Nigel Farage vs Alastair Campbell on Brexit
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2018
- We're joined by Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage in Strasbourg and People's Vote campaigner Alastair Campbell. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
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Why isn’t Alastair Campbell and Tony BLiar in prison?
6 inquiries 6 times cleared of any wrongdoing, use your brain
This whole theatre was done for sole one reason: to make the public so tired and uncertain, that they accept staying in the EU without riots.
Yep thats a big part of the plan APATHY it will not work this is our freedom literally
And what's your riots going to achieve Randall...
100% agree.
@x x Irrelevant.
@@T4Cification Learn to read. He didn't say he wanted riots. He said this was done to avoid them. And what will riots achieve? Ask Macron.
This is fast heading towards civil unrest.
Only the British can destroy the UK.
No its not cluster b! Most of the UK now see Brexit as foolish. They have woken up.
@Gerry nevermind TELL ME WHY ?
If we hold another vote before the first vote has been honoured, then we are not democratic.
If we are forced to remain in the EU, then we are not sovereign.
For the retards who think this is a brilliant idea, then heed John F. Kennedy's words: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Czar Zenana No the hated EU and British establishment have already destroyed it. A British dictatorship is now inevitable and so is rearmament. War war war war
Farage says "you cannot keep on lying to the people" but Ukip could 350 million pounds per week for the NHS
1. The message on the side of the bus was the campaign that Nigel was not a member of. It was 'Vote leave', led by Boris Johnson. 2. The message on the bus was "let's spend it on the NHS." As it was neither a promise nor a statement of intent, it cannot be a lie. It was a suggestion.
The Irony that Alistair Campbell is representing the people. Pull the other one...
The Daily Groove - Well he is representing the people who aren’t stupid!
Representing the minority
I think we need to see a draft treaty from Nigel Farage. The problem with the referendum is it asked an idealistic question with no detail on how it would be implemented. Now there are multiple versions of what that could be, and everyone is claiming that their version is the 'will of the people'. Give us a draft treaty and ask the people again what they want!
We were told, you can leave the EU whenever you want. All you have to do is vote on it. Well we voted on it and we voted to leave. Its very simple.
Carl 123 Things are always very simple when you have no idea how they work.
Yep… I've no idea how quantum mechanics work but it seems so easy, anyone could do it. Same with trade deals (easiest things in the world), tariffs (just a one-page summary, please), diplomacy, security, citizens' rights, workers' rights, environmental protection…
Farage:" You didn't accept the results the first time so why should we believe you (for the second)?
Campbell: (Silence)
Alastair Campbell (spin master) struggles
Well , like we said sold out yet again , she has not complied with any of the
Wishes of the majority the British people. Sad day for democracy.
There was never a plan. Still isnt. You gettin it yet?
You know when these two names are in the title its going to be a good video :p
Alastair says nigel never had a plan after brexit well Tony blair and alastair never had a pan when they open the borders
Why is this man Alister Campbell being interviewed, he had his time with Tony Blair and is the most untrustworthy person on this planet . I cannot understand how he is being interviewed by Channel 4. Could they not find someone else who has a better reputation than Campbell.
Campbell does have a point. You shouldn't make big life-changing decisions without a plan. And you shouldn't go against the democratic will of the people.
Like say, Iraq, you mean?
Here here sir
Say no to Gina Miller. Say no to Sadiq Khan. Say no to Alastair Campbell. Say no to Tony Blair. SAY NO TO REMAIN
Alister Campbell is an even lower form of life than Jeremy Kyle.
And that is saying something
One question : If remain had won the vote 52 - 48 would we discussing the possibility of a second referendum based on the closeness of the result.
no because remain wasnt a terrible idea, leaving was
@@jams7449 what do you expect when remainers were negotiating for the majority of the time?
How is Brexit working for you now eh Nigel😂😂😂
Fine thanks, lefty
@@russianbear6384 LOL! yeah Brexit working exactly as intended for Russia, shame theyve fucked it on every other aspect.
'Not governed by a bunch of men in Brussels'. No, some Tory gammons instead.
we elected those, those in brussels aren't elected. see the difference
Alastair got a strong point about Nigel.
Allistair Campbell is completely right. Vote again on the terms of Brexit.... or to have it at all.
Campbell is slime.
And Farage is poo, now where does that leave you?
it leaves you in a world where politics is devoid of integrity. it may take a while for you to grasp what that means.
@@fkgrgeg And BoJo, Mogg, Villiers, Duncan Smith, Gove Davies all hide behind Mays skirts when they aren't wearing their own!
