'We're 10 minutes away from the boos at Villa Park' | Steven Gerrard's issues with Tyrone Mings
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2022
- Aston Villa broadcaster Dan Bardell joined Joe Molloy on the Football Show to discuss all of the latest on Villa, Steven Gerrard, Tyrone Mings and the goings on at Villa Park.
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Well spoken Dan and a real measured view on how we're all feeling at the moment after Saturday,,not panic stations by any means but my god that was a wake up call.. UTV
The treatment of Mings in public not good, been a great servant to the club.
There's obviously something with Mings that Gerrard has seen and isn't happy with. Stop pandering these players and throwing the manager under the bus when he's just trying to do what he thinks is right.
@@lordpembridge303 Mings has done a lot for this club.
@@lordpembridge303 what has Gerrard done to earn that? A lot less than Tyrone has
@@al-dh5ju he's the manager you fool. Should a manager have to earn the right to make decisions or should he just stand in the background until he's deemed worthy enough to do anything around the place?
@@lordpembridge303 hes a terrible manager, picks his friends over inform players, picks a captain whos just been has poor as couthino, we have won just 2 games in 12
Tyrone has been Villa's most responsible, mature and dedicated Skipper since Petrov. A good example and figurehead, regardless of ability. These things go a long way.
He had to ask who we signed. I've been saying for years that the only reason spurs and upwards are regularly discussed on off the ball is because they have no idea what happens outside of the top 4 or 5 clubs. Probably fewer of the listeners care. The fact that Joe Molloy asked this question confirms why I listen to Dan Bardell (among others) and not off the ball when it comes to football.
The Delusions of Granduer comment, confirmed that point to me.
@@turnpiketumbler8938 I thought that question was amusing in it's ignorance. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I've been told that a contributor to this show predicted spurs to win the title. Now, I've spoken to Villa fans who do expect a bit too much but this is true of any set of supporters.
Great stuff from Dan as per usual 💜💙
Regarding Mings, I personally think stripping the captaincy was the best thing for Mings.
Does anyone genuinely see Mings taking us forward?
Does Gerrard have a higher standard than what our players are used to? Gerrard will stand by his decisions and his comments. Villa as a team are still a huge work in progress and I do think we have a lot of players in the squad that arent good enough in the overall grand scheme of things.
Agree with Dan, we need a cup win and a high finish. Anything under 12th is unacceptable, its far too early to panic and start booing. We need another 2-3 marquee signings this season to really make a statement and show we're a team to be tKen seriously
Deano did wonders with what he had to work with - once you start changing styles you're asking for trouble when using those same players that created miracles and a lot of those miracles were down to Deano and the respect the players had for him.
@@jimwhiteing3437 I have to disagree, a lot of fans put sentiment ahead of sense when talking about Smith. But I think most of Smith's success was down to how good Grealish was. I mean if you've got Jack Grealish and Tammy Abraham in your team in the Championship and can't get promoted there's something seriously wrong, they were the best 2 players in that league.
The miracles were down to Grealish dragging the side kicking and screaming into the league and then keeping us there. Our first season's recruitment was nothing short of terrible, hence why Suso was sacked.
Don't get me wrong i've got love for Smith just like any other Villa fan, but results showed without Grealish either in the Prem or Championship, we were poor
@@AdamAVFC90 I agree with what you say about Grealish and Tammy. I would like to add that the defence was organised bar those nagging slips, that are more obvious now. Maybe that Deano was more focused there.
Gud contributor, nice to hear a little from the world outside the top 6
Dan Coutinho has been poor from the end of last season , which has continue. My opinion is Emi need to start ahead of Coutinho
I agree. Couthino only seens to be up for it on the big games or at Villa Park. Everton on Saturday, is now a big game at Villa Park, so Gerrard will definitely start him for that one.
Spot and well said Dan. UTV
I know we're only one game in BUT the club increased ticket prices by a huge margin at a time where everyone is finding everyday living a lot harder. This means we want what we're paying for so things have to improve quickly because the pressure is on
You want to win the prem straight away when your manager has only been there for a few months!!! Oh yes that's why clubs with moaning fans get nothing...give the guy some time!!o
@@marnfulda1758 nobody has said anything about Winning the prem
@@marnfulda1758 2 wins out of the last 12, those came against norwich and burnley.............like I said, things need to improve fast
@@marnfulda1758 I don't think any Villa fan is seriously considering winning the league this season, or anytime soon for that matter.
