Based on this, my tentative attempt at an all-time ranking based on significance is below - though I have no problem if people come to other results - this isn't rocket science. I'm reasonably comfortable with my top 11, thereafter it becomes murky. This isn't rocket science.
    1 Kasparov
    2 Carlsen
    3 Fischer
    4 Morphy
    5 Capablanca
    6 Lasker
    7 Botvinnik
    8 Karpov
    9 Alekhine
    10 Steinitz
    11 Anand
    (from here with commentary)
    12 Smyslov - world's strongest player in first half of the 1950s. In the mix for another 30 years
    13 Tal - somewhat erratic but in the mix for 25 years. World's strongest around 1960
    14 Kramnik - never ranked #1 but took the title from Kasparov, elite for some 15 years
    15 Petrosian - 6 years as world champion, strongest player 1962-64
    16 Topalov - FIDE champion, three-way rivalry for #1 with Anand and Kramnik 2005-10
    17 Korchnoi - in the mix for some 30 and #2 for 10 years, incl. late 1970s (Karpov's reign)
    18 Tarrasch - world's strongest around 1890, then second fiddle to Lasker for 10+ years
    19 Spassky - elite for 10+ and in the mix for almost 30 years, world champion in the late 1960s
    20 Zukertort - #2 behind Steinitz 1874-84
    21 Reshevsky - elite from the early 1940s to the mid-1950s, in the mix for #1 twice
    22 Bronstein - briefly the strongest player in 1950/51, elite for 10+ years
    23 Euwe - elite in the late 1930s and world champion, in the mix 1930-50
    24 Caruana - elite for the past 9 years, several years #2 behind Carlsen
    25 Keres - elite in the late 1940s and late 1950-s, in the mix for almost 30 years
    Honorable mention: Maroczy, Anderssen, Gunsberg, Kolisch, Aronian, Paulsen, Rubinstein, Fine, Najdorf, Blackburne, Pillsbury, Bogoljubov.

  • @CrebleStar
    @CrebleStar 2 роки тому

    I can't believe i heard a Booker T reference in a chess video xD Well done!

  • @knightishraq
    @knightishraq 3 роки тому +105

    Magnus inspired me to enjoy chess more than anything. His apps helped a lot too. I am just a Magnus fanboy I guess.

    • @DLee-jd4yw
      @DLee-jd4yw 3 роки тому +4

      That's definitely valid.

    • @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886
      @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886 3 роки тому +5

      Tho i am not Indian but almost anyone would agree with me if I say he is easily in top 8 players of all time.

    • @knightishraq
      @knightishraq 3 роки тому

      @@imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886 i aint one either man xO I am a bangladeshi, I do fall in the same subcontinent tho

    • @SonOfDrogo
      @SonOfDrogo 3 роки тому +2

      @@knightishraq Sherlock wireless network momentarily lost his connection there. xD

    • @perkl1234
      @perkl1234 3 роки тому +19

      Magnus is the first player in modern history that I feel treats chess more like sport and less like science. He plays these strange opening choices in order to capitalize on his own strengths as a player, rather than trying to find the theoretically "correct" or "best" opening, if that makes sense. And he is undoubtedly one of the greatest ambassadors of chess to ever live, second to maybe only Kasparov. No one can ever beat Kasparovs Deep Blue moment.

  • @laurieprice535
    @laurieprice535 3 роки тому +5

    I am now a fan of Hikaru,thoroughly entertained by this excellent presentation

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 10 місяців тому

      He's an ignoramus about non chess topics

  • @kc4276
    @kc4276 8 місяців тому +1

    I can’t even play chess (nor do I watch it at all - this video just popped up in my feed), but even I know just about everything about Anand’s career. He was/is absolutely massive in India.

  • @prateekkamath0
    @prateekkamath0 Рік тому +3

    8:52 - The Indian Chess Legend Vishwanathan Anand👑🌟

  • @scuderia7683
    @scuderia7683 3 роки тому +125

    Hikaru said he doesn't know much about Akiba then proceeds to talk about him so much 😂😂

  • @TheIkaist
    @TheIkaist 3 роки тому +71

    Hikaru : Anand got a country of Billion people interested in chess.
    Also Hikaru/(His editor) : Puts Anand in the Thumbnail 😏

  • @MUFFINHEAD1985
    @MUFFINHEAD1985 3 роки тому +2

    I don't have a clue about how to even set up a chess board but watching these vids are like watching the history of the Sith and Jedis.

  • @mrmathh3680
    @mrmathh3680 Рік тому +1

    48:15 now we know where hans got the "chess speaks for itself" quote from.