Farage just did his job, got paid by Putin and will be moving to Germany, nothing to complain about, smart man.
Arturas P farage has been campaigning for leave way before putin was around ! He believes in exiting the Eu, that’s all !!
If we asked the people if they wanted a million pounds in crisp tenners each I’m pretty sure they would say yes. Some questions should not be asked.
Why doesnt those that want to remain have a plan as well. Both sides need to come up with a plan not just one side.
Nigel owned him in this debate. Surprised Channel 4 posted it tbh
Alastair says nigel never had a plan after brexit well Tony blair and alastair never had a pan when they open the borders
@@ravd8082
This is what happens when people trust a snake oil salesman who doesn't even understand basic economics and an electorate who is so ill-informed and narcissistic, that they believe they know better than people who have been studying this for most of their lives. Brexit has destroyed British business, not European ones, farmers are struggling to cope, Lorry drivers are up to their neck with paperwork, it has also shrunk our economy by 4% wiping away £100bn a year. Nigel never detailed how Brexit would work, he never had a plan for it, so many Brexiteers had their own version of Brexit and they all said the same thing, "its the will of the people". Yet here we are now, where most people who voted for Brexit are regretting it.
John snow was having a quick ciggy during this debate!
I hate snow nearly as much as i hate campbell.
Why is it always those two together
Remorons EVERYWHERE!
get a yellow top
Lol - I'll tell Chip shop Dave & Auntie Vera - she can throw a mean zimmer frame
Brexit is simple, the eu is comprised by the single market, customs union and the European court of justice. Leaving the EU is leaving those three structures, that is Brexit. End of story.
Harry Hicks Things are always very simple when you have no idea how they work.
Yep… I've no idea how quantum mechanics work but it seems so easy, anyone could do it. Same with trade deals (easiest things in the world), tariffs (just a one-page summary, please), diplomacy, security, citizens' rights, workers' rights, environmental protection…
Gary Barrett don’t condescend mate, it’s my opinion if you don’t like it, tough, we survived before the EU formed and we can if we leave it.
@@harryhicks1142 We have never left the EU before and all experts forecast negative consequences of leaving
A Person these same experts who forecast an immediate recession and direct loss of 500,000 jobs from simply a vote to leave the EU, I’ll take these predictions with a pinch of salt, I believe in a democracy where we have complete control of our affairs, wars have been fought for democracy, not to see it handed over to a small group of people in the EU.
@@harryhicks1142 No those predictions were never made you have twisted the facts as usual. Many of their predictions have come true and for you to dismiss experts is very arrogant. We have never had control directly as we have a system of representative democracy. Also if you truly believe in democracy then lets ask the people again that if after all this new information has come to light they are still sure they want to leave the EU.
Would this mess not be sorted if the "Brexit means Brexit" team published a paper stating the exact way things would work if they did the negotiations? I for one would be willing to consider it. Then we can take this to the EU and say these are our negotiation points. But at the moment we just have opposition to the tabled plan and no alternative.
I hear one more time 'we will be leaving the single market ' - will throw up
Why should anybody believe Alastair Campbell? He is unable to answer that the question himself.
why does Nigel not have a plan? Nigel was quiete when he got the question? So why does Nigel not have a plan when he wanted this.
If these two are not arguing on itv they're arguing everywhere else 😂
This was a good show, I miss it.
Nigel totally misses the point of a peoples vote .... it isnt a second Brexit referendum, it is a vote on the deal - which I think most people would want
I don't know how these people sleep of a night we voted leave so leave
Pleased with your handiwork? What biased phrasing!
Interesting that when they want to offer a 2nd Referendum they never present the idea of a vote between these 2 things: May's Deal or No Deal. However, no one's suggesting that because it's not the answer or solution they want. That's what a 2nd referendum should be asking, not the same question again. So if people vote Brexit again, what then? Then they are back to square one. Brexit was democratically decided. The only question is how to go about it now. End of discussion.
Remember when C4 news was considered amongst the best news programs?
Previously when these two argued Farage shouted all over Campbell. Farage said "countries were queuing up, queuing up to give Britain trade deals" . That was two years ago. Since then, all the major trading countries and most minor ones have said they will not be offering the UK trade agreements until the UK has settled it's position with Europe, our easily largest trading partners. Trade consultants and diplomats say this would take easily 7 years and is far more complicated than the withdrawal agreement which is incomplete after 3 years. Noe of this is sustainable.
Alastair Campbell canvassing for a "people's" vote. If that doesn't make you laugh nothing will. This man showed nothing but disdain for democracy in his time as chief liar for Blair.
