Are DUTCH people SPONTANEOUS?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Are Dutch people spontaneous?
Or do they plan everything?
How about the agenda? Do you need one, when living in the Netherlands?
Can you visit someone, without calling in advance?
These questions we asked to foreigners/expats in the Netherlands.
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There should be a new episode where Dutch people are reacting to these comments.
That's actually a very good idea! I'll think about it!
@@LearndutchOrg Nouja laat me weten! Ik ben wel geïnteresseerd:)
I would love to see that! My bf in many ways is very untypical Dutch guy. He likes to live according to his mood but he is considered a bit weird in his family :D I think!
Ja doe dat aub dat is super leuk
Jaaa leuk!!
i never used an agenda , dont scheer us all over de kam
willem, wanneer gaan we weer iets K O N O L I S E R E N?
ik voel me hierdoor niet meer aangesproken. Int algemeen klopt het gewoon
#metoo
@@Luukboekhoud ik sta altijd paraat
@@willemalexander5460 Ja echt wie heeft nou weer een agenda
I stayed in the Netherlands for almost a month some years ago. I remember I left with the impression that, generally speaking, they like to have control of their time. I would say they expect things to be or work in a certain manner/time and if it doesn't, that would annoy them. They seemed to be all about predictability. I joked with my Dutch friend and told her: you guys are not super flexible. And she said: You haven't seen Germans! 😂
So true!
I really do not recognise the dinner thing. If a friend or family member is (still) in my house around dinner time I will always, always invite them. It's up to them if they like to stay or not. If I didn't make enough for 2, 3, 4 etc I either become creative with a salad or garlic bread, extra desert with fruit... or just order in. (When I lived next to a supermarket a few years back it was even easier, though now that I don't I realise even more what a luxury that was... sigh, miss my old house). And I have a below average income due to illness, so it's not about not having to worry about money either. Who ARE these people who say "we are going to eat now" and then expect their friends to leave??!
Are you Dutch, ma'am? And if so, what city are you from? :)
Because that's the kind of people I want to be around. 😄
So true...While dating a Greek man I realized how over-scheduled most people are (including myself). I realized it very clearly when I called my best friend to arrange for coffee or dinner and her answer was: would you be available in two months from now on exactly this date and time? I felt like: what the hell, why can't we just meet this week?
these people:
“Yeah all dutch people are so organized”
Me: * picks a random shirt of the ground every morning *
Someone asks me if im aveilable on a certain day:
Me: im probably free then. Ill call if otherwise
same. I hate planning everything. Don't ask me for something small 2 weeks in advance. My reply is: I don't know, probably.
I only plan my work and things like dinners and concerts etc.
If i wanna hang out with Friends i just call them ask wanna hang out? And 1h later I'm hanging out with the Friends.
But i must say i hate uninvited visitors. Don't ring on my bell before letting me know. I will act like I'm not home 😅
I love living by my agenda. Particularly when I watch 'ik vertrek' and see that for example builders are not showing up on projects, I just love that people here are more strict about time. Wouldn't want it any other way.
we're not only talkin about work here.
@@galaxyride4944 I know, it's great. Basically planning works for everything 😉.
I would hate to see family just popping by to see how it goes. Don't get me wrong I love my family but just give me a call upfront.
k weirdo
Foreigners especially from meditaranian countries have the reputation of being unrelieble . That is what the dutch think. It is of course a cultural difference and as we meet more foreigners we become more accostomed to their culture and even start AND Copy part of the meditaranian life-style.
@@FreekVerkerk what.. ? Half our country was build by foreigners
Another insightful, and amusing episode. Thanks!
Tiffany from Costa Rica can come to my house spontaneously anytime she wants.
They talk about a certain type of people and maybe even more about a specific generation. Most of my friends don't even have an agenda, let alone they plan by the hour. Most things go by ear.
Kinda sad. It is something useful and unique to dutch people, what a shame it's being lost
Hoi Nederlanders en buitenlanders.
Ik ben Spaanse en ik ben nooit in Nederland geweest. So I can't really talk about Dutch behaviour, but I think that it depends more on the region, province and families you meet. It's the same in Spain. You'll find very open-minded and sweet people in Andalusia, but they're colder in northern provinces. I guess that Dutch people from the bigger cities and the Amsterdam area need to be more practical and they plan all their events as they might be "druk, druk, druk", but southern towns tend to live more calmly and enjoy the moment, specially after work.
