How come Tauren (both hero and unit) are basically extinct in high level play. Seems like a Tauren-raider force could punish UD. Snare and pulp a couple units when they try to kite, and can press directly on their base, shrugging off that coil/nova combo.
@@KapitanDragen taurens (unir) can be ressurected, scroll of speed is very useful tô reach ranged units, healing wards are awesome to high hp units. I think orcs players are not using the best strategy.
@@gabriellima106 in pub anything can work, but in pro games, speed scroll quickly get dispelled by destros, as well as healing wards, giving them more hp and dmg and on top of that destros have magic dmg=200% to heavy armor. Revive is strong spell, but there is a one little problem- orc is the only race, which units can't regen mana. And walkers will need to use link and dispel right? Also how u gonna get to mass taurens/sw/docs, which heroes and units in process? Even if u managed to do, nothing stops UD to make just mass destros
SPOILER ALERT Poor strategy and it has failed nearly every time it has been tried. HH and 3 heroes and shamans are the way to go. Here Happy as a hero and level advantage. Absolutely no way for Lyn to win.
He tried hh and never worked this is best irc can do vs ud. Ud vs orc 70-30 in favor of ud, ud vs ne also dominant ud. Hu is our hope and my favorite race too :))
@@user-kd2qd1sh3o No i would not that’s not how it works… Look at dota 2 biggest e sport: 1. most ti wining players are not top ranked… 2. Most broken heroes which are picked/ banned in most games during ti and then get nerfed or reworked are in many cases least played on ladder and generally only few people play them . Cause people go for things that look good or is fun like techies, pudge ( very low win rate high pick rate) instead of grinding meepo or brood mother Race strength is shown by top 1-2 player of that race during high stake tournaments. Both top 1 and 2 ud player dominate wc3 while orc and ne is ceasing. Why ud was not so dominant before all the changes was not their players great before? Or you think happy and 120 started their pro scene with dominance? There was a time when ne was killing it and nobody argued that it’s ne players who are just better they argued that ne was broken. Difference is ud fanboys are generally happy fanboys and they don’t use logic, data, facts. For them it’s ok that top 2 ud player can sweep floor with top 1 orc and others… 120 won game 2 vs 1 , 40 food vs 90 , 1 base vs 2 or 3 few weeks ago it’s on this channel
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What about a bat rider army instead of wind riders?
same question, but it's seems as orc heroes suck without army, unlike ud
How come Tauren (both hero and unit) are basically extinct in high level play. Seems like a Tauren-raider force could punish UD. Snare and pulp a couple units when they try to kite, and can press directly on their base, shrugging off that coil/nova combo.
slow from nova and frost armor are deadly for melee hero/units.
@@KapitanDragen taurens (unir) can be ressurected, scroll of speed is very useful tô reach ranged units, healing wards are awesome to high hp units. I think orcs players are not using the best strategy.
@@gabriellima106 in pub anything can work, but in pro games, speed scroll quickly get dispelled by destros, as well as healing wards, giving them more hp and dmg and on top of that destros have magic dmg=200% to heavy armor. Revive is strong spell, but there is a one little problem- orc is the only race, which units can't regen mana. And walkers will need to use link and dispel right? Also how u gonna get to mass taurens/sw/docs, which heroes and units in process? Even if u managed to do, nothing stops UD to make just mass destros
SPOILER ALERT
Poor strategy and it has failed nearly every time it has been tried. HH and 3 heroes and shamans are the way to go. Here Happy as a hero and level advantage. Absolutely no way for Lyn to win.
Something tells me he is going wyvern precisely because HHs are not really working (very vulnerable to skeletons, ghouls and nova)
He tried hh and never worked this is best irc can do vs ud.
Ud vs orc 70-30 in favor of ud, ud vs ne also dominant ud.
Hu is our hope and my favorite race too :))
@@Biobin123 you would think that if UD is so strong then there would be more top ranking UD players, but there is only Happy#1 and eer0#6
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No i would not that’s not how it works…
Look at dota 2 biggest e sport:
1. most ti wining players are not top ranked…
2. Most broken heroes which are picked/ banned in most games during ti and then get nerfed or reworked are in many cases least played on ladder and generally only few people play them . Cause people go for things that look good or is fun like techies, pudge ( very low win rate high pick rate) instead of grinding meepo or brood mother
Race strength is shown by top 1-2 player of that race during high stake tournaments. Both top 1 and 2 ud player dominate wc3 while orc and ne is ceasing.
Why ud was not so dominant before all the changes was not their players great before? Or you think happy and 120 started their pro scene with dominance? There was a time when ne was killing it and nobody argued that it’s ne players who are just better they argued that ne was broken.
Difference is ud fanboys are generally happy fanboys and they don’t use logic, data, facts. For them it’s ok that top 2 ud player can sweep floor with top 1 orc and others…
120 won game 2 vs 1 , 40 food vs 90 , 1 base vs 2 or 3 few weeks ago it’s on this channel
Boys and girls remeber that Wind ridders were useless for tire 3 UD with high level herosh
I guess that the best orc player is not aware of that, thanks for the reminder.
Absolutely nope!
Computer(nightmare) wins!
AI from the future wins