I was wondering where your Pep Guardiola analogy was coming from! Lol
@@jamieowen4849 Villa won 4 of 4 to start the season a few yrs ago. You want that cast of characters back?
Mings has been making mistakes week in week out since we've been promoted, quality player for 88mins each week, but goes missing at key moments.
Coutinho keeps running into defenders, is slowing down play, Buendia should be starting ahead of him.
Carlos is much better player than mings, needs improve English, but he's a leader whose his record speaks volumes.
Mings has been brilliant for club but Gerrard can see we won't reach next level with him continuing making mistakes he's making
Always a mistake in him
"Delusions of Granduer" Please, most Villa fans would be happy just to break into the top ten this season. The squad, on paper, is definitely good enough.
The issue is the inconsistencies. Win two, lose two, win three, lose three and repeat. That's been Gerrard's form since taking over at Villa Park.
Wow big deal! It took Ferguson 4 years to win ANYTHING at utd, Klopp 3 years and in his first year Pep won nothing, and that was with all the money in the world, so stop panicking and give Gerrard some time.
@@marnfulda1758 I said the issues is the inconsistencies! Never said or suggested that I wanted Gerrard out!!
@@turnpiketumbler8938 so you are blaming Gerrard, that's what you just said "Gerrard's form" nothing do do with the players then? You need to know with any change in management that you need to give him time. Bloody hell he hasn't even been there for one year!!! If you don't back your team and manager then all that will happen is the usual spiralling down because the fans affect both the team and manager. Moaning about Gerrard at this stage is absolutely ridiculous.
@@marnfulda1758 I think you have difficulty understanding my point.
Dan spoke my feelings as a Villan perfectly. I'm annoyed at Gerrard's treatment of Mings, and that's irrespective of whether I want him in the lineup or not.
Also I'm not sure this host has quite got an understanding of how bloody good our squad is. We should absolutely be getting top 10, that's not delusion at all. Ask any La Liga or Ligue 1 fan about Diego Carlos or Boubacar Kamara, we just brought in two top footballers. Gerrard isn't getting the best out of this squad.
Couldn't agree more. Reverse 12 months - what did we all say we needed? Top quality centre back and a top quality holding mid. We've got both, and one is proven CL quality. We've got the talent we need - fully expect an improvement and top 10 finish. Really don't think that's unreasonable. Top 6? That's a push. Top 10 is very realistic.
Delusional mate, I’m a Villa fan too but top 10 with the squad we have? You’re smoking something I NEED😅 lucky to crack top 10, it’s the management that’s the problem, Gerrards pull to attract players is the only positive, he’s not a good manager
Gerrard has an ego the size of Mt Everest and doesn’t have the tactical know how to get away with it like a Mourinho or Conte. I know it’s just one game and us football fans have a tendency to be quite over reactionary but I genuinely believe this is the beginning of the end for Stevie G. The parallels between him and Lampard is quite obvious. Both completely out of their depth..
@@KS-jn5pv If you're going to disagree with me then please try to make a coherent argument. How is it delusional if the only change you're asking for is the manager?
That's literally what I am saying in my post, you're agreeing with me.
@@RenewedRS That's because he's probably not a Villa-fan, if he thinks that Aston Villa isn't good enough for top 10 with that squad.
Personally, I even think that Aston Villa is good enough for top 6 and either an FA Cup title or a League Cup title this season.
But it's namely Purslow, Gerrard, Critchley and McAllister who are the dead wood in this club.
Dan is brilliant. Love his stuff
Agree w every word Dan except Coutinho (still) being a world class footballer. If he is we he wouldn't be signing for mid table prem sides for £17m. He's had three excellent games and been anonymous in most of the rest
2 Wins in last 12 games - Against Norwich & Burnley. Gerrards record since 2022 doesn’t look good at all. This coupled with the Mings situation & the Bournemouth performance is a big concern for me
So was Mings playing in those last 12 games? If he was, then ask yourself the question!
@@marnfulda1758 Are Villa a one man team?