Apart from this, I find it very nice and appropriate because organizing everything allow people to know exactly what to do and it is more unlikely to bother other people because they share their plans too. In my opinion, Spanish are a totally mess. It's quite difficult for me to meet my friends because they're quite unpredictable. I had a friend that called me when she was already going out, whereas I was about to have dinner. I couldn't just get dressed better and leave my parents like that. She never said things in advance, so our friendship didn't last too much. And I had other friends who told me to go out, but the night before it or the same morning, then they said that they couldn't. There was always something that spoiled everything, so I decided to stay on my own. Now I only go out with my parents. I got tired of these stupid messy people. Other interesting topic is about visiting others at home. There are lots of Spanish people who just don't mind if you suddenly appear, but I'm against it. My education is different and I find quite rude if someone knocks at the door and they have the intention to come in and eat. They don't think that maybe I just want to rest, or maybe I'm about to go shopping, or it's possible that I can't offer an appropriate lunch or dinner because I don't have much to eat. It's also like breaking in my intimacy at home. I'm sorry, but if someone just comes without calling me first, I won't let them come in. I won't open the door. I'm more Dutch than the real Dutch. I don't use any agendas, but I have everything controlled in my mind or in those little sticky notes which I put on the fridge. Nowadays, I don't think people uses agendas as everything can be kept in phone notes or calendar.
That being said, I think that my personality would fit in well in The Netherlands. Another thing: I thought that students would talk about spontaneous language and Dutch sense of humour. Although I have read in other comments that Dutch are "robotic people" in actions, I think that they're very spontaneous when they talk. They have a very special sense of humour and they're creative in conversations. They can surprise you with a joke or tease you badly. Ans it's sometimes difficult to know if they're kidding or if they are serious because they can be very sarcastic. If the conversation is online, then it's harder to know as you can't see their faces or hear their voice tone. But I like it a lot. It's funny. Maybe it would be great to create another video about Dutch sense of humour and jokes.
Gefeliciteerd voor deze video. Het was erg leuk. Liefs. 😍😘
Mand
@@edwardvd406 Het spijt me dat ik jouw antwoord kan niet begrijpen. Can you explain it to me, please? 🙂
@@cristina_garcia dutch meme after long story
@@edwardvd406 hahaha I imagine that my comments are hard to read as they're always so long... I sometimes get tired myself of writing. And thanks for telling the meaning. I have still many things to learn about Dutch sense of humour. It is very special, but I don't get it in some cases. After explanations, I usually laugh a lot. 😅🤣
Who are these dutch people they're talking about
Goblin Slaya hahahhahahahaha
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
Obviously ppl interviewed not native Dutch speakers but the Point is non-native Dutch speaker talk bout Dutch behavior or costumes. That’s what makes this kinda video interesting
I was thinking the same thing having lived there and being kiwi...
@@Bas_ssss No shit, mate. I was talking about Who are those people who look in their agenda and are so strict about their time
Me🤣😭
I'm Dutch. But haven't touched my planner in years. Dat ding ligt ik een hoekje onder een hoopje stof😂😂😂. Maar ik ben ook wel de slechtste planner ooit😅
I like that quality of being able to stay in a moment because you have planned. In America, most bigger cities do the agenda life style, while in small towns it's more of the flow of life and not as much scheduled. Both have positives and negatives.
Im brazilian and i just found out I live my live in the dutch way
I guess this agenda thing is the cause that lots of people live lonely, and many accompanied people feel alone, because there is no time to new people in our life, as all the time is booked for something or someone we already know.
In my personal opinion plans for work, family and friends are fine, but there must be a gap in our lives that are open to a spontaneousness... Why not to plan for that time too?...
We will be like: After dinner I have daily 2 hours free - or - my Saturdays until 17:00 PM are always open...
So we let some (rustig) relaxing time for us open, where we can do whatever we feel like doing that moment, meet new people or try new things and be more open to feel belonging as going to a museum speak to a stranger and have the time to go for coffee with him/her...