I guess we will find out how this aged in 4 days!
Campbell will cause public unrest up the yellow coats
7:01 priceless.
Nigel, MEP for 20 years 150k euro annual salary, half German , half French , against the immigrants, his kids have EU passports 🙈😄😎😄. And the brits still like him 😄🙈😄🙈🙈🙈😄😄.
Why is it that the "LEAVE" team have presented no paper on exactly what they will do?
Because they never expected to actually win
@@amonmetalhead7034 That was in 2016, they have had plenty of time since.
Especially with the NI-Ireland border issue! Based on the AG advice that was the main issue with TM withdrawal deal. If leavers came up with a responsible, easy to implement plan to prevent a hard border, then this whole mess wouldn't be happening. Instead people like JRM want us to use technology that we haven't even developed yet.
There has been plenty! The website brexit central has much of it there. The brexiteers are not negotiating with the eu. The remain government is. The plan is canada FTA or no deal WTO simple
They have.
It is not what the ruling elite want though.
Canada plus FTA
Or WTO
There is no solution to North IRELAND
@@davelong9055 how about allowing the UK to join the United republic's of Britain and Ireland?
@@davelong9055 Sorry mate, It'll be the United Celtic States of Scotland, N Ireland, Ireland, Parts of Wales, Cornwall. The UK will be no more. Bye now and isn't Karma so sweet!
@@malahammer No more British Isles 'unions' thank you. Independence for all (except Northern Ireland which should reunite with Eire) with a free trade agreement.
@@davelong9055 WTF!! England Anglo Saxon ...i.e GERMAN, along with Viking, Norman and French and lets not forget all the recent commonwealth migrations.....so please....stop being silly!
@@davelong9055 You're getting worse....."English immigration into Ireland, Wales and Scotland" you do mean invasion, land grabbing, ethic cleansing and in the case of Ireland genocide to grab even more land and get rid of the scruffy, dirty, smelly, uneducated, drunken, inferior and Catholic Irish men and women. "Immigration" into Ireland, Wales and Scotland me bollox! It was the Irish that immigrated into England. Today, millions of residents of Great Britain are either from Ireland or have Irish ancestry. It is estimated that as many as six million people living in the UK have at least one Irish grandparent (around 10% of the UK population).
Alastair nails it ‘where’s your plan?’ Nigel has supposedly fought for 25 years to leave the EU and yet still no plan. To sum up ‘brexit means brexit’ is Nigel Farage in a nutshell, empty, irrelevant and cowardice.
Ask Cambell a reasonable question.
Get the answer to a completely different unrelated question.
There's something very strange about people who constantly blink.
Nigel wasn’t asked to provide options ? If fact he should have been special advisor because he knows how Europe works but the political elite ignores him and us
"Was one I fought for 25 years"
What a complete waste of 25 years...
be serious , or shut up
@Jack Archer well said sir, 100 per cent agree with you
Considering he won? Not really a waste.
Both sides lied, keep it moving and stop being divisive, thats what they want. To divide us and then conquer us. Like the argument here is going to change anything kmt
@@peffiSC2source Did you just say the interests of these interest groups coincided with the interests of the majority of the British people?
George Soros must be an angel to you.
"It's the Brexit... it's the Brexit... it's the Brexit." Nigel Farage, 2018
What happens next if we have another referendum. You cant keep having referendums until you get what certain people want.
Wasn't the brexit vote "not legally binding" a kind of opinion pool? Normally referendums are made on concrete polycys. And I don't get the hostility towards a second referendum, now at least we know what the conditions of leaving are. As a non brit I still hope raht the Uk rewokea Article 50, because the whole brexit think seems kinda silly and unnecessary to me.
Cambell is a twister and one of those types , when beaten or wrong , can't shake hands and accept defeat. Unelected jumped up paperboy twister.
by definition he is elected. Many times
farage is the unelected one, oh sorry he is elected, he's one of those old men in brussels running our country accepting paychecks from the oragnistaion he's trying to leave very noble nigel
If there is a second referendum and we vote to remain in the EU (success for project fear on steroids) the division in the country will NEVER heal. The law has been passed - we leave in March next year and we prepare for no deal exit, in which case we will be fine.
this aged well.. its funny that none of the project fear claims have been proven wrong
She says no deal is better than a bad deal and then goes and negotiates an even worse deal than either.
The question to Farage was: "Are you pleased with your handiwork?" What is the answer? May is delivering a Brexit and what was voted for and remember, Brexit means Brexit - this IS Brexit.