@@iangascoigne8231 that's my point. You would think the way people have been talking that Mings WAS the team. Just because the manager drops him everyone goes ape. If he was playing that well he would not be dropped, Gerrard is not stupid.
@@marnfulda1758 The census of opinion is others have played worse than Mngs, yet he’s the one being dropped. You’re the one making it a one man team but can’t see the irony. Though I don’t think that was your point. Gerrard is not stupid? 2 wins in 12 appears to show otherwise. He’s not getting stick for dropping MIngs, just the way he’s done it.
Saying his 2022 record across two different seasons was poor is like saying his 2021 record was very good. Two different sets of players each time. Two different seasons. Makes no sense. Makes even less sense to talk wins/losses when draws get you pts too.
Great to see Dan Bardell getting more and more media opportunities. Well balanced and insightful since being a driving force on The Villa View.
Optimism + Aston Villa = False Dawn. Fourth law of thermodynamics
Class interview with Dan thought he was spot on with everything he said it’s not that we lost to Bournemouth 2-0 it’s how we lost we looked so dull created nothing no one stood up and tried to take the game by the scruff of the neck. I just hope for Gerrards sake it’s not a repeat on Saturday against Everton because it won’t be long til the 4 game a season fans start turning up with bedsheets. UTV
Totally agree with your sentiments about Tyrone Ming's, he is our only leader for sure, yes his form hasn't been brilliant but none of them have been anything to shout home about.
We’ve got a great squad there’s no excuses.. Mings , look at his stats … Look at Villa’s without him ..
Mid table squad at best not great by any means 🤔
Dan has been the voice of the villa for many years now. Big fan of his work and great to see his profile grow. Dan is a dude.
Gerrard's creating problems for himself. He needs to solve them. That's where the bar is but he put it there.
The same ambition that acquired him would bin him as quick if it doesn't work.
Needs this season, and needs to make a success of it. Show me you can use players like Buendia and Watkins and Mings
So far all I've seen is a manager limited in his ability to get the best out of players.
Support the manager 100% and Steve G will get us up to the top end of the league! Patience.
"Do you lot just have delusions of grandeur?". I thought that was a particularly amusing question to ask . All Dan said was a top half finish and a cup run. That's what I was expecting at the start of the season myself.
I don't feel that's in any way unreasonable. It may not happen but it certainly isn't unreasonable. It's not exactly asking to win the CL.
Take a look at the comments from fans when Villa signed Kamara & Carlos & made Coutinho permanent. You will understand that question was justified.
@@vforvendetta211 lol, that's B.S. The vast majority of Villa fans know that we're miles off top six. Even with Couthino (who only turns up of the big games) and Kamara, who's yet to prove himself.
@@vforvendetta211 What comments from Villa fans? Where? Let's just remember that a contributor to off the ball predicted that Spurs would win the league and you'll realise that this question isn't coming form a position of insight. Also bear in mind that he had to ask Dan Bardell what players we had signed.
It may turn out Scotty Parkers Bournemouth might Take a lot of scalps at home, dont panic after one away loss, Villa have bad record at Bournemouth I wasnt surprised we lost there.
We had a bad record in the premier league because two previous seasons we played there we were one of the worst premier league teams in points and the other we scraped a 17th place finish
Villa under Dean and Steve , the team plays 45/60 .. People forget Dean had COVID, Latins away, injuries all at once .. In that period EMI won Copa ,and Douglas won Olympic gold
IMO the Mings issue is being poorly managed by SG. The change announced late IMO, why wasn't the captaincy changed on tour 🤨
So ok timing isn't great...but then to bench Mings AND to publicly call him out is really poor - or maybe SG is trying to make him angry so he'll respond. It just doesn't sit well with me. Mings has been a good servant to the club, a great ambassador so there is one thing I'd say to Mings IF is having a hard time losing the band and with being dropped; suck it up and prove SG and naysayers wrong, everyone loves a comeback kid 😉
Lastly, not a great start for Capt McGinn with poor form and letting Konza do the post match interview alone isn't quite showing leadership. 😕 early days ...but eyes are on this.
Still not signed the players with the physicality and leadership traits required to improve us. I’m tired of hearing about the wealth of our owners - but see a net spend that’s equal to the teams within the bottom 10. Their selling us short !!!
