I bought an xmaxx after finding this channel 3.5 years ago after being out of RC probably for 15 years, still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it (and now I have a few more too), thanks Kev!
I gotta say, I'm not impressed with the gears. It like pot metal. When you pay $1500 for an RC you expect something as cheap and easy as the gears to be decent quality. Most people can't drop $1500 and right away spend a whole bunch more on upgrading. If that's the case you're better off buying used for half price and upgrading it. IMO
Yeah, they should include better gears. It's not like the transmission is weak, so they don't need to be weak to protect the car, they're just being cheap.
@@fiercetatsu6782 powdered metal doesn't have to be weak, lots of cordless tools use powdered metal parts, even tools that are rough like impacts. Something about the process Traxxas uses is certainly weak though.
X-Maxx looks like brilliant fun but I wouldn’t buy one, not new anyway. £1000 for something that strips its gears first run out of the box? No thanks! COME ON TRAXXAS, THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE!
He was off-roading with the street/speed gearing and it says on the box not to do that, I’ve had a x maxx for like 3-4 years, stock gears worked the whole time until about last year when I put a way bigger motor on it
I rarely buy new regardless of what it is lol shits just way to expensive all around. Buying used and slowly upgrading what breaks over time is the way to go lol
I hate seeing garbage left in nature areas. Anytime my friends and myself go camping, we make a point to pick up any trash we come across. Leave it better than when you arrived.
@@KevinTalbotTV shame, hopefully the fact you called it out will help at least one person think twice before littering. Great video btw. That Xmaxx moon walk was epic.
I just picked up a version 5 xmaxx and man it's a hoot. I do miss my savage when I was a kid. I actually just saw a vid where someone had converted a savage to electric and it was pretty sick.
It's not if you have to buy the stuff yourself. No matter how rich you are. It's "Buy myself something new every day!!" But that doesn't sound as cool.
@@robertward5047 sometimes wonder how many he buys himself vs sponsors or companies just sending them to review, in which case it is basically Christmas
Ive been driving my xmaxx (version 3 i think?) for the last 6 years and Ive never stripped the central drive gears. Broken 2 rear pinions and a single diff ring gear. The stock servo was replaced after 2 years I believe, but other than that, the thing has been by far the most fun, and most durable vehicle ive driven. Personally I really don't think the gears are all that aweful in my experience.
@@roobedev3496 how hard you bash definitely affects durability. I've certainly heard that the spur and pinions are trash. Maybe I've just been lucky so far.
Always smile when I see the ‘Kevin Talbot uploaded -‘ notification comes up on my phone. Can’t wait to enjoy the video! ❤ We actually just today had an Xmaxx posted to us, the things awesome! Gonna need some more 4s lipos 😂
I believe those are wheelie bars! Not for beginners, but some of the most experienced racers have them on the back of the race cars to prevent wheelies which do tons of damage and prevent inexperienced people from winning races!
Anyone who hates Kevin or doesn’t like him I would question if they are a good person or not. How could you not like these kinds of videos? Cheers Kev!
Kev i like your great work, you are the best rc shwocase in youtube. when do we build a brand of rc car? The Traxxas is definitely the best machine to endure all the abuse possible in skate parks and elsewhere. You have proven it multiple times. Now with all your knowledge, let's create an RC brand together. You've already built a monster truck, and your skills in the world of aviation are simply magical. Keep up your work in any case you are the best. Develop new challenges!!!
My nitro savidge use to munch its gear like crazy! Even after up grading them. Even my local hobby shops couldnt set em so they wouldnt shred themselves🤷♂️
i dont get it, you didnt seem to be really giving it a hard time and the gears let go pretty quick, did traxxas test this before releasing it to the public? i have a friend with an older xmaxx and he also goes through stock gears and aftermarket gears once every couple of runs, how is this the best rc car?
Hey Kevin I bought the new xmaxx 8s that your showing now. I absolutely love it and having a blast. I had the same problem you did and stripped the gears the same day. I replaced the gears with ones from Hot Racing and have not had a problem. I am also able to get it on two wheels, but it takes a little bit, I think you're right about it being the servo. Thanks for your videos love them. Keep on bashing
Kev I can't believe Traxxas is putting out a new version so fast! Traxxas used to take the longest in between versions with the Xmaxx the past few years they've become the quickest. Hello and good morning from Canada.