  • @abhisheknegi1794
    @abhisheknegi1794 3 роки тому +4

    12:20 remind me of Anand interview with Shekhar Gupta. Where Gupta shares his story of meeting Kasparov

  • @Ex-Muslim342
    @Ex-Muslim342 3 роки тому

    Congrats 🎊🍾🎉🎈 🥳 on 1M subscribers

  • @SaurabhShukla_22
    @SaurabhShukla_22 20 днів тому +1

    a way to describe Anand in India would be like this :
    until recently people didn't know Anand as a chess player, but chess as a game which was played by someone called Viswanathan Anand at International level

  • @acerimmerz
    @acerimmerz 3 роки тому +4

    one thing for sure is that India takes it's sports very seriously and always inspired by champions - Anand to chess is almost as of legend to Sachin Tendulkar is to cricket, and Sachin was nicknamed 'god' so perfectly apt

  • @gyanendramaurya2082
    @gyanendramaurya2082 3 роки тому +79

    Anand is also having impact on hikaru's youtube view 😂

  • @wowyogi
    @wowyogi Рік тому +2

    At an age 50+, is a serious contender in any tournament in any format and routinely beats top 10 players whenever he plays. Belongs to the absolute top apart from his contributions to Indian chess. Also a gentleman champion in the likes of Botvinnik, Spassky, Karpov and Kramnik. No drama, just chess!!!

  • @rajeevkunapareddy1182
    @rajeevkunapareddy1182 3 роки тому

    honestly, its true that anand inspired many people into chess here in india. in fact, I and my dad got into chess while discussing a bit about him and kasparov

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 3 роки тому +5

    Those categories were really not sufficient. They needed another category labeled something like "world championship challenger" for guys like Chigorin, Zukertort, Schlechter, Bogolyubov, Karjakin, Korchnoi, (maybe) Caruana, etc.
    Some world champions were not ranked number one consistently either before, during or after they were world champion, such as Tigran Petrosian. Spassky was ranked behind Fischer for nearly the entire period from the mid 1960s until well after Fischer quit playing in late 1972. Same with Petrosian.
    Max Euwe was also weaker than Alekhine even though he defeated him in their first match.
    Kramnik was weaker than Kasparov although he won the match between them.

  • @AAYLV
    @AAYLV 3 роки тому +25

    You also should have a category for magicians, like Nezhemedinov, Tal etc.

  • @allthatjazz-7
    @allthatjazz-7 2 роки тому

    Reuben Fine was Euwe's second! in the world championship! He won the US Open or similar, etc many times. He was a top 10 player in the 1930's no doubt. Theorist sounds reasonable, slightly underated him I think. Chess moved so fast at that time. In 1938 he was top class indeed, maybe the best even. It would've been very close, very little separated these players at that exact point.

  • @SpeakingCommonSense
    @SpeakingCommonSense 3 роки тому

    I'm just a regular guy that was checking out a chess video.
    This Hikaru guy is proof you can be amazingly smart and still socially inadequate.

  • @zack1140
    @zack1140 3 роки тому +33

    Alternative title: Chat typing PogO for 53 minutes straight

  • @adebih8126
    @adebih8126 3 роки тому +15

    magnus, bobby and kasparov are in the league of their own

    • @joshuagarcia5007
      @joshuagarcia5007 3 роки тому +1

      You forgot mikhail tal

    • @nubianpwr
      @nubianpwr 3 роки тому +1

      @@joshuagarcia5007 Absolutely - Tal was genius... along with Bobby and Magnus

    • @donkbonktj5773
      @donkbonktj5773 Рік тому +1

      @@nubianpwr Sure Tal was a creative attacking player, but his moves were not as accurate as Fischer and Magnus.

    • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
      @user-bk9fk2tq2z 3 місяці тому

      Morphy is there alongside Fischer, Carlsen and Kasparov.

  • @sandipanchatterjee5017
    @sandipanchatterjee5017 8 місяців тому +1

    Man I’m really happy that someone talked about Dibyendu Barua..even Indians don’t know his name!!!

  • @brianjanson3498
    @brianjanson3498 3 роки тому +14

    How can you not recognize Alekhine? He was not only one of the best, but was notorious. I've known his face since I was a teenager.

  • @cyrusvanbeethoven4626
    @cyrusvanbeethoven4626 3 роки тому +14

    Where's the second half of the Video? I wanna see Morphy, Tal, and Chuky get analyzed!!

  • @user-bm9cv9vn2k
    @user-bm9cv9vn2k 3 роки тому +6

    Chucky, Morphy, Capablanca, Anand, Big Vlad, Hikaru, Agad rank is what I was excited. Magnus Bobby obvious.

    • @armyguy196
      @armyguy196 3 роки тому

      It should have been obvious but Magnus was underrated.

  • @shaunbang
    @shaunbang 3 роки тому +9

    “He choked on a chicken bone” was so funny 😂

  • @iBMcFly
    @iBMcFly 10 місяців тому +1

    Ranked(ordered within tier)
    Tier 1: Capa, Bobby, Gary, Botvinnik, Magnus
    Tier 2: Alekhine, Karpov, Lasker, Anand