We have F.F.P to worry about. Although I'd love if we could sign Gallagher either on loan or a permanent move. That could transform the midfield.
I'm sorry but we've spent a lot of money collectively on wages and transfer fees, as well as players that have pedigree, we've addressed key areas and we should of been up to it against bournmouth, a team that has spent next to no money. Meanwhile brighton lose their two best players and roll over united. It's about coaching.
@@turnpiketumbler8938 agree mate- I’m sure if SG were to provide honest feedback he would say balancing the books is preventing us from signing the likes of Gallagher,- we need to lose the likes of Traore, Samson,Luiz, etc,etc to move forward.. I’m sure SG knows who he wants but we can’t push these moves forward until we lose the players from Deno’s time.
@@andyvale3681 Traore is going out on a season's loan. Sanson, will probably follow him out the door after his petulant tweet the other day.
@@turnpiketumbler8938 until then - we will have to wait for the likes of Gallagher / Sangare to join and wont replace Tyrone and Olly until the squad numbers reduce
Mings championship level
Seems personal to me as looking at the stats he's no worse than Konsa and Villa won more when Mings plays.
Not impressed this season with Gerrard tbh and picking Ings over Watkins was beyond bizarre, old teammate though isn't he.
Villa Should indeed have won a trophy since 1996.
Sincerely, Everton Fan (who haven't won a trophy since 1995)
As an Aston Villa Fan delusions of grandeur definitely😂😂😂
What because we got battered 2-0 to worst team and squad in the league, oh yeah we should all be happy shouldn’t we
I think looking in the eye is a bit of a figure of speech, a hypothetical situation where someone shows their dedication. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person cannot look at someone in the eye in general.
Organ Donor! Nice!
Mings won’t look in his eyes because he knows he’s racist.. that’s what we do these days
OK 👌 saying we had an off day but we didn't exactly play well in the pre season did not create much & score much .
If he wanted to change the captain so much it might of been better to give to one of the new signings rather than Mcginn !
All is not well in camp & we struggle to create & score & i am not to confident in the next 5 games .
Tbf, did he not say “we WERE 10 minutes away from boo’s”? Was there need for that headline🤷♂️
It got my attention
For the algorithm
He did lol 14:10
Completely agree with Dan's points on Tyrone Mings. If Paul McGrath (God) is also of the same opinion then maybe it's something that Gerrard needs to consider.
Maybe he's looking to spark a reaction from Mings, but I don't think leaving him out of the team is going to do that, or help the club.
Not sure about 10 minutes away, the next game is 2 days away......given that the booing should start 10 minutes before kick off that's still 48 hours.......
Gerrard is letting us down with his team selection. Villa is bigger than he thinks..
Excellent brummie accent 👌
I think Brenden Rogers would be a great fit for Villa . I don't get the Stevie G vibe , Celtic imploded that year . As a Spurs fan the job Levy has done is excellent . Ten years ago or so Spurs , Villa , Everton where all looking to get where Spurs are now . Long season for Villa and Everton I reckon #COYS
gerrards teams looked clueless at rangers but winning the league covered a lot of sins
The only people disrespecting mings is the media and people on sky and talksport. Gerrard wants him to fight, if he fights he gets in the team
Good club the villa. You will be ok. From a very worried evertonian (we are crap)
Dan’s a star
Lamps & Gerrard both given an easy ride by the English media. Both overrated.
Gerrard did a great job with Rangers to be fair
@@greenhandskelly5580 my granny could manage either of the old firm clubs, still do a great job and she's dead .
@@greenhandskelly5580 he did that
But more experienced managers than him have struggled to make the step up
Look at his mate brenda and where Leicester are now !
Smith a better manager
@@Adrianheneghan would she take them so far in the Europa?
Harsh
Mings thinks he's a great player he is nowhere near being great Gerrard has sussed him out
Tyrone Mings is a class act top upstanding guy 😎from what I’ve heard n seen on n off the pitch with Villa 💜💙and England🏴⚽️ Don’t know what if anything has happened.
I like Steven Gerred as a player, person, coach from what I’ve seen, it’s not like Gerred to say what has been said or it being taken the wrong way, as long as Gerred n Mings understand how this has been interpreted. I really hope they can focus on the season and winning games.