Channel 4 bloke is biased.
definitely ...Snow demonstrated this really well
Channel 4 bloke? Surely you mean Channel 4 full stop. Channel 4 is heavily biased against Brexit.
@intempify no Fear Mongering and not reality is biased against Brexit...
And the BCC and just about every paper are baised as well. No wonder the UK public has by far the least amount of trust in it's media from all the EU countries.
1000%
Nigel should be knighted.
Services to scamming the country
I always think of him as sir Nigel
We've had a second referendum, the EU parliament election's , and what happened
Alistair Campbell should be tried for war crimes along with Blair and co . He is a repulsive man I still don't understand why the media allow him to give his opinions on anything .
Two rights don't make a wrong 🤣🤣 the people have already spoken , brexit means exit!!
Respect democracy and LEAVE
Think about it: a new Referendum is forced and again Leave wins by 52%... Would it be accepted? Or a third referendum is needed?
Wasn't Farage one of "the old men in Brussels"? Or what was he (as an MEP) doing there?
I would just vote leave again..... boom 💥
Gammon breath
Alan Buchanan better than your dog breath
alistair when you tell the mrs you are going to leave for work, does it matter by which means eg front door, back door by bicycle, car or moped, leave means leave, putting one foot out the door does not constitute leaving the house
But it would certainly be of interest where you are going to. Even if his Mrs doesn't care where he is going at least he should know where he is heading...
@@Felix-st2ue Out of the EU!
@@sandrawinterton9175
TMs plan is taking the UK out of the EU. That's what you voted for, so be happy and stop moaning, you won and you get what you voted for.
Analogy doesn't really work though, on any level. Perhaps saying to mrs that you intend to move house but having no idea where you're going to live next, how you're going to get there with all your belongings etc etc. In other words it takes a lot of planning and the success of the planning determines whether it's really a good idea or not.
There’s a difference between leaving through the front door and the 5th story window
You do know we can just leave. No deal we can just walk away, besides the EU have broken all promises, broken agreement and gone against the contract the EU made people sign. We can walk away. No consequences
The reason the government and parliament cannot sort this out is because the Prime Minister doesn't want to leave the EU, and the majority of MPs don't want to leave the EU (480 out of 650 MPs for remaining). How can you expect people that don't believe in leaving the EU and being an independent country to negotiate a withdrawal?
The only way this will be sorted is by the people voting in MPs that reflect their views on this, which in turn would create a parliament that reflects the views of the country. Trying to sort this out through referendums is not going to work.
The problem with all that is that both the Con and Lab parties have both supported EU membership for the past 50 years. Voters haven't had a choice of being in or out of it. MPs are incapable of representing the public's views on this. Our democracy is a sham, and that is a very dangerous situation.
Has Campbell ever been right about anything?
Eh , aye
We have already voted brixit means WTO end of argument.
did the public get a vote on the lisbon treaty,no,no,no...
We will not get in to something we can't unilaterally get out…., so what about Good Friday Agreement? You are already in. Please tell me because I do not know: Is there a clause to unilaterally suspend it?
The fact that there “seems” to be no way out of the EU shows you axactly what type of an authroritarian state it is. This is exactly why everyone should remain steadfast about leaving...
The EU is not keeping you in. It's the UK that's shitting its collective pants. Look at the rest of Europe, they don't give a toss about brexit. It's in the newspapers maybe once a month maximum. From the Very beginning, it's a national issue, from the poverty and inequality, to the Tories in-fighting, GE, and now today. All inside the UK.
The rest of the EU does not care anymore.
You can leave anytime you want.
You won, get over it and go away.
@@brezhou29 The EU very much is keeping Britain in. They refuse to create or agree a plan to deal with Brexit to ensure everything runs smoothly. Britain is trying to ensure that EU nations aren't unnecessarily disturbed by their leaving. You know you're living in an authoritarian state when a foreign nation cares more about you than your own government.
@@windradyne8724 oh wow, no idea how you got to that conclusion . on the other hand, I saw many comments from leavers that said they couldn't care less about NI, so you know...
But seriously though. How is the UK trying not to disturb the EU? I'm curious about that.
@@windradyne8724 oh and as usual... If you think the EU is being difficult, wait until you try to work out a deal with the US or China...
@@brezhou29 Basically UK has been trying to negotiate for a few protections for EU citizens in the UK and for UK citizens abroad so that no one is left stranded causing some bureaucratic nonsense impacting movement. Secondly they want a continuation of current trading rules until trade negotiations are completed, so as to not negatively affect trade. The UK is the 5th largest economy after all.