Maybe when I came first to Netherlands this was my impression (robotic people) I even thought they are rude to give me an appointment, after 3 weeks or for the next month, I don't want to offend anyone, I guess the culture and habits speaks for what is the area and atmosphere. But I still strongly believe we can always try to perfect it... ;)
Klopt helemaal, toen ik in Portugal verbleef met werk sprak je geleidelijk aan steeds snel af met mensen, hier in Nederland vraag je je vrienden over 3-6 weken
1:05 if you're sick and you really need help but it's not that urgent, you have to call early in the morning to make a doctor's appointment that same day. Dutch GP's, as far as I know, leave a few time slots open so that people who need urgent help (but not urgent enough for an ambulance) can get an appointment within a few hours max. Then if the doctor says it's urgent enough, you can be referred to the nearest hospital that same day or a few days later, depending on the urgency
If you are actually dying you can always call 112, from any phone and free of charge, even from another country's emergency number because a lot of those are put through to the emergency responders as well. Even if it says you're out of the service area, emergency calls are generally put though the nearest network available
Appointments are made so doctors can help as many people as possible in a day, and they may be annoying but it's not like you'll be left to die without one. If you feel yourself getting worse call ahead of time, and if you're suddenly struck with needing urgent help call the emergency number. These guys make it sound like Dutch doctors refuse to help sick and even dying people without an appointment, and that's just not true
Carlouge well, Dutch doctors are overworked too, it’s been in the news quite a lot this year 😉
This channel is great, enjoying it a lot
I work different shifts. So for me it's extra important to plan. Because tomorrow I might have early shift. Or I can't meet up because I have evening shift. It's handy to plan everything and I like to know what my day is going to be like.
I'm dutch myself so it's safe for me to say the majority of the dutch are not spontaneous. I hate the fact that in this country everything needs to be planned in advance. Always you have to put out this stupid agenda, visiting someone or going out spontaneously is simply not done. And it's also correct that when it's about dinner time, dutch people always say they have to eat which actually means they want you to leave.
Luckily I'm also Indo and with most Indo's it's perfectly fine to come by unannounced and when that happens to be around dinnertime, there's always a place at the table and enough to eat 😊
If you tinkthe dutch care about their planning, you should go to germany :D You have to make an appointment a month in advance only to get a cup of coffe with them. I've lived in Germany for 7 years and everything they said in this video sounds much more like Germans to me than Dutch. I feel like it is not that strict at all in the Netherlands..
Work hard party even harder.
Welcome to the Netherlands.
Planning? What is that? Can you eat that? Can you wear it?
I don't plan too far ahead even if I'm Dutch, I just don't bother as I can't be bothered with planning too much.
However in case of a trip I do try to plan way in advance to make sure I don't forget something that may cause trouble for me or others.
Also I don't like surprises that end up ruining my day after a careful planning, so why would I bother too much?
I don't like to over plan everything like so many others in the Netherlands do, just can't stand that kind of thing. There is no shame in being more free, it allows you to enjoy life a lot better.
At lunch/dinner I couldn't give a damn if you are there or not, I will be eating regardless. If you wish to join me you should at least tell me in advance so I can make sure there is something you can eat. It would be awkward if you stayed to eat and there was not enough or nothing at all. So yeah, in that regard it is rather useful to know in advance what is going to happen.
1:52 this *is* how it is in the Netherlands if you’re in the right places. But people in the city tend to do not like it.
We just walk in via the backdoor.
I use a agenda because I am befriend in multiple social groups. From sporting to school/work groups but even with friends of my best friends. So to be aware of when every meeting is happening (or cancel one if there is already one planned) its more than useful to use a agenda. Otherwise life would be chaotic.
Why would you need an agenda for sports? Aren't they recurring events that you can remember? I understand the rest tho, except for friends that's still kinda weird to me
@@Bolognabeef nope, matches aren't weekly on the same day/time. Its can even occure during training times. Besides I give a training to a team which can also have a match during training times.
I'm half Dutch but I just plan time that is "open" that way you have both intention and spontaneity. Het is gezellig :)
This video isn’t related to every Dutchie tho. I’m a student who lives nearby Amsterdam and studies in Amsterdam. But i dont have an agenda to keep track of everything. I’d rather do everything last minute and have fun with my friends than having everything organized and don’t meet up with my friends for a week for example. I’d rather enjoy live even though i don’t have the time for it.
I think the examples are quite extreme, they might have workaholic colleagues/friends. But also, I’d rather plan a bit more than forgetting I was supposed to meet someone. It’s just good manners to respect the appointment you made with someone and do your best to meet them.
So true..
I have a Dutch friend ,and she can send me an audio to say sorry for not listening to my first watsapp audios yet, but then promises to get time for them soon .