Years ago I saw a motorized golf caddy that followed you around the course, moved when you moved and stopped when you stopped. Great idea for an r/c cart...
I have a traxxas mini max v2 and even with the stock plastic spur, when I’ve put it in one tighter than recommended it still has some play in the gears. The motor never overheats and its lasted a good 6 months now
That's insane that the gears do that, that's why I keep my spurs plastic, they're super cheap so I just get a handful, a good pinion and a good plastic spur is the way to go, my vorteks is going over 80 and my spur is perfectly fine
Does the latest version come with 2085x stock, yet? If not, I'd wager that's what's limiting it from doing same-side 2-wheelage. I was able to easily do it once upgrading, even with belted sledgehammer tires.
If you run the old tyres which balloon, do you get a higher top speed because the circumference is bigger? Or doesn’t it turn out like that in real life?
@KevinTalbotTV didn't you used to run the 6s xmaxx motor with an 8s esc? If I rember right it was faster with the 6s motor. Anyways thanks for all the great content, I've watched your videos for years and took a break from you tube for awhile. Now I'm back and it's great to see you still at it. It was awesome to see you drive the monster truck and how quickly you got good at driving it. Thanks for all you contribute and I look forward to watching your videos for many more years to come 🤘
I personally had bad luck with GDS and pretty much all mod 1 gears. GPM mod 1.5 that’s a pinion style spur gear and full sized 3rd support bearing is my go to option. I have that in my xrt with a max5 5690 combo and it rips.
Hey kevin I just want say great video but sometime when you doing video can you please explain how somethings work in rc like reading manual and so. When you use high speed gear that only for hard surface if you bash it around that can cause gear stripping different gear for toque and diff surface. To do side wheel on 2 wheel go with thicker diff fluid 😊
New to this part of the hobby -Never had anything with 4 wheels before. My local Dealer here in NY was mentioning this model to me. Looks pretty robust. Thanks for this video. i'll have it soon. I've been hearing not soo good things about Traxxas. Good fun!
Do not worry my friend. Aside from the traxxas slash, this is probably the single most famous rc car built in the lats 10 years for its speed, durability, and sheer fun. I mean Kev has bought like 6 of them at this point. If it was really all that bad, do you think he would have done that lol? Its an amazing truck. I've owned one for 6 years and I can still count on one hand the amount of parts I've had to replace on it.
@@coastguardghost2190 Thanks for the reply. I have since purchased 7 RC's. including this one!! I'm not sure what happened but i just went crazy and started buying. I'm normally a "fly guy". These are the first RC anything that i've purchased that does not either a propeller or wings.I'm not a big basher, so i'm pretty sure(hope) i won't be going through parts. Thanks for Reassurance!
I find it hilarious that you mentioned the savage but not the Traxxas Nitro T-maxx with out that you wouldn’t even have the XMaxx which is totally over priced - I mean first rip & it strips the pinion then need a better steering servo right off rip & brake again so after spending £1500 + you should be set . Xmaxx is a good looking truck though 💯👌🤙🇬🇧
How were the temps with its high speed gearing kev? Throughout the video, it never overheated from the looks of it, and I'm wondering if the temps were alright 👌 Looking forward to its next video 🤘
@KevinTalbotTV , with a brushless motor do you ever have problems with dust and sand getting in the motor through the vents on the motor and causing a problem? I remember when Traxxas said you can put the emaxx in water because it had brushes but they recommended you don't but they did say do not take a brushless motor through water.
Nice work Kev. That Xmaxx orgy sure was er...intimate. I don't know if there is another RC truck that quite makes the same sound the Xmaxx does when it hits something. Doof!
@@KevinTalbotTV how did you mount the insta 360 on the back? I know it fell off at one point. But was it just stuck behind the bumper? Or did you mount it somehow?