Too many costly mistakes by Mings. Right decision. Keep him as first reserve . His concentration levels are terrible .
10 mins away from the Booo's ... !! ..Villa fall behind against Everton and Gerrard will feel the Gods of Villa Park explode with anger as all the buildup BS will come home to roost for him. Gerrard will wish he should of stayed in the Old Iron League !!
Of they’ll boo bc they’re irrational moaners who’d rather their negative predictions be true than support the team under any circumstance. No shock why players wouldn’t want to sign for Villa. Toxic.
old firm??
Stevie g made a massive mistake leaving Rangers his loss our gain. WATP
Great accent
Perhaps Villa and Man Utd both suffering from a pre season all the way on the other side of the planet. I know they want to spread the brand but this tour seemed a bit ridiculous.
We need a nuisance type of player in midfield conor gallagher type but hey just gotta get a early goal against everton to settle and start games in first half instead of second so any kind of win tomoz will do UTV
Dan with his Irish connections
Best we can hope for this season is 14th
you know that game girls played where they looped a string around their fingers creating patterns easily and then you tried to do it and fked it up.... the latter was villa the other night
Yeah I know what you mean pal. God that takes me back some years man.
Do i agree with Dan??
Ermmmmm Courseeeeeee!!!
Maybe the jobs a bit too big even for Stevie Me
Losing their minds after one bad day at the office…..
It's not just Villa fans, it seems to be problem with all football fans.
@@beefcake1973aus it is a sign of the times. People whipped up into a stupor over the least thing. How the hell is Ten Hag under any pressure before a ball is kicked (for example)? They lose to Brighton, and the toxic mindsets come out in force. All the armchair experts feeling that they could do better. Constructive criticism I can handle: eg the players seemed a little off so need to work on their fitness. All of the doom and gloom helps nobody…especially not their own clubs.
Gerrard has no plan B. His limitations as a coach/manager are now highlighted in a more competitive league. Villa have spent a fortune but have they really spent more than other similarly placed prem clubs? Fan's expectations are too high. Mid table is Villa's level.
Too high? Most fans would take 9th or 10th. That's a reasonable expectation, the squad is definitely good enough, on paper anyway. But I do agree with Gerrard struggling with a plan B.
If you actually watch Villa play you would realise Ming's was pretty much rock solid under Gerrard last season, stripping him of the captaincy and dropping him is just bizarre and poor management.
Gerrard needs to remember no one is bigger than the club! No matter who you are! He’s still on trial really 🤔
I’ll always love Gerrard for turning Rangers back in the right direction but with hindsight, I don’t miss him. Tactically he’s lacking, I’m beginning to think that it was Michael Beale who was the man behind the big results. Even now at Villa, I just hear the same things from SG when results don’t go his way. Nothing changes on or off the park with him.
McGinn is inconsistent ? that's rich none of the Villa players have ben consistent . It's really simple regarding McGinn Gerrard needs to stop playing him in a more defensive position example he covers for Matty Cash as a right-back when he goes forward , Right backs are not meant to be used constantly as a attacking option . There is no threat from the villa midfield if the likes of McGinn and Ramsey are having to cover . McGinn is a leader he is vice captain for Scotland and recently was captain when Andy Robertson was injured . Ashely Young and Mings would be better captains than McGinn REALLY
Gerrard is out of his depth. He won one trophy out of 9 at rangers and that season Celtic were poor. Not sure he’s got the chops for it.
That season we went undefeated, you mean. P38 W32 D6 L-to absolutely no one. Broke records left, right and centre.
Aye, but "Celtic were poor". Keep telling yourself that.
But will gerards mate coutinho be outed, for all the sub standard play he,s dished up.
Question Villa fans... Do you stick with Gerrard, and give him time. Say to Xmas.. Is he the right man for the managers job, long term. Thanks..
Unless, we're in the bottom three coming up to the World Cup there won't be any change before Christmas. Apart from that, I think Villa will give him a full season in Charge.
At the same time, the honeymoon period is over for Gerrard. Villa have to beat Everton at Villa Park on Saturday. Otherwise things could start get difficult for him.
We need Stevie G at UTD. It looks to me like players downed tools after captain switch. If I was Gerard, I'd drop half team for next game. When players try to take over dressing room, drop them.
That's part of the problem he won't drop his favourites.