And another texts me to give me a call appointment on weekend at a given time.
Before seemed wierd but am now used and like how programmed they can be.
As a Dutch person I do that to my foreign friend too. Didn't realize that wasn't normal.
@@TheDesius it's rare, and seems rude and pride to most people from other countries. But maybe they love it with time too.just as I did
as a dutch man I wonder what kind of insanely organized people they have met
if you ask me you should change your friends most people i know here are too lazy to plan their days and basicly if anything fun comes up they will drop anything irrelavent at the drop of a hat.
the exeptions being romantic dates and/or parties including birthdays, and of course when you're working you cant plan with friends.
so find new friends lads yours are pretending to be big shots who have no time or they just don't like you and make excuses lol
Marco Aussems ouch, haha, but true!
My Wife is from the Netherlands. Born there but Dutch/Indo. So she’s organized but she’s on Island time. She’s been raised here since 7. Thus she’s a bit Western,and a bit Eastern. I’m always confused by her thinking due to being an American and quite western. ha ha
I keep seeing this 'agenda' thing on this channel but honestly I've never experienced any of this and I"m Dutch. Maybe it's an Amsterdam thing, I'm guessing all these people only live in Holland, which is known for cold and rude people even by us in the south.
I stood in Zoetermeer about 3 months and the ones I met didn't have that agenda thing, so as you say, maybe is an Amsterdam thing.
Im from amsterdam and i do not know a single person who uses an agenda for personal plans 😂😂 its ridiculous
I think it's more a generation thing.
Ja man lekker generaliseren
My boyfriend is Dutch and I’m from Russia x)) so he was getting so pissed when we were late all the time at the very beginning when I was in Holland and I couldn’t understand why xD he explained its not how things work in Holland, we plan everything, we have to be on time etc. :D
Als ik dit hoor "ik heb geen tijd want me agenda" zeg ik meteen de groeten.
I even call my sister if she has time for coffee, lol. Mostly after I walked the dogs. I live a few minutes from her. I hardly ever just drop in.
Actually, it makes more sense, dropping by anyone's home without prior notice is going to either make them uncomfortable or you will end up not seeing them.
Nothing to do with this but I’m korean and the shirt... I an’t stop laughing😂😂😂
What's on it? I'm sure the guy doesn't have a clue. It looks cool though....
I'm also wondering what it says. It looks cool.
Lived in the Netherlands and it's so true.
NL poeple are innerlijk & they mean inner. Dank u wel mijnheer. Met zeer vriendelijke groet, Yasin Jafari Chofe, Heerenveen-Friesland-'t Koninkrijk der Nederlanden
My colleagues often used to ask what my plans were for the weekend. I very rarely had plans, the Dutch just don't understand that.
I like doing things on my own so that would suit me.
I never use my agenda, of someone asks me if i can hangout or something i’ll be like “oh yeah i think i can” and then i’m here at my house my mom is home and she’ll be like “why is you’re friend here!? You still need to study for that toets!!” and then she is like “go away” “she still needs to study” “mabye another time” i mean i can always like study the next day
I as a dutch person i personally can't and hate planning..
This whole episode is about agenda's, not whether the dutch are spontaneous, I get it is part of the answer, but come on this a bit of a one sided answer
1:10 If you are dying, the ER is the best place to go to, not your GP without an appointment.
That dude Arnold from the USA could be Bob Odenkirks brother.
Het klopt wel gewoon. Je kan niet gewoon langskomen zonder dat een paar mensen geestelijk in paniek raken.
I'm dutch, and I do have a agenda, and yes I do write things in that. But do I look after what I need to do? NO! I just forget that I wrote that down 😂
Of course ,Agenda is about taking note whats important like having an appointment in dentist,of course i dont want to “krijkg boete if i forget it that date!
P.s i think these people on vedio is not 100 percent accurate about the Netherland.Even its just small country but the customs and tradition is depend which province you living.Its variates.,Buitenlander must accept the fact that dutch is dutch.You have to intergrate and adjust bcos dutch and The Netherland will not adjust for u!
SNAP HET?
:) groetjes!
i open my facebook at work, and bring extra work at home
To me it seems inefficient to drive half an hour in order to visit my grandma just to find out that she's not home.
For countries where other cities are at least 2 hours away a half hour is nothing.