KEVIN$ Buy a Rustler Ultimate. It's time mate. ( not many rustler videos because of broken drive shafts will the Rustler ULTIMATE make the difference vs skatepark..😅 IT will be epic 😎
Why would they make a v5 and not upgrade the gears? 🙄 I had that issue with the savage flux, that thing was a beast but the diff gears broke everytime i turned it on. Atleast traxxas has a lot of aftermarket support and you can fix where they slack but dang come on traxxas the xmaxx is a $1,200 truck it should be a tank out the box
@@andyguyuk1 yeah that’s insane. Idk, if it says 8s on the box i feel like it should handle being ripped on 8s otherwise it should say 6s on the box. He hadn’t even started to really bash it before the gears turned into smooshed playdoh. I’m waiting to hear back about a v3 for 500 with a fried servo and possibly a smoked esc, but figure 500 was a good price cause i was just going to rip both of those out anyway. At brand new pricing though it’s just kinda insane they wouldn’t atleast get away from those crap sintered gears. The belted tires are cool i guess but don’t really mean anything if you can’t put power to them without after market gears. Traxxas tough BABY!
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Hey dude can you do a remote control Lego boat video
Teach me your ways ?
I love your channel, can you do the Arrma Typhon 6S TLR Tuned? If you haven’t yet :)
Edit: I didn’t know the other guy has a typhon! 😂😂
I love your videos
You should try the older tires on the new X Maxx then see if will bicycle 😊
I bought an xmaxx after finding this channel 3.5 years ago after being out of RC probably for 15 years, still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it (and now I have a few more too), thanks Kev!
I gotta say, I'm not impressed with the gears. It like pot metal. When you pay $1500 for an RC you expect something as cheap and easy as the gears to be decent quality. Most people can't drop $1500 and right away spend a whole bunch more on upgrading. If that's the case you're better off buying used for half price and upgrading it. IMO
Yeah, they should include better gears. It's not like the transmission is weak, so they don't need to be weak to protect the car, they're just being cheap.
This is what I did.
Batteries charger and X-maxx for 750.
They use powdered metal and it’s super weird that traxxas of all companies is the one cutting such costs
@@fiercetatsu6782 powdered metal doesn't have to be weak, lots of cordless tools use powdered metal parts, even tools that are rough like impacts.
Something about the process Traxxas uses is certainly weak though.
Those gears are made of the finest grade chinesium😂
Kinda wild seeing Mitchell all grown up. Makes me realize just how long I've been watching you. 😅
Wow. You guys can steer. That looks like a ton of fun and that dude went full send with his buggy type car. That was badass.
X-Maxx looks like brilliant fun but I wouldn’t buy one, not new anyway. £1000 for something that strips its gears first run out of the box? No thanks! COME ON TRAXXAS, THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE!
I bought a fiesta st150 off my mate for a grand. That puts things into perspective.
He was off-roading with the street/speed gearing and it says on the box not to do that, I’ve had a x maxx for like 3-4 years, stock gears worked the whole time until about last year when I put a way bigger motor on it
I rarely buy new regardless of what it is lol shits just way to expensive all around. Buying used and slowly upgrading what breaks over time is the way to go lol
"Clunge Sponge" 🤣🤣🤣. Brilliant
Thought he said that 😂😂😂
I hate seeing garbage left in nature areas. Anytime my friends and myself go camping, we make a point to pick up any trash we come across. Leave it better than when you arrived.
uk is too far gone so many people do it the battle is lost
@@KevinTalbotTV shame, hopefully the fact you called it out will help at least one person think twice before littering.
Great video btw. That Xmaxx moon walk was epic.
Those TLR Typhons are tough as hell. I switched mine over to speedruns but I wanna get another and do Kraton arms and bigger wheels for bashing.
I just picked up a version 5 xmaxx and man it's a hoot. I do miss my savage when I was a kid. I actually just saw a vid where someone had converted a savage to electric and it was pretty sick.
ITS CHRISTMAS EVERY DAY!!
It's not if you have to buy the stuff yourself. No matter how rich you are. It's "Buy myself something new every day!!" But that doesn't sound as cool.
@@robertward5047 sometimes wonder how many he buys himself vs sponsors or companies just sending them to review, in which case it is basically Christmas
Traxxas still taking the p1ss. The XMaxx version 5 and yet it still has monkey metal gears and toy grade servo.
Right up to version 5 and still trash gears & servo 🤷🏾♂️
Ive been driving my xmaxx (version 3 i think?) for the last 6 years and Ive never stripped the central drive gears. Broken 2 rear pinions and a single diff ring gear. The stock servo was replaced after 2 years I believe, but other than that, the thing has been by far the most fun, and most durable vehicle ive driven. Personally I really don't think the gears are all that aweful in my experience.