The problem is that the EU will only allow this if the UK is willing to fork out large payments to the EU and remain subordinate to the European Court of Justice among other nonsense, even though both wants are mutually beneficial. The EU is willing to hurt their own to get at Britain.
As for Ireland, the border is currently ordained by treaty between the UK and the Republic of Ireland, see The Good Friday Agreement. Should the EU interfere (which they wish to do in the case of a no deal scenario) they will be directly interfering in the business of two sovereign nations. This is why many people see the EU as tyrannical and authoritarian since they can control the actions of supposedly independent states. EU nations are vassals. This is why Britain wants to leave.
Farage is a legend.
Making Campby look Completely deceitful...which he is.
“arise Sir Nigel”....
Now those words really would make the NPCs on the left lose their hair 😅😅
👍🇬🇧
What do you think of the fact that "leave means leave" is an empty rhetoric, esecially i there is no plan in place for what happens when we do leave? Don't you think its like jumping from an Aeroplane without checking for your parachute first?
Seconded
Yes, there are people out there that are disgusted. Disgusted by what an dishonest man Nigel Farage is.
I much as I want to hate Campbell because of Iraq, when I hear him spitting truth I can't help but agree with him. A good idea is still a good idea, regardless of who said it.
jacob reese mogg nigel farage and boris a new party
I can’t believe they’ve stuck with her. I’m so embarrassed for our country. I think I’ll never vote again tbh.
Wasn't the British membership in the EU the worst deal of all time not two years ago?
Although I am a staunch retainer. I am pleased with today's result. Now I want a second referendum.
SOUR FACED CAMPBELL. WORRIED ABOUT HIS EU MONEY
Campbell for Prison 2018
This reminds me of a kindergarten same as in house of commons when May just answers Jeremy 's questions with how bad laborers and he is. But asked when they will have a vote and debate in house of commons for that do called deal.
Merry Christmas
Is there no way out of Europe,?
Sure there is, if you don't export or import anything and are completely self reliant you could walk away today. The problem is the UK like most countries is very dependent on trade. If you walk away without trade agreements you'll bankrupt the country and if you want to keep the current agreements (and thus access to the EU single market) you need to abide with said agreements and all the obligations that that entails.
What Nigel is proposing is simply unattainable for the UK as it's not in a position of power, you can't enforce the rest of the world to abide with *YOUR* demands unilaterally so you either stick with the EU, take the current deal or go bankrupt.
Just walk out the front door empty handed.
Islam.
thats what the establishment hope we believe
@@amonmetalhead7034The problem in a nutshell, you can't always get what you want
Everywhere he goes, Alastair Campbell should carry a big box of Kleenex tissues with him.. Every time I see him he does nothing but whinge.
The big problem is, there is no one held accountable . If jail was an issue they would go out and fight for the country Not lee betraying the British people.
They are blinking so fast..
It was frustrating watching Alastair Cambell defending the indefensible yesterday
Theresa may need to go, the globalism system no way.
Why not have a referendum like this:
1- Remain
2a - Leave without a deal
2b - Leave with a deal
Anyone voting 1, simple enough, they're for remaining, and anyone voting either of the options under 2 are counted as leave voters. Ridiculously simple, unless I'm missing something.
Better would be:
1. Remain: y/n
2. in case of leaving: Deal/no deal
In this way you always have on each question an absolute majority…
@@untergehermuc That'll work too. As long as the leave side are properly counted. I don't agree with them, but fuckery will create 17m very angry people....
Nigel don't speak to ch 4 their bias keep away from them.
Alastair Campbell .......... Dracarys
Nigel farage ............... Iron throne
I'm just a dumb 28 year old single issue voter, but I thought the message was quite implicit when we voted.
Leave - We'll leave the EU and be an independent country. Pick your favourite example, "Norway"? Interesting interpretation of "independent".
Remain - we will continue our agreement with the EU and attempt to air any grievances through the EU process.
When I voted, I was expecting a relationship to the EU similar to that of Switzerland, or the US, or China or Russia, with a soft trade border due to common land and interests
The Swiss vote constantly, often on the same subject.
For example, at the local level, whether to buy a new fire truck. Just because a majority rejected it in 2016 doesn't mean you can't vote on it again in 2019.
Constant votes are the purest form of democracy.
It was 41 years between the UK voters having a say. denied democracy for 41 years. the people's vote can ask again in 40 years.
for starter Alastair Campbell he isn't a banker he a writer a spin doctor a master of spinner a liar and he work for Tony Blair for some year writing his speeches and l'm surprised they haven't made him a knights or made him a sir Alastair Campbell