Lets just suppose there is a few players in the team who are unhappy at the treatment of Mings? They will down tools in support of him. . Mings has done nothing wrong, really. Gerrard is just throwing his weight about for no reason,, he is a novice who will be found out this season. I didnt want him there in the first place with his Liverpool connection. He is a big time charlie who thinks Villa is just a stepping stone on his way to Liverpool. If he fails and has to go,, Purslowe should go with him. He should never have brought in Gerrard.
I agree it's a bizarre and misguided attempt to use Mings to stamp his authority on the team, I think he'll not last long now after alienating such a good servant to the club unjustifiably imo.
Ings playing ahead of Watkins was criminal and clearly because of the Liverpool connection.
It's a shame because I was really hopeful for this season, it is just one game though so hopefully they click.
Say what u want about gerrard but big time Charlie he isn't. Was a model pro as a player and not some big I am. Maybe something has happened on tour where mings has stepped out of line and Gerrard could be protecting him by not telling the fans what happened
@@TORRES999ify He wasn't but people change over the years, seems odd Ming's has never had any issues with any other manager.
He certainly didn't protect him he's basically thrown him under the bus utterly, he can't stay now and will move on for sure.
@@grayalun prorbably will have to if he wants to go the world Cup..
Gerrard is a strong character and if you cross him or upset him I don't think he give you away back tbh so mings will have to go cant see it being resolved
@@TORRES999ify I expect he wants to spend more money and has been told he needs to sell to buy and has deliberately upset Ming's because he knows he's saleable.
What the heck!!! Mings caused trouble in Dean Smith's last time, Mings made mistake after mistake. Whilst I don't think Gerrard is the right mix for Villa, I support him on this, Mings is a liability and I'd get shot. Same with Watkins who is dreadful in front of goal
But Bardell loves Mings and Watkins. The bloke is sadly a typical Villa fan these days. Has his opinions given to him by the media but believes that they are his opinions. As fickle as O'leary said they are sadly.
No mention from Villa fans Gerrard's comment but after the media started chirping about it, the backlash happened. A chorus of woke millennials taking the side of Mings based on knowing what? The manager said something that might hurt his feelings? Bardell for me typifies the modern Villa fan. Knows nothing but it's the manager's fault because talksport said so. He isn't a fan! He's a customer who blindly consumes football while his opinions are handed to him. If he ever had an original thought, he may never recover from it!
Villa fans can't work out why we have been under performing for years, Had great players, managers and owners but never seems to work out does it? Sadly the fanbase are yet to work out that they are the problem because the media didn't tell them that yet! The fanbase is more and more schizophrenic every season and less knowledgeable meaning that Villa park is a nervy place to play your football. And while that remains, we will underperform. and sadly its only getting worse thanks to Bardell and his ilk.
Nobody knows what has happened behind closed doors. Strange that everyone seems to have taken Mings' side, based upon what? Mings had a hand in Smith's demise and has form for this. Is he unsettling the dressing room by any chance? Gerrard has hinted that Mings' attitude isn't all that it appears. Bardell backs Tyrone regardless, will probably call his next rabbit Tyrone(be it breathing or vibrating).
If our crowd turn on Gerrard at this stage, it's curtains. Horrible to see the fanbase shooting themselves in the foot like this! Stupidity!
Correct. Mings was practically public enemy no.1 last season. Now he's the golden boy. I honestly thought Mings and Mcginn would be shipped out due to their inconsistencies. There's no way Gerrard is dropping Carlos after one game. Which, is why Gerrard needs to win this home game.
He is a first class victim. / bully
I work with alot of villa fans ,it's startling how unrealistic they are ,one win and they think they are world beaters so when things go wrong they are shocked
You've just described every fan base
How many Villa fans do you work with? Are you that dumb to think that the few you know speak for and represent ALL Villa fans? Villa have spent more than Liverpool over the last 4 years and you expect Villa fans to be happy with 2 wins in 12 league games???
Gerrard has quite simply not improved anything on the pitch, I've gave him a chance but nothing has changed bar the initial bounce. Since the mini pre season we had in January we have been terrible, no style, no rhythm. The players look clueless as how to play... No excuse with the squad we have.. its all well and good being able to attract big name players but if you haven't a clue how to coach it's pointless
Delusions of grandeur? We're aiming for a top half finish, not Champions League lmao. If anyone's suffering from that, it's United fans coming to terms with the fact that they're just not a top 4 club anymore.