@@coastguardghost2190well in this video they broke already so they are infact bad quality
@@roobedev3496 how hard you bash definitely affects durability. I've certainly heard that the spur and pinions are trash. Maybe I've just been lucky so far.
Always smile when I see the ‘Kevin Talbot uploaded -‘ notification comes up on my phone. Can’t wait to enjoy the video! ❤
We actually just today had an Xmaxx posted to us, the things awesome! Gonna need some more 4s lipos 😂
Hey Kevin, I’m addicted to your videos and I love your respectful advice
Looove that 360 camera view on the xmaxx
Love watching these rc get out threw the ultimate test to see how they hold up
I just bought one. Should get it in a week. I’ve waited many years now but finally bought it. I can’t wait to get this thing!
I believe those are wheelie bars! Not for beginners, but some of the most experienced racers have them on the back of the race cars to prevent wheelies which do tons of damage and prevent inexperienced people from winning races!
The more i watch traxxas videos the better i feel about going with arrma...
Anyone who hates Kevin or doesn’t like him I would question if they are a good person or not. How could you not like these kinds of videos?
Cheers Kev!
They just pretend to hate but still watch all the videos 😂 jellies
Probably the comments he leaves, going on other creators videos to be a troll, acting like a child generally.
I like his vids but his voice is rough on my ears
Nearly 6 years with my X-Maxx 8s. Still my Favourite RC. Close second, my XRT. Brilliant fun.
@@steveblackbird would you say it’s a once in a lifetime deal to buy the v5 still in the box for 700? I have found one and I’m debating it
Monkey Metal is diabolical work LMAO
This guy is nuts !! Im after getting a maxx myself i used to have a nitro stampeed.
_Still convinced that the XRT is the better all around RC vehicle! Especially once you start doing modifications!_
the best is whichever puts the biggest smile on your face
i like my new x maxx the best
@@KevinTalbotTV or which one lasts the longest as far as durability
@@KevinTalbotTVthat’s true
@@larryjepson9924They’re basically the same car. You can break either fairly easily with enough effort…
Hello….I just bought the XMaxx that you have …Can’t wait to play with it 👍
Good to see a Xmax on the channel again 👍
I’ve been waiting for this vid LETS GOOOO 🎉
I love how the bench is looking 👍
looks really organized and cleaned up
One of my favorite videos I love when everybody gets together❤❤❤❤
7:46 Kevin be like Oh! 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍 sugar!
Kev i like your great work, you are the best rc shwocase in youtube. when do we build a brand of rc car? The Traxxas is definitely the best machine to endure all the abuse possible in skate parks and elsewhere. You have proven it multiple times. Now with all your knowledge, let's create an RC brand together.
You've already built a monster truck, and your skills in the world of aviation are simply magical. Keep up your work in any case you are the best. Develop new challenges!!!
Some nice changes from the previous iteration there, well done to Traxxas ❤❤ Great video as always Kevin, very informative! 👍🏻
It's nice to see the original gang together. The content with that group is so much better than the ones with just RCman
Most i like jumps😂
Yessss kev let’s goooooo. Thank you for taking a picture with my son at the nationals hopefully I’ll see you at herts track soon! 🎉
12:02 So that's how new x-maxx bashers are made😂
Hey kev love the vids i still watch the vids from like 4-5 yrs ago love the content mate keep It up 👍👍
I open UA-cam AND ITS KEV FIRST VIDEO!! LETS GOOOOO RIGHT BEFORE WORK!! YESSSS 🎉🎉
Come on UA-cam notify me faster!!!
My nitro savidge use to munch its gear like crazy! Even after up grading them. Even my local hobby shops couldnt set em so they wouldnt shred themselves🤷♂️
Insane how traxxas can keep pushing out expensive stuff that breaks right away! Love this hobby 😂
do you ever have any overheating issues with the high speed gearing?
i dont get it, you didnt seem to be really giving it a hard time and the gears let go pretty quick, did traxxas test this before releasing it to the public? i have a friend with an older xmaxx and he also goes through stock gears and aftermarket gears once every couple of runs, how is this the best rc car?
Man that be so fun to go out an Bash w you guys
AWESOME Sessions as always! I wish they would change the gears to something decent. 😘😘
My day has just got a lot better since kev uploaded ❤
Perfect time to watch! (Getting ready for my 9-5)
You give the phrase "walk in the park" a whole new meaning!! what a fun day!! Thanks for posting!!!
how many xmaxxes does a man need?