That’s not what she had in mind. Either you play the fool or you’re narrow minded. People only fo that when living in the same area.
The Dutch are very keen on their 'privacy'. You just can't barge in. That's the core of the issue
Do they have a plan though?
Ben al meer dan 50 jaar Nederlander, nog nooit een agenda gehad.....
Spanish dude can't plan three days in advance. No, we all know, Spanish dude can't plan ten minutes in advance. The only reason this one got up to three days is his time in NL.
lol
I'm Dutch, what's all this stuff about an agenda? 😂 I guess I'm Dutching wrong.
Lol I'm Dutch and it's very relatable
Ok, we're not THAT pünktlich, I don't know anybody that plans every hour ahead.
Niet alle Nederlanders zijn zo, maar sommige wel.
By being organised we get many things done in a day. We can not drop work because you are hungry. Get a job also and you'll see what I mean.
I laughed out loud when I saw the first question. Because the answer is obviously NO. And I am just as guilty as any other Dutch person. We like to know what when happends. Just being prepared. But also quiet boring for my taste.
Is that a country or Gulag? :D
TL/DR : yes
Sometines we are spontaan, sometimes we plannen, just like the whole planet.
Conclusion: Dutch people may be seen as `not spontaneous' by people who are terribly inefficient.
Non-sense, I have planned to be spontaneous between 18:00 and 20:00 next Monday!
@@ronrolfsen3977 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those people realy should be out of amsterdam. What a bs what they say here. I life in Zwolle and if you are here at my place and it is dinner time you always can stay. Calling if anybody is home? Nope just go there.
I live very close to Zwolle (15 minute drive) and here people don't just go to your home, you call first most of the time and people don't spontaniously stay for dinner that often because they feel obligated to go home i guess. It just depends in what kind of family you where born in i guess
that Russian woman sounds/looks like she's dutch
I don’t like visitors either... and then I wonder why no one stops by... lol.
I don't see any problem with this level of planning.
People who fail to plan, plan to fail
De laatse keer dat ik in een agenda gekeken heb is, nou ja letterlijk nooit.
Zelfs niet 37 jaar geleden op school.
so what you do let your kids alone? say to your mom i am coming and not do it?
Tfw you never have to plan appointments due to a lack of friends
3:20 oh hell yes we do😂😂
Altijd druk druk druk ja😂
I am Dutch but I don’t have an agenda. I don’t want to conform, I have an ulterior agenda...
Zehebben het hier voornamelijk over de steden en dan niet eens alle steden maar alleen de ra dstad voornamelijk. En niet de platsen om de randstad! Dus nee niet helemaal zoals het is
I dont have a agenda and i am Dutch sooo...
This is bullshit lol, im dutch and i guess this depends on what part of Netherlands you are. Me and all my friends always do totally random things and spontaneously go out or for a drive anything, we dont like to plan things at all. I guess the kakker/nerd/formal type of persons live like that
Please ask the following question to the students: "Are the Dutch LGBTQ+ friendly?"
More friendly
hell no
What I wanna really know is ‘ why many Dutch people are over-planning?’ 😁
When I worked full time I always used an agenda but now that I am retired no need for one. But then now I don’t know what day it is half the time
It's nice not having to disappoint someone by forgetting that you already have a date when agreeing a new one. I guess it happens a lot with the spanish guy.
@@Harry_PP030 Yes, you're right. I'm Spanish and it's quite difficult for me to meet my friends because they're quite unpredictable. I had a friend that called me when she was already going out, whereas I was about to have dinner. I couldn't just get dressed better and leave my parents like that. She never said things in advance, so our friendship didn't last too much. And I had other friends who told me to go out, but the night before it, then they said that they couldn't. There was always something that spoiled everything, so I decided to stay on my own. Now I only go out with my parents. I got tired of these stupid messy people. Dutch are much better in this sense.
Harry's youtube making so much sense!😊
Ben ik dan echt de enige zonder agenda??😅😅😅
For what it's worth I have lost all interest in these videos that keep framing Dutch people or society as being quirky or odd in some way, through the lens of foreigners' experience.
I am beyond confused this is painfully inaccurate.
Gewoon niet..?
if you're dying you call 112 lol.
🇳🇱 gekoloniseerd 🇳🇱
Ik ken niemand die dat doet
No ...not at all!
The only thing I write in my agenda is what shift I have to work that day... may occur frequently that I forget appointments, whoops.