Villa lose to bottom three teams all the time. what else is new?
Gerrard needs time 1 game of the new season & the knives are out yes last season tailed off but come on
So you lose one game and its Gerrard out! That's why Villa don't win anything..give your manager a chance....you are starting to sound like man utd supporters!
Proper Villan Dan. We know you're solid. But I disagree with you on this one regarding Mings... We've won Naff All since 96 as you stated.. Because we've been a soft touch with no constant fight. We've always been an 'in patches' kinda team.
Ming's is being yakked about by SG because the press are asking him questions that he answers honestly and brutally. Something that sentimentalists don't like to hear..
SG ain't fiddle farting about with sentiment. He's here to be ruthless if we TRULY want to shake off that 'Also Ran' label that we've had for decades.
Mings is about as much a leader as Noddy is. A leader leads by example. I personally think that he's a negative player. Yes very eloquent and decent human being, but he's a mid table player all day long compared to the high calibre position that SG is setting his stall out to achieve.
Mings pointing all over the pitch means nothing when it's followed by mistake after mistake.. That's clearly noticed by the manager.
Yes plenty of mistakes in many players but we're discussing Mings today. It's clear as day to me that he's finished at Villa. SG gave him time enough to pull his finger out but he hasn't .. Top teams don't wait forever. Top managers are brutal.
I'm 100% behind the manager. Mings deserves the bench. Luiz next.
I love Villa more than any one player. #vtid
Mings as been slatted by the fan base for months - why r we being hypocritical now about it
Mings is not worth this level of attention. He is a liability defensively and any team striving for a top 10 finish will not get there relying on him. Probably need to see a top class central defender in the team for supporters to realise this. This self appointed voice of Villa should have had the gumption to realise that by talking about this issue he is he is helping to make this a media story. We are always 10 mins away from booing at Villa by the way.
Gerrard flatters to deceive. He’ll let you down badly
Come on guys Mings is English Dan can't criticise him ! If he wasn't English Dan would be happy to give out about him...
Tyrone ming . A longer term problem and a great victim according to Tyrone mings . Bang average
Mings needs to go! Back the manager...
Back the manager?. You crazy for saying that; Gerrard have brought in a lot of new players and nothing have changed.
Being a good servant and a good player are two separate thing. I’m sorry villa fans but Tyrone Mings is pure bang average and has at least one mistake in him every game
Well with that logic Steven gerrard is a bang average manager Gary Neville had a higher win rate at Valencia
@@abzda1700 I wasnt talking about Gerrard but yeah sure thing mate. Still don’t change the fact Tyrone Mings is trash 😂
On average Van Dijk makes one mistake per game and he’s the best thing since sliced bread
Stevie has an ego and needs one to survive
Aston Villa haven't won anything in 40 yrs...league /FA cups aside? Stable owners, young manager, good squad. Sure, some question marks, but no greater uncertainty than other teams. 10-15 wins from 38 games. Is that not unreasonable given all of the positives we have? Take it game by game, see a progression. If nothing by December, sure it's time to change.
He will be gone before the World Cup. 100%. All he does is blame and throw others under the bus. Massive shame that Villa sacked fan favourite Dean Smith for this shitetalking spoofer.
Gerrard is being found out to be the crap manager that he is. My dog could have run Rangers with the resources he had available. He won't last the season, perhaps even out by Xmas and with that any hope he has of returning to Liverpool as manager some day.
Let me be the first Villa fan to say this… GERRARD OUT!!!!! Bring back lambert 💜🐾
Gerrard will the ruthless though
We’ll beat Everton, I’m convinced, it’ll be a great win for the home fans. Stop panicking now.
Why should villa have won a trophy since 1996..you have been very average and not ambitious enough to be knocking on the door of facups or league cups. Such arrogance as usual from villa fans and very deluded! ..teams like westham, everton, newcastle etc are all on same level as you and havent won any trophies either!
Typical delusional villa
John McGinn is a leader . bit a time bhoy will come good 😎 Gerrard is a dud get rid . Done hee haw💩💩💩
Boring Molloy