Kevin: "yes"
all of them!
@@KevinTalbotTVsome would say... Everyday.
I just realized, they said x-maxx and not x-mas lol but whatever :)
where can you buy this in Germany for a "normal" price... you can find almost only some that cost 250+
Hey Kevin
I bought the new xmaxx 8s that your showing now. I absolutely love it and having a blast. I had the same problem you did and stripped the gears the same day. I replaced the gears with ones from Hot Racing and have not had a problem. I am also able to get it on two wheels, but it takes a little bit, I think you're right about it being the servo.
Thanks for your videos love them. Keep on bashing
Love the shots with the insta360 or whatever it is attached to the xmaxx. Really neat looking.
Kev I can't believe Traxxas is putting out a new version so fast! Traxxas used to take the longest in between versions with the Xmaxx the past few years they've become the quickest. Hello and good morning from Canada.
Years ago I saw a motorized golf caddy that followed you around the course, moved when you moved and stopped when you stopped. Great idea for an r/c cart...
Mitchell is always game.
An RC TROLLEY BUILD .....with 8s maybe??
I have a traxxas mini max v2 and even with the stock plastic spur, when I’ve put it in one tighter than recommended it still has some play in the gears. The motor never overheats and its lasted a good 6 months now
Always a good day when i get to see a Kev video!
I’m wondering if the gears are sacrificial purposefully to protect the drive train??
My dream car X MAX 😢😢 love from India 🇮🇳👍▶️👍
That's insane that the gears do that, that's why I keep my spurs plastic, they're super cheap so I just get a handful, a good pinion and a good plastic spur is the way to go, my vorteks is going over 80 and my spur is perfectly fine
Another fun one Kev, thanks! Also, come on Traxasses, put some better gears in your flagship machine!
Does the latest version come with 2085x stock, yet? If not, I'd wager that's what's limiting it from doing same-side 2-wheelage. I was able to easily do it once upgrading, even with belted sledgehammer tires.
Thinking of buying a x Maxx would you buy this or the ultimate X maxx thanks
Waking up at two a new Kev video is always going to make it a good day 😊
If you run the old tyres which balloon, do you get a higher top speed because the circumference is bigger? Or doesn’t it turn out like that in real life?
Would love to know how many batteries you go though on a video like this.
@KevinTalbotTV didn't you used to run the 6s xmaxx motor with an 8s esc? If I rember right it was faster with the 6s motor. Anyways thanks for all the great content, I've watched your videos for years and took a break from you tube for awhile. Now I'm back and it's great to see you still at it. It was awesome to see you drive the monster truck and how quickly you got good at driving it. Thanks for all you contribute and I look forward to watching your videos for many more years to come 🤘
Welcome back! Yes, 6s motor on 8s is faster, but hard to get hold of now so I’m back to stock motor
I personally had bad luck with GDS and pretty much all mod 1 gears. GPM mod 1.5 that’s a pinion style spur gear and full sized 3rd support bearing is my go to option. I have that in my xrt with a max5 5690 combo and it rips.
Always liked ur xmaxx videos, quality bashing 👌
i cant believe you can make a rc car xmaxx a drone, best rc car in my opinion, Very nice video.
Hey kevin I just want say great video but sometime when you doing video can you please explain how somethings work in rc like reading manual and so. When you use high speed gear that only for hard surface if you bash it around that can cause gear stripping different gear for toque and diff surface. To do side wheel on 2 wheel go with thicker diff fluid 😊
New to this part of the hobby -Never had anything with 4 wheels before. My local Dealer here in NY was mentioning this model to me. Looks pretty robust.
Thanks for this video. i'll have it soon. I've been hearing not soo good things about Traxxas. Good fun!
Do not worry my friend. Aside from the traxxas slash, this is probably the single most famous rc car built in the lats 10 years for its speed, durability, and sheer fun. I mean Kev has bought like 6 of them at this point. If it was really all that bad, do you think he would have done that lol? Its an amazing truck. I've owned one for 6 years and I can still count on one hand the amount of parts I've had to replace on it.
@@coastguardghost2190 Thanks for the reply.
I have since purchased 7 RC's. including this one!! I'm not sure what happened but i just went crazy and started buying. I'm normally a "fly guy". These are the first RC anything that i've purchased that does not either a propeller or wings.I'm not a big basher, so i'm pretty sure(hope) i won't be going through parts. Thanks for Reassurance!
If you could pick tire, sand, tire or regular tire what would it be?
Finalllyyyyy content I needed!!!! Need more!!! Please! Bash!!!! 😂❤😅
I love the way you give them trucks. Hell, but you give them the maximum? I like the wind I love the wind one of those bad boys.
You are my favorite UA-camr jay
I see a Goblin Raw in the box 🤘❤ can't wait Kev!
with 105 engine boom
I find it hilarious that you mentioned the savage but not the Traxxas Nitro T-maxx with out that you wouldn’t even have the XMaxx which is totally over priced - I mean first rip & it strips the pinion then need a better steering servo right off rip & brake again so after spending £1500 + you should be set . Xmaxx is a good looking truck though 💯👌🤙🇬🇧
How were the temps with its high speed gearing kev? Throughout the video, it never overheated from the looks of it, and I'm wondering if the temps were alright 👌
Looking forward to its next video 🤘
Darn. I need those shades man.. your pearlie whites are blinding me 😎😉
Hey Kevin :) what's the difference between V5 vs V4? thanks mate
Kevin you inspired me to buy good rc cars cause you show cheap ones and expensive one i love you’re content
the 360 camera plans looks sick !
Kev, What if you bind the new X-Maxx and the previous version X-Maxx to the same radio and race yourself at the same time?
Lol😅 finny, but it won't work that way
@KevinTalbotTV , with a brushless motor do you ever have problems with dust and sand getting in the motor through the vents on the motor and causing a problem? I remember when Traxxas said you can put the emaxx in water because it had brushes but they recommended you don't but they did say do not take a brushless motor through water.
What are the differences between the last Versions? Do they have only mor Alu and light, or better electronics ? 😮
lens can be fixed with polywatch used for removed scratches on wrist watches i think
I have had the original traxxas rustler for about 5 or 6 years now and it’s survived a lot of hits. That’s how well they are made
I'd be happy with all old parts he takes out
Would you recommend the RPM arms or stick with stock ones?
Stock. Rpm don't break but they will bend out of shape
Primal dragster with big bore engine?
I like the soundtrack @ 13:10 ish. Thanks for the instructions, looking at a used one. Good Times! BNW.
U finally got a new car!!! 🤘😂 in the next 3-4 months imma built a RC track in my back yard time 4 some new trucks I already sold off what I had 😑
Awesome video Kev can’t wait to see the upgrades and how it handles
Nice work Kev. That Xmaxx orgy sure was er...intimate. I don't know if there is another RC truck that quite makes the same sound the Xmaxx does when it hits something. Doof!
Is that all that’s different on the 5.0 version? Just the tires?
Maybe, maybe not.
think so
@@KevinTalbotTV how did you mount the insta 360 on the back? I know it fell off at one point. But was it just stuck behind the bumper? Or did you mount it somehow?
zip ties
KEVIN$ Buy a Rustler Ultimate.
It's time mate. ( not many rustler videos because of broken drive shafts will the Rustler ULTIMATE make the difference vs skatepark..😅
IT will be epic 😎
Banger of an episode, Kev!
I love watching the waves of sand the paddle tires make
How do you do two wheels?
Why would they make a v5 and not upgrade the gears? 🙄
I had that issue with the savage flux, that thing was a beast but the diff gears broke everytime i turned it on. Atleast traxxas has a lot of aftermarket support and you can fix where they slack but dang come on traxxas the xmaxx is a $1,200 truck it should be a tank out the box
@@itsamk18-ish and another 6-700 doll hairs for what we have to pay in the UK at least!!
@@andyguyuk1 yeah that’s insane. Idk, if it says 8s on the box i feel like it should handle being ripped on 8s otherwise it should say 6s on the box. He hadn’t even started to really bash it before the gears turned into smooshed playdoh.
I’m waiting to hear back about a v3 for 500 with a fried servo and possibly a smoked esc, but figure 500 was a good price cause i was just going to rip both of those out anyway. At brand new pricing though it’s just kinda insane they wouldn’t atleast get away from those crap sintered gears. The belted tires are cool i guess but don’t really mean anything if you can’t put power to them without after market gears. Traxxas tough BABY!